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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s official: A third of General Motors&#8217; workforce to depart</title>
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		<title>By: someone</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/its-official-a-third-of-general-motors-workers-to-leave-automaker.html#comment-179638</link>
		<dc:creator>someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15 $94k is hardly something you can retire on, let alone something you can give the middle finger on. Once you get down to reality, it will be apparent how little it stretches these days. Not to rain on your parade. But that&#039;s reality. And unless you&#039;re planning to get a Master&#039;s at University of Phoenix, you might want to check out the latest tuition prices. And if you&#039;re planning on the former, you&#039;re better off not wasting your money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15 $94k is hardly something you can retire on, let alone something you can give the middle finger on. Once you get down to reality, it will be apparent how little it stretches these days. Not to rain on your parade. But that&#8217;s reality. And unless you&#8217;re planning to get a Master&#8217;s at University of Phoenix, you might want to check out the latest tuition prices. And if you&#8217;re planning on the former, you&#8217;re better off not wasting your money.</p>
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		<title>By: Soon to be 35 and semi retired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soon to be 35 and semi retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmmmm. Well Annie Lingus, My middle finger was not directed towards you. 
 Gm and I had an agreement, I showed up every day for work and they paid me. Just that cut and dry. Unless you were working at Moraine assembly with me you cannot possible know anything about me or my plant.
GM brought all those problems on themselves. I did not ask them to pay me $70+ a year. Nor did I ask for the plush benefits. They offered and invited me in. So they shot themselves in the foot. Not my problem. 

What you should be wondering #15 Annie is if My Official Lap Dance tour is coming to a city near you? 

IM Ria&#039;tch Bia&#039;tch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmmm. Well Annie Lingus, My middle finger was not directed towards you.<br />
 Gm and I had an agreement, I showed up every day for work and they paid me. Just that cut and dry. Unless you were working at Moraine assembly with me you cannot possible know anything about me or my plant.<br />
GM brought all those problems on themselves. I did not ask them to pay me $70+ a year. Nor did I ask for the plush benefits. They offered and invited me in. So they shot themselves in the foot. Not my problem. </p>
<p>What you should be wondering #15 Annie is if My Official Lap Dance tour is coming to a city near you? </p>
<p>IM Ria&#8217;tch Bia&#8217;tch!</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Lingus</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/its-official-a-third-of-general-motors-workers-to-leave-automaker.html#comment-179438</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Lingus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17 No I am his wife</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 No I am his wife</p>
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		<title>By: 87 635CSI</title>
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		<dc:creator>87 635CSI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>16: Wow, I had no idea you were 15&#039;s boss!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>16: Wow, I had no idea you were 15&#8242;s boss!</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Lingus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie Lingus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Mr. Soon to be 35 and semi retired, you took a job, took the money to buy a home and all the benefits, you built shitty cars shittily that brought the worlds largest automaker to its knees, and now your bragging about how you are taking them to the cleaners again. You should be Ashamed. Don&#039;t finger me you asshole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Mr. Soon to be 35 and semi retired, you took a job, took the money to buy a home and all the benefits, you built shitty cars shittily that brought the worlds largest automaker to its knees, and now your bragging about how you are taking them to the cleaners again. You should be Ashamed. Don&#8217;t finger me you asshole.</p>
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		<title>By: Soon to be 35 and semi retired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soon to be 35 and semi retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, The money will go further then you think #12.

I stand to get a little over 94 grand, split in 3rds it will be used well. Mutual fund, home, and enough to tour a couple of continents. 
Not to mention the other incentive of 2 years school paid. Enough to get my masters program started.

#13 I will see your 3 series and raise you a nice used Landcruiser. 

Time spent in hell hole 11 years 
Blood,sweat and tears   undetermined
GM footing the bill for me to go get another life...
...PRICELESS!

Everyone else can get the finger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, The money will go further then you think #12.</p>
<p>I stand to get a little over 94 grand, split in 3rds it will be used well. Mutual fund, home, and enough to tour a couple of continents.<br />
Not to mention the other incentive of 2 years school paid. Enough to get my masters program started.</p>
<p>#13 I will see your 3 series and raise you a nice used Landcruiser. </p>
<p>Time spent in hell hole 11 years<br />
Blood,sweat and tears   undetermined<br />
GM footing the bill for me to go get another life&#8230;<br />
&#8230;PRICELESS!</p>
<p>Everyone else can get the finger.</p>
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		<title>By: Over paid and Loved it</title>
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		<dc:creator>Over paid and Loved it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 series here I come...of course I will need a 2007 Tundra to pull it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 series here I come&#8230;of course I will need a 2007 Tundra to pull it.</p>
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		<title>By: blah blah blah blah</title>
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		<dc:creator>blah blah blah blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10: Actually most people won&#039;t be able buy a &quot;nice&quot; BMW,Mercedes,Audi with the severance package anyway. Let&#039;s put this in perspective. The lads that will get the $40k take home...Well, that won&#039;t go very far. Figure after federal/state/local/social security taxes, what they will see is really closer to be $20k. No BMW/Mer/Audi.

