A former African-American crewman who once worked on NASCAR’s Winston Cup circuit has sued the stock car series for race discrimination. Scott was harassed by at least two white motorcoach drivers from different racing teams, including being called “nigger” and an incident where he was confronted by the pair with one wearing a white pillow case over his head imitating a Ku Klux Klansman, according to Reuters.
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08/10, 9:21 AM
posted by:
jeffro
What did he expect? NASCAR is the biggest redneck fest in the world.
08/10, 9:35 AM
posted by:
1952 MG TD
Let me get this straight…
he was allegedly harrassed by the at least two people whos job is to drive the motorhomes on behalf of a team participating in Nascar…. so he sues the entity of Nascar itself.
seems like he is missing a step or two.
1) go after the drivers themselves.
2) go after the teams whop employ the drivers.
wait… I got it…
3) go after the group with the greatest amount of money, which happens to be the same group that cannot afford bad press surrounding racism as they are currently trying to shed that image and make inroads with minority fans as well.
08/10, 9:55 AM
posted by:
Paco
As a general rule, NASCAR sucks. How high can your IQ be if you’re able to derive entertainment from watching cars go around in circles for four hours? Even my dog gets tired of chasing his tale after a few minutes.
08/10, 10:12 AM
posted by:
1952 MG TD
tounge in cheek:
I never said that. I never said that the events never happened. I am sure that racists still exist in this country.
I just cannot see how the organization of NASCAR is responsible for individual employees of individual teams participating within the organization of NASCAR.
But hey, if you’re going to sue, you might as well go for the biggest, richest target with the most to loose from the bad press. Had he gone after the organization directly responsible for hiring the individuals in question (read: the teams for which the motorhome drivers worked) the stakes jsut are not as high and not as likely to settle.
besides, something tells me that a crewman on a NASCAR team is not ‘poor’. who is making the generalizations now?
08/10, 10:17 AM
posted by:
tongue-in-cheek
He’s black. Therefore he’s poor.
08/10, 10:28 AM
posted by:
Arne
“How high can your IQ be if you’re able to derive entertainment from watching cars go around in circles for four hours?”
Do you like soccer? Or American Football? So now I can insult you right back by saying how stupid those sports are.
By telling other people that what they like is dumb, you yourself shout to the world that you yourself are dumb.
08/10, 10:28 AM
posted by:
1952 MG TD
Richard: NASCAR is not the employer. The team these gentlemen drive for is the employer.
The team is a member of NASCAR, but nascar did not hire these men. NASCAR does not sign the paychecks for these men. NASCAR holds no responsibility or culpability or liability in this issue.
08/10, 10:30 AM
posted by:
axel cortez
this shouldnt happen in the 21st century….. crap black yellow or whites we are the same…. stupid ppl
08/10, 10:37 AM
posted by:
teknomusik
Read this Richard: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1365/is_5_35/ai_n8576270
08/10, 10:38 AM
posted by:
teknomusik
Or this: http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2004/May/04_crt_288.htm
08/10, 10:38 AM
posted by:
Jay
Nascar sucks I get bored watching them going around an oval even if it is at 160 mph+
08/10, 10:44 AM
posted by:
1c3d0g
NASCAR does suck indeed.
08/10, 10:49 AM
posted by:
anonymous
Richard, in your example, the mailroom employees are also GM employees, but the motorcoach drivers are employeed by a team that participates in NASCAR, not NASCAR itself. This should be thrown our as another frivolous law suit. As a matter of fact, hold the lawyers responsible for these frivolous law suits. If they lose the case, they lose their license and they, and their client, have to pay for damages. Then we will see a drop in these stupid law suits. If they have nothing to lose, and everything to gain, what’s the risk?
08/10, 10:49 AM
posted by:
Ebonics Major
Why iz ya so vocal in yo’ complaints? I wuz only trying ta do uh pimp-tight job cleaning out da toilets in those motorhomes in the hood
08/10, 10:51 AM
posted by:
Ebonics Major
You don’ know what ya iz jivin’ about. I bet ya don’ even jive ta yo’ ugly wives in yo’ trailer homes at night slap mah fro!
