Sheesh DC, charge a little more for a car and make it better.

Plus, it’s not all frills. It received a 5-star front crash rating.

Actually, you can’t truly judge California before you’ve seen more of it. SoCal, and Orange County in particualr, is its own world. Personally, I hate it. Drive a little north to Big Sur, and it’s a completely different world. Before you form too concrete an opinion, go see the Bay Area, Humboldt, Yosemite, Napa, Gold Country, the Central Valley… not because it’s all the end-all be-all, but because California has so many different cultural climates that it’s impossible to generalize just based on visiting one place (I know, I’ve lived in six very different cities here).

- P.J.
motoralley.com

Hmm. Guess I missed those days. I wish they’d come back too.

“California SUCKS. I hope it gets wiped off the map.”

Well, then say good-bye to the world’s fifth largest economy and source of most of the nation’s technological innovation and automotive design bureaus. Hope you don’t plan on Googling anything anytime soon.

On to the topic at hand, have any of you defending the Caliber actually driven it? Seriously? I drove one two weeks ago and the L.A. Times’ description of the driving experience really is spot-on. The steering is vague and rubbery, handling feels sloppy, there’s too much road noise, the engines are weak, and the interior looks and feels like it was built by Rubbermaid. You’ve got to go out and drive these things yourself before you mouth off about how wrong everybody else is.

And yes, the Neon actually was better to drive than the Caliber. Better steering, better cornering, quicker acceleration, and a better manual shifter. The Caliber is a step forward in terms of packaging and practicality, but a step backwards in terms of fun-to-drive.

- P.J.
motoralley.com

Furthermore, a Neon isn’t exactly my definition of a car that should see speeds of 120 and be expected to take it well without extensive modifcation. No one really has any business going 120 anywhere but on a roadcourse, but I digess, I’m not here to parent.

DC needs a small coupe/sedan, and I dont think using the truck-esqe Caliber design would be a good idea.

Maybe it’s time to revive the Plymouth nameplate…

Yeah, not a fan of dodge at all. Only car that I would consider buying is the charger (for some reason it reminds me of a skyline gt-r esp. the headlights).

I give DC credit for trying something different, but I think they still missed the mark. They need more variations, like a sedan or maybe a coupe, and it could stand to shed some weight.

For what you pretend to know, how has reality escaped you?

you moron. everything is “perfectly legal” now that we have a one-party system of government rubber-stamping every fascist program they can dream up. how about legalizing illegal wiretapping after the fact?

you’re so afraid of arabs and other brown people that you’ll gladly give up your freedoms that people fought and died to hand down to you – even if you don’t deserve it.

comparing the modern-day policies of this incompetent administration to those of Nazi Germany is anything but straw – but i’d imagine a loser that hangs out at Redstate.com would somehow miss this. in fact, it demeans the Nazis to compare the bungling losers you clearly want to protect you with those of wartime Germany. at least they were competent at what they did, albeit evil. these people – your heroes – are just plain hacks who can’t even shoot straight.

i’m so sick of phony patriots like you. please stop sticking up for the same auto companies i love. you make me feel like i need a shower each time you do.

Oh and all of you VW guys out there, do you really think you are cool when the same manufacturer makes a Beetle. Come on really. Golfs are for budding teenage girls as are MX whatever Miatas. I don’t care what it drives like, you are one step away from a Sebring convertible. Might as well get some Elton John and Ru Paul bumper stickers.

I saw a Patriot in Febuary just wandering around past Cherry Vale rd in the country south of the plant. Looks like they were just doing a short run-about with it. Didn’t look as fugly as the Caliber.

Something you said to Range Rover Boy or British Rover made you very easy to trace. You said you posted as MKbruin on some 4×4 colorado blog site and your profile on that site linked to your web site, so all in all it took about 3 minutes.

post #7 and #8

I should use a more distictive screen name.

Rory McGrory: Good catch, how long did you spend on that? PS, I am not the one who built that site, nor am I the one who maintains that site in any way. It is in the family though.

except they state in the article that it was a perfectly legal program, with more than enough safeguards and oversight for checks and balances, and that it was an incredibly successful program. There was no reason to reveal this classified information, and your comparison to Nazi Germany is a straw man argument at best, packed with fallacy.

How is legally tracking money flowing from known terrorist to known terrorist a daddy-nanny state?

For what you pretend to know, how has reality escaped you?

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/columnist-questions-pontiac-rwd-strategy/

Pleas see comment #27. If thats not you, I guess your’re just 1 Mike of many here at LLN that rant like domestic fan-boys and drape themselves in the American flag while espousing they are the only one who knows what it is to be a true American.

I hardly care to debate the SWIFT story here, but bravo for the LATimes keeping the American public educated. I love my country, but I fear my government.

“If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both.”

neil does a good job and is a good writer, so i’ll take him at his word that the interior is **** on the Caliber. i had a 1995 stratus once and believe me, it was like sitting inside a Revell-Monogram model kit, that interior was.

and mike, please get back in your time machine and return to 1936 germany, where no media outlet would dare uphold the tradition of government watchdogs (”fourth estate” anyone?) and you can sleep easy in the blissful comfort of the daddy-nanny-state you so desperately crave. and take that tranny ann coulter and closet bukkake queen hannity with you.

you wingnuts are the first ones to wet the f-ing bed at the thought of “terrorism.”