Comments on: Lexus to revive L-Tuned? http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:01:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: LamborghiniZ http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280540 LamborghiniZ Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:41:06 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280540 He doesn't know better, he's most likely nothing more than a child. If what you were saying was "the truth" I wouldn't be arguing against it. It is a fact that Lexus makes the highest quality and most reliable vehicles on the road, with unbelievably luxurious interiors, and now they're starting to make sportier models too, to which I give them huge credit. Toyota while not a sporty car maker makes once again, the most reliable vehicles out there, and it's an extremely INTELLIGENT car company as well, offering what the public/the masses want, Toyota is smart, while GM/Ford is dumb. Toyota realizes that the average Joe doesn't give a damn about what car he drives, he wants something that drives smoothly, looks good inside/out, and will run day after day, year after year, with no issues. Toyota makes those vehicles, they know what people want, they build what they want, they do so effectively, and they make huge money off of it, that's why they're poised to become the largest manufacturer in the world in the next few years while you're precious GM's stock drops in values and its cars are sold thousands and thousands below MSRP and mediocre product after mediocre product is unvailed to little/no acclaim by the press/public. I'm speaking the truth. You, young child, are in denial. He doesn’t know better, he’s most likely nothing more than a child. If what you were saying was “the truth” I wouldn’t be arguing against it. It is a fact that Lexus makes the highest quality and most reliable vehicles on the road, with unbelievably luxurious interiors, and now they’re starting to make sportier models too, to which I give them huge credit. Toyota while not a sporty car maker makes once again, the most reliable vehicles out there, and it’s an extremely INTELLIGENT car company as well, offering what the public/the masses want, Toyota is smart, while GM/Ford is dumb. Toyota realizes that the average Joe doesn’t give a damn about what car he drives, he wants something that drives smoothly, looks good inside/out, and will run day after day, year after year, with no issues. Toyota makes those vehicles, they know what people want, they build what they want, they do so effectively, and they make huge money off of it, that’s why they’re poised to become the largest manufacturer in the world in the next few years while you’re precious GM’s stock drops in values and its cars are sold thousands and thousands below MSRP and mediocre product after mediocre product is unvailed to little/no acclaim by the press/public. I’m speaking the truth. You, young child, are in denial.

]]> By: Veda http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280532 Veda Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:06:16 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280532 1c3d0g, with all due respect a post consisting of a full single sentece slander hardly constitutes as "the truth". But then you most likely don't know better... 1c3d0g, with all due respect a post consisting of a full single sentece slander hardly constitutes as “the truth”. But then you most likely don’t know better…

]]> By: 1c3d0g http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280507 1c3d0g Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:28:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280507 Do I still sense a little bit of animosity there, LamborghiniZ? Why? You obviously don't like it when I speak the truth. Do I still sense a little bit of animosity there, LamborghiniZ? Why? You obviously don’t like it when I speak the truth.

]]> By: LamborghiniZ http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280499 LamborghiniZ Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:34:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280499 1c3d0g, once again another comment showing you are, at max, 15 years old. 1c3d0g, once again another comment showing you are, at max, 15 years old.

]]> By: gsh http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280328 gsh Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:29:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280328 isnt that why everyone likes aston martin? isnt that why everyone likes aston martin?

]]> By: joseph http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280322 joseph Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:56:34 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280322 Veda, LamboZ.......My thoughts exactly and that's what I've been trying to say....give credit where credit is due. It's fine to not like something, but why hate something for the sake of hating??? So what A4 is saying is that he respects a company that makes a couple of "Sports" cars, but is in debt in the billions and their future is uncertain??? Veda, LamboZ…….My thoughts exactly and that’s what I’ve been trying to say….give credit where credit is due. It’s fine to not like something, but why hate something for the sake of hating???

So what A4 is saying is that he respects a company that makes a couple of “Sports” cars, but is in debt in the billions and their future is uncertain???

