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New lawsuit started to give EPA kick in the butt

04/03/2008, 3:09 PM

By paulee

Another lawsuit was filed on Wednesday by 18 states, three cities and 11 environmental groups that aims to force the EPA to regulate vehicle greenhouse gases within 60 days. The lawsuit comes as a result of the federal government agency’s inactivity in the matter over the last year. Early in 2007, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that, under the Clean Air Act, the EPA has the authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles if it deems they are a danger to public health.

In March, EPA administrator Stephen Johnson went on record to say the EPA will start a lengthy public comment process before passing legislation, and the states, cities and groups have had enough. The lawsuit asks the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit for an order that the EPA makes public the work it did on any public health risk estimates and emission reduction proposals for car makers.

On the flip side of the coin, automakers and their supporters say their industry, while only responsible for 20 percent of all greenhouse gas emissions, is the only one subjected to limits. A lawyer told Automotive News that the EPA has been petitioned to regulate other industries as well, while California’s Attorney General implied a ruling for auto industry would serve as a precedent for regulating emissions elsewhere.

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04/03, 3:17 PM

posted by:

jackjimturkey

The EPA is just about useless!

04/03, 3:29 PM

posted by:

shitalker

their goal is to get this **** rolling before bush steps down. not sure if that’s gonna happen, but i’m glad someone is kicking someone’s ass to get something going for the right reason. i’m sure it’s not gonna be simple, so this is gonna be a fun reality show to watch.

04/03, 4:11 PM

posted by:

Kenny W

I don’t see what exactly Bush has to do with this? If anything it would (assuming a Dem is elected) be easier to get this passed after Bush is out of office. Both Hillary & Obama have expressed interest in increasing CAFE requirements & those of the automakers. This step is, in part, nothing more than state grandstanding & political e-dick comparing. Regardless, the EPA is a national government organization and therefore the states have little to no say in what decisions they make.

04/03, 4:19 PM

posted by:

400horseSS

Waste of time,energy,money,web space.

04/03, 4:26 PM

posted by:

mayer_ray_nagin

The combined mental capability of the enviro-whacks is a few neutrons short of an atom.

04/03, 4:38 PM

posted by:

maximus

GAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

04/03, 5:46 PM

posted by:

shaver

There is work to be done on this issue, its important and must be dealt with intelligently and delicately. Unfortunately the govt, the lawyers, and enviro extremsits will make a very expensive huge waste of time out of this and still f it up entirely for the general public.

04/03, 6:33 PM

posted by:

F3INT))AP3X

maximus although crude and slightly childish, I think I have to agree with that 100%

04/03, 7:07 PM

posted by:

G

Ummm Mayer … NO neutrons are required for an atom, although most atoms have neutrons. Goes to show that those (and there are many of you!) of you on LLN who always rail against pollution and carbon emission controls know just about nothing about science, and scientific thinking.

Emissions have to be controlled for more than just global warming, if you care to dispute global warming … That aside, any of you who travel quite a bit will notice that in some of the more polluted cities/regions, the air is just disgusting and heavy air pollution can be an irritant even after just a few hours. There are severe health risks to high pollution levels.

China is a GREAT example…
“The province (Shanxi) is home to Linfen, Yangquan and Datong, the three most polluted cities in China. Life expectancy in Linfen is 10 years below the Chinese national average.”

“The environmental figures out of China, even the official ones, are appalling. More than 400,000 of China’s 1.3 billion people die from air-pollution-related illness each year, according to the Chinese Academy on Environmental Planning.”

I can’t believe all you morons that think the efforts on pollution/emissions controls are a useless waste of time…

04/03, 9:44 PM

posted by:

shitalker

yo G! glad to hear there’s actually someone like you on here. at least you sound like someone with an education who’s in touch with the real world. unlike those ****HEADS over there who think they’re still leading the industry where they’re actually at the very bottom.

ya you ****heads. you!! you people watch your health by drink diet pops and that the environment is there for you to flick cigarettes out of the window while you’re flooring that fossil juice squirting 6 liters of gas sucking chambers polluting the air just to push that big hunk of ****ing waste iron that those fat **** union guys had put together on the days when they’re not all pissed off standing at the picket line to bitch about their salary being too low when they didn’t even graduate from high school in the first ****ing place.

come to think of it, some of you ****heads might even be on a level that’s below those lead toy making, baby killing, dog eating commies over there.

