Comments on: Mazda mulling diesels for U.S. http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:18:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494522 johnnycanuck Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:14:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494522 leftwing... I get it! "Smiley" diesels instead of 'smelly' diesels! Ah ha! Ees funny cuz eets play on wurd! leftwing… I get it! “Smiley” diesels instead of ‘smelly’ diesels! Ah ha! Ees funny cuz eets play on wurd!

]]> By: rmatt8748 http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494342 rmatt8748 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:50:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494342 Don't call them oil burners to begin with, that harkens back the days of smoke... exactly what people don't need to think about. There is creative journalism and smart journalism. Cheap hybrid technology is still behind diesels, kill the old images. Don’t call them oil burners to begin with, that harkens back the days of smoke… exactly what people don’t need to think about.

There is creative journalism and smart journalism.

Cheap hybrid technology is still behind diesels, kill the old images.

]]> By: Szabla http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494330 Szabla Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:28:10 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494330 They already make them. They just need to send them to us. They already make them.

They just need to send them to us.

]]> By: leftwingagenda http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494292 leftwingagenda Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:53:01 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494292 armstealer is on target...the thing you guys fail to realize is that mazda knows how much it will cost them to do this, and if they don't make their sales target it will be a financial disaster...it's easy for you to say "do it, do it, do it", you don't face the ramifications if they don't make their sales target because nobody likes smiley diesels... armstealer is on target…the thing you guys fail to realize is that mazda knows how much it will cost them to do this, and if they don’t make their sales target it will be a financial disaster…it’s easy for you to say “do it, do it, do it”, you don’t face the ramifications if they don’t make their sales target because nobody likes smiley diesels…

]]> By: ricky_b http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494290 ricky_b Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:43:38 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494290 The Germans in particular have taken diesel to a place where they can balance economy and fun factor. Heck, even Ford and GM (Opel) in Europe have competitive diesels. I would gladly trade a gas engine for one of the Euro designed diesel powerplants. And you see what VW is looking to do? When the new Jetta wagon came out, it was a hot seller. Then the TSI came out and sold even better. Now they're considering dumping the gas Jetta wagons in US and only selling TDI Jetta wagons. That says a lot toward their success. The Germans in particular have taken diesel to a place where they can balance economy and fun factor. Heck, even Ford and GM (Opel) in Europe have competitive diesels. I would gladly trade a gas engine for one of the Euro designed diesel powerplants.

And you see what VW is looking to do? When the new Jetta wagon came out, it was a hot seller. Then the TSI came out and sold even better. Now they’re considering dumping the gas Jetta wagons in US and only selling TDI Jetta wagons. That says a lot toward their success.

]]> By: armstealer http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494284 armstealer Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:29:05 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494284 I want it too, but here is the "one minute of research" business case against it: Mazda sells about the same amount of cars in U.S. as VW (200-250000). Tdi's make up about 30% of Jetta sales, and about 12% of total VW U.S. Sales (ROUGH numbers). VW has been selling diesels in U.S. for three decades to reach 40,000 diesel sales. I want it too, but here is the “one minute of research” business case against it:

Mazda sells about the same amount of cars in U.S. as VW (200-250000).

Tdi’s make up about 30% of Jetta sales, and about 12% of total VW U.S. Sales (ROUGH numbers).

VW has been selling diesels in U.S. for three decades to reach 40,000 diesel sales.

]]> By: American_Cars_Crap http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494278 American_Cars_Crap Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:39:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494278 Domestic auto makers are so stupid, they failed to realise the importance of developing diesel powertrains for small and midsized cars. The European and Japanese automakers are light years ahead of the not so big 3 in diesel technology. The only diesels you will find on domestic cars is in their big trucks. Diesel is going to be the next big thing and popularity is growing, but detroit was too stupid investing money in big pointless SUV's with very limited off road capabilites while Japan and Europe have invested heavily in an area where the future is. Domestic auto makers are so stupid, they failed to realise the importance of developing diesel powertrains for small and midsized cars. The European and Japanese automakers are light years ahead of the not so big 3 in diesel technology. The only diesels you will find on domestic cars is in their big trucks. Diesel is going to be the next big thing and popularity is growing, but detroit was too stupid investing money in big pointless SUV’s with very limited off road capabilites while Japan and Europe have invested heavily in an area where the future is.

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494272 A4 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:00:31 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494272 gehrhardt, one of the reasons, while only a small reason, that the TDI's cost so much more than the gasoline counterparts is thanks to VW packing them with a decent amount of standard features. Not that this should be frowned upon, but VW ought to make trim levels for the TDI, including a value-based package which has the same features as the $17,600 base model and only charge the difference for the engine. gehrhardt, one of the reasons, while only a small reason, that the TDI’s cost so much more than the gasoline counterparts is thanks to VW packing them with a decent amount of standard features. Not that this should be frowned upon, but VW ought to make trim levels for the TDI, including a value-based package which has the same features as the $17,600 base model and only charge the difference for the engine.

