GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz is fully behind development of Chevrolet’s aggressive Volt plug-in hybrid, but not for the same reasons as many environmentalists. Mr. Lutz — GM’s go-to man for one-liners and candid opinion — had some choice words against the claim of global warming.
“Global warming is a total crock of shit,” Lutz told a group of mostly local journalists during a closed-door meeting at the Cacharel restaurant near Dallas and Fort Worth. “I’m a skeptic, not a denier … I’m motivated more by the desire to replace imported oil than by the CO2.”
Aside from CEO Rick Wagoner, Lutz is among the highest-ranking GM executives who speaks with the press on a regular basis.
According to D Magazine, Lutz made it clear his opinion doesn’t guide GM. “My opinion doesn’t matter,” he said. Of course, GM has done nothing to tone down the outspoken executive during his tenure as head of product development.
Indeed, Lutz is no stranger to controversial points of view. He is openly opposed to the U.S. government’s new CAFE fuel efficiency standards, which he has claimed will add $6,000 to $10,000 to the price tag of most cars.
He even went as far as blasting his own company in 2006 for failing to compete with Japanese automakers early on. “I can’t believe that we were so stupid,” he said in March of that year.



02/12, 9:18 PM
posted by:
terminator
Lutz is the man!
02/12, 9:19 PM
posted by:
Ray Sinclair
I agree with Lutz.
02/12, 9:19 PM
posted by:
Ray Sinclair
He’ll probably catch a lot of hell for his comments, but we’ll see….
02/12, 9:29 PM
posted by:
441Zuke
that’s awesome . he makes some werid decisions but that is funny
02/12, 9:31 PM
posted by:
affliction
Lutz is an idiot. He’s not even able to make GM profitable yet now he claims he’s a scientist. There is global warming and it will cause a chain of events that will lead to a global ice age. I’m not a prius owner but I know my facts. BTW, I’m not one of those “green” people who always protest about the environment.
02/12, 9:32 PM
posted by:
seanm415
Thanks, Bob, for enlightening all of us and solving that myth. But maybe you should have used some of that wisdom and omnipotence to prevent your company from losing 38.7 billion dollars last year.
02/12, 9:34 PM
posted by:
Impulsive
“… the desire to replace imported oil …”
He’s not as selfish and oblivious as I first thought.
02/12, 9:40 PM
posted by:
johnnycanuck
That’s it. I’m headed to the mall with a can of flat black aerosol and shooting ‘Lutz rools’ on every Chevy I can find until I get caught or run out of paint.
02/12, 9:48 PM
posted by:
autonut
Lutz: “I can’t believe that we were so stupid”. I do. Warmer weather trends are occurring every 25-40 years. There are also more profound warming trends or cold trends: mini ice age in 7-10 centuries and warming in 10-13 (Renaissance). What is unknown if this trend caused by human activity. And most scientists working on the subject believe that it is quite probable (not guaranteed but probable).
Making better and more fuel efficient cars is not mutually exclusive. Compare cars of today and 40 years ago. They are certainly better and some are even more fuel efficient.
02/12, 9:57 PM
posted by:
DrFill
Lose $38 Billion
Now blow off the environment
1-2
1-2
And you don’t stop……
DrFill
02/12, 10:09 PM
posted by:
F451
Somehow, I just knew Bobby’s mug would appear here, after all he’s a supreme Glory Boy. Bobby will not be alive when, and if, the major effects of global warming hit, so what does he care?
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“…Lutz made it clear his opinion doesn’t guide GM. “My opinion doesn’t matter,” he said.” What an incredible statement for someone in his position; he is truly an arrogant bastard who needs to be let go. The Board of Directors needs a housecleaning too. Bobby can’t meet the challenge so he blames others, pathetic.
02/12, 10:21 PM
posted by:
Ray Sinclair
F451,
As I might have mentioned before on this site, You may want to check your nut-sack. I think your balls are gone.
02/12, 10:23 PM
posted by:
Elvio
I am glad that he finally realizes GM equal Garbage Motor.
02/12, 10:24 PM
posted by:
bun_a_gm
YES LUTZ!!!
02/12, 10:24 PM
posted by:
Buivrolet
Lutz is the MAN.
02/12, 10:35 PM
posted by:
BradBot
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Global warming is a business, not a problem created by humans.
