Comments on: New U.S.-bound VW Phaeton to be smaller, cheaper? http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:37:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: radoman93 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-309136 radoman93 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:20:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-309136 deantj-"OK, how many buyers out there want to secretly sink a lot of money into a car and not have it show?" that is horrible...I happen to be one of these people...if you haven't noticed recently this world has become extremely superficial and the "bling bling" that is being preached is another sign of our social disfunctionality here. Why is it important what someone else thinks of what you drive? Perhaps I was raised differently but others perceptions should not matter as long as I am happy with what I have. As for some the VW Phaeton might be the perfect car not to get followed home in. At the end of the day it is just a badge. deantj-”OK, how many buyers out there want to secretly sink a lot of money into a car and not have it show?”

that is horrible…I happen to be one of these people…if you haven’t noticed recently this world has become extremely superficial and the “bling bling” that is being preached is another sign of our social disfunctionality here. Why is it important what someone else thinks of what you drive? Perhaps I was raised differently but others perceptions should not matter as long as I am happy with what I have. As for some the VW Phaeton might be the perfect car not to get followed home in. At the end of the day it is just a badge.

]]> By: autonutt http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308942 autonutt Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:39:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308942 VW made a big mistake bringing the first Phaeton to the US in long-wheelbase guise only, because the logical marketing plan would have been a shorter-wheelbase step-up model from the Passat.. and a $40K step-up was WAAAY too much! A smaller Phaeton for the US with a longer-wheelbase option would make more sense, but I agree that the Scirocco would have been a wiser choice in the short run. VW made a big mistake bringing the first Phaeton to the US in long-wheelbase guise only, because the logical marketing plan would have been a shorter-wheelbase step-up model from the Passat.. and a $40K step-up was WAAAY too much! A smaller Phaeton for the US with a longer-wheelbase option would make more sense, but I agree that the Scirocco would have been a wiser choice in the short run.

]]> By: Stridder44 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308651 Stridder44 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:15:58 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308651 Im still pissed as hell about the Scirocco. BRING IT TO THE STATES AND NOT THIS FLOP POS PHAETON!! NO ONE CARES ABOUT IT!!! @!#$%!@! Im still pissed as hell about the Scirocco. BRING IT TO THE STATES AND NOT THIS FLOP POS PHAETON!! NO ONE CARES ABOUT IT!!! @!#$%!@!

]]> By: TOZO http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308630 TOZO Wed, 25 Apr 2007 06:24:21 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308630 Coming soon: "three VDUBS UNDER 17 THOUSAND!!!!! ...and one VDUB OVER 71 THOUSAND!!!!" Coming soon: “three VDUBS UNDER 17 THOUSAND!!!!! …and one VDUB OVER 71 THOUSAND!!!!”

]]> By: Hidden_Hunter http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308597 Hidden_Hunter Wed, 25 Apr 2007 02:17:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308597 deantj, people that aren't ego driven are people who don't need their car to say "look at me I spent x amount of dollars on my car" deantj, people that aren’t ego driven are people who don’t need their car to say “look at me I spent x amount of dollars on my car”

]]> By: Veda http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308437 Veda Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:48:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308437 I'd actually get this... used. I’d actually get this… used.

]]> By: maximus http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308405 maximus Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:24:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308405 Kaizen - didn't you see the new commercials "three VDUBS UNDER 17 THOUSAND!!!!!" Kaizen – didn’t you see the new commercials “three VDUBS UNDER 17 THOUSAND!!!!!”

]]> By: Ricardo Head http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308360 Ricardo Head Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:38:01 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308360 In the USA they can easily sell 2000 sciroccos in a month or 12 Phaetons. What a bunch of phucktards. In the USA they can easily sell 2000 sciroccos in a month or 12 Phaetons. What a bunch of phucktards.

]]> By: cwwilson http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308356 cwwilson Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:34:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308356 We're getting this, a car that's already failed on this market instead of the Scirocco? wtf. We’re getting this, a car that’s already failed on this market instead of the Scirocco?

wtf.

