Not hiding much. Besides, I don’t much care what it looks like, so long as it is faster than the last one.

it’ll probably be only marginally faster, which is still very fast

How many changes do they need to make? Different power versions, still the same car. The cheap but not cheerful, very furious way to go fast.

That thing looks INSANE in camo. It looks like an insane asylum inmate. Like it enjoys killing other cars and eating their liver.

Actually I figured out what it reminds me of, Resident Evil’s “Nemesis”.

from the little i can see from the interior, it looks like the concept x. look at the seats, straight out of the concept car. this thing is gonna be so bad ass. i hope the price doesnt enter the stratosphere.

the base lancer comes in at around $14-20k. it would be nice if the ralliart came in at 20-25 with the evo running 30-40k. i will be looking for a new car about the time the ralliart hits the road, looking forward to that test drive.

This thing looks awesome. I really think it will totally kill the Skyline in the process of giant killing most other supercars.

Maybe now I’ll see used 2003-2004 Evolutions sell closer to KBB value so that I can buy one.

supercars! prepare to die!!! the “Super-All-Wheel Control” (S-AWC) — WILL make this the best handling vehicle in its class.

Yawn……………

For some reason, I just don’t like the new Evo. I much prefer Evo VIII.

—————————–> STUART: I LOVE evos, but…. the Evo has never in HISTORY been able to outrun the Skyline GTR, and it never will. (don’t count them FQ330s & FQ400s either cuz neither one of them was sold over here and were EXTREMELY rare). How’d tha heck did you manage to think this car [turbo2.0 liter,awd] would outrun the Skyline’s [twin-turbo 3.5L SIX,awd,2doors] in tha first place??……..LOL

————————>that’s like tryin to say my SRT-4 (stage0) will outrun a Subie WRX STi…………hhmnn, well……..

sadly i saw something i dont like. The roof line. Its not as sporty especially when the old evo is parked next to it(pict 3).

SRT-4Ken, u need to count the FQ models because they are part of the line up. it might not be sold in america but america is not the world. The FQ models exists so it is counted as an Evo

Not being biased toward my IXMR or anything, but im just not feeling the X. The Hyndai/Chrysler developed Engine & chassis isn’t helping either. The Super AWD looks promising to tell ya the truth, but then again for some people, too much electronic intervention isn’t always a good think.
Also the rake of the windshield on the X is steeper & the car is going to be taller. Big no-no in aerodynamics.
The newly developed engine will be an aluminum block. Not cast iron the like previous 4G63. Traditionally aluminum blocks are better with heat dicipation, but not as strong. Also the turbo will now be behind the engine instead of the front. That might not be an issue for some, but for those looking to make major modifications, it might. Having the turbo inbetween the engine and the firewall means there will be ALOT more heat in that area. As seen with alot of cars with this type of configuration, Big-turbo applications tend to melt anything in that area including fluid resevoirs. I’ve had this problem with my previous car(Dodge SRT-4).
The transmission will be offered in both a manual 5speed and a DSG style sequention gearbox. I haven’t seen any mention of a manual 6speed option for those who will want something other than a 5. The DSG gearbox is not going to be a popular pick with Enthusiasts who “actually like to drive”.
The interior looks awesome although certain things will not make the production-cut. The Porsche Chrono-style stopwatch on the dashboard & the red neon lighting under the dash are just a couple of examples.
Exterior-wise, The BBS wheels that were displayed on the concept & prototype are in question due to the recent news about BBS filing for bancrupcy.
Overall, the looks of the car are OK. I just still prefer my IX and am extremely happy that I baught it when I did.
Any other Evo owners on here have any thoughts on the X?

