Comments on: More on the Mercedes Gullwing revival (speculation within) http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:25:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: phil jones http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html#comment-209778 phil jones Fri, 28 Jul 2006 04:15:58 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/12/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within/#comment-209778 How much is the gullwing? How much is the gullwing?

]]> By: Scudetto http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html#comment-192700 Scudetto Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:08:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/12/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within/#comment-192700 Gordon Murray, the designer of the McLaren F1, left McLaren Cars over the SLR, saying it was too bloated and compromised a car to bear the name "McLaren." Meanwhile, a number of years ago, Mercedes purcahsed a 40% stake in McLaren for not only the F1 partnership, but also with the intention that McLaren would build Mercedes' niche cars. Indeed, McLaren built their new Paragon facility to accomodate that sort of road car production. The SLR ended up threatening that whole partnership and investment. If this project does end up with McLaren, it will be more to make good on their mutual investments rather than an interest to make another McLaren-Mercedes road car. Worse, Gordon Murray will not be involved. Gordon Murray, the designer of the McLaren F1, left McLaren Cars over the SLR, saying it was too bloated and compromised a car to bear the name “McLaren.” Meanwhile, a number of years ago, Mercedes purcahsed a 40% stake in McLaren for not only the F1 partnership, but also with the intention that McLaren would build Mercedes’ niche cars. Indeed, McLaren built their new Paragon facility to accomodate that sort of road car production. The SLR ended up threatening that whole partnership and investment.

If this project does end up with McLaren, it will be more to make good on their mutual investments rather than an interest to make another McLaren-Mercedes road car. Worse, Gordon Murray will not be involved.

]]> By: Jon http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html#comment-28445 Jon Fri, 12 May 2006 20:07:58 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/12/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within/#comment-28445 F1 is a difficult sport to tackle from all sides, especially when Ecclestone is riding up your ass. Jon. F1 is a difficult sport to tackle from all sides, especially when Ecclestone is riding up your ass.

Jon.

]]> By: Cartman http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html#comment-28410 Cartman Fri, 12 May 2006 19:09:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/12/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within/#comment-28410 F1 pundits have described the relationship between McLaren and MB as anything less than cheery, especially with the current state of their 06 performances. If this is a McLaren collaboration I don't think I'd get out my checkbook just yet.... F1 pundits have described the relationship between McLaren and MB as anything less than cheery, especially with the current state of their 06 performances. If this is a McLaren collaboration I don’t think I’d get out my checkbook just yet….

]]> By: Sean http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html#comment-28385 Sean Fri, 12 May 2006 18:13:35 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/12/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within/#comment-28385 <i>I guess MB just rounded up…a lot.</i> There's historical significance to naming it the "63" with all the 6.2 liter V8s AMG is making. I guess MB just rounded up…a lot.

There’s historical significance to naming it the “63″ with all the 6.2 liter V8s AMG is making.

]]> By: Scott http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html#comment-28382 Scott Fri, 12 May 2006 18:11:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/12/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within/#comment-28382 My point being that a car enthusiast (website) shouldn't post faulty data, and yes I don't see the point of Merc using its "historical" 63 designation here, anyone who can keep track of Merc's motors is a total genius. :) Cheers! My point being that a car enthusiast (website) shouldn’t post faulty data, and yes I don’t see the point of Merc using its “historical” 63 designation here, anyone who can keep track of Merc’s motors is a total genius. :) Cheers!

]]> By: Jon http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html#comment-28367 Jon Fri, 12 May 2006 18:00:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/12/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within/#comment-28367 BMW’s 3-series should be named as follows: 330i (3.0-liter I-6, 225 bhp) 330si (3.0-liter I-6, 255 bhp) 330ti (3.0-liter twin-turbo I-6, 300 bhp) But, that’s never going to happen, instead they will keep with this ridiculous naming scheme that has nothing to do with the actual size of the engine. Jon. BMW’s 3-series should be named as follows:

330i (3.0-liter I-6, 225 bhp)
330si (3.0-liter I-6, 255 bhp)
330ti (3.0-liter twin-turbo I-6, 300 bhp)

But, that’s never going to happen, instead they will keep with this ridiculous naming scheme that has nothing to do with the actual size of the engine.

Jon.