Workers that get the $70,000 severance, will receive after federal/state/social security/disability taxes approximately $30,000-$45,000.  Also factor in most of these people it will take about 6 months to find a comparable job with comparable benefits. They might be able to find a hourly job, but good luck finding the cushy health care benefits that GM use to offer. The average GM worker between 30-40 would mostly likely sorta out of shape and in not so good health and be rated as a &quot;standard&quot; when it comes to insurance&#039;s rating of &quot;selected preferred&quot;, &quot;preferred&quot;, &quot;standard&quot; rating. So tag on expenses for health insurance. Then there&#039;s the folks that will get the $140k compensation. Well, that puts them into a high tax bracket for that year. So figure $70k +- after taxes. Then you figure that these people are mostly older (must have worked 10+ years), so are probably in poorer health.--&gt; considerably more health care costs. 

Then tag on expenses that the average person spends on walmart, factor in the credit card payments they folks need to make, rent, etc. They&#039;ll be lucky to be able to buy a low end 3 series or A3 or C230.... 

And then you figure if they are able to purchase an Audi/Mer/BMW, the cost of maintanence. Last time I checked, Audi and Mer were dropping the free maintanence program. So go figure $100-$200 minimum for a service visit. All 3 brands also require premium fuel. So figure $3/gallon and approximately $100-$150/month on fuel alone. And that&#039;s with a conservative mpg which is highly unlikely if you actually were to drive the Audi/Mer/BMW in such a way that isn&#039;t like &quot;you&#039;re father&#039;s oldsmobile&quot;. 

And that would require them to clean out most of their severance to do this, which would demonstrate extreme stupidity wrto financial management, since it will probably also take some time for these folks to find another job. But then again, several americans demonstrate financial stupidity on a regular basis. So anything is possible. And there is always the lease option. .Afterall, this is america. Buy now, and make minimum payments. Even if you have no money, you still have to look and act it...Why live poor when we can live in debt????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10: Actually most people won&#8217;t be able buy a &#8220;nice&#8221; BMW,Mercedes,Audi with the severance package anyway. Let&#8217;s put this in perspective. The lads that will get the $40k take home&#8230;Well, that won&#8217;t go very far. Figure after federal/state/local/social security taxes, what they will see is really closer to be $20k. No BMW/Mer/Audi.</p>
<p>Workers that get the $70,000 severance, will receive after federal/state/social security/disability taxes approximately $30,000-$45,000.  Also factor in most of these people it will take about 6 months to find a comparable job with comparable benefits. They might be able to find a hourly job, but good luck finding the cushy health care benefits that GM use to offer. The average GM worker between 30-40 would mostly likely sorta out of shape and in not so good health and be rated as a &#8220;standard&#8221; when it comes to insurance&#8217;s rating of &#8220;selected preferred&#8221;, &#8220;preferred&#8221;, &#8220;standard&#8221; rating. So tag on expenses for health insurance. Then there&#8217;s the folks that will get the $140k compensation. Well, that puts them into a high tax bracket for that year. So figure $70k +- after taxes. Then you figure that these people are mostly older (must have worked 10+ years), so are probably in poorer health.&#8211;&gt; considerably more health care costs. </p>
<p>Then tag on expenses that the average person spends on walmart, factor in the credit card payments they folks need to make, rent, etc. They&#8217;ll be lucky to be able to buy a low end 3 series or A3 or C230&#8230;. </p>
<p>And then you figure if they are able to purchase an Audi/Mer/BMW, the cost of maintanence. Last time I checked, Audi and Mer were dropping the free maintanence program. So go figure $100-$200 minimum for a service visit. All 3 brands also require premium fuel. So figure $3/gallon and approximately $100-$150/month on fuel alone. And that&#8217;s with a conservative mpg which is highly unlikely if you actually were to drive the Audi/Mer/BMW in such a way that isn&#8217;t like &#8220;you&#8217;re father&#8217;s oldsmobile&#8221;. </p>
<p>And that would require them to clean out most of their severance to do this, which would demonstrate extreme stupidity wrto financial management, since it will probably also take some time for these folks to find another job. But then again, several americans demonstrate financial stupidity on a regular basis. So anything is possible. And there is always the lease option. .Afterall, this is america. Buy now, and make minimum payments. Even if you have no money, you still have to look and act it&#8230;Why live poor when we can live in debt????</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....when even the rats leave the ship.   [in this case the rats are the good guys.]