—————————–> STUART: I LOVE evos, but…. the Evo has never in HISTORY been able to outrun the Skyline GTR, and it never will. (don’t count them FQ330s & FQ400s either cuz neither one of them was sold over here and were EXTREMELY rare). How’d tha heck did you manage to think this car [turbo2.0 liter,awd] would outrun the Skyline’s [twin-turbo 3.5L SIX,awd,2doors] in tha first place??……..LOL

Comment by SRT-4Ken
In stock form the Evolutions & Skylines(including GTR) were not much different in performance. Horsepower was nearly identical, the Skyline had a bigger displacement engine, but was also a heavier car making the Evolution more nimble around the turns(where it counts). It might have some advantages over the Evolution when there are modifications made, but we’re talking about them in stock form. Aren’t you?
Why wouldn’t we count the FQs? The Skylines were never “officially” sold by Nissan over here in the U.S. So I don’t know where you getting at with that comparison. By the way, this site is international, meaning people from all over the world can access it. There are many foreigners from the UK for example that post on here.

One more thing…can someone please tell me WHY there is so much praise for Nissan’s Skyline GTR??? I don’t get it. Is it because of the Fast & Furious movie? Is it because of all the high-horsepower ones on the internet? I just don’t get it.
Im NOT saying that it isn’t a good car or anything. But some people think that it is just the “best car in the world” period. Sure when you modify them they are crazy street beasts capable of obliterating almost anything on the road, but the same could be said for a similarly priced Lotus Espirit or a Porsche 911. Both are cars that look really good, respond very well to modifications & handle great. All qualities people praise about in the Skyline. Am I missing something here?

aluminum block!? I’m not an evo owner but was an owner of a low 13 second GST. Thats ridiculous that they mounted the turbo behind the engine instead of front…thats what made it so easy to work on the 4G63.

I hope this isnt a more civilized version of the evo…

putting the turbo behind the engine makes for better weight distribution which is certainly a good thing (but will certainly limit the size of the turbos the tuners will want or be able to put on them). Hopefully these cars have a decent transmission in them, the ones in the Evo VIII might as well have been made out of glass.

—————->lol i feelya Andre Neves, but real talk i love my ‘05 SRT-4 wit my heart, not cuz its a dodge, but just for the fact its better[faster] than anything out there under $21K. Same point with the Skyline, the thing is just a beast, stock or modified. Twin-turbo,AWD,and what most people forget about, *fourwheelsteering*……..its just simply an amazing machine…..by the way, i hope the R34’s fourwheelsteering make it to the new GTR, which it prolly won’t……..

All around it doesn’t feel like the same punch. I like the old Evo better for looks. I hope the same won’t be said of its performance, tuneability or durability at higher than stock horsepower.

As far as aluminum engine blocks go, I’m interested to see where Mitsubishi’s and Nissan’s gamble tops out. Both the new Evo engine and the new GT-R engine are built of reinforced aluminum. These manufacturers know that their halo cars are going to be pushed well beyond stock horsepower levels. The technology for making a durable aluminum turbo block must have improved in the last 15 years for them to even bother.

^ correction:
“Hopefully these cars have a decent transmission in them, the ones in the Evo VIII might as well have been made out of glass since most kids that own them do 6000rpm launches from every street light they can find.”

If you use an Evo’s gearbox the way it’s supposed to be used, you won’t need overhaul the transmission every 10k miles.
It’s funny because the two cars that receive some of the worst rep for their transmissions are the WRX and the Evolution. Both can be baught for less the $37K and usually are put through several beatings from a stop when drag raced.
I drive my IX MR very hard to work and back, after work, & on the weekends. I have been putting the car through all it’s paces every single day since I baught it back in August. Already have 16k on the clock with no hint of trasmission problems. Infact, i’ve never had any problem with it.
Point is, the car was never designed for some of the transmission “abuse” that certain people put it through. So you can expect things to break. But in normal conditions they shouldn’t.

SRT-4Ken,
For wheel steer was never proved to help in any way in a car’s handling abilities. That’s why most manufacturers don’t use it. Honda used it in their prelude and look what happened.