]]> By: dan http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html#comment-28356 dan Fri, 12 May 2006 17:45:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/12/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within/#comment-28356 be ticked at mb, not the website. Nomenclature doesn't count for anything to manufacturers, just one more way to pull the heartstrings of buyers at the last minute. Who thought there was truth in advertising when the bmw 323 was a 2.5L just to keep sales from the appropriately named 328 from dipping? and wtf is a 335i when it has a 3.0L, regardless of whether it's turboed. Call it the 330T or something. it's not like bmw has a recent history of not labeling a turbocharged car distinctively, given the 330d labels, etc. a new corvette is really a 428 ci, right, despite the 7.0L tag? be ticked at mb, not the website. Nomenclature doesn’t count for anything to manufacturers, just one more way to pull the heartstrings of buyers at the last minute. Who thought there was truth in advertising when the bmw 323 was a 2.5L just to keep sales from the appropriately named 328 from dipping? and wtf is a 335i when it has a 3.0L, regardless of whether it’s turboed. Call it the 330T or something. it’s not like bmw has a recent history of not labeling a turbocharged car distinctively, given the 330d labels, etc.
a new corvette is really a 428 ci, right, despite the 7.0L tag?

]]> By: Jon http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html#comment-28335 Jon Fri, 12 May 2006 17:18:34 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/12/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within/#comment-28335 Its 6208 cc’s, I guess MB just rounded up…a lot. Jon. Its 6208 cc’s, I guess MB just rounded up…a lot.

Jon.

]]> By: Scott http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html#comment-28330 Scott Fri, 12 May 2006 17:15:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/12/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within/#comment-28330 AMG's new 63 V8 motor, for the last time, is 6.2 liters, not 6.3!, LOOK IT UP!!! AMG’s new 63 V8 motor, for the last time, is 6.2 liters, not 6.3!, LOOK IT UP!!!

]]> By: JA http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html#comment-28327 JA Fri, 12 May 2006 17:06:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/12/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within/#comment-28327 Can't wait to see some real pictures of this car. It has my interest peaked. Too bad I'm not nor ever will be filthy rich. Can’t wait to see some real pictures of this car. It has my interest peaked. Too bad I’m not nor ever will be filthy rich.

]]> By: conan http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html#comment-28279 conan Fri, 12 May 2006 15:41:38 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/12/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within/#comment-28279 This gullwing AMG coupe is different from McLaren's P8 mid-engined supercar project. Both will use turbocharged versions of AMG's new 6.3 litre engine. There are two versions of the turbocharged 6.3 litre, codenamed 'Hammer' and 'Hammer II'. The mild boost, 'Hammer I', has 571 bhp and 664 lb ft, is very likely to power the SL63 AMG and probably McLaren's P8. The high pressure version, 'Hammer II', has 707 bhp (or more) and 885 lb ft (reined in to 737 lb ft in first and second gears to save the gearbox). Could probably be used in this AMG's SLR successor. This front-mid-engined coupe from AMG will be the SLR's replacement, but could be priced lower. Whereas the mid-engined McLaren P8 will go head-to-head with the facelifted, 550 bhp Gallardo (2007 or 2008) and the F430's replacement (due end 2008 as MY 2009). This gullwing AMG coupe is different from McLaren’s P8 mid-engined supercar project.

Both will use turbocharged versions of AMG’s new 6.3 litre engine. There are two versions of the turbocharged 6.3 litre, codenamed ‘Hammer’ and ‘Hammer II’.

The mild boost, ‘Hammer I’, has 571 bhp and 664 lb ft, is very likely to power the SL63 AMG and probably McLaren’s P8.

The high pressure version, ‘Hammer II’, has 707 bhp (or more) and 885 lb ft (reined in to 737 lb ft in first and second gears to save the gearbox). Could probably be used in this AMG’s SLR successor.

This front-mid-engined coupe from AMG will be the SLR’s replacement, but could be priced lower. Whereas the mid-engined McLaren P8 will go head-to-head with the facelifted, 550 bhp Gallardo (2007 or 2008) and the F430′s replacement (due end 2008 as MY 2009).

]]> By: Hemidakota http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within.html#comment-28277 Hemidakota Fri, 12 May 2006 15:35:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/05/12/more-on-the-mercedes-gullwing-revival-speculation-within/#comment-28277 SLR GULLWING VERT VIPER FIREPOWER SLR

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