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Mitsubishi could withdraw from U.S.

06/02/2006, 9:06 AM

By admin

Mitsubishi product strategist Shinichi Kurihara said at press event in Japan last week that if the automaker’s newest vehicles don’t sell well in the United States, the automaker might not be able to stay in the country. Kurihara said the vehicles like the Outlander, Lancer, and Eclipse have to “be successful for us to stay in business in the U.S.” In recent years, Mitsubishi has seen sales and revenue fall considerably.

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06/02, 9:27 AM

posted by:

Mike

They have a great lineup and distinctive character…

That said, I will probably never be one of their customers. As much as I want to see the Evo X ripping up our streets, I do not think that Mitsu pulling out of the US is a bad business decision.

06/02, 9:54 AM

posted by:

1c3d0g

Awesome news. It’s about time some of the Eastern crap left this side of the world alone. :-)

06/02, 10:01 AM

posted by:

Omar

“Eastern crap?” I’m not sure exactly what you refer to, since both Honda and Toyota are some of the best-rated and most popular cars here in North America. And do you also happen to have something against German powerhouses like Mercedes or BMW, considering their home countries are located east of North America? Or what about Italian teenager wet dream cars like Ferrari or Lambourghini, which would also be classified as based in a country “east” of here. If you wanna talk about crap in the car world, you can look right at Ford and GM. Close-minded fool.

06/02, 10:13 AM

posted by:

Paul D.

Maybe we should return the favor and back our western crap from out of the countries not connected to the US?

06/02, 10:14 AM

posted by:

6ix

You mean like our military and political influence?

06/02, 10:18 AM

posted by:

Mike

wow, this thread turned into a train wreck pretty damned fast.

It’s like babysitting 50 kids with ADD.

06/02, 10:24 AM

posted by:

TK

Mitsubishis have been some of the worst pieces of crap on the road in recent years, unquestionably the worst cars to come from Japan. If their cars were good then they would not be in this situation. I say good riddance to bad rubbish.

06/02, 10:26 AM

posted by:

Paul

Back to topic: Mitsu design is strange, bordering on weird. The new Eclipse is underpowered, overpriced and too heavy. FWD for a “sports” car – that went out in the 80s. They don’t get it so they’re gone.

06/02, 10:43 AM

posted by:

Cartman

I agree with Paul, the eclipse was a benchmark in the early 90s and the new car is worse than the one from 10 years ago in almost every respect. What the hell do they expect? Stop building crap and get with the program. See Nissan 350z and Mazda RX8 for examples of the proper way to build a 30k sports coupe. It isn’t rocket science. They have the motor from the Evo, why can’t they use that instead of the crappy eclpise motor they developed? Drive the rear wheels. Don’t do a Pontiac G6 and take a good looking concept and distill all the style out of it. These are just basic concepts that should be excruciatingly obvious to anyone.

06/02, 11:03 AM

posted by:

Atomicbri

I heard Mitsu’s sales were up for the month of May and the new Outlander and Lancer are not even out yet….If the Lancer will look anything (in shape at least) like the COncept X then I think Mitsubishi will have a hit, have potent engines that deliver great fuel economy in the new Lancer and I would buy one (if it keeps the general silhouette of the concept)

06/02, 11:06 AM

posted by:

Luke Skywalker

Someone parked a silver ‘07 Eclipse Spyder out front the other day. All I could say was “WTF” because that car was really ugly. Seriously, these guys have been losing millions for years now and their current crop looks unable to reverse the trend. Buh-bye.

06/02, 11:18 AM

posted by:

Greg

Great! Less junk in the streets.

06/02, 11:56 AM

posted by:

David

1c3d0g: Could we please get an idea of what you conside a “real car?”

06/02, 12:00 PM

posted by:

Ryan

Mitsubishi needs a better lancer that can actually go up against a civic if they want to have any success. Yes the eclipse is a pretty good car, but they screwed up the new Galant pretty bad, and the Endeavour is a hodgepodge of ugly and uninspired design. Maybe a miracle could produce a great outlander, but mitsubishi cannot survive on what is currently available.

06/02, 12:18 PM

posted by:

anonymous

The Eclipse and Evo are both great cars, but Mitsubishi has a VERY spotty quality record, and the rest of their line up is lackluster.

06/02, 12:18 PM

posted by:

Anonymous

A “real car” is hard to define, but no Toyota, Honda, OR Mitsubishi fits the category at all.

06/02, 12:20 PM

posted by:

Mike

the Lancer vs the civic? dude, what kind of pole are you smoking!

ok, I’ll take a civic SI vs a Lancer Evo. BWAHAHAAAAAA

I must not be aware of the WRC Civics…

or the factory 300hp civics.
or the factory turbo’d civics.
or the factory AWD civics.