04/03, 10:29 PM

posted by:

murderedout

**** the Democrips and the Rebloodlicans. There all just corrupt gangsters in suits.

04/04, 8:51 AM

posted by:

Fletch

New vehicles, vehicles on the road, all of the above… What the hell are they suing over?

04/04, 9:38 AM

posted by:

mayer_ray_nagin

Damn, G, go find a hairy armpitted ugly pseudointellual skank to bone.

04/04, 10:06 AM

posted by:

RaineMan

I’m glad the auto makers are pointing out that cars on the road only account for 20% of the greenhouse gasses produced.

Has anyone thought about regulating all the construction equipment out there? Giant machines that drink offroad diesel and belch clouds of noxious fumes like no tomorrow? I don’t see any emissions controls there.

04/04, 10:20 AM

posted by:

johnnycanuck

Or any aircraft for that matter.

04/04, 10:34 AM

posted by:

mayer_ray_nagin

They need to regulate cow and sheep asses because both bovine and ovine flatulence contributes more to “global warming” than all the cars and other manmade items that the envirohomos complain about incessantly.

04/04, 12:01 PM

posted by:

global_lightning

Just because the EPA has the authority to regulate CO2, doesn’t mean they have to exercise it. As an example, the President has the authority to use nuclear weapons, but he probably won’t use it unless he has a really good reason (hear that, Kim Jong Il???)

04/04, 2:13 PM

posted by:

Get Real

A single volcano can spew more than people ever will.
China will rule over us one day.

04/04, 5:01 PM

posted by:

jayjc08

Well hey, big businesses just pay huge fines and fees because they don’t mean emission requirements, vehicles are the first thing tree hugger’s point at.

04/04, 6:04 PM

posted by:

maximus

I wanted to sue Walter Peck, Jr Administrator at the EPA, for shutting down the Ecto Containment Unit (storage facility), at the Ghostbuster’s HQ. What a jackass.

04/04, 11:36 PM

posted by:

murderedout

Get Real, you need to “get real”, because the Chinese don’t even have guns(it’s banned in China). Let alone are too scared to get past American citizens cause most America citizens own guns. Second China will fall, and fall hard, just like every communist country does, Remeber what happened to Russia.

04/04, 11:42 PM

posted by:

murderedout

America will always be the superpower, until the government takes the citizens right to bear arms away, which will never happen, because there would be another civil war. China will never rule America. There little people also. Keep dreamin in you’re anti=American corner. America vs China would be like 10,000 Spartans(Americans) vs 10,000 Persians, If you seen the movie 300, you would know what that outcome would be.

04/04, 11:43 PM

posted by:

murderedout

MADNESS? THIS IS AMERICAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

04/05, 7:36 PM

posted by:

Get Real

The EPA is throttling OUR economy. NOT China’s.
By the way…Bill Clinton over-rode all objections and SOLD China advanced missle guidence technology in the 90’s so yes…they will kill us one day with pleasure… using our own technology.

04/05, 7:39 PM

posted by:

Get Real

Oh, and a Chinese soldier will fight like a WWII Russian soldier.
You retreat…you get killed by officers who make sure the army advances.
No ‘objector status’ for you. Only a 3 foot deep hole for your body.

04/05, 11:28 PM

posted by:

murderedout

Bill Clinton never sold the Chinese technology. You been listening to Rush Limbaugh Republican ****stick too much. That’s a typical Republican lie. How about when Bush’s aid Donald Rumsfield said, “the oil in Iraq will pay for the war”? Huh? Never happened! How about the weapons of mass destruction? Never found! Bin Laden? Still in Hiding! If the Chinese make there weapons like there toys, they are in some serious trouble. I bet they would die from there own weapons from the led paint they put on them. LMAO!!!

 
 
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