How did the previous ice ages come to an end? Their Flintstones’ vehicles were foot powered, so you can’t blame them for global warming.
02/12, 10:41 PM
posted by:
illwill
I absolutely agree with him.
02/12, 10:54 PM
posted by:
LamborghiniZ
God Lutz is a dumbass. Pathetic really. This is why the New York Times had an article today on the online front page talking about GM loosing huge money this quarter. Comes as no surprise with this idiot running things. I will never purchase from ignorance.
02/12, 10:57 PM
posted by:
Xile
BradBot –
I think the rate of temperature change over a short period of time is what is so alarming. Didn’t the ice ages occur over thousands of years?
Anyway, I don’t care what Lutz’s rationale for building the Volt is but I hope it is a success. It seems like a lot of GM’s turnaround can be attributed to him and for that, he deserves credit.
02/12, 10:58 PM
posted by:
pezones
he’ll be dead in a few years, he could give two ****s if the earth explodes
02/12, 11:00 PM
posted by:
Madcapp
GM products are a total crock of $#!t
02/12, 11:05 PM
posted by:
F451
@Ray Sinclair, GM will do substantially better without Bobblehead Bob Lutz. Balls are about meeting the challenge—not blaming it on everyone else, or saying some Lutz bull**** how he predicted this or that. If so, why hasn’t he met the challenge? You aren’t that nut case on Lutz’s blog where Lutz answered his post directly, and then you ran over to your pathetic blog and told everyone how Lutz personally answered you, are you? If you want to kiss Lutz’s shriveled old ass, go right ahead; I am more concerned about GM versus some overpaid, overhyped, media junkie like Lutz.
02/12, 11:16 PM
posted by:
hateful83
CAFE might seem like a crock of **** to him but global warming? Who says that? Before I talk **** on GM I always have to say how I’m also a fan. Now, any simpleton should have an idea that global warming is in fact real. As far as weither it’s from humans or not is debatable, but its exsistence isn’t. I just read an article today talking about the rate of which antarctica is melting. They went on to say that some scientists are trying to come up with a way to suspend a shade in orbit above antarctica. We might want to believe that it’s a joke, but unfortunately it’s not.
02/12, 11:20 PM
posted by:
Blakkarr
No one listens to business people about the environment because they will only tell you what will help their bottom line.
Once it becomes cheaper to build ecologically responsible products than not to, Lutz and the rest of them will change their tune.
They just need to listen to us, because we are the one’s with the money. If they don’t build what we want, then we won’t buy.
02/12, 11:20 PM
posted by:
5ohstang
What controls the temperature on Earth? The sun. Thats your answer. The earth does goes thought warming and cooling cycles because of the suns effect on, well, everything.
02/12, 11:21 PM
posted by:
Blakkarr
Even if, by some wild chance, we are wrong about Global Warming, I only have this to say: “Mother Nature does NOT need our help.”
02/12, 11:24 PM
posted by:
Ray Sinclair
F451,
Under Lutz, Chrysler became the domestic leader for design. Today, GM has the freshest domestic cars on the market. The reason for the billions lost has very little to do with Lutz. GM is paying for poor decisions it made over the last 25 years. Once they become lean and mean, look out…
and by the way, F451, I have faith one day you’ll find your missing balls.
02/12, 11:35 PM
posted by:
johnnycanuck
murdermouth: and what about asteroids? And the plague? Planet of the Apes? The Borg? Gay marriage? Peyton and Eli in the Super Bowl? Geez, I may not sleep tonight. Thank gawd we have strong beer up here.
02/13, 12:03 AM
posted by:
F451
@Ray Sinclair, Once GM becomes lean and mean again Lutz will be dead. And not soon enough. The Lutz Chrysler legacy? Pleeeeeease. Yeah, Chrysler is looking real spiffy these days because of Lutz’s legacy. LMAO
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I will agree that GM does stand a chance, but not without major changes from the top down.
02/13, 12:19 AM
posted by:
frankhoffy
I have a new hero, and it is Bob Lutz.
This guy ever think of running for president?
02/13, 12:21 AM
posted by:
peter g
It’s beyond comprehension that he supposedly said that; I simply refuse to believe that he can be that ignorant.