]]> By: DialM4Speed http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308352 DialM4Speed Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:26:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308352 Everyone knew this car was going to fail. Who in there right mind would drop $70K on a VW? I've only seen one since it came out. Don't bother making another one just sell your cheap commuters and be happy. Everyone knew this car was going to fail. Who in there right mind would drop $70K on a VW? I’ve only seen one since it came out. Don’t bother making another one just sell your cheap commuters and be happy.

]]> By: snork http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308329 snork Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:22:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308329 I don't see this as solving any of the Phaeton's image/price problems. I personnally loved the Phaeton, but for that price might as well have gotten an Audi A8. It'll be the same thing for this Phaeton...except you might as well get an A6. I thought the whole point of the this car is to have a car that rivals an A8/S-class or 7-series in both size and tech while undercutting 10-20% price. That was the value of this car...it just took a more sophisticated shopper to realize it. I don’t see this as solving any of the Phaeton’s image/price problems. I personnally loved the Phaeton, but for that price might as well have gotten an Audi A8. It’ll be the same thing for this Phaeton…except you might as well get an A6. I thought the whole point of the this car is to have a car that rivals an A8/S-class or 7-series in both size and tech while undercutting 10-20% price. That was the value of this car…it just took a more sophisticated shopper to realize it.

]]> By: Get Real http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308314 Get Real Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:45:12 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308314 They "don't know" if it will be less expensive ????? The guys running VW are retards. Of course they can't lower the price for a car built in a glass building with polished wood floors and a glass multi-story storage-lot building. The building cost too much. VW is Doomed. They “don’t know” if it will be less expensive ?????

The guys running VW are retards.

Of course they can’t lower the price for a car built in a glass building with polished wood floors and a glass multi-story storage-lot building. The building cost too much.

VW is Doomed.

]]> By: CBR2200 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308309 CBR2200 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:50:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308309 I really don't understand VW having a Phaeton at all. VW is the cheap crap from Europe for the US. Why would anyone buy a VW for anything over $35k, seriously? Get an Audi, BMW, MB, etc for that money. At least your neighbors will think you blew some serious cash on your car. ;) The Phaeton looks like a $30k Passat to any non-veedub enthusiast. I know my A4 looks just like a VW so I'm kind of a hypocrite here, but the A4 was waaaaay cheaper than a Phaeton and will at least retain some sort of resale value. I really don’t understand VW having a Phaeton at all. VW is the cheap crap from Europe for the US. Why would anyone buy a VW for anything over $35k, seriously? Get an Audi, BMW, MB, etc for that money. At least your neighbors will think you blew some serious cash on your car. ;) The Phaeton looks like a $30k Passat to any non-veedub enthusiast. I know my A4 looks just like a VW so I’m kind of a hypocrite here, but the A4 was waaaaay cheaper than a Phaeton and will at least retain some sort of resale value.

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308308 A4 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:23:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308308 i agree TOZO, scirocco caniballizing GTI sales but phateon staying away from the A6/A8? Youre a bunch of idiots VW, its a good thing most people dont know the crap you pull or i might have to sell mine. i agree TOZO, scirocco caniballizing GTI sales but phateon staying away from the A6/A8? Youre a bunch of idiots VW, its a good thing most people dont know the crap you pull or i might have to sell mine.

]]> By: TOZO http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308305 TOZO Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:52:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308305 So today, no on Scirocco, but yes on Phaeton. Volkswagen management too dumb! Volkswagen management too dumb! So today, no on Scirocco, but yes on Phaeton.
Volkswagen management too dumb!
Volkswagen management too dumb!

]]> By: Brendino http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308304 Brendino Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:51:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308304 deantj - not everyone wants brand prestige. I mean, most people do and that's why the Phaeton flopped, but the Phaeton is a great car for someone who wants to sink 80K into a car and not draw attention to themselves. That's a decent niche to have, especially if you already own Audi and Bentley (and Porsche, right?) deantj – not everyone wants brand prestige. I mean, most people do and that’s why the Phaeton flopped, but the Phaeton is a great car for someone who wants to sink 80K into a car and not draw attention to themselves. That’s a decent niche to have, especially if you already own Audi and Bentley (and Porsche, right?)