]]> By: jdasch1 http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494266 jdasch1 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:25:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494266 Hydrogen turbocharged rotary....hope it doesn't have any hippups...boom. My dad had a Ford Ranger pickup that had a 4 cylinder Mazda diesel in it and he got over 30 MPG..My brother still drives it occationally...still going strong with 399k miles on it.....that was a 1983 model... Whats to mull over??? Hydrogen turbocharged rotary….hope it doesn’t have any hippups…boom. My dad had a Ford Ranger pickup that had a 4 cylinder Mazda diesel in it and he got over 30 MPG..My brother still drives it occationally…still going strong with 399k miles on it…..that was a 1983 model… Whats to mull over???

]]> By: Sgt Beavis http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494263 Sgt Beavis Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:01:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494263 Don't think about it, DO IT!! Don’t think about it, DO IT!!

]]> By: gehrhardt http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494262 gehrhardt Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:50:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494262 I think it's a great idea. In this corner of Canada, diesel is around the same price as gas and sometimes cheaper. Every gas station I can think of has diesel too. The only downside is the higher price of the VW TDI models over their gas siblings. If Mazda does this, hopefully the extra competition will bring the price of the option down (eventually). I think it’s a great idea. In this corner of Canada, diesel is around the same price as gas and sometimes cheaper. Every gas station I can think of has diesel too.

The only downside is the higher price of the VW TDI models over their gas siblings. If Mazda does this, hopefully the extra competition will bring the price of the option down (eventually).

]]> By: Hyperion http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494255 Hyperion Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:45:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494255 Agreed, sprockkets. I'd love to see a hydrogen rotary happen in mass-production with at least 280HP from their new design. Hydrogen turbocharged rotary, anyone? Agreed, sprockkets. I’d love to see a hydrogen rotary happen in mass-production with at least 280HP from their new design. Hydrogen turbocharged rotary, anyone?

]]> By: bghewy http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494243 bghewy Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:16:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494243 We have the Mazda 3 and 6 in diesel here in Australia and they are getting just as a good a review as the petrol stable mates. Top quality product and reasonable pricing, hence they are number 4 here in Australia. We have the Mazda 3 and 6 in diesel here in Australia and they are getting just as a good a review as the petrol stable mates.

Top quality product and reasonable pricing, hence they are number 4 here in Australia.

]]> By: sprockkets http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494236 sprockkets Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:06:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494236 more like the 16x rotary AND have it run on hydrogen, Fuck diesel more like the 16x rotary AND have it run on hydrogen, Fuck diesel

]]> By: cire_1wb http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494220 cire_1wb Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:32:51 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494220 I wouldn't mind a Mazda3 sedan with a diesel engine, but they would have to fix the bizarre front end styling first. I wouldn’t mind a Mazda3 sedan with a diesel engine, but they would have to fix the bizarre front end styling first.

]]> By: gogogodzilla http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494189 gogogodzilla Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:13:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494189 Well, if Mazda actually does bring it's diesels out here in the states and makes it an option in the Mazda3 hatchback... I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Well, if Mazda actually does bring it’s diesels out here in the states and makes it an option in the Mazda3 hatchback… I’d buy one in a heartbeat.

]]> By: Hyperion http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494187 Hyperion Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:10:05 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494187 >>POSTED BY: 2WheeledSpeed Yes! Bring us diesels AND the 16X rotary!<< Fixed. >>POSTED BY:
2WheeledSpeed
Yes! Bring us diesels AND the 16X rotary!<<

Fixed.

]]> By: Bosley http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494177 Bosley Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:24:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494177 Yeah, i meant BUY not BUT........ Yeah, i meant BUY not BUT……..

]]> By: Bosley http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494176 Bosley Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:23:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494176 Johnny, what if Mazda puts out a rotary-diesel? GM would but it in a heartbeat for its high maintenance needs in a second! Johnny, what if Mazda puts out a rotary-diesel? GM would but it in a heartbeat for its high maintenance needs in a second!

]]> By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494167 johnnycanuck Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:15:42 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494167 I don't see what all the fuss is about. Mazda already has one oil burner... it's called the rotary. I don’t see what all the fuss is about. Mazda already has one oil burner… it’s called the rotary.

]]> By: sprockkets http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494144 sprockkets Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:10:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494144 Well let's see, they still literally stink, require more maintenance in that all of them have turbos, and even though they get more mileage, the price of diesel is proportionally higher, negating any benefits, at least here in FL. Well let’s see, they still literally stink, require more maintenance in that all of them have turbos, and even though they get more mileage, the price of diesel is proportionally higher, negating any benefits, at least here in FL.