08/10, 11:35 AM
posted by:
what-the
All the same? Take a science class and form your own opinion. You are out of grade school, aren’t you? I am not saying that the physical and ethnic differences make one group better than the other, but to say that we are all the same is just another uneducated statement by someone who gets their information from the enquirer. Look at business, sports, and other areas. Certain ethnic groups excell at certain jobs and activities. And please don’t tell me it’s because of not being given the same opportunities as others because you are black, of hispanic, or any other lame racial excuse. The real racists hide behind the cry of racism. Just like this guy is doing. He is trying to take advantage of a broken system. If you want to be treated as equal, then ACT as an equal. Loser.
08/10, 11:47 AM
posted by:
Ricky Bobby Joey Bob
He probably didn’t fit the NASCAR profile because he wasn’t sleeping with all his cousins and generally being a hater.
08/10, 12:05 PM
posted by:
HALF BLACK/JEW ATHIEST
I hope he wins his law suite. Racism can’t be tolerated in this day and age.
And for the numb nuts who say sue the driver instead of NASCAR. How about this: That’s what you’re supposed to do! If you get harassed by someone who works at a company you sue the company! lol
08/10, 12:08 PM
posted by:
Mikey Robby Ricky
What’s wrong with sleeping with your cousins?
08/10, 12:24 PM
posted by:
teknomusik
Tongue-in-cheek, either you are an imbecile of the highest order or a racist with an ignorance level beyond any measurable scale. I would not rule out your been both.
And to the rest of the people here that share similar views- I think you definately need to look at yourselfs and realise how much of an idiot you truly are.
You not only shame yourselfs but also those of us that are of the same race with you. Do you think racism is something to be proud of? Do you think people should be proud of their war crimes? Do you think people should be proud of acts of genocide?
Do you think we should be proud of the concentration camps?
Do you think we should be proud of what our ancestors did in enslaving a people?
Sorry, but in human history these are all considered at the same level of wrong-doings, and are all morally wrong.
08/10, 12:56 PM
posted by:
Richard
teknomusik, Thank you.
To those who think that NASCAR is immune because the drivers worked for a NASCAR member and not the organization, I think that you need to have a talk with your employer’s EEO officer.
08/10, 12:57 PM
posted by:
ooodaddy
mohammed you are absolutely right all this hate been waisted today on each other when we should be using it against your enemy the jews shut up you goddamn molitaf
****tail tossing, waiting for your virgins ass
08/10, 1:06 PM
posted by:
MENSA
Nascar = white trash
08/10, 1:11 PM
posted by:
Slade
It’s NASCAR – not NASCOON.
08/10, 1:14 PM
posted by:
1952 MG TD
Stephen: I agree 100%. I meant to comment on that one as well, but things came up here at work.
08/10, 1:33 PM
posted by:
Anonymous
damn hicks
08/10, 1:34 PM
posted by:
Tim_s
Don’t feed the troll. That’s all tongue-in-ass is. He’s such a little wanker that if you met him on the street and confronted him about his pathetic comments he’d piss himself and cry to the cops that HE’S being harassed. I didn’t just feed the troll myself. It’s not feeding if it’s true.
Now, I’m against frivolous lawsuits like this. Sue the employers of the drivers, not CRASHCAR. They may not have as much money as the series, but I bet that each team has enough to pay out a good bit. That’s if it happened. If it did, I say the guy gets to have a go at each of the offending drivers sisters. They’ll probably like dark meat better than their brother’s. HA!
There. I managed to offend a large number of people with this one post.
08/10, 1:44 PM
posted by:
teknomusik
Tongue-in-cheek, I apologise for suggesting that you might be an imbelic racist with unimaginable ignorance.
Well now I am not suggesting it- I am stating an obvious fact that you are not just an imbelic racist with unlimited level of ignorance, but a mentally challenged one as well.
08/10, 2:09 PM
posted by:
jtg
Tongue-in-cheek obviously has some sort of personal issue with black people. However, Mohammed, you are worse than he is. You obviously hate all Americans. This means you hate blacks, whites, asians, latinos, etc.. Due to the current world situations, you should probably refrain from posting anti-american remarks on the internet or I will personally alert the US Government to your remarks and your postings. For all we know, you could be one of the missing Egyptian students in the US.