Proven*

Andre, notice how I did not mention the the Evo IX 6 speed. I hear you on the 6000 RPM clutch dumps (although they have not killed the gearbox in my 380 AWHP Celica All-Trac). I was referring to the weak second gear they have. The WRX has the gearbox from the 2.5RS and it’s weak too and has weak syncro’s in it….AWD rally cars are not meant for drag racing (if you want to go fast in a straight line buy a car that is built for it) but you should not be able to kill a gearbox on 1st to 2nd shifts under boost when they came from the factory with a turbo.

——————>actually, 4wheelsteering is what gave the skyline that little push in oversteer in a corner to make it glide straight through the apex………

Didn’t Mitsubishi indroduce the “4 wheel steering” first in it’s 3000GT VR-4 in the early/mid 1990s? If it is so effective why didn’t they put it in Lancer Evos? Cost might be the factor.

—————->hhhmm…….that’s interesting, i never heard that about the 3000GT before…..

I think Nissan had 4 wheel steering first with the Super HICAS but Honda had a version too on the Prelude Toyota also put it on the Japan market Celica GT-R. Didn’t the Galant VR4 have 4 wheel steering too?

back in high school when the vr-4 came out i loved it, and now wonder why high performance awd cars from mitsu have to be 4 doors, the eclipse has the look of a high performance car but the fwd ruins it for me. what ever happened to all of the killer dsm`s?

^ yes it also had 4 wheel steering. I think they were the only two Mitsus that had it.

——————->speakin of DSMs, i used to have a ‘91 Eagle Talon TSi AWD, and i LOVED it……..Andre Neves, what “second” Mitsu are you talkin about that had 4wheel steering?? My Eagle Talon TSi show’l didn’t have it………

1.Galant Vr4
2.3000GT

——->oh…..that’s interesting….i wonder how come Audi has never thought about 4wheel steering since it was the first to introduce production all wheel drive……

Audi wasn’t the first to introduce production all wheel drive.
Porsche was the first to introduce it on a vehicle. I believe Spyker, Mercedes Benz, & BMW were the first to introduce it on production vehicles though.

————>Audi Quattro, 1981?

Porsche Lohner 1899 (not production though) was the first known all wheel drive system. It used a motor on each wheel hub. A system was later used on NASA’s moon rover.
Spyker I believe came out with a car a couple years later. And then BMW & Benz followed in the 30s & 40s I think. I could be wrong though.

The Skyline GT-R I think was and has always been a surprise. It is innocuous looking, yet was able to keep pace with just about anything out there. It relies on varies technologies to achieve this while not affecting the car’s tactility. And the fact that you can tune the Jesus out of them.

car is sick and fast but at 35k plus???? hmm, i’ll take any bimmer over it….. this car is for kids!! haha! jk
but for real a lot of u focus on supercar beater? u would really take this over a 335i, porsche? ferrari? just cause you can make it faster?
and what will u get when u beat a ferrari w. this car????
NOTHING! its still an evo!
just trying to make a point… and yes i do love this car, but i could never drive it cause imo its ugly!
pure performance = EVO for sure so to each their own!

can someone please tell me WHY there is so much praise for Nissan’s Skyline GTR???

GOD- 3 letters
GTR- 3 letters

think about it

But no matter how much they put in it, it’ll still cost much less than a Ferrari

————->V-series is living on MARS. Jeremy Clarkson already literally outpaced a Lambo Murceialago at the track on Top Gear with an Evo 9 last year……….FROM THE FACTORY…..

————–>Andre Neves, u are wrong. It was the 1981 Audi Quattro. The only car whatsoever Bfore that was the Range Rover. You must notta been here long enough to remember…….

The car is fast and fun, is gorgeous, and will now have a high-end interior. It will definitely encoach on BMW and AUDI territory, except that it will be cheaper and more reliable than either of these two brands. And then the Subaru STI will try to top it. The Germans are cooked.

V-series….u must have never heard of the FQ series. Just to explain, the FQ evos will outrun any V series.