02/13, 12:42 AM
posted by:
bolex
maximum idiot. putting his foot in his mouth again, the way he did when he said the prius was a passing trend (VOLT). doesnt matter if its real or not, the world is on a green kick right now especially with cars, and the press and competitors can go on a field day with this. mix this negative press with the 37billion loss (or whatever) and GM is headed in the right direction! damn just when i thought the guys running ford were idiots…
02/13, 12:49 AM
posted by:
The Stig
Classic Bob.
02/13, 1:30 AM
posted by:
Ray Sinclair
Love the “Green” People who drive HYBRIDS for the environment’s sake. Let’s see…those cars use gasoline just like regular cars, only what remains of them once they make it to the junkyard will be far worse for the environment then a regular car. Believe all this hype if you want to-it’s all a trend. 70 years ago, this type of B.S. was known as propaganda.
I don’t question the ice caps melting, but I am aware that they’ve been melting since before cars were around. When ice cubes melt, they seem to melt quicker as they get smaller. So I would imagine the ice caps would be melting quicker and quicker. But what do I care? I live about 20 miles from the ocean, and if it means that one day my home will beach front property, then BRING IT ON!
02/13, 1:33 AM
posted by:
AxeHead
I used to be ambivalent towards Lutz, but after that statement “Bob is my hero”. He’s the only executive with enough balls to tell it like it is … reminds me of our own Don Cherry.
Global warming is a natural cyclical event. Actually, Antartica is gaining ice, not loosing it and most of the ice lost in the North is already gained back again.
Maggotmouth – you’ve taken so much of this bull**** propaganda up the ass you love it. Why don’t you post on some queer, weinie mobile web site and just leave.
02/13, 2:04 AM
posted by:
AxeHead
By the way, If Lutz got into a fight with Gore, I think he’d kick Gore’s stuffed, hypocritical, pink, fat, ASS. Lutz = Iron Man … Gore = Fairy Man.
02/13, 2:18 AM
posted by:
e36m
How long before GM and Lutz have an official statement about how he didnt say this?
02/13, 3:04 AM
posted by:
sharpie
“I’m a skeptic, not a denier”
Yeah that comes right after you called global warming sh**! I have never seen back-paddling happening so quickly. Have some freaking backbone. Believe in what you say or else, don’t waste everybody’s time to be politically correct! Bob, you should run for president, you are made for it!
02/13, 6:57 AM
posted by:
meekin111
This was a big mistake, regardless of what he thinks, or what the facts are this is a very unpopular thing to say at them moment. It makes him, and GM seem more out of touch and stuck in the past than they are.
02/13, 7:24 AM
posted by:
gilby7
Typical old redneck. Whether it’s “global warming”, “climate change”, or whatever it is, a cycle of some sort, things are changing and humans have to respond to that. You’d think a guy with kids and grandkids, and probably great-grandkids, would want them to have a decent world to grow up in.
02/13, 7:32 AM
posted by:
JohnnyBlazE
It’s not Lutz I agree with as such… It’s Jeremy Clarkson
02/13, 8:30 AM
posted by:
purdue
He’s human. He has opinions. Some good some bad. In HIS country of residence, all are given the right to speak their opinions freely. He has decided to exercise this right. It’s part of daily existence here. And should always be.
02/13, 8:45 AM
posted by:
livelyjay
Even if he doesn’t believe the global warming theory, I still like that GM is baking the development of the Volt. Be it for dependence on foreign oil or CO2, vehicles like the Volt will push hybrid technology even farther.
02/13, 8:46 AM
posted by:
livelyjay
** edit ** ….. “backing” the development of the Volt …. not “baking” the development …. although they might have been baked to lose $38 billion in one year.
02/13, 8:48 AM
posted by:
corvette
damn talk about being to the point.
02/13, 8:48 AM
posted by:
onramp
Wow, just as my opinion of GM was starting to improve, Lutz sends it right down into the trash again. Way to go Bob. Great corporate spokesman.
I hear comments from Lutz like this and regarding CAFE and it just makes me think he believes GM engineers are a bunch of idiots who can’t engineer a solution to these problems. Wake up Bob, we can and will.
You guys who think we can’t be environmentally friendly and still build performance cars are so short sighted and offensive to the engineers in this world it’s incredible.
02/13, 8:51 AM
posted by:
Fletch
Oh what’s the big deal, the earth can heal itself in a mere 10,000 years, which is a blip in it’s lifespan. We all think we’re so god damn important.