08/10, 2:23 PM
posted by:
Paco
Only the mentally challenged could enjoy watching a car go counterclockwise in a circle for 300 miles…..and believe that an African American is in any way less of a human being.
08/10, 2:24 PM
posted by:
1952 MG TD
jtg, don’t worry about him… looks like he left to catch his plane.
08/10, 2:53 PM
posted by:
Patrick
Yeah Nascar really isn’t helping its reputation here, and another reason why I personally reallllly dont like Nascar.
08/10, 4:15 PM
posted by:
Joanie and Chachie
ANd Mike is a Gay American and look at the prejudice and hatred he has to put up with everyday and he is white
08/10, 4:40 PM
posted by:
Joanie and Chachie
jim in la is obviously a nig
08/10, 5:42 PM
posted by:
Knob Jockey
Why? Have you been bad vandg?
08/10, 5:44 PM
posted by:
ooodaddy
oh mohamed why such rage you must of went out on the front porch and shoot your rifle screaming oobile oobile
and then death to america shame on you. oh and vandg
god is watching you he saw that you used swear words and is very dissappointed in your black ass.
08/10, 5:56 PM
posted by:
Knob Jockey
Chill DUdes! Everyone is pink inside
08/10, 6:08 PM
posted by:
Dr*Manhattan
I bet the bus drivers were jewish as we know how much they hate african americans
08/10, 6:17 PM
posted by:
Dave
who cares?? next
08/10, 6:20 PM
posted by:
The Stig
Smile on your brutha, learn to love one and another right now…
08/10, 6:26 PM
posted by:
zerome
This is getting out of control.
I wish the moderator was able to close this thread.
This is a site about Cars people, and I know that this is related to the car industry and I know people have a right to their opinions but this is not bringing people who have a common passion for cars together.
We should be debating about our opinions with cars which in itself is color blind.
This is horrible.
08/10, 6:49 PM
posted by:
Phil
zerome, I think Leftlane periodically puts up these news threads about race or other sensitive issues in an attempt to spur more debate amongst its posters and attract more permanent posters (and even new ones) to their site. It’s called sensationalism, and it helps out with the advertising so that LLN can rake in the cash. Plus, it is entertaining, and that’s what LLN needs to have users come back to their site again and again. It’s what Geraldo Rivera and Greta Van Susteren do on TV.
08/10, 6:54 PM
posted by:
Penny Tentiary
But I have ad blockers so I can’t see tha ads lol
08/10, 9:03 PM
posted by:
mohamed
“Sean” the only thing i suck is your mums tits. Bet if you looked up the word retard, your ugly mut would be next to it.
08/10, 11:14 PM
posted by:
s-p-a-n-n-e-r
johnny357 dont leave this site. we need more people like you not less. the dumbest racist idiots are always the ones to post first. ignore these idiots.
08/11, 1:12 AM
posted by:
mEnSa POWER?
Nascar is a social event.Also you can’t pigeon-hole those people.A lot of Americans make more money than they can spend and share it with their friends and aquaintances freely.You will find an abundance of people like that at NASCAR.
08/11, 1:32 AM
posted by:
Hip-Hop Is Done To Death
Did you know if you speak Ebonics long enough,even as a lark(for fun or whatever)it will foul up your ability to properly articulate the King’s English?How will that come across at your grad school interview?
08/11, 1:37 AM
posted by:
Hip-Hop Is Done To Death
What grad schools have you ebonics wizards chosen or graduated from?It’s almost like a conspiracy;train you to speak gibberish to disable you from entering a gated community because your inability to communicate at an acceptable grade one elementary school level has pulled the wheels off of your academic future.
08/11, 2:14 AM
posted by:
JJ
What kind of loser is this tongue-in-chek?…..can’t you ban this kind of “people” , I bet he is one of those Americans (80%) not carrying a passport but still having a say about whatever happens in the world….racism sucks, but it is so much alive in the US.