]]> By: Bosley http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494143 Bosley Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:03:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494143 VW re-introduced their diesel (a year or so ago, i think), after taking them off the market in North America for a few years. Unless Mazda puts together a massive ad campaign most consumers will still hold the negative stereotypes they think are true with respect diesels. The 2 things stopping anyone from buying a diesel option is the American public with these antiquated attitudes and their relatively cheap gas prices compared to Europe where diesels are necessary if you want to drive on a budget. I'll believe it when a Mazda 3 has an engine to compete with Volkswagons. VW re-introduced their diesel (a year or so ago, i think), after taking them off the market in North America for a few years.

Unless Mazda puts together a massive ad campaign most consumers will still hold the negative stereotypes they think are true with respect diesels.

The 2 things stopping anyone from buying a diesel option is the American public with these antiquated attitudes and their relatively cheap gas prices compared to Europe where diesels are necessary if you want to drive on a budget.

I’ll believe it when a Mazda 3 has an engine to compete with Volkswagons.

]]> By: Insensitive http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494141 Insensitive Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:57:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494141 Bring it! Bring it!

]]> By: save saab http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494135 save saab Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:42:34 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494135 Are u kidding me? VW has diesels on sale in the us for a while now, the Jetta, Golf, maybe the Passat/cc in a few years, I think the Touareg has an available diesel engine, Audi has a few, BMW has a few and same with Merc. MAKE THOSE OIL-BURNERS AVAILABLE NOW! Com'on Mazda! Ur the best Japanese automaker right now (and Subaru and Suzuki) would it make sense to drop a diesel engine in a 3? Think about the F/E it'll get! Are u kidding me? VW has diesels on sale in the us for a while now, the Jetta, Golf, maybe the Passat/cc in a few years, I think the Touareg has an available diesel engine, Audi has a few, BMW has a few and same with Merc. MAKE THOSE OIL-BURNERS AVAILABLE NOW! Com’on Mazda! Ur the best Japanese automaker right now (and Subaru and Suzuki) would it make sense to drop a diesel engine in a 3? Think about the F/E it’ll get!

]]> By: Stix http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494134 Stix Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:28:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494134 Jesus Christ, this should be a no brainer to Mazda already. If the Germans can successfully sell diesels right now in the U.S., what's going to stop Mazda from doing so? Hell, we might actually get some real competition here in the U.S. diesel market if Mazda plays their cards right. Don't mull. Just do it. Jesus Christ, this should be a no brainer to Mazda already. If the Germans can successfully sell diesels right now in the U.S., what’s going to stop Mazda from doing so? Hell, we might actually get some real competition here in the U.S. diesel market if Mazda plays their cards right.

Don’t mull. Just do it.

]]> By: NRG http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494128 NRG Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:14:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494128 Just do it already. What more proof does Mazda need that it sells? Look at VW. This isn't rocket science Mazda. Just do it already. What more proof does Mazda need that it sells? Look at VW. This isn’t rocket science Mazda.

]]> By: DenverGuy217 http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494119 DenverGuy217 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:03:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494119 Ik 10,000 volume really that difficult to achieve to warrant a prolonged discussion? veddy interesting indeed Ik 10,000 volume really that difficult to achieve to warrant a prolonged discussion?

veddy interesting indeed

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494118 A4 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:02:30 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494118 MAKE UP YOUR MIND They already have said this twice, and then canned the plans. MAKE UP YOUR MIND
They already have said this twice, and then canned the plans.

]]> By: atoms http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494114 atoms Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:55:05 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494114 the 3 is popular, so are VW TDI's, come on mazda this is simple math here!!! the 3 is popular, so are VW TDI’s, come on mazda this is simple math here!!!

]]> By: The Stig http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494111 The Stig Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:47:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494111 Stop mulling and start acting. Stop mulling and start acting.

]]> By: cocojoe53 http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494110 cocojoe53 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:47:01 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494110 I really don't understand why others have not noticed the success that VW is having with their TDI and followed I really don’t understand why others have not noticed the success that VW is having with their TDI and followed

]]> By: beatusmongous http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494109 beatusmongous Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:46:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494109 Yes! Yes!

]]> By: dirtfarmer http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494107 dirtfarmer Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:45:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494107 why is there any question? why is there any question?

]]> By: 2WheeledSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-mulling-diesels-for-u-s.html#comment-494099 2WheeledSpeed Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:41:06 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=21964#comment-494099 Yes! Bring us diesels and kill the rotary! Yes! Bring us diesels and kill the rotary!

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