————————->DomKing: u SOUND crazy! What do you drive, a PINTO??lol just to explain, a mitsubishi will NEVER be more reliable than a bimmer…..and don’t even mention Audi……

SRT-4ken, I believe the Murcielago run you’re talking about was done on snow. Later they tested it again and got a proper time with it that put it in the top 5 or something. I think the FQ might have beat it or come close though, it was only a second behind some Zonda (not the F…maybe the old one) anyway.

once again people, if you would take this over a lambo u are a fkn idiot, even if its 10 sec slower,,,, wtf is wrong w. some of you, the car looks like crap!

if your gonna trAck the car, buy the evo, other than that, no one will be impressed except kids that can’t get any ass!!!!!!!

dre, nobody ever said they would take this over a Lamborghini. Your just making things up so you can start an argument. Nice try though.

The first ever four-wheel drive car (as well as hill-climb racer)
with combustion engine, the Spyker 60 H.P., was presented in 1903 by
Dutch brothers Jacobus and Hendrik-Jan Spijker of Amsterdam”
-wikipedia.org

“The first Mercedes AWD vehicle was the 1907 Dernburg Wagen, designed by Paul Daimler and built by the company for use by Germany’s state secretary in Africa – Paul Dernburg. There was a considerable gap before the next AWD Mercedes – the Unimog, which was in turn followed
by the G-Class in 1979…” -MSN autos

Again…

“The first all-wheel-drive car for everyday use was built by
Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaft (DMG) in 1907. The “Dernburg-Wagen”, as
it was known, even featured all-wheel steering. It is called after the
then Secretary of State Bernhard Dernburg who drove many a kilometer
in it in Africa the following year.” -WCFans(abreviated)

” A Dutch manufacturer named Spyker had one of the first full-time 4WD
vehicles on display at the Paris Motor Show in 1903″ -Edmunds.com

“Mercedes and BMW, in 1926, introduced a rather sophisticated
four-wheel drive, the G1, the G4 and G4 following. The 1937
Mercedes-Benz G5 and BMW 325 4×4 featured full time four-wheel drive,
four-wheel steering, three differential lockers, and fully independent
suspension.” -Wikipedia.org

Last but not least…

“First 4WD was designed by Ferdinand Porsche (yes, the founder of
Porsche cars) for the Austrian truck manufacturer Jacob Lohner in 1900
(no typo). The vehicle had electric hub motors on each wheel – the
engine powered a generator for power supply. Porsche was 25 years old
when he designed the vehicle. By the way, NASA used the idea for the
electric wheel hub motor to put its lunar vehicle in motion” -4×4abc.com

“Ferdinand Porsche designed and built a four-wheel driven Electric
vehicle for the k. u. k. Hofwagenfabrik Ludwig Lohner & Co. (at
Vienna) in 1899, presented to the public during the 1900 World
Exhibition at Paris. The vehicle was powered by an electric hub at
each wheel, a design later used by NASA in the Lunar rover”
-wikipedia.org

“Ferdinand Porsche may well have invented the 4 wheel drive. -And, yes
you guessed correctly, the first 4×4 or 4 wheel drive was a Hybrid
Vehicle” -hybrid-vehicle.org

Do a quick google search for Audi’s history and it’ll turn up many
sites that state that Audi’s quattro system first debuted in 1980.
1899>1980. Porsche built the first known AWD/4WD system EVER which
was 81 years before Audi’s own.

***I originally had a link posted for each quote listed, but apparently LLN blocks certain automotive site for some reason LoL. I also had to abreviate one of them. So just do a google search and you’ll see what im talking about.

Jeremy Clarkson drove an Evolution VIII on the Evolution vs.
Murcielago comparison. It was an FQ, though I forgot which one.
FQ-400 maybe.

BTW V-series…

here’s an example of what I was talking about before.