For the lancer to compete with the civic, they need to make it look far less agressive, drastically lower hp figures across the board, and make the car overall less capable of a platform.

Say what you want about the Eclipse (bloated, bland, whatever), the Endeavor, the outlander, the montero, etc… but to move the lancer towards the civic and away from the Imprezza is just about the dumbest thing that has ever been spoken.

06/02, 12:21 PM

posted by:

Ekim.

Mitsubishi would not be missed

06/02, 12:22 PM

posted by:

DubTwo

They should only sell the ones that are profitable. We all like the EVO, but how many of us act on it? The Eclipse was great in the 90’s, but the competition has passed them greatly now. Mitsu has their hands in alot of different businesses, I believe Automobiles is only less than 20% of the company… they will survive.

Bring back VR-4 series cars and compete performance wise, and stop relying on Chrysler for bail money. They did a modifed version of their truck, I thought it looked great myself… just can’t think of their “in-house” performance name is

06/02, 12:25 PM

posted by:

DubTwo

#18, i believe he was talking about the BASE model Lancer… it is in NO way competitive with the BASE Civic. Its as cheap as a Focus. Knowing product lines is a good thing when arguing. If he was using the Lancer EVO you’d think he’d just flat out say “EVO vs. Civic”.

06/02, 12:55 PM

posted by:

Matt

That’s the best news I’ve heard in a long time! GM, Ford, and Dodge are building the best cars and are underated, it’s time to teach these fools that the jap crap doesn’t belong in the US of A. Support our own jobs, not overseas. I get so sick and tired of hearing about job losses and people going bankrupt, but the real cause is our bad purchasing decisions. How would you feel if you worked for GM or Ford and were told you lost your job? It’s time to come to our senses and get rid of the foreign JUNK!

06/02, 1:00 PM

posted by:

Paul D.

Hey maybe while we’re at it we can eliminate the foreign oil to fuel our 4 ton SUV’s…

06/02, 1:04 PM

posted by:

Matt

Wow you’re cool I hope you lose your job Paul D. Go buy another $5 coffee at Starbucks and think you’re a big intellectual but your really just a dumb ass.

06/02, 1:27 PM

posted by:

Paul D.

Grow up Matt. Seriously kid, grow up.

06/02, 1:27 PM

posted by:

1c3d0g

David: read #17’s comment, he took the words out of my mouth.

06/02, 1:40 PM

posted by:

Paul D.

Touche’ #5! lol.

06/02, 1:40 PM

posted by:

Dre

I think mitsubishi could really do well if somebody in the chain of command would have had some good sense. Cut cost by platform sharing more. Use the lancer platform for your small cars/crossovers. Lancer, Evo, Outlander etc. and Please God tell me why they didnt build the eclipse on the lancer platform and have it available wit the 4g63 and AWD…. Use the gallant platform for that a bigger crossover, and a Jeep platform for a mid/large suv and their pickups. Its not rocket science, toyota and just about every other large car company does it and mitsubishi actually has the sporting pretentions to do it great. whore the hell out of the VR-4 marquee and the Ralliart name..c’mon guys, whatever hapened to the japanese BMW? You have a great small car, the colt….hello, rising gas prices…use it like every other car company!!!!

At the end of the day I really could give a flying pigs @ss, (cuz we get most of our cars direct from the JDM market anyway) but to me it always sucks when a company that makes good sporting cars packs up and leaves. Plus if it aint in the US, aftermarket parts are a nightmare to get a hold of……damn.

06/02, 1:42 PM

posted by:

Dre

Somebody at mitsubishi hire #25….. my points exactly

06/02, 3:23 PM

posted by:

Patrick

the galant isnt terrible, its alright, but nothing i’d feel any reason to purchase. the eclipse looks good but doesnt drive quite as well, its fat basically. the lancer sucks ass, however the evo is tight as hell, interesting because yo’ud think that an amazing car like the evo would come from at least a decent econo car platform, but it doesnt. the endeavor is reliable and very high quality, its a big plus on their vehicle list. the montero is unsafe and outdated. the raider is a rebadged dodge dakota which is underpowered (its oh so speical V8 makes less and is slower than the japanese V6’s), so thats pretty ****tty too, while the outlander is just overshadowed by better offerings. they need help. bad.

06/02, 3:43 PM

posted by:

Craig

Mistubishi has plenty of great ideas overseas. Unfortunately, they do not allow us to be aware of them in the USA. Where’s my i-Car, Mitsubishi?

