Mazda will not sell its high-performance all-wheel-drive Mazdaspeed6 in 2008 as the automaker gears up for an all-new model. Mazda has also announced that it will be discontinuing the Mazda6 wagon, a unique vehicle in the North American market, for ‘08.
Unfortunately, there is no word yet on whether the wagon or Mazdaspeed6 will return. The performance version of the 6 hasn’t seen the sales success that its little brother, the front-wheel-drive Mazdaspeed3, has seen. We aren’t quite sure why, given the ’speed6’s apparent value and sophistication.
The rest of the 6 lineup receives minor trim changes.
In other Mazda news, the new CX-9 crossover, which is based on the same CD3 platform as the 6, gets Ford’s upgraded 3.7-liter V6 powertrain to replace its 3.5. We’re afraid that Mazda might succumb to the same schedule of engine replacements as Ford: an all-new model gets an all-new engine for its second year of production. We gladly welcome the 10-hp boost to 273, but we wonder about the product planning logic.
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07/24, 11:51 AM
posted by:
musclemustang94
Why is left lane putting their opinions in their news today? I thought news was supposed to be objective, i really dont care what they think. As far as the engine Heck yes. that v6 is an animal.
07/24, 11:55 AM
posted by:
CarLord
Must be a new guy writing that. Very odd seeing those opinions in there.
07/24, 11:57 AM
posted by:
LamborghiniZ
I was thinking the exact same thing, Leftlane usually keeps is to facts only. I don’t really care if I see opinions on here, because everyone is entitled to one, I’m just surprised.
I’ve been seeing a few Mazdaspeed 6’s around lately, which is unusual since I usually NEVER see them.
07/24, 11:59 AM
posted by:
LamborghiniZ
musclemustang94: Your ID name clearly shows why you would be incapable of receiving fair criticism towards a Ford product. Try and be objective, and not so defensive.
07/24, 12:08 PM
posted by:
musclemustang94
Im not just talkin about this news story, i am talkin about a couple i have seen on here.
07/24, 12:29 PM
posted by:
RicardoHead
LLN needs to leave all the opinionating to the highly competent and articulate wankers who post here.
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Look, retards, it’s a free site. LLN can post what they want and if you don’t like it, they have a job opening. Oh wait – to hold a job you need to be at least 16 years old, so you phucktards can’t apply for a few years.
07/24, 12:43 PM
posted by:
04focus
So do they keep the Mazda6 hatch? Now, if they had the speed6 in hatch or wagon form, maybe they could have taken on the wrx.
07/24, 1:16 PM
posted by:
jJayC08
That’s the first thing I thought when I got to LLN this morning… Lately they have been putting opinions in… new writer?
So how about you apply for the job RicardoHead? Yeah they can do whatever they want with the website, but we’re here to read about the cars, not the writers opinion. I could care less, but if he wants to have his opinion in writing, then I’d like to see him make comments like the rest of us. Better for discusion I suppose…
Oh the other hand… I understand if it were to succumb to Ford changing engine after engine (which hasn’t really happened yet) but I don’t see a problem as long as the last engines better than the first and makes a better profit. Does anybody know the economy ratings?
07/24, 1:39 PM
posted by:
RicardoHead
jJay, I am fairly confident I make a bit more than a blog writer and thus prefer to post at will.
Still, I guess you lazy-ass whiners aren’t adult enough to filter out fact from opinion when you read. You are the same dummasses who are tools for the Al Gores, Pat Buchanons, and Jesse Jacksons of the world who throw their stupid spin on anything and you think it is fact because that is what you expect from them. Heaven forbid you actually think – it’s easier to complain or regurgitate.
07/24, 2:01 PM
posted by:
deutschetouring1337
Hmmm sounds like your pretty biased there.
07/24, 2:07 PM
posted by:
Fromes
its kinda funny, I havnt even seen any cx-9s on the road yet and already the vehicle as a new engine.
07/24, 2:08 PM
posted by:
jJayC08
Al Gore and Pat Buchanan personally are full of it. I know fact from fiction very well.
I’ve actually seen quite a few Mazdaspeed 6’s around. One of my friends owns a Mazda 6 wagon (not Mazdaspeed regardless), and they really loved the car as their daily driver.