Some guy on the evowned forums just ran a 12.5 @ 109 with an Evo IX w/ only a Turbo-back exhaust and posted a video of the run.
About the same time as a C5 Z06(LS6) or a C6(LS2). So much for your

“————————->DomKing: u SOUND crazy! What do you drive, a PINTO??lol just to explain, a mitsubishi will NEVER be more reliable than a bimmer…..and don’t even mention Audi……

Comment by SRT-4Ken”

My girlfriend has a 2006(E90) 325i that has been two service twice for the same problem, which is still occuring, with the valvtrain and once for loose headlight(HIDs). Very loud engine ticking which gets louder as you drive. BMW says there is nothing wrong with it and that it’s normal and they didn’t find anything wrong with the headlight either even though when you drive it and hit bumps the projector’s light path shutters like a strobe. I guess all the people in oncoming traffic that flash their high beams at her are seeing things too.
Quick search on the e90forums turned up a bunch of people with the same problem. Some have had their entire head assembly replaced. BMW diagnosed a bad lifter mechanism on 90% of the cases online. I guess they’re too proud to admit the problem on my girlfriend’s car though.
Don’t even get me started on both my Buddies’ 750 and M3 problems. One has had major valvtrain(M3) repairs(warrantied) done and the other(750) goes through hell with electrical problems.
I drive my Mitsubishi every day to work & back like I stole it. Have had it since August. Problems = 0
My girlfriend drives her 325 to work and back with immense care and at speeds that would make my granfather’s tractor seem slow. She’s had her car since the first month of the E90 launch. Problems = 3

I don’t know where your getting your info from. Bmw is not as reliable as people think.

“the FQ evos will outrun any V-series”
Don’t be so sure…
http://www.mallettcars.com/video/CTS-V-final_run.mov
(I’m not really sure how fast this car is compared to FQ evos, but it’s friggin’ awesome!!!)

Just to answer the question: I now drive a Subaru WRX. This is after having driven an Audi S4 for 5 years. The S4 was beautiful inside and out, and it was lots of fun to drive. But, the amount of time I spent at the dealer was utterly ridiculous. Then I found out that just about everyone else with an Audi or a BMW was experiencing the same nagging problems. The types of problems that should not happen in cars with those price tags. Yet, I never had problems with my Acura Integra, and my wife never had problems with her succession of Hondas. Ditto for everyone I know with Subarus and Toyotas. I thank Audi for getting me to love All Wheel Drive, making the Montreal winters more enjoyable. But, I will never again get seduced by the terrific German styling. It seems to me that the only guys who love those cars are the ones who have never owned them. The Japanese have now added performance and design to go along with reliability. I repeat: The Germans are cooked!

well V-series
CTS-V 0-60mph: 5 seconds
Standard Evo (280hp): 4.9
FQ 320: 4.5
FQ360 MR: 3.9
and the old FQ400: 3.5 seconds
so its quicker in a straight line. dont talk about handling cuz the CTS-V isnt even close im sure

neves, trust me, no arguements, i just can’t see how u can compare a lambo and an evo PERIOD

^they were obviously comparing it’s performance.

I liked some of the previous generation Evos (not so much this one). I’ve never been a big fan of most Evo drivers though

The R34 GT-R actually was slower than the Evo at lower speeds.

The Evo they used in that Top Gear episode was the FQ400. That episode was pretty good, but honestly they probably dramatized it a bit, and the FQ400 was a very low production, high maintenance, and expensive model.

Andre Neves the MR will be a 6 speed

——————->LoL “The R34 GT-R actually was slower than the Evo at lower speeds.” *LaughOutLoud* – A 997Turbo can literally be slower than a Chevy Aveo “at lower speeds”……….lol i had 2 catch that one……

^ I think that he meant at lower acceleration. ex 0-100mph. Topend acceleration is a different story though due to its bigger displacement and 2 extra cylinders.

Egbert Souse,
Oh ok. From what I read recently about the production version was that it was coming with two trasmission choices. 5speed & Sequential gearboxes.
Thanks for the update.

Andre, a bit of clarification on the chassis. Hyundai and DC did not develop the chassis (or the platform). Chrysler handed platform development was handed to Mitsu, which means that you should have nothing to worry about. And Chrysler had little, if anything, to do with the engine by the same token. They realized they have zero skill in this space, and looked to Hyundai on the engines and Mitsu on the platforms, letting the two of them figure it all out.

