Hopefully it hits the wall.

Gosh, I hope they don’t have to recall it before the race is over!

HA! Watch for the Toyota cars to have much less maintenance and pit time than most of the others. You see in a 24 hour race there is much more stress put onto an engine and all the cars workings than in a normal event, so reliable performance is the key. Toyota engines have always been superb engines capable of being driven up to 300k miles sometimes with only regular maintenance, so I would expect the engines for their racing divisions to carry the same traits.

Thats kind of a cool way to further development of the car. Cant wait for the production car.

I wish GM would let one of their Corvette C6-R’s loose on this race and watch it kick the crap out of the LS-F. THAT would be entertainment.

I mean LF-A. Stupid alphabet soup name.

The C6R would fail before the 24 hours ended and probably be disqualified. It’s a great car, but reliability is an issue for 24 hours. That’s why they won’t enter it. It not just about performance, it’s also about reliability, tire wear and gas mileage, which is the ultimate test for any vehicle.

I agree with Z06ified. How cananyone say those aren’t as reliable as one of these lexus pos’s? GM has spent 1000’s of hours testing them.

The Covette teams seems to do extremely well at 24 LeMans, N Spec…

N spec - You’re a fool. The C6R DOMINATES 24 hour endurance races, and has for the past 8 years, going back to the C5R. Ever hear of a little race called the 24 hours of Le Mans? Out of the last 7 years, the Corvette C5R and C6R have placed 1st in 5 of the last 7 years, and placed 2nd in the other 2 years. In most of those races where there were two Corvettes competing, the Corvettes placed 1st and 2nd. That is domination of an endurance race. Toyota could only dream of such reliability and endurance.

LOL, these import humpers…

Mr. Z06ified,

To the best of my knoledge, Corvette has been competing in GT1 or equivalent classes over the years. As you know GT1 class cars are SIGNIFICANTLY modified. The most reliable cars in the world are Ferrari’s F430 and Porsche’s 911 (997 GT3 RS). All GT2 participating cars are either one of these, with rare exceptions (Spiker C8?). To sum up it is unprudent to classified any production car as reliable in a 24 Hour race, since only two models have proved or are being used as reliable competitors.

João

What cracks me up is that Toyota is this super car maker but can’t win Le Mans in any form. Ford has won numerous overall victories. GM has won back to back GT1 class victories with the Vette. Porsche is winningest marque in Le Mans. Even Mazda won one. Toyot tried and failed miserably and now they’re going to run their new car there? To get data? That think is gonna fall apart before the sun sets.

Go to any junk yard and see what’s there. Most of them are American made cars, I hardly see any Japanese cars in junk yards. Case closed.

“As you know GT1 class cars are SIGNIFICANTLY modified. The most reliable cars in the world are Ferrari’s F430 and Porsche’s 911 (997 GT3 RS). ”

The GT2 class cars are also significantly modified from stock. The different classes GT1/GT2, etc. regulate horsepower, weight, etc. As far as level of modifications, the classes aren’t much different. The GT2 Porsches and F430’s are far from stock.

The Corvette’s only real competition in GT1 has been the Pro Drive Aston Martins, and they haven’t put up much of a fight.

The Lexus LF-A racing protype is also looking to be highly modified from the stock street version.

“Go to any junk yard and see what’s there. Most of them are American made cars, I hardly see any Japanese cars in junk yards. Case closed.

Comment by pmpvtkc, posted on April21 at 4:53 pm”

Not so fast, skippy. 1) There are more American cars in junkyards because more American cars were made and sold in the U.S. than Japanese cars. 2) Junkyards are recyclers with limited space. Cars are kept in the yard as long as their parts are worth more than their scrap metal value. American cars often have used car parts worth more than Japanese car parts. Don’t believe me? Ask a junkyard owner.

At least Toyota competes in F1, whereas no American manufacturer even bothers to try.

^^^^^ Amen to that.

I meant the comment by Z06, no the dickhead that posted while I was typing, thanks you antiAmerican jackass

I think it would be sweet to see the LF-A race in the 24 hours Le-Mans race. It would be a great test of endurance for Lexus and if it fairs well would also make for some good PR. It would also be good to see the Corvette C6R have some REAL competition, however I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up in GT2. I think the Corvette team should enter a factory backed C6R and run in both GT1 and GT2, I remember hearing a rumor of a private owned team entering a Corvette in GT2. Who knows though. I know there will be Aston Martins running in both GT1 and GT2.

Oh to F3INT))AP3X’s comment, I’m not going to argue with you on Toyota having reliable engines. However you know this because I’ve seen from your comments you know what your talking about especially when it comes to racing and you know that a professional race prepped engine is very different from a production engine. So Toyota should have a good engine in their racing program, just like they do with their F1 cars, but the real test, is not only countless hours of endurance testing but it’s also the test of other competition. That will be the real test for Toyota on the race track.

Maybe a US manufacturer would be interested if there were any F1 races held in the US. Or if a significant percentage of Americans watched F1. Right now it would be a huge waste of money.