]]> By: LamborghiniZ http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280240 LamborghiniZ Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:34:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280240 Veda you're exactly right, I was going to write a very similar response to A4. Maybe, just maybe, you can respect companies that don't build cars that you yourself would drive, maybe you can respect them for making high quality, in fact the HIGHEST quality cars on the market. Including Lexus. Highest quality. Not to mention your views on hybrids are, to put it simply, wrong. That's all there is to it, you're wrong, in a topic that's fact based, you. are. wrong. Yes you and 1c3d0g are the top members of the 15 year old gang, because all you do is write flaming biased responses about stuff, instead of being an objective car fan. Get a life you're ""opinions"" are truly not wanted. Veda you’re exactly right, I was going to write a very similar response to A4. Maybe, just maybe, you can respect companies that don’t build cars that you yourself would drive, maybe you can respect them for making high quality, in fact the HIGHEST quality cars on the market. Including Lexus. Highest quality. Not to mention your views on hybrids are, to put it simply, wrong. That’s all there is to it, you’re wrong, in a topic that’s fact based, you. are. wrong. Yes you and 1c3d0g are the top members of the 15 year old gang, because all you do is write flaming biased responses about stuff, instead of being an objective car fan. Get a life you’re “”opinions”" are truly not wanted.

]]> By: Veda http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280205 Veda Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:45:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280205 A4, I wouldn't hate a company for not making a single model to my liking. As long as they're ahead of the competition and are making mucho $, they get my respect for doing something right for the rest of the world. You probably just hate them because you really want a Toyota with their quality and cheap price but something that drives like a Bimmer. Well sometimes in this life you can't get everything. So maybe you need to get off your selfish ass a little and give credits when its due. Stay off your bias a little and you won't be grouped in the 15 year old gang like 1c3d0g. Plus, the L-Turned thing isn't even out yet. I wouldn't bash them until I've test driven at least one. A4, I wouldn’t hate a company for not making a single model to my liking. As long as they’re ahead of the competition and are making mucho $, they get my respect for doing something right for the rest of the world. You probably just hate them because you really want a Toyota with their quality and cheap price but something that drives like a Bimmer. Well sometimes in this life you can’t get everything. So maybe you need to get off your selfish ass a little and give credits when its due. Stay off your bias a little and you won’t be grouped in the 15 year old gang like 1c3d0g. Plus, the L-Turned thing isn’t even out yet. I wouldn’t bash them until I’ve test driven at least one.

]]> By: Veda http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280184 Veda Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:16:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280184 Heck, if this is a BMW thread, I'm sure we'll get Renton and Piablo yapping as well. Ha ha... Heck, if this is a BMW thread, I’m sure we’ll get Renton and Piablo yapping as well. Ha ha…

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280138 A4 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:45:21 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280138 and actually dipshit, losing in the comparison does mean that car blows asswater and that you should steer clear of it when you have options such as the M45 out there which costs thousands less and provides much more thrills. The green boner someone gets from having a stupid hybrid fake chrome stick-on on the side of their car is the only thing that could sell this car to someone. So basically, unless your a stupid tree hugging (and for some reason wealthy) hippie, chances are the hype of this shitbrick is dead. and actually dipshit, losing in the comparison does mean that car blows asswater and that you should steer clear of it when you have options such as the M45 out there which costs thousands less and provides much more thrills. The green boner someone gets from having a stupid hybrid fake chrome stick-on on the side of their car is the only thing that could sell this car to someone. So basically, unless your a stupid tree hugging (and for some reason wealthy) hippie, chances are the hype of this shitbrick is dead.

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280136 A4 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:42:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280136 LamborghiniZ: "and i can make a long list of the 'toasters' that Ford and GM make if youd like me to, to prove your naive ass wrong" i have never been supportive of domestic vehicles so im unsure at what your trying to prove me wrong for here and at least ford has the mustang and had the GT, not to mention successful SVT vehicles and official recognition of Saleen and Roush vehicles. GM has the Vette, Z06, the new Camaro, and their decent SS vehicles. Im not saying they dont have their "toasters" as well.. thats usually what their tuned cars are based upon... but the ONLY thing Toyota has is toasters. They killed the MR-2, the Supra, the Celica, and for what? a Yaris, a Prius, and an overpriced hybrid system for shitty lexus's? The reason they are so hated is cause they offer NO true performance whatsoever. I wouldnt hate them if they maintained a decent balance, but they are now 100% toaster, 0% fun. LamborghiniZ:
“and i can make a long list of the ‘toasters’ that Ford and GM make if youd like me to, to prove your naive ass wrong”

i have never been supportive of domestic vehicles so im unsure at what your trying to prove me wrong for here

and at least ford has the mustang and had the GT, not to mention successful SVT vehicles and official recognition of Saleen and Roush vehicles. GM has the Vette, Z06, the new Camaro, and their decent SS vehicles. Im not saying they dont have their “toasters” as well.. thats usually what their tuned cars are based upon… but the ONLY thing Toyota has is toasters. They killed the MR-2, the Supra, the Celica, and for what? a Yaris, a Prius, and an overpriced hybrid system for shitty lexus’s? The reason they are so hated is cause they offer NO true performance whatsoever. I wouldnt hate them if they maintained a decent balance, but they are now 100% toaster, 0% fun.

