Germany’s Auto Motor und Sport seems pretty convinced its renderings of the 2008 Volkswagen Scirocco are accurate. The magazine has posted a new online gallery with four renderings of the car. Unlike past renderings of the new Scirocco, these look more like a hatchback and less like a traditional coupe.
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05/23, 12:07 PM
posted by:
Cameron
I really hope this isn’t it. It’s not that this is terrible, cause it is livable. However, the rendering of the red one that came out about six months or so ago was absolutely on the mark.
05/23, 12:36 PM
posted by:
E M
Looks like the Volvo C30. Needs less front overhang and a more sloping hatch. Unless it’s only a grand or two more than the Golf, it wont sell. Doesn’t look that much sportier if this is indeed accurate.
05/23, 12:51 PM
posted by:
Steve
Why does it have such a hatch look for a “coupe”. #1 is right about that old rendering. That looks far better than this. Cars shouldn’t be inoffensive appliances.
05/23, 1:26 PM
posted by:
jonas
oh man… that front overhang is a design disaster… they better fix that **** before trying to put this into production… And I agree, the red concept we saw a while back that was more coupe looked a lot better…
05/23, 1:49 PM
posted by:
Northeasterner
Virtually every Audi and VW model has a large front overhang (which I don’t like) – don’t see why they’d make this one different. I agree 100% that the old rendering was way hotter.
05/23, 1:52 PM
posted by:
James mason
Looks werry alfa romeoish…brera anyone?
05/23, 2:04 PM
posted by:
que
This looks pretty pathetic.
05/23, 2:11 PM
posted by:
Rory
yeah totally boring
05/23, 2:27 PM
posted by:
BAMF
Audi is fixing its front overhang problem witha smaller gearbox (at least i’m pretty sure thats what it was)
05/23, 3:32 PM
posted by:
RangeRoverBoy
There’s nothing 400hp and 4Motion can’t fix.
05/23, 3:56 PM
posted by:
Khafil
Take it easy, Autobild likes to come up with lots of bull**** renderings like this one. If anything, it looks like the next A3.
05/23, 4:40 PM
posted by:
Northeasterner
I remember hearing that the large overhang was partially for “pedestrian safety”. But I am not sure there was a bigger reason for it, eg. placement of the gearbox and the engine.
05/23, 4:52 PM
posted by:
Atomicbri
Looks to me in the front a lot like Mitsubishi’s Concept X
05/23, 9:13 PM
posted by:
Ryan
I too agree with 1, about how badass the first red rendering looked. Give us that VW… and you wont be able to build enough of them.
05/23, 9:25 PM
posted by:
Jon
Actually, they (Audi) are moving the engines 2-3 inches (which is a lot), so that should help.
Jon.
05/24, 5:48 AM
posted by:
Bob
Looks like honda s2000 headlights, and kinda like the upcoming golf mk6 sketches i saw awhile back. Yeah, I definitely agree that the old renderings of the red one looks better too. Bring back the coupe!
05/24, 8:42 AM
posted by:
Patrick
It looks good from the back angle, the front angle looks a little soft but the front overhang isn’t that noticable from the front. However, from the side view that front overhang looks like total ****, other audi’s and VW’s pull off an overhang and continue to look great, but this really doesn’t work.
05/31, 8:30 AM
posted by:
Spinnetti
I’m with the first post. I doubt VW reads this kind of stuff, but the Auto Bild concept (the red picture) is totally kick a$$. Me and two friends are lined up to get one each if its like that, with the 2.0T and under $30k. If its like the silver one, We’ll all pass (We all currently have VW, Audi and BMW’s now). Even our wives have all given the nod (which is unusual!)
I was all excited about the same type of concept Auto Bild had for the new TT, and was considering that until the real thing came out – I think its way off the mark.
VW should immediately hire the person who did the Red Scirocco concept ant the similarly styled TT!
The overhang of the silver one is gross, and Audis moving of the engine back is NOT for transverse layouts – only the longitudinal ones like the A4 and A6. Since the VW’s are transverse, shouldn’t mean anything for them unless they come up with other tricks.
07/12, 1:14 PM
posted by:
Faireduvelo
Of 18 comments posted so far, at least half of them seem to imply that they want an aggressively sloped hatch and a short front overhang… like the Ford Probe? Well, i don’t disagree, but this seems like overly minor nitpicking before seeing the final product.
