Comments on: Mazda to quit incentives game? -updated http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:56:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Kaptain75329 http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-234238 Kaptain75329 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:57:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-234238 ^^^ A true sports car is required to be bad in the snow? I thought you read auto news to keep up with *current* trends.. there are these new-fangled gadgets called "traction control systems" that vastly improve snow performance on RWD vehicles. Then again, bad is a subjective term, so no matter how good it is, you could be one of those hard-to-please people. If so we have that in common. :) ^^^ A true sports car is required to be bad in the snow? I thought you read auto news to keep up with *current* trends.. there are these new-fangled gadgets called “traction control systems” that vastly improve snow performance on RWD vehicles. Then again, bad is a subjective term, so no matter how good it is, you could be one of those hard-to-please people. If so we have that in common. :)

]]> By: Renton http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-234130 Renton Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:50:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-234130 Wanknonymous--- "Miata is a sports car, the BMW 3 series is a sports car, the GTi is a sports car, the Range Rover Sport is a Sports car" Ummmmmm, no. Miata is a sports car. BMW 3 series is a sports sedan (even the 2 door), GTI is a sporty hatchback, RR Sport is an SUV that happens to be fast. Sports car requirements : 1. two seats (possible 2+2) 2. RWD based 3. handling/accelleration biased over ride/ practicality 4. emphsis on lightness and nimbleness 4. bad in snow 5. poor utility 6. fun I think that pretty much nails it, e.g. Not even all Ferraris are sports cars, some are GTs. Wanknonymous—

“Miata is a sports car, the BMW 3 series is a sports car, the GTi is a sports car, the Range Rover Sport is a Sports car”

Ummmmmm, no.

Miata is a sports car. BMW 3 series is a sports sedan (even the 2 door), GTI is a sporty hatchback, RR Sport is an SUV that happens to be fast.

Sports car requirements :

1. two seats (possible 2+2)
2. RWD based
3. handling/accelleration biased over ride/ practicality
4. emphsis on lightness and nimbleness
4. bad in snow
5. poor utility
6. fun

I think that pretty much nails it, e.g. Not even all Ferraris are sports cars, some are GTs.

]]> By: 63 Aston http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-233089 63 Aston Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:12:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-233089 I agree with anonymous. I just remember when a "sports car" was something along the lines of a Corvette, E-Type Jag, Cobra, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Porsche. These were cars that one aspired to own, something that was a high-end all out performance car. Now the advertisers call anything thet even remotely looks sporty a sports car. Do people really believe the advertisers and media? These are just sales gimmicks. Come on, when an SUV, a pickup or an "econo box" is truely considered a sports car, that is the day when people have just plain given up their ambitions and have become media tools. I agree with anonymous. I just remember when a “sports car” was something along the lines of a Corvette, E-Type Jag, Cobra, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Porsche. These were cars that one aspired to own, something that was a high-end all out performance car. Now the advertisers call anything thet even remotely looks sporty a sports car. Do people really believe the advertisers and media? These are just sales gimmicks. Come on, when an SUV, a pickup or an “econo box” is truely considered a sports car, that is the day when people have just plain given up their ambitions and have become media tools.

]]> By: British_rover http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-232968 British_rover Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:23:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-232968 As far as I am concerned Mazda does a very good job of injecting some sportiness into all of their cars. Every mazda I have ever driven was pretty sporty driving and they all look good. Even that Mazda 5 looks great. As far as I am concerned Mazda does a very good job of injecting some sportiness into all of their cars. Every mazda I have ever driven was pretty sporty driving and they all look good. Even that Mazda 5 looks great.

]]> By: Dave M. http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-232868 Dave M. Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:46:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-232868 The 6 wagon is an ideal SUV replacment if you don't have heavy towing to do. According to CarsDirect, there's about $5k in total incentives available on that car. That's a steal IMO...... Oh, and anonymous, pretty much anything can be the 'sports car' of their genre...... The 6 wagon is an ideal SUV replacment if you don’t have heavy towing to do. According to CarsDirect, there’s about $5k in total incentives available on that car. That’s a steal IMO……

Oh, and anonymous, pretty much anything can be the ’sports car’ of their genre……

]]> By: 1952 MG TD http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-232476 1952 MG TD Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:40:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-232476 I don't worship the caliber, I just love to point out when people are talking 100% out of their asses. Ignorance on a grand scale makes my head hurt. I don’t worship the caliber, I just love to point out when people are talking 100% out of their asses.

Ignorance on a grand scale makes my head hurt.

]]> By: Bobzooki http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-232451 Bobzooki Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:34:43 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-232451 1952 MG TD you are just too easy to wind up, that was such an obvious dig at Caliber lovers that every one else ignored it. Baby the Caliber is shit, and is being bought by morons, you should know that! There was no need to be so rude to Farkinal, it makes you look like you think the Caliber is the best car EVER. I know you have a Stratus and like DC product but this Caliber worship is taking it a bit too far 1952 MG TD you are just too easy to wind up, that was such an obvious dig at Caliber lovers that every one else ignored it.
Baby the Caliber is ****, and is being bought by morons, you should know that! There was no need to be so rude to Farkinal, it makes you look like you think the Caliber is the best car EVER. I know you have a Stratus and like DC product but this Caliber worship is taking it a bit too far

]]> By: 1c3d0g http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-232409 1c3d0g Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:21:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-232409 Illegal? How so? :-/ Illegal? How so? :-/

]]> By: daveo http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-232215 daveo Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:09:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-232215 Wonder how many uninformed buyers walk away from cars and trucks when they see the sticker not knowing how much they can save off that price in inscentives? Wonder how many uninformed buyers walk away from cars and trucks when they see the sticker not knowing how much they can save off that price in inscentives?