]]> By: 1c3d0g http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280130 1c3d0g Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:05:12 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280130 ??/WEKS/Phil: how's that threesome between you three going? Still screaming that you want more? Because before now I didn't know headless chickens could write, much less post on this board. I should call you the titty triplets. LamborghiniZ: why all the anger? :-P We all know you support VW since it's the parent company of Lamborghini. ??/WEKS/Phil: how’s that threesome between you three going? Still screaming that you want more? Because before now I didn’t know headless chickens could write, much less post on this board. I should call you the titty triplets.

LamborghiniZ: why all the anger? :-P We all know you support VW since it’s the parent company of Lamborghini.

]]> By: LamborghiniZ http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280120 LamborghiniZ Tue, 07 Nov 2006 18:07:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280120 Yeah A4, you guys both happen to share the same illogical, biased, bullshit disgust for Toyota, just because they know how to make a decent, quality car. Get over yourselves and learn something about cars, your comments are worthless as you are uninformed Yeah A4, you guys both happen to share the same illogical, biased, bullshit disgust for Toyota, just because they know how to make a decent, quality car. Get over yourselves and learn something about cars, your comments are worthless as you are uninformed

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280104 A4 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:43:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280104 you guys are retards i dont even know the kid god forbid two people share the same disgust for toyota if i had two accounts wouldnt i do it on EVERY post? or at least a handful...? you guys are retards i dont even know the kid
god forbid two people share the same disgust for toyota
if i had two accounts wouldnt i do it on EVERY post? or at least a handful…?

]]> By: BrokenCadillac... http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280101 BrokenCadillac... Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:34:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280101 Toyota has all the cash in the world to throw at a special line of performance vehicles. What they need to do is add more manual gearboxes to the mix. Toyota has all the cash in the world to throw at a special line of performance vehicles. What they need to do is add more manual gearboxes to the mix.

]]> By: moogleii http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280099 moogleii Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:21:00 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280099 Having used to be a valet, and having gone to all those damn car-company-sponsored autox events, and having driven my friends' cars, I can definitely say that, although Lexus's are fun in a straight line, their steering feels unresponsive. *Feels* is the keyword. It's still responsive, but it just feels loose. BMW's, older Honda's like mine, *feel* more responsive. The steering wheel offers more resistance when you turn. You feel like you're interacting with the tarmac. With Lexus's it's like there's some giant firewall between the ground and the steering wheel. It definitely feels like it was designed for rich people who don't want to be bothered by something trivial like, oh, steering. My friend had an IS300, and he drove my car, and the first words out of his mouth: it feels like a go-cart. And trust me, my car isn't a performance vehicle at all, but the steering just feels more responsive. Having used to be a valet, and having gone to all those damn car-company-sponsored autox events, and having driven my friends’ cars, I can definitely say that, although Lexus’s are fun in a straight line, their steering feels unresponsive. *Feels* is the keyword. It’s still responsive, but it just feels loose. BMW’s, older Honda’s like mine, *feel* more responsive. The steering wheel offers more resistance when you turn. You feel like you’re interacting with the tarmac.

With Lexus’s it’s like there’s some giant firewall between the ground and the steering wheel. It definitely feels like it was designed for rich people who don’t want to be bothered by something trivial like, oh, steering. My friend had an IS300, and he drove my car, and the first words out of his mouth: it feels like a go-cart. And trust me, my car isn’t a performance vehicle at all, but the steering just feels more responsive.

]]> By: eam3 http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280097 eam3 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:15:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280097 "There's speculation a new round of L-Tuned vehicles would more effectively target AMG and BMW's "M" division by offering tangible performance improvements." Funniest quote I've read in years. What kind of improvements? Will they include a DVD-A that plays engine noise and tire screeching according to the engine revs? How about a reclining backseat with separate radio and HVAC controls with REAL carbon fiber trim? Lexus performance = oxymoron. “There’s speculation a new round of L-Tuned vehicles would more effectively target AMG and BMW’s “M” division by offering tangible performance improvements.”

