Comments on: Lutz: Cadillac CTS-V Sport Wagon a go

By: JohnnyViking

JohnnyViking — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:40:29 +0000

Sportwagon is a patented name from Alfa Romeo. Bet the lawyers will have fun, Sport Wagon vs Sportwagon…

By: carstuff

carstuff — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:37:47 +0000

The CTS wagon was initially developed/tooled for the European market where wagons are everywhere. The US sold ones will be just additional profit.

By: easyrider

easyrider — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:26:39 +0000

LMAO, you’re right! Too bad the people don’t survive to tell how fast they were going:(

By: DenverGuy217

DenverGuy217 — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:24:42 +0000

easyrider – have you not seen a Lexus or Toyota move after its accelerator pedal has ‘gotten stuck’?

By: Zesty Honda

Zesty Honda — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:54:11 +0000

LLN, Audi doesn’t make a RS6 Avant for the U.S. anymore! Therefore, Cadillac will not have much competition in that segment (sub 60k performance wagon; i.e. Porsche Panorama doesn’t count).

By: excrement_between_my_toes

excrement_between_my_toes — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:50:32 +0000

What a joke. Cadillac lol, the Chevrolet of automobiles. But all you GM nut heads who rave about the ctsv like its the greatest thing ever built on this planet should be thankfull to BMW and Mercedes. They are the ones who started this trend of taking upscale sedans and turning them into luxury ultra high performance machines. THats why they are still at the top of this game and always will be. This ctsv wagon looks like a joke, and I know only a very very few will buy this ugly thing. Allowing for GM to continue its trademark trend of losing money.

By: ajm11

ajm11 — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:19:47 +0000

I think building the CTS-V wagon is a good idea. The development costs are next to nothing on it due to the fact that they are already building the CTS wagon, and the they already have all the other components from the regular CTS V. And those complaining about wagons, don’t you know wagons are in again. Just look at BMW and Mercedes.

By: easyrider

easyrider — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:15:10 +0000

Too bad all you haters know the japs having nothing that can touch the Caddy, neither do the Germs for that matter.

By: leftwingagenda

leftwingagenda — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:10:53 +0000

what makes you think everybody is ok with the cayenne turbo? lots of people here don’t like it and have expressed that repeatedly…your argument assumes people like things that they clearly don’t like…but this article isn’t about those vehicles, so you don’t see those opinions here…

this site is full of dorks, dorks who make big assumptions to construct quasi-insulting arguments…

By: teahead

teahead — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:57:51 +0000

How is this any more dumb than a Porsche Cayenne turbo? Or a Mercedes GL63 AMG?

No one seems to have a problem with tall, ill-handling hyper SUVs, but a wagon, which is what an SUV really is, everyone seems to hate.

Whatever. This site is full of dorks.

By: 85ZingoGTR

85ZingoGTR — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:12:52 +0000

@ andy – NVM. I didn’t see it was CTS-V Wagon. No. It looked like it was only the wagon. No mesh grille on it. I saw it on the opposite side on the highway so it was only a glance.

By: Cardemon04

Cardemon04 — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:29:51 +0000

make that last part “a wagon version of the CTS-V”

By: Cardemon04

Cardemon04 — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:27:06 +0000

I dont get the whole wagon thing… II see one and I want to gouge my eyes out. I just hope they’re able to sell enough of them to make it worth the investment. Personally I think this is a poor decision

Architect; clearly you have an extremely limited understanding of manufacturing. Even the smallest change can cost millions of dollars in engineering work and tooling changes, so something like creating a Wagon version of the CTS could cost hundreds of millions of dollars.

By: reedfast

reedfast — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:50:22 +0000

^you don’t have to take that back, they do look like cheap rent-a-car sh!t.

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:42:45 +0000

MHW, I think you’re right. But when you see, for example, any 3-Series, they all look quite… for lack of a better term… finished. I don’t think Cadillac is at that level yet.

By: jcbeeno

jcbeeno — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:39:25 +0000

This could very well be the nicest Caddy I have EVER driven!

Jess

By: leftwingagenda

leftwingagenda — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:35:10 +0000

nothing says “ridiculous ford homer” quite like throwing the SHO into a comparison with the CTS-V…sorry, tools, but they’re not comparable…

i saw a CTS-V the other day and it sure sounded badass, but i think a wagon version is pretty dumb…that’s just my personal bias, though…if i’m comfy spending the 60k plus for a cts-v, and i need to haul stuff, i’ll use my other ride for that…but who knows, maybe i’m misjudging the 60k+ station wagon market…

can’t really comment on the CTS base…i like the look of the CTS, even though i probably wouldn’t own one myself…it’s different enough that they get credit for promoting angularity in a world of smooth-mobiles…

By: MHW

MHW — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:28:42 +0000

johnnycanuck, I think it depends on the color, for example a black base CTS with deeply tinted windows can look pretty hot. I agree the base model CTS looks only average in light colors, but I think it looks better than average in dark colors.

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:17:41 +0000

Can I retract some of my post? I shouldn’t have said that the base versions look like sh*t… that was Monday talking. They do look… well, average. As in I wouldn’t spend my after tax dollars on one just to say I had a CTS.

By: andy

andy — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:24:22 +0000

85ZingoGTR: did you see a wagon or a v-wagon?

By: 85ZingoGTR

85ZingoGTR — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:18:46 +0000

Aren’t they alittle late for this article? I already seen one on the road.

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:15:36 +0000

Am I the only guy who has noticed that base versions of the CTS sedan look like sh*t? You know… the six cylinders ones- especially in silver… it’s kind of like looking at a squared off G6. And yet the V looks awesome… go figure. Yeah I’m getting into some slightly off kilter intangibles here but I swear to you no other car out there so clearly demonstrates that magnitude of desirability between trim levels.