This is bad news for me. I really want a Lancer Evolution. I can’t buy one now but my car is getting older and I am seriously considering making an Evo my next purchase.

Now they’re thinking of leaving the USA?

06/02, 4:26 PM

posted by:

Mitch

I think Mitsubishi america has some very nice, cohesive design language. I would want to see their designs at least, the Sportback and Concept X concepts are excellent.

Hey, how did these jingoists sneak into here lately? Leave the flag waving somewhere else, this is a place for discussion, not your racist, closed off views.

06/02, 4:28 PM

posted by:

Mitch

1c3d0g, honestly, what is that? If that’s a comeback it’s terrible. You really don’t have a clue do you? This is a forum, not 5th grade. (my apologies if you are actually in 5th grade.)

06/02, 5:30 PM

posted by:

Dave M.

Sorry to ruin the party with an actual opinion….but 10-12 years ago Mitsubishi had it going on with the 3000 and Eclipse. Their consistent parade of fugly-mobiles have killed it. Except for the EVO (and your need of a high hp AWD 30k subcompact is….how much?), there is nothing behind the curtain. The Lancer, Gallant, Endeavor and current Outlander missed the target by a mile. And yes, occasional use of an EVO aside, I would much prefer a Civic anyday of the week.

Mitsu and Isuzu are not long for this world I’m afraid (I own a 2001 Trooper, which I love…). Sad, too, for companies with such a former presence……

06/02, 5:59 PM

posted by:

Luda

Some of the ignorant comments here are hilarious!

“it’s time to teach these fools that the jap crap doesn’t belong in the US of A. Support our own jobs, not overseas”

Good Lord! Where do we get these people? How is it that people really don’t know that several Japanese car companies have plants here in the U.S., thus employing our citizens? Maybe he was joking… probably not.

The only car Mitsu has right now worth talking about is the Evo. All the others are killing them. They took a chance on the Evo and it’s worked out well – they nailed it actually. No other car for $45k or under can touch it for its performance value, not to mention its aftermarket power potential. I really don’t know why they went the direction they did with thew new Eclipse. They tried to change the image and styling, but didn’t put enough effort into its all around performance. Sure, it’s got 270 (or so) horsepower, but it’s heavy as hell and is far from a “sports car”. Ever since they ditched the turbocharged/AWD platform, the Eclipse has lost its soul.

It’s too bad they won’t make a 2-door version of the Evo. The sad thing is that even GM is coming out with more exciting small-sized cars… you know you’re in trouble if GM is making a more interesting 4-cylinder car than you for $20-25k.

06/02, 8:05 PM

posted by:

Sean

Excellent, I hate Asian car companies

06/02, 8:43 PM

posted by:

Jerry

Thank God I hate ugly ass imports Jap company’s may have plants here but most of the money goes back to Japan, be American buy American

06/02, 9:42 PM

posted by:

Al

Buy Amerikkkan, only Amerdican cars make you a true
A-mierda-ican citizen.

06/02, 10:00 PM

posted by:

1c3d0g

#37: who said anything about 5th grade? Oh, your entire family is still stuck in that grade…pity.

06/02, 11:13 PM

posted by:

Anonymous

Hey Jerry, isn’t 8:43 past your bedtime?

06/02, 11:33 PM

posted by:

Omar

Nice screen name there Mr. “1c3d0g”. Nice comeback too. I can’t stand Mitsu’s… the only exception being the previous generation Eclipses… like in the video for Dirty Vegas. I couldn’t care less if Mitsu left North America… but you’re seriously mistaken to think all ‘eastern’ cars are crap. Like I already mentioned, Japan, like any other country in the world is capable of producing both great vehicles and pieces of crap. Get an open mind!

06/03, 12:56 AM

posted by:

zedzded

LOL, of course 1c3d0g doesn’t shop at WalMart either because he *knows* 90% of everything there is from China. Right, Mr. d0g? Your well-reasoned and cogent response to Omar’s on-topic post was ever so refreshing to read… o_O

Anyways, I’d love to own an Evo, but the quality control is a pretty serious issue from what I understand. And that’s on the best of their lineup, so I kind of doubt it’s better on the ones they’re paying less attention to.

