Comments on: Spied: 2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X

By: jbernard1234

jbernard1234 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:58:06 +0000

Anyone?

By: jbernard1234

jbernard1234 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:56:54 +0000

Where is the soul in the automobile industry? Carbon fiber in ultra-sedans/luxo limos? Clutchless transmissions? Pedal Shifters? Traction/Launch Control in high performance cars? Power seat options? The art of driving is slowly but surely being silenced.

By: jbernard1234

jbernard1234 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:50:04 +0000

“It’ll cost slighty more than the current model” go buy one, and I hope some third party Mitsubishi division makes bumber stickers that read “last real evo” with a picture of the Evo IX.

By: jbernard1234

jbernard1234 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:46:26 +0000

i want a X that is even harder than the ix, it should be less forhiving and more focused, it should read “not for the faint at heart” on the steering wheel, should keep the 4g63 (you will be missed at anything over 22psi of boost), loose the craptacular weight gain, read “winged mirauder” on the rear diffuser, ditch the ugly shark nose corperate face (whats with “corperate faces anyway? Just make beautiful cars dammit), loose the audio controls on the steering wheel thats not what the evo is for, loose cruise control, no evo driver shoul ever be disenchanted with his/her evo experience, dual tailpipes? dual tailpipes? loose those to, thay look great but, they add weight, the audi a8 is the best luxury sedan of the 21st century, loose those headlights look like they are glaring a little to much to be taken seriously, the wing is no longer carbon fiber what-the-hell, say bygones to all that technical intervention, and offering a DSG system for a drivers car, the lancer should read on the headliner “driver car no comprimises” with the stick shifter standing proud were the DSG one wouldve been.
The new lancer evo is nothing more then an athletic sedan now.

By: jbernard1234

jbernard1234 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:34:41 +0000

Oh, I know I just keep going, but I think that the current lancer evolutions spartan interior adds to the appeal. It gives the lancer a focused presence, a minimalist philosophy that supports the notion that the lancer is a group a homoligation that is strictly meant for the driver who is a tru enthusiest who is not concerned with cosmetics, or comforts, but one that is concerned with the performance and soul that the automobile presents, and the evolution IX and lotus elise are the only two automobiles on the market that truly embody that; others appease, these two refuse.
Even the new X is a cop-out, evo owners will always be evo owners, the evolution is a niche car, it will never branch out into other arenas, so why mitsubishi, do you have to try to tend to those people?

By: jbernard1234

jbernard1234 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:26:13 +0000

I hate gold-chain conessuers who beleive that just because they have a car that cost this much, that their car is superior to those who were more conciencious with their spending and opted to get the best for what they can afford.

By: jbernard1234

jbernard1234 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:23:14 +0000

Oh, and I dislike straight lines figures, there is little skill (relatively) involved in going in a straight line, though that is personal opinion. More power to those who can drive my car faster in a straight line than I can.

By: jbernard1234

jbernard1234 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:20:25 +0000

All I did was a turbo back, clutch, ecu reflash, flywheel, air intake, and boost controller and I got 3.7 seconds from 0-60, with an even torque curve, sound fimiliar, doesnt it?
….Oh, and for $3500 (usd) too.
I hate to ask, but, how much does that cost for a Z06?

By: jbernard1234

jbernard1234 — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:16:34 +0000

Alright Zo6ified, but what you are forgetting is that previous Evolutions, although baesed on the Lancer platform, their platforms are heavily revised to meet the stringent demand of the evolutions tasks, making them far mor stout than the Lancer’s is. The new stock Lancer, has a chassis that is 300% stiffer than the previous evolution IX.
Furthurmore, did you read the motor trend test for the best handling cars in america? It stated that the reason the evolution IX did so well on the slalom test was because of “good ol’ chassis engineering” as on one journalist stated. Surely you cant dispute that. Just because something is based on something else, doesnt mean that it cant be great, and though you may have spent some eighty thousand or so on your Z06 (if it is the 07 model) it doesnt mean that my black 06 MR, with all of its thirty five thousand dollars of econobox bones (to you); cant humble your Z06.

By: Z06ified

Z06ified — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:43:44 +0000

Why don’t you get YOUR facts straight, and check your attitude at the door.

Fact: The Evo is built upon the Lancer chassis, which is an econobox.

Fact: Econoboxes never make good platforms for building high performance vehicles versus designing a performance platform from the ground-up, or using a more substantial platform to begin with.

You’re comparing an older econobox with another newer econobox. No kidding it’s more rigid. That doesn’t make it more rigid than other $40k performance vehicles, now does it? And that’s my point.

By: blitzkrieg79

blitzkrieg79 — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:50:41 +0000

Z06ified, I don’t think that by the new Evo being built on a new Lancer foundation is a flaw at all, get your facts straight, the new base Lancer has an over 50% more rigid body then the current Evo IX, and we all know what that means, don’t we.