Opps, I was wrong, I let my judgement on the production Corvettes base my assumptions of the C6R. I was aware that the C5R did good, but I wasn’t sure about the C6R. Either way, the R versions are heavily modified for the situation just like the Ring pre-production Z06 that made the controversal, but still impressive lap time. The production corvettes while very simplistic in design and engineering have had many issues, and I am speaking previous gens, c5 and older. Mostlikely due to the high volume of sales like many other high volume vehicles that have atleast 2-3 recalls.

We’ll see how the c6 fares in the next few years. I have yet to see a vette with over 100k miles or even 200k miles for that that ran perfect like many other import sport cars. The production c6 is still a great car for the buck though, and the new redesign that is rumored to come soon will hopefully put the overall design in a new sophisticated level. I actually might consider owning one if they step up the design level; interior still needs work.

Nice try, pmpvtkc, but I see just as many Japanese and European imports at junkyards as domestic cars. Why don’t YOU try going to a junk yard.

Sorry, nowei, Toyota doesn’t NOT compete in F1. Honda does. Toyota competes in IRL and NASCAR, and maybe a few other insignificant motorsports.
928dreamer is right, after last year’s race in Indianapolis I don’t think there’s going to be another U.S. race for a long time which really sucks. Now I have to go to Canada to watch my first F1 race. GAY

I’m curious to see how this goes. It seems kinda unorthodox to get data in a 24-hour race, but I guess we’ll see how that goes. I kinda like the way it looks. I’m usually more into the whole mid-engine look but this actually works for this car. I’m gonna save my reservations though. I wanna see how the production car does.

Yeah, Mazda is the ONLY Japanese company to win the LeMans. They probably would have won more, but they banned rotary engines when they won it.

Funny how they require so much maintenance and crap on RX-8s but, that 4 rotor Mazda sure works in races.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_787B

Sorry C6 Racer, but Toyota most definitely does compete in Formula 1. Their drivers are Jarno Trulli and Timo Glock. And as for corvettes dominating the GT1 class? There are usually a majority of corvettes competing in this class! Sometimes Aston Martin will enter a car (like last year where they won the class at Le Mans), but they usually only field two compared to around four or five corvettes. So it’s not hard to get first or second most of the time given their numbers in competition.

Well, C6Racer is going to be surprised not only to find a Toyota team, but also another team using Toyota engines (Williams) racing around during his first F1 race.
Also, could you feces throwing monkeys wait until the said race has been raced, before throwing said feces on each other?

Sprockets,

I don’t think the Rotary Engine is entirely banned from the Lemans racing series. The RX-8 ran this year’s Daytona 24 hours. I also believe the RX-8s all finished very favorably. I’m not down turning what you’ve said, I agree with you.

I’m not sure why various technologies are being banned let and right then overturned in a few years. This is NOT NASCAR.

At any rate the Rotary belongs in racing. Heck most auto makers were seriously considering using Rotary engines in the 1960s and 1970s. They know this stuff works.

The CORVETTE has a reputation on the streets and at the track for being damn near indestructible. From the C2 on it has been a serious sports and racing car. 50 years of history will attest to that. The CORVETTE C5R and C6R both have ruled pretty much unopposed.

The VIPER is was a major competitor but is now just an “also ran”. ASTON MARTIN has always been a strong competitor but has fallen back as of late. I’m surprised JAGUAR has not made some kind of showing. FORD never got to really field the GT. I’ve seen a couple but they were not running to win. Just another “also ran”. I would welcome some competition to get GM the push the CORVETTE up to the next level. PORSCHE used to run the 911 in GT1 but dropped back to the “modified stock” GT2 class. SALEEN ran the S7 in the GT1 but no more. Maybe the S5S will come in soon.

PANOZ used to run in P1 and was extremely hard to beat. They also used to run GT1 against mainly PORSCHE. When PORSCHE quit GT1 for GT2 PANOZ just kinda faded away from the ALMS and Lemans in general. I would like to see more automakers make a real showing in these races, like MAZDA and NISSAN (No. The GT-R would be DQ’d just for being AWD but they still have the 350Z - soon 370Z).

I would Expect TOYOTA and HONDA to run GT1. If a Supra debuted, then GT2 as well. I see nothing to be expected of HONDA aside from a GT1 and P1, by way of ACURA.

TOYOTA has a strong Formula program, though like most Japanese auto racing it is mostly in Japan. HONDA makes a bigger deal about their racing.

As for IRL/CART it is roundly equivalent to Formula racing in most regards but errs on endurance more than the agility of a typical F1. They are still very close despite racing criteria. I hate NASCAR. Too uniform and too boring. Use the in-field course more than once or twice a year, Dang it!

I have to recognize Lexus is a GREAT car manufacturer but i HATE it…I like Toyota.
I can’t stand Lexus “I’m original” look. ALL Lexus models’ exterior, without exceptions, are a blend of cool cars like Mercs & Bimmers. So obviously they got to look cool.