]]> By: Farkinal http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-232144 Farkinal Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:45:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-232144 What happens if, as is the case with the Caliber, the manufacturer has to discount so much and sell the car at a loss? Isn't that illegal? What happens if, as is the case with the Caliber, the manufacturer has to discount so much and sell the car at a loss? Isn’t that illegal?

]]> By: Betty Swollocks http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-232138 Betty Swollocks Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:44:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-232138 surely a price cut is as bad as an incentive? surely a price cut is as bad as an incentive?

]]> By: British_rover http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-232058 British_rover Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:15:40 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-232058 There was some article months ago that that most european makes offer incentives equal to or greater than most domestics they just do it in the form of subvened leases instead of rebates. I mean how else could you lease a 65,000 dollar R-500 for 450 a month or a 50,000 dollar XC90 for 399 a month? BMW is bad about that too a 55,000 dollar X5 for 459 a month. There was some article months ago that that most european makes offer incentives equal to or greater than most domestics they just do it in the form of subvened leases instead of rebates. I mean how else could you lease a 65,000 dollar R-500 for 450 a month or a 50,000 dollar XC90 for 399 a month? BMW is bad about that too a 55,000 dollar X5 for 459 a month.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-232056 Anonymous Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:14:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-232056 Yaaaaa- B.S. It just goes underground. Every car/truck at my local dealer has a neon tag in the windshield with 'before/after'. j i m Yaaaaa- B.S. It just goes underground. Every car/truck at my local dealer has a neon tag in the windshield with ‘before/after’.

j i m

]]> By: The Stig http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-232042 The Stig Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:11:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-232042 A good car provides all necessary incentives to sell. A POS requires games. A good car provides all necessary incentives to sell. A POS requires games.

]]> By: Wanknonymous http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-232041 Wanknonymous Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:10:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-232041 Miata is a sports car, the BMW 3 series is a sports car, the GTi is a sports car, the Range Rover Sport is a Sports car Miata is a sports car, the BMW 3 series is a sports car, the GTi is a sports car, the Range Rover Sport is a Sports car

]]> By: anonymous http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-232026 anonymous Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:06:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-232026 I think that this is a good move. Now if we can just get them to stop advertising ALL of their vehicles as Sports-Bred. A minivan IS NOT a sports car! A truck IS NOT a sports car! An econo-box IS NOT a sports car! Only the RX-8 can be considered a sports car, given their current line-up. My daughters Protege, while a good and reliable car, is a classic example of an econo-box. It does not have the "soul of a sports car." I think that this is a good move. Now if we can just get them to stop advertising ALL of their vehicles as Sports-Bred. A minivan IS NOT a sports car! A truck IS NOT a sports car! An econo-box IS NOT a sports car! Only the RX-8 can be considered a sports car, given their current line-up. My daughters Protege, while a good and reliable car, is a classic example of an econo-box. It does not have the “soul of a sports car.”

]]> By: Jay http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-231989 Jay Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:57:39 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-231989 Good instead of using incentives they should just price the car so it will be competitive without the incentives. Oh yeah and Brandon, they can't stand giving away profits like that. Sometimes though they'll just jack up the original price and throw in incentives to make it FEEL like your getting a better deal, while you may not be. Good instead of using incentives they should just price the car so it will be competitive without the incentives.
Oh yeah and Brandon, they can’t stand giving away profits like that. Sometimes though they’ll just jack up the original price and throw in incentives to make it FEEL like your getting a better deal, while you may not be.

]]> By: British_rover http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-231978 British_rover Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:55:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-231978 Cause it only costs them about 5,000 dollars to make a typical basic GM truck platform. Cause it only costs them about 5,000 dollars to make a typical basic GM truck platform.

]]> By: Brandon http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-231966 Brandon Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:50:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-231966 This is a smart move. Now, Ford, GM, and Diamler Chrysler should follow - esp. GM. I recently saw a commercial for $4500 in cash and other incentives on a GM SUV. How does GM stand to profit giving away money like that? This is a smart move. Now, Ford, GM, and Diamler Chrysler should follow – esp. GM. I recently saw a commercial for $4500 in cash and other incentives on a GM SUV. How does GM stand to profit giving away money like that?

]]> By: 1952 MG TD http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-231945 1952 MG TD Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:43:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-231945 I thought only the domestics did the incentive game... /sarc I thought only the domestics did the incentive game…

/sarc

]]> By: Tinkler http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-231911 Tinkler Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:30:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-231911 If Chrysler did that they wouldn't sell anything at all If Chrysler did that they wouldn’t sell anything at all

]]> By: British_rover http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game.html/comment-page-1#comment-231910 British_rover Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:30:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/17/mazda-to-quit-incentives-game/#comment-231910 Good for them. Now if the rest of ford could figure this out. Price the cars competively and if the MSRP needs to be reduced to keep the car competitive then do it. Good for them. Now if the rest of ford could figure this out. Price the cars competively and if the MSRP needs to be reduced to keep the car competitive then do it.

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