Car design is a constant struggle between functionality, performance, cost, and beauty. The silver Scirocco, to my mind, strikes a very good balance. If you’re the kind of buyer who likes German sedans, which are among the ugliest vehicles on the road, then this rendering of the silver Scirocco should be a supermodel in your eyes. This rendering is DEFINITELY NOT “pathetic” or “boring”, but let’s hold final judgement after we test drive it. Sure, the red rendering was arguably more beautiful, but the silver Scirocco is definitely more useable with the larger hatch and cargo space, too. This extra practicality will increase sales, and it won’t degrade its performance, folks!
In my opinion, the biggest challenges for VW will be:
1) To differentiate this car from the GTI, R32, and upcoming Volvo C30, the Scirocco must be sleeker and lighter, with better chassis balance. (A true sporting car should have 50-55% of its weight over the rear tires.) It looks like VW is partly there. Yes, front overhand should be minimized, but even better, configure it to be rear wheel drive like the much-missed Porsche 944/968!!!
2) The flowing Alfa Romeo Brera silhouette and the Honda S2000 headlamps may not be entirely original (few things are in the automotive world!), but they are very attractive and timeless. The huge front grill and oft-mentioned front overhang might be considered a drawback, but looks can be deceiving and everyone has his own taste. At least this rendering indicates that the openings are not all laden with ugly chrome. VW must get the sporting look right.
3. Looks are nothing without affordability and real-world useability. Ladening the Scirocco with expensive gadgets, especially troublesome and annoying ones such as BMW and Mercedes have done of late, will drive many would-be buyers to Honda or Subaru dealerships. Similarly, overpricing or undersizing it will deflate sales too. If this is going to be a successful hatchback, it needs better quality and performance than the late Mercedes C320, at a much better price.
4. My suspicion is that the Scirocco will have the same chassis and major mechanical specifications as the new Audi TT, with lesser grade materials to save costs. If people don’t like the VW styling, then spend the extra money for the Audi. But when benchmarking cost, quality, and performance, VW better not think that the Scirocco’s competition is Swedish or German. The real challengers are the WRX, Civic Si, etc.
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05/23, 12:07 PM
posted by:
Cameron
I really hope this isn’t it. It’s not that this is terrible, cause it is livable. However, the rendering of the red one that came out about six months or so ago was absolutely on the mark.
05/23, 12:36 PM
posted by:
E M
Looks like the Volvo C30. Needs less front overhang and a more sloping hatch. Unless it’s only a grand or two more than the Golf, it wont sell. Doesn’t look that much sportier if this is indeed accurate.
05/23, 12:51 PM
posted by:
Steve
Why does it have such a hatch look for a “coupe”. #1 is right about that old rendering. That looks far better than this. Cars shouldn’t be inoffensive appliances.
05/23, 1:26 PM
posted by:
jonas
oh man… that front overhang is a design disaster… they better fix that **** before trying to put this into production… And I agree, the red concept we saw a while back that was more coupe looked a lot better…
05/23, 1:49 PM
posted by:
Northeasterner
Virtually every Audi and VW model has a large front overhang (which I don’t like) – don’t see why they’d make this one different. I agree 100% that the old rendering was way hotter.
05/23, 1:52 PM
posted by:
James mason
Looks werry alfa romeoish…brera anyone?
05/23, 2:04 PM
posted by:
que
This looks pretty pathetic.
05/23, 2:11 PM
posted by:
Rory
yeah totally boring
05/23, 2:27 PM
posted by:
BAMF
Audi is fixing its front overhang problem witha smaller gearbox (at least i’m pretty sure thats what it was)
05/23, 3:32 PM
posted by:
RangeRoverBoy
There’s nothing 400hp and 4Motion can’t fix.
05/23, 3:56 PM
posted by:
Khafil
Take it easy, Autobild likes to come up with lots of bull**** renderings like this one. If anything, it looks like the next A3.
05/23, 4:40 PM
posted by:
Northeasterner
I remember hearing that the large overhang was partially for “pedestrian safety”. But I am not sure there was a bigger reason for it, eg. placement of the gearbox and the engine.