Funniest quote I’ve read in years. What kind of improvements? Will they include a DVD-A that plays engine noise and tire screeching according to the engine revs? How about a reclining backseat with separate radio and HVAC controls with REAL carbon fiber trim? Lexus performance = oxymoron.

]]> By: 6ix http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280090 6ix Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:40:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280090 All of you Lexus haters will be eating your words in probably 3-4 years. They'll have a sports car or sport sedan that makes us all drool. Toyota doesn't make mistakes. If they say they're bringing out a performance division of Lexus similar to BMW's M, I'd bet good money that the results will be very impressive. It's just a change in marketing, as they can certainly develop a car with incredible performance. That just needs to be the set goal for the engineers, 'tis all. They've already figured out how to make an unbelievably reliable and luxurious automobile. It's not like adding performance tuning will be that awful difficult, but i'm sure they'll do it in a much more pleasing manner than just slamming an enormous engine in it. All of you Lexus haters will be eating your words in probably 3-4 years. They’ll have a sports car or sport sedan that makes us all drool.
Toyota doesn’t make mistakes. If they say they’re bringing out a performance division of Lexus similar to BMW’s M, I’d bet good money that the results will be very impressive. It’s just a change in marketing, as they can certainly develop a car with incredible performance. That just needs to be the set goal for the engineers, ’tis all. They’ve already figured out how to make an unbelievably reliable and luxurious automobile. It’s not like adding performance tuning will be that awful difficult, but i’m sure they’ll do it in a much more pleasing manner than just slamming an enormous engine in it.

]]> By: ehhh? http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280089 ehhh? Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:09:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280089 Too bad lexus doesn't believe in manual transmissions. (though I guess MB doesn't either, but atleast their driving experience is not as numb.) Too bad lexus doesn’t believe in manual transmissions. (though I guess MB doesn’t either, but atleast their driving experience is not as numb.)

]]> By: WEKS http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280082 WEKS Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:53:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280082 "A4 and 1c3dog is the same person… hey who knows… " Of course they are the same person, 1c3d0g posted his reply one minute after A4's. Either that or they are brothers, or buttbuddys, or both. “A4 and 1c3dog is the same person… hey who knows… ”

Of course they are the same person, 1c3d0g posted his reply one minute after A4′s. Either that or they are brothers, or buttbuddys, or both.

]]> By: Kaizen http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280076 Kaizen Tue, 07 Nov 2006 05:50:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280076 IS500 coupe, fall 07. I'm gonna love to read the future comparos. IS500 coupe, fall 07. I’m gonna love to read the future comparos.

]]> By: DavidS http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280073 DavidS Tue, 07 Nov 2006 05:40:32 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280073 I'll believe it when I see it. The IS350 is a good start. It's a powerful, if somewhat (for lack of a better word) numb experience. It's got to have completely overrideable traction control, decent, responsive steering, and stiffer suspension than even the sportier Lexus models. It'll still be heavier than a BMW counterpart just because of what Mr. Carter says. I don't see it being an ultra pure sports car (Skyline, NSX, etc), but in my opinion that's not what Lexus should be targeting anyway. Even though a Lotus Elise is relatively inexpensive, you still don't see many people driving them. Not enough space for the golf bags, I guess. Aiming for M and AMG is a very high mark, and Toyota has the technology to pull it off. A Lexus competitor to the C55 and M3 would be interesting to see. I’ll believe it when I see it. The IS350 is a good start. It’s a powerful, if somewhat (for lack of a better word) numb experience.
It’s got to have completely overrideable traction control, decent, responsive steering, and stiffer suspension than even the sportier Lexus models.
It’ll still be heavier than a BMW counterpart just because of what Mr. Carter says.
I don’t see it being an ultra pure sports car (Skyline, NSX, etc), but in my opinion that’s not what Lexus should be targeting anyway. Even though a Lotus Elise is relatively inexpensive, you still don’t see many people driving them. Not enough space for the golf bags, I guess.

Aiming for M and AMG is a very high mark, and Toyota has the technology to pull it off. A Lexus competitor to the C55 and M3 would be interesting to see.

]]> By: Hyperion http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280072 Hyperion Tue, 07 Nov 2006 05:39:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280072 Lexus Performance is like saying Horseradish Dragster. Lexus Performance is like saying Horseradish Dragster.

]]> By: bepsf http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280070 bepsf Tue, 07 Nov 2006 04:59:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280070 "They could just as easily mess it up and create a performance car that has the numbest steering in the world and over-babied by stability control." Oh?  Like AMG? “They could just as easily mess it up and create a performance car that has the numbest steering in the world and over-babied by stability control.”

