Thats all right it will just get recalled for various things too in a year.

A Supercharged range Rover Sport takes 168 feet to stop from 70 mph and it weighs nearly three tons. hahahah

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/10246/road-test-review-2006-land-rover-range-rover-sport-supercharged-page4.html

Lexus in general disappoints.

This car does what it was designed to do.

I’ll never buy one anyway.

Did they have a pre-production model that may not be 100% comparable to the actual production model? I wonder because I don’t see the point in Lexus making all these performance predictions knowing full well that the car would not meet their claims when actually tested by the magazines.

I can understand testing conditions explaining the 1/2 second slower than expected 0-60… but those braking numbers are horrible. Pre-production or not, for a sedan in this class to take 209 feet is laughable.

Wow!

Were they braking Flinstone style? That’s horrid.

58-year-old female real estate agents don’t need to accelerate that fast anyway!!

no matter how much cheaper this thing is, i’d still much rather take a s-class.

or an audi A8 or a BMW 7 series or a volkswagen phaeton or even cadillac’s still to come S class fighter

and madcapp you are 100% correct

Cadillac can’t come up with an S-class fighter cause there isn’t a cheap-ass Chevrolet model to base it on yet. Plus they don’t have the cachet that the Germans have, just the rep as a fogeymobile.

I’m sure it will still sell well. Acceleration or braking disappoints in an American car? Everyone would flee as if it were about to explode. Disappoint on a Lexus? “Oh, but it’s a Lexus. They’re perfect, and I’m boring.”

The acceleration numbers are not that important with a Vehicle this size as many have already mention- I think what is disturbing is the braking distance.
It is disappointing because it is a safety concern, and I honestly feel it is sub-par. They (Toyota) need to address this promptly: investigate to either validate/rebuff the claims; take immediate action to remedy the situation.

Wow, can’t wait to be rear-ended by a grandmother.

Don’t be too quick to bash. This is only one magazine review. But either way, they need to address this promptly.

Wait, isn’t Car and Driver one of the very same magazine that Jim Morgan and his ilk accuse of Conspiring against domestic manufactuers? Quick someone go outside and make sure the sky is still blue.

LMAO…where’s Toy Ota now? Hahaha!

This is relatively minor, but just one of many issues developing against Toyota right now. Toyota is reaching too far, growing too fast and getting too big. It’s a Japanese version of General Motors circa early seventies all over again.

Lexus = no thanks.

“Cadillac can’t come up with an S-class fighter cause there isn’t a cheap-ass Chevrolet model to base it on yet. Plus they don’t have the cachet that the Germans have, just the rep as a fogeymobile.

Comment by GarbageMotorsCorp, posted on September6 at 12:07 pm ”
You’re an ignorant moron. Cadillac doesn’t have any models based on Chevrolets, except for the Escalade which is based on the Tahoe/Suburban, and the XLR, which is based on the Corvette. Neither of which are cheap. The CTS & SRX are the first of its kind for the platform, and same for the STS and DTS (i.e. no cheap Chevrolets shared with them).

Fogeymobile? The DTS is, I agree. But that’s it. One lap on the Nurburgring in a CTS-V, and you will poop your pants.

GMC is right, Caddy is for fogeys. The only people pooping pants are the ones in the drivers seat . GM should market an optional bedpan for their Cadillac models. I think it would sell!

I’d rather be run over in an STS-V than come near this bland BMW/Merc wannabe

The five kids that drive CTS’s at my university are ancient; they’re like goddamn twenty or something.

this is impossible !!

check out this link, it is Car and Driver says 0-60 takes 5.5 seconds ……hahahaha

http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/11509/2007-lexus-ls460-and-ls460l-seclusion-and-v-8-engine-page2.html

I don’t want to poop my pants by driving a CTS-V around the Nurburgring. That would ruin the pleather!

Spoiled rotten brats at your university bud.

Never mind, there just Cadillacs, nothin special… Kids at my college aspire to own real cars

The point of this car is not drag racing, it is to cart wealthy people around in EXTREME luxurious comfort, with a smooth and powerful engine, and it does all of that perfectly, no its not the fastest but that’s not the point. Just wait for the LS 460h, with that combo of a hybrid/V8 it’ll make about 500 horsepower, maybe that will satisfy all of you.

1c3d0g, the answer to your question is they’re at the very top. They’re about to be the #1 car manufacturer in the world, making the highest quality vehicles. I don’t give a **** what the braking distances ONE magazine got on ONE test car, however i do care that toyota makes the most reliable and dependable vehicles on the road, something extremely important to 95% of the car buying public. But tell me , where is Ford and GM now? Oh that’s right, getting **** on by Toyota.

poor man’s s class haha

Patrick, I am sure you will give a crap when you rear-end someone because the breaks of your LS460 weren’t able to bring the car to compete stop quickly or worse still run into a Semi.
If I recollect correctly, the word “dependable” hasn’t lost it’s meaning.

“I’d rather be run over in an STS-V than come near this bland BMW/Merc wannabe”

Comment by BR, posted on September6 at 4:57 pm

You talk so much ****. Merc and BMW are in a different league compared to Lexus let alone cadillac.

That kind of braking performance is completly unacceptable in a vehicle of that caliber.

ooooooooops, Lexus Lexus what happened to you, looks like you have some problems?!

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Lexus should stick to its mantra of producing whisper quiet luxury cars. Forget about BMWs and sporting models.

Mercedes/BMW are lightyears ahead of whatever POS “luxury” car Lexus tries to sell to the poor suckers who think they’ve bought a good car.

1c3d0g, there are a good number of people who actually think the other way around given Lexus’ famous properties. For the same price as a BMW or MB, the cars (at least the Japanese versions) have far more technology features integrated. I can see why they would think Lexus is the smart choice. You should try owning a few, it may change the way you think about them.

No thanks Mister, I’ve driven enough of them around to cause me a week-long headache.

i sat inside a C230 before…one of the most boring cars ive ever been in. drove like a wheelbarrow too..

Car and Driver magazine SUck “D”
They are worse than Motor Trends…
Road & Track is the far best ~