05/23, 4:52 PM
posted by:
Atomicbri
Looks to me in the front a lot like Mitsubishi’s Concept X
05/23, 9:13 PM
posted by:
Ryan
I too agree with 1, about how badass the first red rendering looked. Give us that VW… and you wont be able to build enough of them.
05/23, 9:25 PM
posted by:
Jon
Actually, they (Audi) are moving the engines 2-3 inches (which is a lot), so that should help.
Jon.
05/24, 5:48 AM
posted by:
Bob
Looks like honda s2000 headlights, and kinda like the upcoming golf mk6 sketches i saw awhile back. Yeah, I definitely agree that the old renderings of the red one looks better too. Bring back the coupe!
05/24, 8:42 AM
posted by:
Patrick
It looks good from the back angle, the front angle looks a little soft but the front overhang isn’t that noticable from the front. However, from the side view that front overhang looks like total ****, other audi’s and VW’s pull off an overhang and continue to look great, but this really doesn’t work.
05/31, 8:30 AM
posted by:
Spinnetti
I’m with the first post. I doubt VW reads this kind of stuff, but the Auto Bild concept (the red picture) is totally kick a$$. Me and two friends are lined up to get one each if its like that, with the 2.0T and under $30k. If its like the silver one, We’ll all pass (We all currently have VW, Audi and BMW’s now). Even our wives have all given the nod (which is unusual!)
I was all excited about the same type of concept Auto Bild had for the new TT, and was considering that until the real thing came out – I think its way off the mark.
VW should immediately hire the person who did the Red Scirocco concept ant the similarly styled TT!
The overhang of the silver one is gross, and Audis moving of the engine back is NOT for transverse layouts – only the longitudinal ones like the A4 and A6. Since the VW’s are transverse, shouldn’t mean anything for them unless they come up with other tricks.
07/12, 1:14 PM
posted by:
Faireduvelo
Of 18 comments posted so far, at least half of them seem to imply that they want an aggressively sloped hatch and a short front overhang… like the Ford Probe? Well, i don’t disagree, but this seems like overly minor nitpicking before seeing the final product.
Car design is a constant struggle between functionality, performance, cost, and beauty. The silver Scirocco, to my mind, strikes a very good balance. If you’re the kind of buyer who likes German sedans, which are among the ugliest vehicles on the road, then this rendering of the silver Scirocco should be a supermodel in your eyes. This rendering is DEFINITELY NOT “pathetic” or “boring”, but let’s hold final judgement after we test drive it. Sure, the red rendering was arguably more beautiful, but the silver Scirocco is definitely more useable with the larger hatch and cargo space, too. This extra practicality will increase sales, and it won’t degrade its performance, folks!
In my opinion, the biggest challenges for VW will be:
1) To differentiate this car from the GTI, R32, and upcoming Volvo C30, the Scirocco must be sleeker and lighter, with better chassis balance. (A true sporting car should have 50-55% of its weight over the rear tires.) It looks like VW is partly there. Yes, front overhand should be minimized, but even better, configure it to be rear wheel drive like the much-missed Porsche 944/968!!!
2) The flowing Alfa Romeo Brera silhouette and the Honda S2000 headlamps may not be entirely original (few things are in the automotive world!), but they are very attractive and timeless. The huge front grill and oft-mentioned front overhang might be considered a drawback, but looks can be deceiving and everyone has his own taste. At least this rendering indicates that the openings are not all laden with ugly chrome. VW must get the sporting look right.
3. Looks are nothing without affordability and real-world useability. Ladening the Scirocco with expensive gadgets, especially troublesome and annoying ones such as BMW and Mercedes have done of late, will drive many would-be buyers to Honda or Subaru dealerships. Similarly, overpricing or undersizing it will deflate sales too. If this is going to be a successful hatchback, it needs better quality and performance than the late Mercedes C320, at a much better price.
4. My suspicion is that the Scirocco will have the same chassis and major mechanical specifications as the new Audi TT, with lesser grade materials to save costs. If people don’t like the VW styling, then spend the extra money for the Audi. But when benchmarking cost, quality, and performance, VW better not think that the Scirocco’s competition is Swedish or German. The real challengers are the WRX, Civic Si, etc.