By: Blakkarr

Blakkarr — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:38:02 +0000

Agreed.

By: Z06ified

Z06ified — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:17:19 +0000

I know it’s a fun car. I know it is fast and handles and stops great. But the biggest flaw of the Evo is its foundation. It’s still based on a Lancer econobox, and is still a souped up, riced out econobox. That’s exusable and acceptable at under $30k, considering the performance you get. But when you start pushing north of $40k, the Lancer platform doesn’t cut it anymore. I don’t care what the performance numbers say. It’s like building a mansion in a trailer park.

By: A4

A4 — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 04:37:55 +0000

it better stay under $38k thats all ill say

By: jamaicandude

jamaicandude — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:25:29 +0000

This thing will rule this segment when it drops. Anyone betting against it will end up eating their words. I guarantee it. The Evo has always been, and most likely will continue to be one of the most precise driving tools ever. Comfortable? Not really. If I run over a cigarette in my Evo IX, I can tell. Beautiful? Hell no… but pure bad ass. This isn’t Grandma’s frumpy old sedan. It’s a very focused machine. It’s built to go fast, handle well and beat the pants off cars that cost a lot more. It’s probably not a car that you’d want to drive everyday either but for thrills, few can match it.

All the nay sayers need to do is drive one. That’ll shut ‘em up for sure. If you want a luxury sedan, look elsewhere. This sure as hell isn’t it.

By: SRT-4Ken

SRT-4Ken — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:54:34 +0000

============>>infamouz9325, sik59rt, read blakkarr’s post, he’s right about the price…..when they said “costing more than 42,000 euros (around $56,000 U.S., although European car prices are hard to translate into U.S. dollars)” they were only ESTIMATING. Just like Blakkarr said, Europeans always do tend to pay a lot more for everything, reletively speakin, so if 42k euros translate into $56k on this side of the pond, and since they usually pay more, just subtract a “relative figure” from that $56k estimate and it will probably start around $35k to $37k-ish…..

By: infamouz9325

infamouz9325 — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:56:20 +0000

The price is too steep they should keep true to the economic price that made the evo so much bang for the buck. i like the styling but i’m not sure about that read end it looks ugly

By: sik59rt

sik59rt — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:52:38 +0000

$56k for a Mitsubishi??? riiiiggghhhttttt

By: Blakkarr

Blakkarr — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 07:14:52 +0000

Actually when I think about it, the New Lancer/EXO X is about the same size as a new Lexus IS.

By: Blakkarr

Blakkarr — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:56:40 +0000

snoboardguy21,

Sorry to disappoint you but I have and they are noticeably larger than the previous lancer. I overstate that they are nearly as big as a Galant but, I am not in saying they are unattractively larger. Seriously that new Lancer is skirting to limits of “small car”, looking for Mid-sized. This new Lancer is not “compact” anymore. Also you are right, The Lancer did not evolve into this new shape… I haven’t said much about it because, I’m not interested in it.. I’m still more likely to buy a WRX. The new Lancer is strange looking and too flashy for my tastes. I liked the SEMA Eclipse better. That was the car they should have built.

As to the price. Europe tends to pay more for everything anyway, relatively speaking. But I won’t be surprised if the standard EVO X does sell for over $30K, or even $35K. That new WRX isn’t looking so ugly now, is it?

By: RicardoHead

RicardoHead — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 04:13:59 +0000

$56k? WTF?

By: LuckyLou

LuckyLou — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 02:48:13 +0000

Acura TL on the sides, all the way

By: snoboardguy21

snoboardguy21 — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 02:22:52 +0000

–> Blakkarr, if you’ve seen one of the new lancers on the road, they actually look quite small. At the very least, they don’t look any bigger than the previous gen. I imagine this call will be every bet as good as the last, BUT they did manage to ruin the shape and rear end. It doesn’t look like an EVO anymore, every generation before it was very similar, with small changes happening over time. This one is completely different, and has a very different appeal. If they can keep the price down I bet it will sell like hotcakes.

By: Hyperion

Hyperion — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:46:48 +0000

To the clever person who has been spoofing my name and my website as “Hyperion”, I’d like to congratulate you. You obviously have a lot more time on your hands than I do to screw around using other people’s names to further your own trollish agenda.

I thought I noticed something funny a few days ago and now I have it confirmed before my eyes.

Thank you so much for this minor inconvenience that I’ll now have to deal with. I’m cynical and sure, I complain about cars on these forums. That doesn’t warrant getting nasty about it.

The irony I see here is that… while the real Hyperion is out busting his ass every day, a moron like you is on an online car forum trying to make a big joke out of his personality traits.

Who’s the real loser, I wonder?

By: Htay5500

Htay5500 — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:26:04 +0000

this evo, I hope was as good as the last one, I’ll miss them dearly, I wonder if its able to compete its place in rally again.