As always many of you write reactions like everyday is a race. You are sprinting from every red light and screeching down the highway. In real world driving conditions a Miata will as effective as a F430.

Your lives cannot be an episode of Miami Vice.

Maybe our lives aren’t as boring as yours. Don’t be so ignorant. I like tracking the cars I own on weekends. Reason I got myself an Evolution. Just because in your “real world” a Miata is as effective as a F430 doesn’t mean that we are as pathetic as you are.

Whoa Andre. You know I am all about Evos and the like; I just can stand people judging a car by its 0-60 times as if that’s all that matters.

And no Miata here: slugging it out in a ‘05 Legacy GT.

Andre Neves:

glad to finally see someone else realize that bimmers are not as reliable as everyone thinks. Every bmw that my friends have owned did not last more than 5 years without some major mechanical or electrical problem. I remember an aquaintance of mine bought then-new E90 M3 and sold it only after one year. Why? Because it was in the shop 1/2 the time she owned it.

RLX02:

there’s no such thing as a e90 M3 and the concept isn’t out yet. Do you mean e46? I personally never had any problems with any of the Bimmers I’ve owned and had free maintenance with breakfast. I believe it’s hit or miss with any car, I mean a Chevy can be more reliable than a Bimmer because they’re both made in high volumes so not every car will be problem free.

For all those haters on skyline Gt-R’s, don’t knock it if you haven’t driven one. Not a driver’s car? Both the R33 and R34 held the production car lap record at the Nurburgring Nordschleife… until the R34’s time was beaten by the Porsche 911 turbo: a car that costs more than twice as much. I guarantee that the R35 will obliterate that time when it hits the streets, also for way less coin. & FIY, the 4-wheel steering works. It turns the rear whees in the opposite direction at lower speeds, aiding maneuverability, and in the same direction as the fronts at high speeds to help in directional stability. Tie all that in with 3 limited slip diffs and ATTESA ET-S all-wheel drive and you’ve got big, comfy all wheel drive car that’s as nimble as cars much smaller and drives like a rear driver due to the computer controlled torque split. The only other car anywhere near it in terms of the acceleration and handling numbers it can generate for that price is the Evo… Great car as well, and cheaper too. We get those cars here in Jamaica, and I’ve driven them both so I know what I’m talking about. At the end of the day, you can argue about the image, and the feel of it on the road or a whole bunch of other subjective crap, but by the numbers, it’s a tough car to beat. I personally prefer it to an M3 (E36 vintage), and it’ll run circles around one on a track.

The problem with the Skyline GT-R is that, and NISSAN has admitted as much, that their “supercar” was designed to do only one thing, beat the 911 at Nurburgring and very little else.

It’s not much of a track star compared to the the super agile (exercise in unstable design principle) 911, the ultra refined Ferrari (pick one), the super outfitted Lamborghini, super powerful and owning more potential than a team of college athletes Corvette and Viper. I’d include the Mustang but it classes under the GT-R. Even the GT500KR is lacking.

The GT-R was made to solve only one problem and does it brilliantly. But against more generalized competitors, the GT-R will have some serious proving to do. That may be hard as it is nearly the only car in it’s class and so can not say it’s the best because it can’t race against them for proper recognition. It’ll never race in the GT 1 or GT 2 class of LeMans, never race for the Speed World Series title. What classes it can compete, slim company, will cost it badly against more nimble and just as fast competitors like the WRX and EVO.

Back the EVO X…

I still think it looks too flashy… it’s also very noticeably bigger than the old body EVOs gone by. Things almost as big as a Galant or Accord sedan. It’s a sports car more than a Rally car now in my mind, fit for a paved road circuit than the back roads of a Rally race course. Not the worst of possible worlds but it could be better.

this evo, I hope was as good as the last one, I’ll miss them dearly, I wonder if its able to compete its place in rally again.