And from what I’m reading, it gets roughly the same EPA milage for about $400 more… That’s taking into consideration new EPA estimates (so it’s better milage than the outgoing engine), and an optional blind spot monitoring system will be available.
07/24, 2:09 PM
posted by:
jJayC08
*And from what I’m reading, the CX-9 gets roughly the same EPA milage…
07/24, 2:20 PM
posted by:
Robert
The 3.7 is not from Ford. Not sure how many times it has to get said before people start getting it. It is derived from the Ford 3.5, but the 3.7 was developed by Mazda for Mazda because Ford wasn’t working on a standard 3.7. Ford’s 3.7 will debut on the MKS in February or so and maybe in the MKZ later in the year will be DI and much more powerful.
07/24, 4:08 PM
posted by:
jackjimturkey
The 6 Rules.
The name sucks
07/24, 4:30 PM
posted by:
Get Real
Break. I thought they meant how much it breaks down.
Resale value of a Mazda is toilet water.
Up until the 90’s Mazda was pretty good, then Ford started taking over…….oops, better stop there.
07/24, 4:53 PM
posted by:
LamborghiniZ
Yeah RicardoHead has what we like to call an inability to communicate. Indeed he is articulate, and can write a pretty sentence (or paragraph, for that matter), but when it comes to the discussion of realistic ideas, concepts, and material, well let’s just say that’s a little bit out of his league.
Ricardo, what I do agree with you on is the ability to filter out opinions from facts. I read Motor Trend, Automobile Magazine, and Road and Track monthly, and god knows there’s a ****load of opinions worked in there (mainly fake opinions based on advertising), but all that’s necessary is recognizing those opinions and taking them for exactly that, just another’s viewpoint. What I think you should try and stop doing, however, is ceaselessly stressing how much older and more mature you are than “the rest of us”, how everyone else here besides you is a pre-pubescent, pimple popping sophomore in high school, and how you on the other hand are the refined, articulate smarter generation. Calling people “phucktards” doesn’t really coincide with this pristine image of yourself that you’re painting, and indeed only serves to make YOU appear to be one of those very high schoolers that you’re incessantly insulting! Just some words of thoughtful advice, if you will. Try and not be offended.
07/24, 5:45 PM
posted by:
autonutt
Get Real.. get real. I have had 3 Mazdas built in the 1990s and 2000s and none of them have been at all unreliable. True, the resale value is horrendous, but that’s all the better for me since I bought them all pre-owned! Who in their right mind would buy anything but a new Honda or Toyota if they are that concerned about resale value anyway?
07/24, 7:23 PM
posted by:
sharpie
I have two Mazdas myself and they are reliable cars. Get Real, if you never owned a Mazda car, stop disparaging the brand as you have no clue what you are talking about.
Resale value is about average. You want resale value, buy a Toyota and get bored to death while driving. I buy my car to drive, not to resale. I will gladly sacrifice a little bit of resale value for years of fun motoring. You, on the other hand, are going to get stuck driving a boredmobile, hate it all 3 years until your lease runs out and exchange for another equally boring car. Sucks to be you!
As for the Ford ownership, platform sharing has done Mazda some good. Ford tried to force Mazda to imitate Toyota (see 1995-98 Protege, 626) and that failed miserably. Today, Ford allow platform sharing between Ford, Mazda and Volvo beyond the mere rebadging. The results are the Mazda3, C30, S40, V50, Euro Focus, Mazda6, Fusion, Milan… This is one of the few good decisions Ford has made recently.
07/24, 7:46 PM
posted by:
Htay5500
its mostly the euro fords tht are sharing the platform of current mazdas. before, the 626 had a tranny problem and the tranny wasnt by mazda themselves. you guessed it, from Ford! but really, mazda is still keeping its sporty factor among its cars. I just saw a few of the cx9s today and its not tht bad at all.
07/24, 10:31 PM
posted by:
Robert
If I’m not mistaken, Mazda’s reliability according to JD Power and several others is far below Ford proper. Ford has done good things for Mazda, including giving them talent and engineered platforms and components. Mazda is doing well partly because of Ford, not in spite of. I know most like to turn everything into Ford bashing, but Mazda’s current relationship as set up by none other than Mark Fields has allowed it to do great things both for and by itself and with Ford.
07/24, 10:58 PM
posted by:
Burmanesski
Sorry autonutt but i have already told Get Real to get real but he is just two stupid. He is the kind of a man that you would use as a blueprint to build an idiot.
