What is up with this new fascination for city car death traps?

How about making this thing manlier, less soap bar-like, with more power … something I’ve been hoping for since it first came out? Anything below this is a waste of time and money.

why dont they just take the blueprint for the original miata and facelift it

That’d be cool if it it was a sub. I love looking at the little fishies.

What’s this? The once diminutive Miata has become fat in its old age… simply amazing.

I fail to understand the logic in this automotive trend that has really come to a head within the past 10 years.

Make it bigger! Crap… it’s too big. Quick! Make something smaller to fill the gap that the original car previously occupied.

Many automakers have this mastered perfectly. BMW X5… X3… X1! 3-series… 1-series! Honda Civic… Fit! Ford Taurus… Fusion!

What a wonderful thing that we have had to create a whole new class of “sub-compact” cars because the cars that started as “compact” are now “mid-size”. A 2010 Civic Sedan is the size of a 2000 Accord. It’s insanity!

Women already drive Miatas so what will a smaller model really accomplish? Attracting little girls instead? What a joke.

GM. An American Revolution

With the Saturn Sky and Pontiac Solstice being axed, Mazda has an opportunity to re-capture the roadster market. They really can’t miss out on this opportunity to re-create the MX-5 into something than can be seen as more than just a “chick-car.” The MX-2 can assume that old role, but a new MX-5 needs to be beefier and more appealing to a male audience.

The Solstice and the Sky are pinnacles of excellence in the roadster market so don’t be surprised if sales of roadsters drop off steeply when the Kappa has ended its run.

GM. An American Revolution

What can be possibly smaller than the MX-5? That thing is really small. If your taller than 5′7, your screwed. now imagine being in something smaller where you have to be smaller than 5′0. I guess this will be the sports car for midgets.

And F.Y.I. NMOFGM, the solstice is under new ownership of Mr. Penske. Although its still built off the GM platform, its no longer a GM product.

The Solstice was ugly, the Sky was nice-looking but came with all the stigma of being a Saturn, also lets not mention the bargain basement plastics used on the interior of both, and now with both brands (Pontiac and Saturn) defunct, the roadster market essentially is down to the MX-5 and S2000 (also soon to be defunct, also very $$$)…..there you go mates. In other words, perfect time for Mazda to diversify its roadster portfolio and recapture the market.

I own a Solstice GXP and unless GM gets its s@## together its replacement will be Japanese. I agree with Raine man who the hell asked for these bigger cars. Every small car when restyled becomes bigger. Makes no sense .

Why not give us a club racer version of the Miata without all the fat they’ve added over the years? Why a whole new model?

OH wait Nissan 370 Z– lighter faster smaller. Maybe someone is listening.

the solstice/sky will be ancient history in a few months so why even compare a miata to solstice/sky?

because he’s an idiot

i’d be interested in seeing drawings of what a small Furai-based mx-2 would look like…could be interesting, or a bit awkward after making all the necessary changes to become road legal…or that Furai talk was all marketing nonsense…

I really hope Penske keeps the Sky alive. Those are wonderful cars… powerful too… great competition for MX-5, Z4, and S2K.

It’s damn near impossible to find a RWD performance-oriented car with a 4-banger these days… even harder if you want something with a fixed roof.

Again, the Solstice and Sky are pinnalces of perfection in the segment. They have outstanding quality, relibility, dependibility and respect amongst their class. In fact, they are a class of 1 as the competiton from cars like the Boxster, Z4, Nissan Z and S2000 are just cheap imitatiion piles of crap.

Try comprehending instead of glancing.

GM. AN American Revolution

NMOFGM

^ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Hmmmmmmm…

Lightweight, RWD, cheap, economical, fun to drive, available hardtop, good autocross’er…

How about a 2000-05 Toyota MR2 Spyder? spyderchat.com would be a good source for some.

I’m getting the odd feeling that this new MX-2 will look something like a Daihatsu Copen, if it plans to be smaller than the Miata. And if it ever does look something like THAT, heads will be rolling.

BTW, I’m talking about something like THIS: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Daihatsu.copen.arp.750pix.jpg

Cars never get smaller people, they grow models each redesign, its been happening a lot longer than the past decade.
NeedMore- Want to buy my SOL?

I agree the need to make a new model to make a small Miata is just rediculous. Make the current miata smaller.

As for the Solstice-Sky. It has potential, but in its current form its is all show. The redline has power, but the suspension is way too soft for any sporting intensions.

When are we getting that NMOFGM is just kidding? Seriously LLN readers let’s all get over him, or it w/e.

FACTS (all stats are top of the line models except for base price)

HP

boxter
310

z4
300

370z
332

s2000
237

solstice
260

0-60

boxter
5.0

Z4
5.0

370z
4.7

s2000
5.5

solstice
5.5

base price

boxter
46,600

z4
45,750

370z
29,930

s2000
34,995

solstice
24,945

it looks like the 370z is the winner in everything but the price

Mazda already had a smaller MX5 before they made it bigger. Now all of a sudden they decide they need that smaller car again. Backwards thinking.

@Need More Koolaid for GM: Are you for real or what? What are you smoking? LMAO.

Women drive Miatas?
Attracting little girls – what a joke?

Ever been to an autocross? Not many girls there, Not many cars beat the Miatas

All show?? GXP has 290 hp 330 tq with a stage 2 upgrade kit from GM. I surprised quite a few Mustang GT’s who probably wondered what the hell just happened.

Why would anyone want to make a smaller car than a Miata? Duh, how about a Lotus Elise @ 1950lbs, Miata could lose some weight @ 2500lbs. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it but it will destory any small roadster GM can crap out.

Cant really compare the Elise to Miata or cars in its class. Its not a roadster and its priced way above.

^If people are going to complain about the interior on a Solstice then they better start complaining about it on the Elise too.