Oh?  Like AMG?

]]> By: ??? http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280060 ??? Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:10:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280060 lol... thats funny... A4 and 1c3dog is the same person... hey who knows... he/she could have easily created 2 accounts and just switches between them. Thats great, this way he/she is the only person who agrees with her/him self lol… thats funny… A4 and 1c3dog is the same person… hey who knows… he/she could have easily created 2 accounts and just switches between them. Thats great, this way he/she is the only person who agrees with her/him self

]]> By: The Stig http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280052 The Stig Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:31:16 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280052 Moving Lexus beyond a core-appliance brand? They've got to be joking. Moving Lexus beyond a core-appliance brand? They’ve got to be joking.

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280049 A4 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:06:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280049 toyota??? bring back a turbo??? hahahahahahahah! you wont see any other engine mod besides a 400 pound battery anytime in the next decade. toyota??? bring back a turbo??? hahahahahahahah! you wont see any other engine mod besides a 400 pound battery anytime in the next decade.

]]> By: Phil http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280046 Phil Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:47:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280046 I'm surprised Piablo hasn't commented either. That dips***'s 1c3d0g's twin. I’m surprised Piablo hasn’t commented either. That dips***’s 1c3d0g’s twin.

]]> By: nowei http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280044 nowei Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:37:16 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280044 start ruing! start ruing!

]]> By: nowei http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280043 nowei Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:36:40 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280043 I think the one thing we're forgetting is that Lexus has never really made a true attempt to make a performance car. Its always been luxury first and performance second. This was especially apparent when Toyota and Lexus were one brand in the rest of the world. The Soarer was badged as the Lexus SC300/SC400 in the States because it was a luxury coupe, where as the Toyota Supra remained the Toyota Supra and catered to the performance car market. So yeah, there have been a handful of theoretical performers from Lexus, but they were never designed as performers. We can criticize Lexus all we want, but I think its clear that they've had a strategy and its worked fantastically well for them. Up to this point, performance hasn't really been a part of that strategy. M and AMG will rue the day that Lexus starts getting serious. Not sure when that will be, or if it will happen, but if it does... watch out. /no I think the one thing we’re forgetting is that Lexus has never really made a true attempt to make a performance car. Its always been luxury first and performance second. This was especially apparent when Toyota and Lexus were one brand in the rest of the world. The Soarer was badged as the Lexus SC300/SC400 in the States because it was a luxury coupe, where as the Toyota Supra remained the Toyota Supra and catered to the performance car market.

So yeah, there have been a handful of theoretical performers from Lexus, but they were never designed as performers. We can criticize Lexus all we want, but I think its clear that they’ve had a strategy and its worked fantastically well for them. Up to this point, performance hasn’t really been a part of that strategy. M and AMG will rue the day that Lexus starts getting serious. Not sure when that will be, or if it will happen, but if it does… watch out.

/no

]]> By: leviathan18 http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280040 leviathan18 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:35:04 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280040 they can offer to get rid of stability control use turbos better driveline come on toyota did the supra they can offer to get rid of stability control use turbos better driveline come on toyota did the supra

]]> By: Veda http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280024 Veda Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:02:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280024 To be honest, excellent as they are Lexus' only downfall is when driven hard. Their fatal flaw imo is the soft and slow response of the tiptronic function. If this L line can compensate that, then they may very well be the perfect all around vehicles. To be honest, excellent as they are Lexus’ only downfall is when driven hard. Their fatal flaw imo is the soft and slow response of the tiptronic function. If this L line can compensate that, then they may very well be the perfect all around vehicles.

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280023 A4 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:01:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280023 beloved domestic vehicles... hmm i didnt know VWAG were "domestic" vehicles and dont forget lambo is included in that group, so go ahead and criticize them, youll only make yourself look like a fool idiot beloved domestic vehicles… hmm i didnt know VWAG were “domestic” vehicles

and dont forget lambo is included in that group, so go ahead and criticize them, youll only make yourself look like a fool
idiot

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280022 A4 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:59:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280022 uhh i can give you that list of Ford and GM cars too... most of them are crap and ive driven two lexus's and two toyota's and all sucked ass and also, read acura_el2000's post... i think C&D and R&T are both relatively reputable sources which i think can be trusted for accurate descriptions of a vehicles driving experience. Look why the GS450h couldnt beat out an M45, 550i, E500, and probably any of its other competitors, and then youll put a sock in it LamborghiniZ. uhh i can give you that list of Ford and GM cars too… most of them are crap
and ive driven two lexus’s and two toyota’s and all sucked ass
and also, read acura_el2000′s post… i think C&D and R&T are both relatively reputable sources which i think can be trusted for accurate descriptions of a vehicles driving experience. Look why the GS450h couldnt beat out an M45, 550i, E500, and probably any of its other competitors, and then youll put a sock in it LamborghiniZ.