07/25, 12:17 AM
posted by:
autonutt
I expect the Mazdaspeed6 to return shortly after the new 6 arrives, but I doubt it will come back with the same turbo 4 used in the Mazdaspeed3 and CX-7. Perhaps that TwinForce 3.7 might find its way underhood? I’d love to see it in the CX-9 too!
07/25, 6:43 AM
posted by:
RicardoHead
Actually, there is something about the taillights on a CX9 that looks strangely … Lincoln-esque. Don’t know why, but that style that looks so good on a CX7 looks a little fleshy and fat on a CX9. Still for an SUV/tank it is better looking than the others. Oh, did I say SUV? I mean CUV. Silly me.
Lambo, thanks for the diatribe about me. It seems you care more about me than I do about you. I guess not caring about inferiors is my perogative as a refined country squire, which I never pretended to be nor desire to be, but the fact that you stay up late at night dreaming of my refinement is telling. Ahhh, and by the way, if you consider LLN to be in your intellectual league, then uhhhhh …. “good on ya.” I’m sure your beer-swilling parents would be proud that their family has moved up the IQ-scale to where the brood can debate **** on a car blog. I tend to follow Deanster’s line about the posters at LLN being “filthy sailors in a bar” but I suppose that concept is also above your league. Maybe your great-grandbrats will ascend to it when their not being the humble servants of my refined upscale progeny. LM****inAO. Tool.
07/25, 9:48 AM
posted by:
LamborghiniZ
Classic response of yours Ricardo, truly classic. You really started off strong with your use of “diatribe”, but you lost some momentum with the whole “beer-swilling parents” thing, as that stereotype doesn’t really gel with whatever ideas of myself I have given off on this site. As a whole, you just don’t defend your position too well, using far too much imagination and bull**** (i.e. staying up late at night and dreaming, etc), and not enough reality. Try again next time, LM****inAOlikealittleteeniebopperusingretardedacronyms. TOOL.
07/25, 10:38 AM
posted by:
Deanster
HA HA !!!! ^^^^ great
07/25, 1:48 PM
posted by:
Scarface03
I’ll be bummed if the Speed6 doesn’t return. It would have made my sports-sedan short list had it been out at the time I bought my TL. I particularly was drawn to the power, manual tranny, and AWD.
I won’t miss a station wagon version of any 6, however. It doesn’t seem like mid-size wagons do all that well, especially peformance variants. The last year the 545i station wagon was on the market, BMW sold more Z8’s! I wonder how Benz did/is doing with is with its E55 AMG station wagon.
Now, with five-passenger CUVs all the rage, the mid-size station wagon might all but disappear.
07/25, 7:28 PM
posted by:
jackjimturkey
Sharpie:
I’ve owned a mazda, & that’s why I plan to buy another.
Ford, as far as I know, is not the majority owner
Robert: Don’t ever quote the biased John david power and expect to be taken seriously.
Burm that was a good insult, not sure if it appies to the man “resale value” is just some artificial concept.
R-Head
you realize you used the phrase “refined country squire” and the word “ford” is all over this page?
just food for thought
07/26, 2:57 PM
posted by:
jJayC08
Jackjimturkey… Ford Motor Company owns a controlling stake with Mazda (around 35%). Ford owns something like 46% of Mazda stock. I’m not sure how those two numbers cannot conflict, but I do know FoMoCo. owns a controlling stake.
07/26, 10:07 PM
posted by:
sharpie
I didn’t say majority, but Japanese law gives the shareholder with around 35% to control the company, so I agree with jJayC08. Ford owns controling stake in Mazda. They shared a lot of platform in the early 90s regardless (Ecort GT and Protege, Probe and MX6). The problem with the auto trans in the 626 and MX6 was a Ford sourced trans made in Batavia, Ohio, so Ford WAS to blame for this one mishap.
But that’s just a small piece in a big picture. Since Ford took over and the emblem change in the late 90s, Mazda has been improving. The current line up is exciting to look at and fun to drive. Platform sharing with Ford is not restricted to European Ford (e.g. Fusion, Milan, MKZ, Mazda6) and we really should have gotten the Euro Focus when the rest of the world did. But that’s Ford’s problem, not Mazda’s.
08/05, 12:07 PM
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