To the clever person who has been spoofing my name and my website as “Hyperion”, I’d like to congratulate you. You obviously have a lot more time on your hands than I do to screw around using other people’s names to further your own trollish agenda.

I thought I noticed something funny a few days ago and now I have it confirmed before my eyes.

Thank you so much for this minor inconvenience that I’ll now have to deal with. I’m cynical and sure, I complain about cars on these forums. That doesn’t warrant getting nasty about it.

The irony I see here is that… while the real Hyperion is out busting his ass every day, a moron like you is on an online car forum trying to make a big joke out of his personality traits.

Who’s the real loser, I wonder?

–> Blakkarr, if you’ve seen one of the new lancers on the road, they actually look quite small. At the very least, they don’t look any bigger than the previous gen. I imagine this call will be every bet as good as the last, BUT they did manage to ruin the shape and rear end. It doesn’t look like an EVO anymore, every generation before it was very similar, with small changes happening over time. This one is completely different, and has a very different appeal. If they can keep the price down I bet it will sell like hotcakes.

Acura TL on the sides, all the way

$56k? WTF?

snoboardguy21,

Sorry to disappoint you but I have and they are noticeably larger than the previous lancer. I overstate that they are nearly as big as a Galant but, I am not in saying they are unattractively larger. Seriously that new Lancer is skirting to limits of “small car”, looking for Mid-sized. This new Lancer is not “compact” anymore. Also you are right, The Lancer did not evolve into this new shape… I haven’t said much about it because, I’m not interested in it.. I’m still more likely to buy a WRX. The new Lancer is strange looking and too flashy for my tastes. I liked the SEMA Eclipse better. That was the car they should have built.

As to the price. Europe tends to pay more for everything anyway, relatively speaking. But I won’t be surprised if the standard EVO X does sell for over $30K, or even $35K. That new WRX isn’t looking so ugly now, is it?

Actually when I think about it, the New Lancer/EXO X is about the same size as a new Lexus IS.

$56k for a Mitsubishi??? riiiiggghhhttttt

The price is too steep they should keep true to the economic price that made the evo so much bang for the buck. i like the styling but i’m not sure about that read end it looks ugly

============>>infamouz9325, sik59rt, read blakkarr’s post, he’s right about the price…..when they said “costing more than 42,000 euros (around $56,000 U.S., although European car prices are hard to translate into U.S. dollars)” they were only ESTIMATING. Just like Blakkarr said, Europeans always do tend to pay a lot more for everything, reletively speakin, so if 42k euros translate into $56k on this side of the pond, and since they usually pay more, just subtract a “relative figure” from that $56k estimate and it will probably start around $35k to $37k-ish…..

This thing will rule this segment when it drops. Anyone betting against it will end up eating their words. I guarantee it. The Evo has always been, and most likely will continue to be one of the most precise driving tools ever. Comfortable? Not really. If I run over a cigarette in my Evo IX, I can tell. Beautiful? Hell no… but pure bad ass. This isn’t Grandma’s frumpy old sedan. It’s a very focused machine. It’s built to go fast, handle well and beat the pants off cars that cost a lot more. It’s probably not a car that you’d want to drive everyday either but for thrills, few can match it.

All the nay sayers need to do is drive one. That’ll shut ‘em up for sure. If you want a luxury sedan, look elsewhere. This sure as hell isn’t it.

it better stay under $38k thats all ill say

I know it’s a fun car. I know it is fast and handles and stops great. But the biggest flaw of the Evo is its foundation. It’s still based on a Lancer econobox, and is still a souped up, riced out econobox. That’s exusable and acceptable at under $30k, considering the performance you get. But when you start pushing north of $40k, the Lancer platform doesn’t cut it anymore. I don’t care what the performance numbers say. It’s like building a mansion in a trailer park.

Agreed.

Z06ified, I don’t think that by the new Evo being built on a new Lancer foundation is a flaw at all, get your facts straight, the new base Lancer has an over 50% more rigid body then the current Evo IX, and we all know what that means, don’t we.