08/11, 9:18 AM
posted by:
Paco
Mensa Power – Let me get this straight…You’re going to judge an entire race of people based on how a small subsect choose to live their lives? By that rationale, should we judge all Caucasian Americans by the actions of the small subsect that choose to abuse the welfare system, particpate in the KKK, and, for the most part, watch NASCAR?
08/11, 9:56 AM
posted by:
Letta
I have to laugh at all these ingorant comments. Mensa Power has been watching too many rap videos. Hip-Hop done to death where are you getting your facts, or has someone brain washed you or have you been smoking something really good to get you to this wonderful Hypothesis. So I guess the surfer DUDES aand valley girls are having a hard time as well…OOH, right Daddy threw a little money at the Dean.
It is also funny to see how some really feel or think..in the words of the prime minister of canada in south park….You Sir are a RACIST..
08/11, 4:07 PM
posted by:
Manster
LOL!!!
This is too funny….
Oh please, everybody knows that NASCAR is the poster child for inbred-Deliverance-loving-trailer park trash. Racist? what a surprise!
08/12, 8:27 PM
posted by:
jimothy
Denny’s did not, and does not, discriminate against black customers. They provide equally poor service to all patrons.
08/14, 2:25 AM
posted by:
Joel
On the race/nationality/whatever issues of Nascar:
Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby starring Sacha Baron Cohen (aka Ali G/Borat)
08/14, 10:12 PM
posted by:
Trevor
“Denny’s did not, and does not, discriminate against black customers. They provide equally poor service to all patrons.” ……………….LMAO !
However, It’s funny to see how many people make decisions about a particular race base on media portrayal.
Black people- How many white people do you really know ?
White people- How many black people do you really know ?
Ok, well how many of you who posted negative comments about another race really know anyone of that race ?
So then what is your assesment of that race based on ?
It seems that you only know what you are told about other races from second hand sources……. which makes you cattle,(3/4 braindead).
The other 1/4 enables you to eat, fart and post crap on message boards.
08/14, 10:15 PM
posted by:
Trevor
By the way, you clowns asking why this man sued NASCAR and not the teams…………..READ THE ARTICLE !
08/18, 6:05 AM
posted by:
Wait A Minute
When I see a mother and two black girls talking to each other in a golf course community grocery store about how some girl they don’t know from adam “scored a record deal”,THEN I know the world mind control machine(hip-hop movement) has effectively colonized EVERYWHERE(penetrated your eggshell minds).
08/18, 6:10 AM
posted by:
Don't Talk To Me.Talk To Oprah
Letta,Oprah doesn’t want your crowd on her show.Jay-Z.Are you for real?Put on a suit and that makes you respectable?
08/18, 6:17 AM
posted by:
Letta Me Inna?
Letta,if you don’t shake that ebonics stuff,you could have a hard time getting admitted to any college or uni.
08/18, 6:31 PM
posted by:
Trevor
“When I see a mother and two black girls talking to each other in a golf course community grocery store about how some girl they don’t know from adam “scored a record deal”,THEN I know the world mind control machine(hip-hop movement) has effectively colonized EVERYWHERE(penetrated your eggshell minds). ”
Ask yourself this:
1) Are you more upset with the fact that these three people you described are commenting on the girls record deal or the fact that they are in the golf course community grocery store ?
2) How do you know that they don’t know this girl from Adam ? I mean are you absolutely sure of this ?
However, I agree that the “world mind control machine” is at work but DO NOT be fooled into thinking it comes from hip hop only. Simply ask yourself or research to see who has the final say so in the release of a particular hip hop,(or any genre of music)piece. If you think it’s just hip hop…..then you have become a victim of the “world mind control machine” yourself.
08/19, 6:57 PM
posted by:
steve thomas
I’ve not read the article, but won’t take it too seriously if I do. When an article mentions “a former African-American crewman”, I wonder what race he belongs to now, and the school that the writer went to.
08/20, 3:50 AM
posted by:
Wait A Minute
I have totally been a victim of the world mind control machine.I will leave it at that for now.A dingbat at a job I held while attending university talked about pimping his old car and actually was serious about recording his own rap record.A white garden variety average kid.Fetal alcohol syndrome or another victim?