Fine, in around 50 years we’ll probably have some widespread, affordable energy technology to replace a big chunk of fossil fuels and we’ll see if anything changes. Maybe it will effect climate change, maybe it won’t. It’s an experiment that worth trying though, just to get the oii money out of the middle east if nothing else.
02/13, 9:10 AM
posted by:
fan
according to how the rest of the world sees americans, EVERY single person in the US should believe what hes ranting. hes got good hair, a dark suit and a tie that isnt clip-on. mostly, the rest of the world senses this is who americans trust…
glad to see the majority on here does NOT believe in what he says…
anyway, if the Volt is what they claim it to be, that doesnt really matter WHY they build it…
IF it ever gets there…
02/13, 9:25 AM
posted by:
Z06ified
Lutz is right – these environmental weenies don’t have a freakin clue.
Our carbon emissions is a pimple on an elephant’s behind in the whole scheme of things. The planet has created more CO2 emissions from random seismic events in its history than humans have ever emitted in our entire history of burning fossil fuels. One massive volcano eruption can release more CO2 in one event than all the fossil fuels we’ve ever burned. It’s happened before, and its likely to happen again – just a matter of when. Trying to reduce CO2 emissions from fossil fuels is like pissing on an inferno.
And for the financially ignorant: GM did not lose $38 billion last year. They had $38 billion of unused tax credit write-offs which were non-cash and had no financial impact on the company. GM was effectively breakeven last year, losing $23 million. Every GM group was profitable except for North America and the GMAC minority interest. Read the numbers and learn. Or listen to the media and remain ignorant.
02/13, 9:40 AM
posted by:
Z06ified
And those claiming the Volt and other electric vehicles will be the answer to CO2 emission reductions in the U.S.- think again.
The Volt is powered by electricity – where do you think the electricity is coming from? Most of the electricity in the U.S. is generated at power plants that burn coal and oil, which produce plenty of CO2 emissions. The only true clean electricity generation is from wind, solar, hydro, or nuclear. The first three are great, but there’s not much generated from those methods. Nuclear can be great too, but most Americans are too fearful of it and don’t want it in their back yards, so the U.S. lags most of the world in nuclear power plants (contrast this with France which is almost entirely nuclear powered).
So burning more coal and oil in power plants to generate electricity to power electric cars is running to stand still in terms of CO2 emissions. Maybe even running backwards as I doubt these power plants burn cleaner than modern gas or diesel powered car engines with the latest emissions technology on the road today.
02/13, 9:44 AM
posted by:
maximus
I took a stand about 3 years ago. I am FOR global warming! I live in Chicago, who cares!? come on global warming! I even bought a bathing suit for the coming tropical climates! I’ve gone to Puerto Rico a couple times, and I gotta say…man, that weather rocks! Join my cause, “Global Warming for Humanity”! It sounds democrat enough – it has the “for humanity” part.
02/13, 9:48 AM
posted by:
meanpants555
I keep wondering if the polar ice caps do melt, will my Altanta condo become beachfront?
02/13, 9:55 AM
posted by:
golf4me
Finally, someone speaking their mind and not the PC bull**** being forced down their throats.
Global warming is TRUE…no denying that.
That it’s caused by MAN is FALSE. The Earth has warmed and cooled thousands of times. When I was in school, they warned of a coming Ice Age because we had a few cold winters…same thing here except you have a pinhead named Gore that typical American sheep follow…it’s too bad. We are going to spend a lot of money for nothing.
02/13, 9:57 AM
posted by:
RicardoHead
Lutz is right on the money with this. Global Warming is just some pseudo-intellectual mindtrip for pansy-assed dillweeds to jack off about and delude themselves that they matter.
Honest comments like these from Lutz make me more apt to buy GM than not, for the simple reason that I appreciate honesty and trust honest people far more than politicians or scientists who have the vested interest of steering public money into their pet research projects.
02/13, 10:14 AM
posted by:
SwerveEarly
**** my computer just got the Y2K virus.
02/13, 10:25 AM
posted by:
RicardoHead
Yeah – it’s pretty toasty in the “icebox of the nation” …
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080212/ap_on_re_us/cold_weather
02/13, 10:27 AM
posted by:
jumpoffit
did anyone ever see Penn & Tellers show Bull$hit?? on showtime, they talked about global warming and all kinds of recycling nonsence that doesn’t help. You create more pollution in recycling things than just throwing them away.
