20% rabid import humpers
10% equally-moronic foreign bashers
70% moderate posters who take **** from the import humpers because they are actually fair

Of course any company that mass manufactures will have a few defective components. All of us realize that.

Which is why your “implicates GM” comment is a bit overdoing it. There are some “domestic-fanboys” here, just like there are “import-humpers.” In total both groups are maybe 10 to 15% of the posters. The other 85% try to be reasonably fair in their assessments, maybe admitting a preference while still being fair. Those are the bulk of posters in this thread, plus I believe everyone is sick of these frivolous lawsuit ässwipes and the fact that our crappy courts give them the time of day.

However, I will say that I’m surprised that the majority of this forum is actually calm to consider all the facts. Maybe because it implicates Gm along with Toyota, and not just Toyota.

Still, since GM and Ford are always getting beaten up by bullshìt lawsuits, I’m glad to see it happen to Toyota now too.

Next up, 3 soccer-moms in their new Accords will break their nails buckling up, and Honda will get sued. It’ll also be bull, but the joy of frivolous lawsuits must be shared. ‘Tis the season…

The real causes of the Toyota specific issue are still unknown, and there has been a tremendous amount of speculation about it over the years.
I disagree with Charlene Blake’s narrow focussed assessment of the sludge problem.
She blames Toyota exclusively, where in fact the issue is a complex one with any number of possibilities.
Her frequent appearances on the net are characterized by generalities and politicized rhetoric which appear to be thinly veiled attempts to raise alarm by innuendo and inference.
When pressed for facts and verification, she craftily avoids these challenges, and when she does respond, it’s always with more alarmist rhetoric.
The absence of factual and verifiable evidence in any of her remarks is conspicuous; it certainly doesn’t point to credibility.
While I hesitate to use the term ‘lies’ in describing much of the rhetoric she liberally dispenses, I must say it seems she does take some pretty wild liberties with the truth!!

Comment by RicardoHead

is it Singh, or Sing, LLN.

It’s Driver error.

Broken trucks, broken motors, tranny problems fuel pipe leaks, charred bodies. Ohhhhh what a feelin’ ! ! ! !

Its just an allegation, no proof. Toyota/GM know that they have no interest in letting defects roll of the line because it would cost them 100x more to fix it later either in a re-call or lawsuit. This is just frivolous lawsuit.

Having endured harassment for speaking out about the Toyota sludge problem since late 2000, I understand what Katy has experienced. There are plenty of vicious online attacks on those who wish to provide information and connect the stakeholders in cases of major Toyota problems. Why?

We believe it is because Toyota is keenly interested in protecting its name and reputation; the customers are a secondary thought. We, the affected Toyota owners, believe that Toyota will not acknowledge its vehicle defects properly, honestly.

We want to send a message that we will not be silenced. We want others to benefit from our experiences; we want the safe, reliable vehicles promised to us. We want Toyota to stop blaming the vehicle owners for inherent, major, safety-related problems.

Thank you, Katy! Encourage your Toyota associates to do the same! Cover up? Deception? Fraud? Many Toyota owners say so! Google “Toyota Sludge Petition” to learn more.

Charlene Blake
cblake@erols.com
Toyota Owners Unite for Resolution: Toyota Engine Oil Sludge

Cameron is a victim, as many people are wont to be. I’m not sure how much to believe her, if at all. But the article blasts toyota at the end, when this is a JV.

nitinsharma1000 “if she would have been workin for ferrari, lamborghini, alfa romeo, maserati… they would have made her an offer she couldnt refuse. Her signature or her brains would have been on that contract.”

funny stuff.

Fletch: there’s no such thing as a frivolous lawsuit. Some should be laughed out of the court, and this is probably one of those, but spare me the whiny “malpractice cap” crap.

6ix: “Sure, the plant may be run by a third party, but it’s still GM/Toyota’s product and it’s their responsibility to make sure quality standards are adhered to.” True.

vincenzo: don’t use the word “fanboy,” unless you’re 13 and debating the relative merits of PS3, Xbox and Wii. I prefer the PS3.

hockeygod1331: she ain’t smarter than me. few are. I’m a mother****in’ Renaissance Man.

Bryce: “She’s playing the “poor, poor me” card.” Exactly!

SwerveEarly: “anyone who has ever worked in the same office as women knows they are treated different and it forces everyone to be careful with how and what they say.” true, in most cases.

cfishgo: good theory.

CTS DRIVER: I see a sting operation in your future. Get the P-E on their asses!

planet_drive: “all thos (sic) lazy California workers should be fired.” “When I get back from my 2-hour coffee break, I’ll take issue with that.

Veda: yes, the envelopes.

DeansterTJ: Way to get right to the point.
3 good things come from canada — CFL, deantj and Gauge.

prove it.

Maybe if she were UAW she wouldn’t have this problem.