06/03, 3:04 AM

posted by:

Matt

I think it is really a shame to see how many people from the USA go against their fellow citizens. Toyota and Honda may have plants here- THEY’RE CALLED ASSEMBLY PLANTS- I can go to the local gas station, put air in my tires, snap a few parts on and say I assembled it there- BULL****! That’s the scam foreign markets use to make common people believe Toyota, Honda, and Nissan are AMERICAN companies- which they are not! GM, FORD, and Dodge have been around for 100 years, Toyotas and Hondas have only been around for 10-20 at the most; these automobiles have only recently became popular which makes me believe that people really don’t know how “great” these cars are. These conservatives can keep driving their foreign cars while I drive my 2003 Pontiac Grand Prix GT and get decent gas mileage (20 City 30 Highway). I’ll walk or ride a bike before I buy a foreign piece of ****. LUDA get a life- where do we get these people you ask- from the United States of America- not China, Japan, Vietnam, Korea, or any one of the Asian countries; LUDA that was the most idiotic comment ever- leave the country NOW! ALL FOREIGN SUPPORTERS should move to Asia and find out how underpaid and mistreated the people are- then think about how good we have it here and how the USA is throwing that away. I’m sorry if I offended any one but I AM AN AMERICAN and I’m sorry for believing in something that trully died decades ago- the proud and strong people of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and I HAVE fought for this country in IRAQ and have gotten little respect for it. I will use EVERY fiber in my body to keep what I have BECAUSE I HAVE WORKED MY ASS OFF FOR IT! I was a 4.0 student in high school and a 3.4 student throughout college and have my for engineering so thanks for keeping me employed.

06/03, 4:05 AM

posted by:

jonas

Matt, I’ll give you one piece of advice… lay off the crack…honda and toyota have been in america since the early 70’s…that’s over 30 years. America made awesome cars in the 60’s, but ever since it’s been a downward spiral. America got away with making ****ty cars and selling them ever since ’cause its the “american thing to do, support America”… blah blah blah, that’s a bunch of bull****.. If it wasn’t for foreign companies coming in here and kicking our asses with more car for less money, we’d still be making the crap cars we put out in the 70’s, 80’s, 90’s… Also if it wasn’t for foreign companies making efficient cars, our air would be ****, and our gas prices would be even higher than they are now. Foreign automakers have shaken American automakers and even helped out American companies (i.e. benz=dodge). Not only that, all these “assembly plants” employ a large number of Americans, stimulating our economy, and providing more jobs. So before you spouting your American hoo-rah all over the place you need to understand that if it wasn’t for the foreign competition, you’d be paying a lot more at the pump, driving a ****tier car, breathing some nasty air, fighting more wars for oil, and there would be no such thing as a hemi anymore.

06/03, 4:06 AM

posted by:

VDub

hey guys did you know that the minimum wage in japan is actually higher than the federal min. wage in the U.S.? so technically they’re outsourcing jobs to here! lol

06/03, 3:07 PM

posted by:

anonymous

I love when people tell me by supporting foreign cars, even if they are made in the U.S. my money is going overseas. Meanwhile they support the current administration which does nothing BUT send money overseas, OUR money. So even if you buy everything “American made”, your money is still going overseas to support wars, military bases and sending aid to countries.

06/03, 9:18 PM

posted by:

canut4ever

Keep the racism comments out of this tread, it was supposed to be about Mitsubishi. All these comments about the demise of Mitsu is greatly exaggerated. I think Mitsu cannot afford to close shop in the US. Let us wait for the new products coming up in the pipeline before branding them as failures. The problem of the current Mitsubishi is that they have too many old engines that are underpowered. They should aim for the top of the class while slashing costs. The styling is actually ok because it is a little bit more adventurous than Toyota and Honda. By the way, Mitsubishi still makes better sedans than GM failures like the Malibu.

06/04, 12:55 AM

posted by:

Anonymous

Oh, the Malibu is a total failure, despite being one of the strongest-selling American sedans.

Ever tried making sense? It helps.

06/04, 7:35 PM

posted by:

David

#20
i think mitsu in house performance is “ralliart”?? not sure thought, but they have been …well not a around for a while………?

06/04, 11:33 PM

posted by:

Patrick

#50, jonas, you took the words RIGHT out of my mouth. i was going to respond to Matt’s ranting “patriotic” biased bull****, but then i read your response, and you covered pretty much every single base. Matt, you keep driving your grand prix GT, with its low quality interior, poor visibility, and uncomfortable seats, i mean, you ARE supporting the good ol’ US of A. Thats pretty much what you are. an A. And thats an A standing for ASSHOLE. im sorry that you seem incapable of recognizing what i and many others find to be obvious, that american cars are pretty much **** these days, its sad, oh so sad, but TRUE, so get your head out of your ass where you’re playing time machine and pretending its 1965 again when American autos were something one could actually be proud of, and get into the 21st century and recognize that the most high quality, reliable, and also the most fun cars come out of japan and europe. and the assembly lines you so aptly describe as something you could easily do at a gas station do employ thousands of americans, keeping food on their families tables and in effect pumping money into america’s economy. so now that you’ve officially been proved , 1. Incorrect, 2. a douchebag, and 3. a douchebag, i’ll back up jonas again and give you the same advice: lay off the crack, and maybe even the herion while you’re at it

06/05, 2:20 AM

posted by:

Anonymous

I think you need to lay off the meth and get your head out of your ass where you’re playing time machine pretending it’s 1995 again when imports were something one [indecent] person would be proud of.