Also- I haven’t heard much about the hole in the Ozone, where did that go?
02/13, 10:55 AM
posted by:
RicardoHead
The hole in the ozone got fixed by global warming. Global warming fixed the hole by replacing the delusion that the ozone had a problem with the delusion that the global climate system has a problem.
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Oh, by the way, since all the scientists’ (and Al Gore’s) claims of devasting hurricanes resulting from global warming are not happening at all, now these great scientists are saying that global warming CAUSES F_E_W_E_R HURRICANES (see link). Talk about a crock of ****.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/23/tech/main3742196.shtml?source=RSSattr=SciTech_3742196
Keep on believing it, sheep.
02/13, 10:57 AM
posted by:
Jake1
Ozone hole is still there.
02/13, 11:22 AM
posted by:
Ward Cleaver
I’d like to see a ten round bout between Lutz and Al Gore. It might last thirty seconds.
02/13, 11:28 AM
posted by:
soultek
interesting point about the ozone layer. the ozone layer was identified by scientists whom then recommended changes in refrigerator coolants, for example, to contain and control this problem
that’s what science does.
likewise, most climate and atmospheric scientists have created models that demonstrate that there is a correlation between humans, CO2 and the earth’s temperature. when these models are then compared to ice core data from the last several hundred thousand years, the correlation is even stronger, much stronger.
is the correlation causal or coincidence? most scientists believe its causal, though not all. some do think the sun is having an effect. still, for some on this forum to claim that believers of global warming are psuedoscientists proves those people have no understanding of science.
02/13, 11:40 AM
posted by:
mazdaman
Regardless of what state of denial Mr. Lutz might be in, global warming is not a myth. The polar icecaps are melting and glaciers are rapidly disappearing worldwide. No one can deny that. Now whether these occurrences are manmade are a natural phenomenon will be a topic of debate between scientific minds and the manufacturing community until we are all neck deep in salty ocean water. While I agree with his comments about diminishing our dependence on foreign oil, I do find it disturbing that he is skeptical about actual natural events that could have drastic effects on our planet.
I really had a lot of respect for Mr. Lutz until recently. His comments about global warming and his constant whining and excuses about product strategy based on upcoming CAFE regulations has undermined my confidence in his thought processes. If the cancellation of a brand appropriate, Zeta based coupe product for Pontiac while approving the importation of a brand confusing trucklet product for the division is his idea, no wonder GM has stopped taking his opinions seriously.
02/13, 11:41 AM
posted by:
CA36GTP
Haha, go Lutz! About time somebody said it!
I hate this new trend in humanity where now that we know a little bit about science, we can’t bear to think there’s something we can’t control. So we try to attribute every single little weather pattern or climate shift to ourselves.
02/13, 11:44 AM
posted by:
maximus
the weatherman can’t even predict yesterday’s snow correctly…how are they going to predict 50 years in the future?
02/13, 11:46 AM
posted by:
mazdaman
^Correction to previous post: “Now whether these occurrences are manmade OR a natural phenomenon …”
02/13, 11:50 AM
posted by:
purdue
I think it’s WOman-made. Yeah, let’s blame it all on them, while we go out to the bar. They’re the ones that popped out the little carbon feetprints.
02/13, 12:05 PM
posted by:
DeansterTJ
By the way, the icecaps are gainnig ice. That’s common knowledge for you midwestern housewives out there
02/13, 12:06 PM
posted by:
RicardoHead
BTW – about Katrina, it was nothing more than a normal cat 5 hurricane, actually. Wanna know why it seemed bad? Well, it’s simple math:
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….. Living below sea level on the coast
….. ….. PLUS
….. New Orleans city government corruption
….. ….. PLUS
….. Lousiana state government corruption
….. ….. PLUS
….. FEMA incompetence
….. ….. PLUS
….. a Population of idiots that rely on the government to wipe their asses
….. ….. EQUALS
….. Disaster when the right hurricane comes along
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Other areas got hit hard besides that ****hole called New Orleans, but unlike the New Orleans idiots who are still whining and waiting for the government to fix their problems, the rest of the areas took it upon themselves to clean up their mess and rebuild their areas. Katrina itself was not a disaster, it simply revealed the disaster that New Orleans already was, while flushing out the municipal sewer of the lowest forms of ****, which causes the lefties no end of heartache.