]]> By: Don http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280020 Don Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:54:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280020 what about the IS500? what about the IS500?

]]> By: acura_el2000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280014 acura_el2000 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:24:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280014 easy there, I havent driven any lexuses myself, but I respect the opinion of C&D and R&T on the subject of cars. you shouldent be so quick to "talk shit" yourself. easy there, I havent driven any lexuses myself, but I respect the opinion of C&D and R&T on the subject of cars. you shouldent be so quick to “talk shit” yourself.

]]> By: LamborghiniZ http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280011 LamborghiniZ Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:00:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280011 Yeah A4 and 1c3d0g (who i am convinced is roughly 10 years old) are most likely related in some way, they both share the same bullshit biased beliefs about cars, are completely and totally ignorant to what the truth is regarding their beloved domestic vehicles (they blow), and of course talk shit about stuff they know NOTHING about. Regarding Lexus performance vehicles, A4, how many Lexus vehicles have you ever driven? And I can make a long list of the "toasters" that Ford and GM make if you'd like me to, to prove your naive ass wrong. Yeah A4 and 1c3d0g (who i am convinced is roughly 10 years old) are most likely related in some way, they both share the same bullshit biased beliefs about cars, are completely and totally ignorant to what the truth is regarding their beloved domestic vehicles (they blow), and of course talk shit about stuff they know NOTHING about.

Regarding Lexus performance vehicles, A4, how many Lexus vehicles have you ever driven? And I can make a long list of the “toasters” that Ford and GM make if you’d like me to, to prove your naive ass wrong.

]]> By: Kenny W http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280008 Kenny W Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:55:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280008 Lexus has never understood performance, but then again if Cadillac can do it then who are we to say Lexus can't. I wont hold my breath though. Lexus has never understood performance, but then again if Cadillac can do it then who are we to say Lexus can’t. I wont hold my breath though.

]]> By: acura_el2000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280006 acura_el2000 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:31:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280006 Toyota/Lexus + performance = joke. Toyota/Lexus + performance = joke.

]]> By: InvisibleEcho http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280005 InvisibleEcho Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:22:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280005 You know what though? They could just as easily mess it up and create a performance car that has the numbest steering in the world and over-babied by stability control. I mean, they have before. So hopefully they would change that in their setups before trying to really vie for any true performance setups. You know what though? They could just as easily mess it up and create a performance car that has the numbest steering in the world and over-babied by stability control. I mean, they have before. So hopefully they would change that in their setups before trying to really vie for any true performance setups.

]]> By: leviathan18 http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-280000 leviathan18 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:00:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-280000 a sport IS350 or something like mazdaspeed a sport IS350 or something like mazdaspeed

]]> By: joseph http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-279997 joseph Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:53:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-279997 LOL.....I figured 1c3d0g and A4 would be one of the first to comment. You two have to be the same person. People probably don't remember it because everyone remembers that Toyota (who makes "toasters") practically makes more money than all of the automakers put together. Their mistake was stated above....cosmetics. Hopefully they'll get it this time. More competition = better products. LOL…..I figured 1c3d0g and A4 would be one of the first to comment. You two have to be the same person. People probably don’t remember it because everyone remembers that Toyota (who makes “toasters”) practically makes more money than all of the automakers put together.

Their mistake was stated above….cosmetics. Hopefully they’ll get it this time. More competition = better products.

]]> By: calisto http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-279996 calisto Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:52:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-279996 A4 we all agree with you its just that you always post what we want to say first. A4 we all agree with you its just that you always post what we want to say first.

]]> By: 1c3d0g http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-279994 1c3d0g Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:44:04 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-279994 A4: likewise. ;) A4: likewise. ;)

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned.html#comment-279992 A4 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:40:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/06/lexus-to-revive-l-tuned/#comment-279992 hahaha finally someone who agrees with me hahaha finally someone who agrees with me

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