Why don’t you get YOUR facts straight, and check your attitude at the door.

Fact: The Evo is built upon the Lancer chassis, which is an econobox.

Fact: Econoboxes never make good platforms for building high performance vehicles versus designing a performance platform from the ground-up, or using a more substantial platform to begin with.

You’re comparing an older econobox with another newer econobox. No kidding it’s more rigid. That doesn’t make it more rigid than other $40k performance vehicles, now does it? And that’s my point.

Alright Zo6ified, but what you are forgetting is that previous Evolutions, although baesed on the Lancer platform, their platforms are heavily revised to meet the stringent demand of the evolutions tasks, making them far mor stout than the Lancer’s is. The new stock Lancer, has a chassis that is 300% stiffer than the previous evolution IX.
Furthurmore, did you read the motor trend test for the best handling cars in america? It stated that the reason the evolution IX did so well on the slalom test was because of “good ol’ chassis engineering” as on one journalist stated. Surely you cant dispute that. Just because something is based on something else, doesnt mean that it cant be great, and though you may have spent some eighty thousand or so on your Z06 (if it is the 07 model) it doesnt mean that my black 06 MR, with all of its thirty five thousand dollars of econobox bones (to you); cant humble your Z06.

All I did was a turbo back, clutch, ecu reflash, flywheel, air intake, and boost controller and I got 3.7 seconds from 0-60, with an even torque curve, sound fimiliar, doesnt it?
….Oh, and for $3500 (usd) too.
I hate to ask, but, how much does that cost for a Z06?

Oh, and I dislike straight lines figures, there is little skill (relatively) involved in going in a straight line, though that is personal opinion. More power to those who can drive my car faster in a straight line than I can.

I hate gold-chain conessuers who beleive that just because they have a car that cost this much, that their car is superior to those who were more conciencious with their spending and opted to get the best for what they can afford.

Oh, I know I just keep going, but I think that the current lancer evolutions spartan interior adds to the appeal. It gives the lancer a focused presence, a minimalist philosophy that supports the notion that the lancer is a group a homoligation that is strictly meant for the driver who is a tru enthusiest who is not concerned with cosmetics, or comforts, but one that is concerned with the performance and soul that the automobile presents, and the evolution IX and lotus elise are the only two automobiles on the market that truly embody that; others appease, these two refuse.
Even the new X is a cop-out, evo owners will always be evo owners, the evolution is a niche car, it will never branch out into other arenas, so why mitsubishi, do you have to try to tend to those people?

i want a X that is even harder than the ix, it should be less forhiving and more focused, it should read “not for the faint at heart” on the steering wheel, should keep the 4g63 (you will be missed at anything over 22psi of boost), loose the craptacular weight gain, read “winged mirauder” on the rear diffuser, ditch the ugly shark nose corperate face (whats with “corperate faces anyway? Just make beautiful cars dammit), loose the audio controls on the steering wheel thats not what the evo is for, loose cruise control, no evo driver shoul ever be disenchanted with his/her evo experience, dual tailpipes? dual tailpipes? loose those to, thay look great but, they add weight, the audi a8 is the best luxury sedan of the 21st century, loose those headlights look like they are glaring a little to much to be taken seriously, the wing is no longer carbon fiber what-the-hell, say bygones to all that technical intervention, and offering a DSG system for a drivers car, the lancer should read on the headliner “driver car no comprimises” with the stick shifter standing proud were the DSG one wouldve been.
The new lancer evo is nothing more then an athletic sedan now.

“It’ll cost slighty more than the current model” go buy one, and I hope some third party Mitsubishi division makes bumber stickers that read “last real evo” with a picture of the Evo IX.

Where is the soul in the automobile industry? Carbon fiber in ultra-sedans/luxo limos? Clutchless transmissions? Pedal Shifters? Traction/Launch Control in high performance cars? Power seat options? The art of driving is slowly but surely being silenced.

Anyone?