02/13, 1:00 PM
posted by:
Jazz
It is amazing what a Lutz statement will do to this site. He can say I gotta go tinkle and then the responses are already at 50.
Oh yeah – his opinion is useless. It only matters
insomuch as he is able to steer a GM into ill conceived ventures.
02/13, 1:17 PM
posted by:
Ray Sinclair
I happen to believe that scientists know a lot less than they think they know. I love watching shows where they say this particular dinosaur lived 274 million years ago, like it’s a sure thing. My question is: on what scale DID they get that B.S.? Carbon dating? How would they possibly know the effects of carbon over MILLIONS of years to be able to call it accurately?
Like MAXIMUS said, weathermen can’t even predict the weather accurately over the course of a few days. I’m also with MEANPANTS looking forward to what will be my beachfront property.
You guys who BELIEVE humans are responsible for the ice caps melting are M-M-M-Morons.
02/13, 1:17 PM
posted by:
carguy70
Bob Lutz for PRESIDENT!!
02/13, 1:36 PM
posted by:
angelo
Scientist can’t accurately predict the weather tomorrow, and that’s with 365 days a year and centuries of applying their knowledge to the results. Instead, I’m supposed to believe their weather predictions for the next century AND assume that they’ve pinpointed the exact causes too. Weren’t these same people predicting global cooling too?
We’ve got land. if the seas rise, we’ll move to Indiananpolis, Louisville, Minneapolis, Vegas and Denver… life will move on.
02/13, 2:15 PM
posted by:
Scarface03
I don’t nearly have the time to read all of these posts, but since everyone’s weighing in….
There seems to be a lot of people who doubt science (right, Ray Sinclair?), which probably means they’ve never been exposed to or studied it. Honestly, analogizing daily weather variations to *climate* change over much greater time periods is a nothing argument going nowhere. I think we dismiss these comments outright.
I don’t know everything about both sides to the argument, but I’ve heard both sides. This I think to be true:
Global warming is happening. *All* scientifically conducted, peer reviewed studies agree. But as some posters have noted, the question is: is this part of the natural geological cycle of the Earth, or is it caused by man?
I can’t say that I’m in the alarmist camp, but I think we have to concede that man is a huge part of this problem. Climatic changes over the eons aren’t traced with precision to the year, or over one or two generations. Global changes happen over long periods of time. I think the spike in global warming (with significant average increases occurring yearly ) is just too quick to be a completely natural change.
I see the Earth as a beaker with lid on it. A great cosmic chem-lab science experiment. Anything you threw into that beaker you had in high school will change somehow its contents, and most of the time it causes a reaction. If you dump 70 million tons of **** into that Earth beaker every day, and geometrically increase the number of people doing the dumping within the same generation, YOU ARE GOING TO CAUSE A REACTION. Maybe you’ll make a natural reaction worse… hasten it a bit. Maybe you have the power to change the course of something that shouldn’t have happened.
But, the Earth beaker’s got a lid on it, and very little of our **** is going anywhere but staying put. We know what the industrial age has done to the Earth’s resources and we can chart what humans have put into the atmosphere that phytoplankton otherwise wouldn’t have. I just can’t fathom how anyone can say that what we do DOESN’T matter…..
How ’bout Lutz the Putz? Maybe he insensitively was trying to say that replacing the world’s cars with Priuses isn’t the answer. I agree *that* would be a crock of ****. But I do think there’s a problem, but there are other more significant causes that the car you drive.
02/13, 2:54 PM
posted by:
cookie4me
Get Educated. Guess what follows a period of global warming? That’s right, Global cooling! Affliction you idiot, global warming doesn’t cause global cooling or an ice age. It is all directly tied to the sun’s activity. The sun is active, we have warming. The sun is inactive, we have cooling. The fact that most ppl attribute to global warming to CO2 emissions shows just how bad our government education system is! They listen to politicians instead of scientists that are not tied to the UN.