By: Blakkarr

Blakkarr — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:51:20 +0000

The problem with the Skyline GT-R is that, and NISSAN has admitted as much, that their “supercar” was designed to do only one thing, beat the 911 at Nurburgring and very little else.

It’s not much of a track star compared to the the super agile (exercise in unstable design principle) 911, the ultra refined Ferrari (pick one), the super outfitted Lamborghini, super powerful and owning more potential than a team of college athletes Corvette and Viper. I’d include the Mustang but it classes under the GT-R. Even the GT500KR is lacking.

The GT-R was made to solve only one problem and does it brilliantly. But against more generalized competitors, the GT-R will have some serious proving to do. That may be hard as it is nearly the only car in it’s class and so can not say it’s the best because it can’t race against them for proper recognition. It’ll never race in the GT 1 or GT 2 class of LeMans, never race for the Speed World Series title. What classes it can compete, slim company, will cost it badly against more nimble and just as fast competitors like the WRX and EVO.

Back the EVO X…

I still think it looks too flashy… it’s also very noticeably bigger than the old body EVOs gone by. Things almost as big as a Galant or Accord sedan. It’s a sports car more than a Rally car now in my mind, fit for a paved road circuit than the back roads of a Rally race course. Not the worst of possible worlds but it could be better.

By: jamaicandude

jamaicandude — Sat, 31 Mar 2007 08:04:55 +0000

For all those haters on skyline Gt-R’s, don’t knock it if you haven’t driven one. Not a driver’s car? Both the R33 and R34 held the production car lap record at the Nurburgring Nordschleife… until the R34’s time was beaten by the Porsche 911 turbo: a car that costs more than twice as much. I guarantee that the R35 will obliterate that time when it hits the streets, also for way less coin. & FIY, the 4-wheel steering works. It turns the rear whees in the opposite direction at lower speeds, aiding maneuverability, and in the same direction as the fronts at high speeds to help in directional stability. Tie all that in with 3 limited slip diffs and ATTESA ET-S all-wheel drive and you’ve got big, comfy all wheel drive car that’s as nimble as cars much smaller and drives like a rear driver due to the computer controlled torque split. The only other car anywhere near it in terms of the acceleration and handling numbers it can generate for that price is the Evo… Great car as well, and cheaper too. We get those cars here in Jamaica, and I’ve driven them both so I know what I’m talking about. At the end of the day, you can argue about the image, and the feel of it on the road or a whole bunch of other subjective crap, but by the numbers, it’s a tough car to beat. I personally prefer it to an M3 (E36 vintage), and it’ll run circles around one on a track.

By: jay325xi

jay325xi — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 03:51:16 +0000

RLX02:

there’s no such thing as a e90 M3 and the concept isn’t out yet. Do you mean e46? I personally never had any problems with any of the Bimmers I’ve owned and had free maintenance with breakfast. I believe it’s hit or miss with any car, I mean a Chevy can be more reliable than a Bimmer because they’re both made in high volumes so not every car will be problem free.

By: RLX02

RLX02 — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:56:21 +0000

Andre Neves:

glad to finally see someone else realize that bimmers are not as reliable as everyone thinks. Every bmw that my friends have owned did not last more than 5 years without some major mechanical or electrical problem. I remember an aquaintance of mine bought then-new E90 M3 and sold it only after one year. Why? Because it was in the shop 1/2 the time she owned it.

By: meanpants555

meanpants555 — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:05:05 +0000

And no Miata here: slugging it out in a ‘05 Legacy GT.

By: meanpants555

meanpants555 — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:02:27 +0000

Whoa Andre. You know I am all about Evos and the like; I just can stand people judging a car by its 0-60 times as if that’s all that matters.

By: Andre Neves

Andre Neves — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:56:51 +0000

Maybe our lives aren’t as boring as yours. Don’t be so ignorant. I like tracking the cars I own on weekends. Reason I got myself an Evolution. Just because in your “real world” a Miata is as effective as a F430 doesn’t mean that we are as pathetic as you are.

By: meanpants555

meanpants555 — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:43:35 +0000

Your lives cannot be an episode of Miami Vice.

By: meanpants555

meanpants555 — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:42:35 +0000

As always many of you write reactions like everyday is a race. You are sprinting from every red light and screeching down the highway. In real world driving conditions a Miata will as effective as a F430.

By: bdizzlefizzle

bdizzlefizzle — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:56:43 +0000

Andre, a bit of clarification on the chassis. Hyundai and DC did not develop the chassis (or the platform). Chrysler handed platform development was handed to Mitsu, which means that you should have nothing to worry about. And Chrysler had little, if anything, to do with the engine by the same token. They realized they have zero skill in this space, and looked to Hyundai on the engines and Mitsu on the platforms, letting the two of them figure it all out.