That’s what scares me about this car. I love wagons… own two of them… but if I couldn’t have the V I don’t think I’d even consider anything less.

By: MHW

MHW — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:14:25 +0000

How can one site have so many freaking experts? Personally I think Cadillac is on the right path with the CTS line. The V-wagon will be a nice addition and the V-coupe is going to be simply bada$$.

By: cocojoe53

cocojoe53 — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:00:30 +0000

Ahhh The G8…I just want to know why

By: idrinorbarsaku

idrinorbarsaku — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:30:48 +0000

Cool, you guys are having a discussion about me…LMAO!!! I only have one screen name…unlike some low -lifes on here!

So, people, if you want to know what it feels like to be a complete idiot, just ask BuyUSA! He seems to excel in it!

PS: I find it funny how you guys are comparing caddy to ford! Yup, that makes a lot of sense…as much as comparing honda to lexus!

j-dubb,
Here’s some knowledge! Having cutting edge technology and performance doesn’t mean you have to be the fastest thing out there!

By: Ring-Taxi

Ring-Taxi — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:11:23 +0000

Sales flop. I don’t care if it has a bajillion HP. Stick to regular models.

By: CarResearcher

CarResearcher — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:58:17 +0000

GM is getting too wagon-crazy. Let’s hope they’re takers out there that will fork up $60,000 plus dollars for an American wagon!

By: 05Z88Path

05Z88Path — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:34:28 +0000

It’s a CTS-V…it doesn’t matter if it has 2-doors or 4-doors…a big ass or a small ass…it has 556hp under the hood and is the sexiest American car currently on sale next to the Corvette! Of course it’s freaking awesome, and anyone who thinks otherwise should get their head checked.

By: Architect

Architect — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:27:34 +0000

Sweet…

…and to all of you complaining about “development” costs…there are none. All the mechanicals are already available. There’s more cost involved in advertising/marketing this new V variant than there is in engineering.

By: andy

andy — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:23:46 +0000

@EMINEM: it doesnt take much effort or money to extend the roof on the CTS, plus the price premium for both the wagon and wagon-V makes it well worth it, even if they dont sell near RS6 numbers.

By: A4

A4 — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:20:44 +0000

HELLLLLS YEAH!

By: Kid Icarus

Kid Icarus — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:11:38 +0000

Yet another poor decision by a poorly managed company

By: teahead

teahead — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:52:01 +0000

Haters.

A 556HP wagon is awesome!

ANd the dork who’d rather have a slow SHO? LOL!

By: Borat

Borat — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:51:46 +0000

I wonder if we will need even newer GM after all of those high price low volume experiments.

By: Dr.Martens

Dr.Martens — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:47:10 +0000

NOT idrinorbarsaku, I meant nmofgms stepdad and fordman

By: Dr.Martens

Dr.Martens — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:46:08 +0000

BuyUSA,
I dont think idrinorbarsaku is nmofgms stepdad, if anything its proabably fordman, No disrespect to you idrinorbarsaku, but i notice in your posts you tend to spell words correctly, and your sentences are actually correct, While on the other hand fordman always writes run ons, or misspells words. In any either case their both stupid

By: EMINEM

EMINEM — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:41:09 +0000

j-dubb
thats beyond what the real issue is. How can gm keep “borrowing” millions, getting themselves in debt, and screwing people over. They should have used the bailout money to produce ever great mileage cars. Dont get me wrong, their lineup is nice, and there so called mpg ratings are acceptable. But do we really need 3 models of the same cts? And do you really think its going to be a hard hitter. Now on the thing about performance, does anyone really care about going 0=60 in 4 secs? I mean come on man, be real. IM NOT DISSING GM, a lot of their cars were a part of my childhood, i just dont want to see them go away into extinction because of their useless spending on these variants, and ” high end cars” Leave that to bmw,audi, and all them.

By: Pazzo Canguri

Pazzo Canguri — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:40:26 +0000

Damn thats a ugly……and they kill of the pontiac G8 …… amazing..

By: BuyUSA

BuyUSA — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:37:13 +0000

@NMOFGM’s Step Dad

I know that’s you, idrinorbarsaku. I’ve noticed for quite some time now that everytime an anti-GM comments is made attached with “Buy Ford instead,” you chime in a few minutes later under your real screen name. Ok you work for Ford and you love Fords, we get it.

By: j-dubb

j-dubb — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:32:32 +0000

when I think of American performace I think of the Vette, Since Cadillac is GM the V series cars are nothin more than mini vettes with leather and a caddy crest on it. for everybody prasing Ford and there brand new untested so called ecoboost performance engines, to my understanding Ford still didnt engineer this technology it was borrowed from BMW but as I was saying Ford dont have a single vechicle in their line-up that can go 0-60 in 4 secs like this Caddy can so who is really at the cutting edge of performance and Technology ..hint..not ford

By: DenverGuy217

DenverGuy217 — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:30:38 +0000

First Buick news and now Cadillac. GM’s getting performance wagon happy these days

By: EMINEM

EMINEM — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:23:52 +0000

Good Point

By: idrinorbarsaku

idrinorbarsaku — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:23:06 +0000

I think it would have looked better if the rear pillar wasn’t a foot long!

By: reedfast

reedfast — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:16:30 +0000

the audi still has more power, and its actually got real windows, good luck trying not to hit things in the parking lot with that.

By: NMOFGMs Step Dad

NMOFGMs Step Dad — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:14:24 +0000

Fugh Government Motors, i’ll take a new taurus sho anyday. This car wont even last. Well all now caddilacs always end up in shops. How often do you see older model caddy’s on the road that are not driven by old people………..I rest my case