02/13, 3:49 PM
posted by:
Buivrolet
I laugh at the ignorance of those who think that CO2 emissions have more than a hair of an effect on global warming…
Here’s a REAL fact for you:
We can thank our relatively stable climate (0.5* change over the last 50 years, O SHI-!) for the past 6000 years to the overly feared greenhouse gases. When’s the last time we had a major ice age? Not since the dawn of civilization, when deforestation emitted greenhouse gases into the atmosphere and stabilized our climate. The global average temperature used to change several degrees PER YEAR and now people are getting all ****faced about a half a degree change over half a decade…
Get over it. The earth goes through cycles. I’m so sick of the media hype with C02 emissions and the people that buy into it.
02/13, 3:59 PM
posted by:
400horseSS
Hey dumbasses the $38 billion is a tax credit not actually money lost you retards. Go Lutz
02/13, 4:00 PM
posted by:
400horseSS
Deanster Tugjob gives anal tongue darts, believe me i know
02/13, 4:24 PM
posted by:
jayjc08
meekin111- You would go against your own opinion for general acceptance?
Buivrolet- I’m not fully sure where your getting all those statistics, and I’m no real believer in global warming, but you really need to go look up some of that crock of **** up.
dmbpearl- Keep away from stereotypes. Not all, or even most of the religious community thinks like that, I can tell you that. I sure don’t, but you know, I’m a real skeptic of global warming. The biggest reason however, that I refuse to support the theory is not the science, but because of the fact people are trying to capitalize on it, and governments are closing in on it. To me, when that happens, it’s a form of control. That might be a little bit more in tune with most of the religious community, but facts have contradicted global warming as well. But regardless, it would be wise of you not to judge most by their religion; it’s such a loose term now.
muderedout- I refuse to believe your an adult.
Ray Sinclair- It’s called half lives buddy. Carbon dioxide and a few other elements have half lives, each half life of each element being different.
But, to reply somewhat to what scarface03 had said in reply to your comment, none of these dating processes are totally accurate, and I’ve seen many cases where dates were totally off the full proof “dating”.
And also, scarface, similar major warming occurred in the 1700’s, again not long after the first millennium, and a few other smaller warming events.
02/13, 4:30 PM
posted by:
jayjc08
Oh yeah… here’s a pretty good, unbiased article I found, pretty neat about the Antarctic Ice Sheet.
worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2006/10/11/antarctic-ice-sheet-and-the-plot-thickens/
(add the www. obviously)
02/13, 4:43 PM
posted by:
RicardoHead
Damn, 100 posts about a non-issue!
02/13, 4:48 PM
posted by:
Buivrolet
jayjc08 – It was a global mean temperature chart using oxygen contents of rock and ice from a geology textbook a long while back. I gathered this from reading, studying, and experimenting on the subject for a long time. It’s not a crock of ****.
What people fail to realize is that while global warming gases do keep heat in, they also keep heat out. Insulators work both ways, you know. Therefore contributing to our stable climate. If you want to see it for yourself, google a historical temperature trend that doesn’t focus on the media hyped last century. I’m at work and don’t feel like doing it myself.
02/13, 5:47 PM
posted by:
RicardoHead
Maybe if we carve another hole in the ozone, some of the heat in the atmosphere will escape into space and solve the problem scientifically.
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Of course then we’ll have a Spacial Warming problem to deal with.
02/13, 5:58 PM
posted by:
dmbpearl
@jayjc08: I wasn’t saying that religious people buy into the global warmism total bull****, I was saying the people that buy into the scam do so as if it were a religion. But then again, civilizations over the past several thousand years have thought they could affect the climate by means of using human sacrifice, so why should the world be any different today. Same old ****, it just looks a little “cleaner” or “more sane” with CAFE standards as opposed to native Americans or Egyptians sacrificing virgins on top of a pyramid to appease the rain gods after a bad food crop.
Either way, it’s just a bunch of losers of the world trying to control the winners of the world, just like they did back then on those pyramids. Like I said, welcome to the Church of What’s Happening Now.
02/13, 6:15 PM
posted by:
jayjc08
Buivrolet- I meant more or less the statement on deforestation after the ice age caused a stabilization of global warming. Because according to my textbooks, that came quite a few more thousands years later than the ice age.
dmbpearl- That clarifies things. I had a science teacher who stereotyped like that about the religious community and global warming.
02/13, 6:43 PM
posted by:
Buivrolet
jayj08 – That’s exactly what I said. After the start of deforestation and agriculture things such as major ice ages haven’t happened.