06/05, 6:25 AM

posted by:

canut4ever

Yeah right, strong sales to the fleet market because nobody wants them. Even if they do make a sale, it is always with incentives. Who is really not making sense now?

06/05, 4:07 PM

posted by:

joey b

Mitsubishi is a Japanese company. Gee, I wonder what would happen if they left. Let’s see, The Eclipse Galant and Endeavor are made in an American plant located in Normal, IL. That would be a large group of AMERICAN works out of a job. The Raider is a Dodge Dakota. It has caused so many problems already just like every Chrysler / Mitsubishi team up.
They are already platform sharing. The Galant Eclipse and Endeavor ar on the same one as well as the EVO, lancer, Lancer wagon and Outlander.
They dumped the Montero Sport, Montero Limited and Diamonte which all of were made in Australia.

Get some facts right folks.

The original interview regarding this was grossly taken out of context. Mitsubishi had released a letter to the dealers stating this fact.

The main problem Mitsubishi has is that they don’t keep the public informed. The do little to no advertising and that hurts as well.

06/05, 5:47 PM

posted by:

def jam

I have a hard on for Mitsu. I love Mitsu. I want Mitsu to replace the big 3. Get rid of that worthless union crap that keeps driving up the costs of cars. Hell, half those assholes at the big 3 don’t work anyway. They just sit on their lazy, overpaid asses. Please big 3, fold up and go away!

06/13, 4:28 PM

posted by:

Al

I’ve got Mitsubishi tv. I think it is good they started making cars now.

06/23, 5:45 AM

posted by:

O6 Evo IX Owner

As a new Evo IX owner, I have to say this car is definately not for everyone. The ride is stiff, the interior plain, the lack of creature comforts is readily apparent. However, if you want to belong to an exclusive club of race-bred rally cars, buy this car now! The driving experience is second to none. I live in southern california which has plenty of high money sports cars to go around, but when you get to race Lamborghini’s Gallardos and win (yes this happened to me), you know you made the right choice. The other day a BMW 550 owner complimented my car when we were stopped at a light. He asked, “How’s that rocket of yours?” I replied, “You’ll see when the light turns green.” He laughed and said “Forget it, you’ll kill me.” He was right.

As for people thinking Mitsubishi has poor reliability, I ask you would a company that offers a standard 4-yr 50k mi B2B warranty be bad? Check out consumer reports then look at cars like VW, Audi and Mercedes Benz. And don’t even buy porsche if you want a reliable ride, I see those cars getting towed off the side of the road more than anyone.

-My $0.02

08/22, 2:45 PM

posted by:

Rambler

This is a great thread :) great to see some good views .. as a starter I have owned mitsubishi’s before .. to be more accurate a 02 Eclipse, As a owner of a Mitsu I say the car is Bad, there are many cars better than the eclipse.. and Mitsu overall as everyone said is going downhill for sure … I stand for Better products anyday.. so even though I have owned 2 Mitsubishi’s 3000GT and Eclipse I say their products were good to bad and now worse !!! No contest at all …

Now to the many who have be US of A about this …hmmm it sounds very patriotic.. I am very thrilled by your patriotism… and I think GM, Ford make good cars too .. like Dogde Viper and so on… but I cant afford them ..maybe you can … and with my finances I choose Toyota or Honda.. cause I dont think youre gonna fix my car when it break .. so bye bye Ford and GM :)

As far as Be American – Buy American theme goes … hmm I am not up for that too .. cause I want to have quality products .. things that last … good stuff you see.. but all the best for the folks who wanna Be American – Buy American .. good Luck cleaning up your homes … I am not sure whats gonna be left in your house when you discover that the nails to your toilet seats .. the food to the sheets and clothes that you wear are all in some form or the other from the East … I dont wanna be running around naked and homeless just cause I am American … Me NO BUY THINGS FROM EAST … HAHAHA !! Sorry I dont wanna search through my house and destory everything from the east .. cause I dont think there will be anything left when I AM DONE !!! :)

09/01, 12:55 PM

posted by:

MJ

i love the new eclipse and i would be really upset if mitsu leaves… i think they can improve on some things to become a better car manufacture and be up with honda and toyota and the ford mustang

 
 
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