j i m</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..when even the rats leave the ship.   [in this case the rats are the good guys.]</p>
<p>j i m</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$140,000.00 or ZERO after you are laid off.

Hmmm...hard choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$140,000.00 or ZERO after you are laid off.</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;hard choice.</p>
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		<title>By: UAWankers</title>
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		<dc:creator>UAWankers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder how many blow the cash on a BMW or Mercedes or Audi? LOl Lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder how many blow the cash on a BMW or Mercedes or Audi? LOl Lol</p>
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		<title>By: 300C Driver</title>
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		<dc:creator>300C Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7 but I&#039;m retarded to start with. How does that work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 but I&#8217;m retarded to start with. How does that work?</p>
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		<title>By: fat_lazy_union_worker</title>
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		<dc:creator>fat_lazy_union_worker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this is exactly why I will never buy a POS GM car. With so many &quot;workers&quot; eager to &quot;retire&quot; with say $140k...makes you wonder the quality/workmanship they must have put into building those POS&#039;s.$140? That&#039;s peanuts after taxes. Those same fat ass americans will blow that money on lotto tickets, booz, and crap made in china sold at walmart in a few months....

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&quot;Workers with 10 or more years are eligible for $140,000 to sever ties to the bankrupt company. Workers with fewer than 10 years are eligible for $70,000. And those hired under a supplemental new hire agreement before March 22 can take a $40,000 buyout.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is exactly why I will never buy a POS GM car. With so many &#8220;workers&#8221; eager to &#8220;retire&#8221; with say $140k&#8230;makes you wonder the quality/workmanship they must have put into building those POS&#8217;s.$140? That&#8217;s peanuts after taxes. Those same fat ass americans will blow that money on lotto tickets, booz, and crap made in china sold at walmart in a few months&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8212;-<br />
&#8220;Workers with 10 or more years are eligible for $140,000 to sever ties to the bankrupt company. Workers with fewer than 10 years are eligible for $70,000. And those hired under a supplemental new hire agreement before March 22 can take a $40,000 buyout.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 300k mile trep</title>
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		<dc:creator>300k mile trep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>arguing on the net is like running the special olimpics, even if you win, your still retarded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arguing on the net is like running the special olimpics, even if you win, your still retarded</p>
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		<title>By: E M</title>
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		<dc:creator>E M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully, they&#039;ll rebound, and they&#039;ll get smart &amp; find a way to hire back through a contract/leasing company next time. Lower hourly cost prolly, but no legacy cost. OR...have non-union Tier 1 or 2 cos to assemble modules using the same method... 

Someone needs to stand up to the Unions...they are no longer needed with all the 2-bit lawyers running around looking to sue employers who misbehave.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, they&#8217;ll rebound, and they&#8217;ll get smart &amp; find a way to hire back through a contract/leasing company next time. Lower hourly cost prolly, but no legacy cost. OR&#8230;have non-union Tier 1 or 2 cos to assemble modules using the same method&#8230; </p>
<p>Someone needs to stand up to the Unions&#8230;they are no longer needed with all the 2-bit lawyers running around looking to sue employers who misbehave.!</p>
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		<title>By: 300k mile trep</title>
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		<dc:creator>300k mile trep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why cant GM do what everyone wants them to do and and just die?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why cant GM do what everyone wants them to do and and just die?</p>
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		<title>By: Learn2Play</title>
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		<dc:creator>Learn2Play</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumbestics need to Learn 2 Play</description>
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		<title>By: Bryan Detty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Detty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YAY!!!  For buyouts,  Not that it is great news for GM but I needed 500 or so at my plant to save my job.  At Moraine Assembly we had 1136 production to take the buyout. [url]http://iue798.com/final_numbers_at_deadline.htm[/url]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAY!!!  For buyouts,  Not that it is great news for GM but I needed 500 or so at my plant to save my job.  At Moraine Assembly we had 1136 production to take the buyout. [url]http://iue798.com/final_numbers_at_deadline.htm[/url]</p>
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