02/13, 7:22 PM
posted by:
kgm777
If CO2 is increasing, there will be global warming. The big question: Is atmospheric CO2 on the rise, and if so, how much and how long? Luckily, I don’t think we’ll ever be on par with the atmosphere of planet Venus.
In the meantime, I like my ‘07 Cadillac DTS and will not be trading it for a “Smart?” Car anytime soon. Unless Cadillac does something stupid like shrink the current cars as they did in 1977 and 1985, there’s always Lincoln.
02/13, 7:31 PM
posted by:
kgm777
In any case, why should the U.S. take the responsibility for all the **** happening in the world when the third worlders pump most of the crap into the atmosphere with impunity. This is a world problem, not an “US” problem. It’s NOT rocket science.
02/13, 7:49 PM
posted by:
Ray Sinclair
jayjc08,
AS I SAID, on what basis can anybody create a scale dealing with MILLIONS of years with any accuracy at all? MILLIONS? ON WHAT BASIS??? How can there be such a scale when the truth is WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW SOMETHING WILL REACT OVER MILLIONS OF YEARS? When I hear about a dinosaur living 65 million years ago, I simply laugh. For all we know, they could have been living 100,000 years ago-Maybe their bones aren’t around anymore because they were ground into powder and snorted by some early primate ancestor of Keith Richards.
02/13, 8:23 PM
posted by:
400horseSS
Global Warming is “a bunch of ****” and im not even running for an office.
02/13, 8:53 PM
posted by:
RicardoHead
Ray Sinclair fails to realize that Keith Richards himself is at least 200,000 years old.
02/13, 11:55 PM
posted by:
AxeHead
114th post bitches.
02/14, 10:14 AM
posted by:
RicardoHead
I’m fukkin having a visual now of Al Gore fukkin Tipper’s skanky hole and all the stinky methane they are releasing in the process. I think if Al truly is commited to a carbon-neutral life he’d volunteer to let us kill his ass and toss him in a compost bin.
02/14, 3:48 PM
posted by:
Buivrolet
Would you please stop posting.
02/14, 3:56 PM
posted by:
Buivrolet
Very juvenile. It’s hard to take anything you say seriously when you insult and type with the intellect of a twelve year old.
02/14, 4:09 PM
posted by:
Ray Sinclair
Question: If Global Warming is real, and we and our “Scientists” have been accurately charting temperatures and the weather for well over 100 years, then WHY was there hardly a mention of it during the Clinton Administration-just 10 little years ago-when Gore was in office?
This is pure propaganda. Need a motive? One more thing to pin on the Republican in office-Bush is responsible for the destruction of our planet. My only regret about this whole debate is that Bush caved to these nuts out there and signed the CAFE regulation standards. Better buy your Corvettes soon, boys and girls.
02/14, 9:14 PM
posted by:
tripleonefive
the company that this jerk runs is a Total crock of ****
The New Malibu is a total crock of **** lol
02/15, 6:44 AM
posted by:
dodgezilla
Ok then when all you believers get through paying oh $4500 dollars a year more just to live and then when you break your light bulb of mercury and pay another $2000-3000 to have the EPA clean your mess up I know you will think it is for the good of humanity right.As Mr Gore thought correctly when he started his cap & trade scheme business well before any body else could get a picture of the actual science behind the weather change or fuel usage I applaud him,early bird gets the worm and we as always will get the shaft.I planted 140 trees to replace as many as I could and will be there to do it again,But I want a $700.000 grant to insure the future of my endeaver
02/16, 10:05 AM
posted by:
Captain Spadaro
I think Bob Lutz is a pretty cool guy. eh speaks his mind and doesn’t afraid of anything.
02/18, 5:54 PM
posted by:
KnightRider
Global Warming is DEFINITELY a crock of ****. You panty waist bitches can believe whatever you want though. Drive your little prius’ and camry’s. Vote for who you are told to vote for, do what you are told by liberals. Have no free will, have no control over your own little lives. Let the democrats run your lives.
02/19, 12:39 PM
posted by:
lucklaster
Thank you Bob – for being so honest about the biggest hoax in all of our lives.
You are The Man.
02/19, 9:36 PM
posted by:
murderedout
KnightRider=CHICKEN HAWK!