]]> By: bolex http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308303 bolex Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:19:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308303 plus it looks so damn boring. if its gonna be that expensive, especially for a VW, it better look like its worth it. plus it looks so damn boring. if its gonna be that expensive, especially for a VW, it better look like its worth it.

]]> By: Ratman http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308299 Ratman Tue, 24 Apr 2007 03:19:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308299 The reason the old phaeton didn't have good sales was because VW was greedy to charge 80k for it. It would have sold great if it cost mid 50k. The reason the old phaeton didn’t have good sales was because VW was greedy to charge 80k for it. It would have sold great if it cost mid 50k.

]]> By: Fromes http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308297 Fromes Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:55:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308297 a cheaper Phaeton say at the 50k-65k range would still be expensive for a VW a cheaper Phaeton say at the 50k-65k range would still be expensive for a VW

]]> By: Ian http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308296 Ian Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:44:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308296 Sorry I may have worded that comment wrong then. The main idea is that the M3 has always been the "over powered" car and fun to drive. Think of the E46 M3(Straight 6) with a 4 banger or even the E90(currently with the V8) running on four cylinders. Just not the same. Know what I mean? Sorry if you misread anything or if I just didn't do a proper job elaborating my main idea Sorry I may have worded that comment wrong then. The main idea is that the M3 has always been the “over powered” car and fun to drive. Think of the E46 M3(Straight 6) with a 4 banger or even the E90(currently with the V8) running on four cylinders. Just not the same. Know what I mean? Sorry if you misread anything or if I just didn’t do a proper job elaborating my main idea

]]> By: Ian http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308293 Ian Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:36:15 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308293 im talking about todays m3. I work for bmw and have been for years now. im talking about todays m3. I work for bmw and have been for years now.

]]> By: Kaizen http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308292 Kaizen Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:36:04 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308292 Volkswagen does not understand the idea of brand identity. Why are they attempting to turn all of their brands into luxury lines? Volkswagen it the Honda or Toyota of Germany. Why can't they keep it that way. They need to build a plant in the US so it's cheap to build and sell cars. They would eliminate the need to markup the prices of their cars. You can barely find a Passat or Jetta without that fake leather looking crap. And you can barely find a Jetta for under 20K, something that is too small to compete with Accord or Camry and is too expensive to compete with Civic or Corolla, which basically only leaves the Fusion and Mazda 6. The Passat is too expensive to compare to the Camry XLE or TL and there is no point if you can buy a similarly equipped Audi A4 for the relatively same price. And don't even get me started on the quality level... VW is useless. VW needs to learn where your brand/products fit in the market, because their fixed costs in Germany and warranty expenses are eating the company's profits alive. Volkswagen does not understand the idea of brand identity. Why are they attempting to turn all of their brands into luxury lines? Volkswagen it the Honda or Toyota of Germany. Why can’t they keep it that way. They need to build a plant in the US so it’s cheap to build and sell cars. They would eliminate the need to markup the prices of their cars.

You can barely find a Passat or Jetta without that fake leather looking crap. And you can barely find a Jetta for under 20K, something that is too small to compete with Accord or Camry and is too expensive to compete with Civic or Corolla, which basically only leaves the Fusion and Mazda 6. The Passat is too expensive to compare to the Camry XLE or TL and there is no point if you can buy a similarly equipped Audi A4 for the relatively same price.

And don’t even get me started on the quality level…

VW is useless. VW needs to learn where your brand/products fit in the market, because their fixed costs in Germany and warranty expenses are eating the company’s profits alive.

]]> By: Madcapp http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308291 Madcapp Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:06:43 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308291 That's too funny Ian, how old are you? The original M3 did come with A 2.3l "4 banger" as you put it. And there's a lot of people who feel that is the best M3 that's ever been made. And if you're following the 1 series, there's a lot of people who want the special lightweight "4 banger" out of the E90 320si transplanted into the 1 series to make a 120si, as a successor to the original M3. That’s too funny Ian, how old are you? The original M3 did come with A 2.3l “4 banger” as you put it. And there’s a lot of people who feel that is the best M3 that’s ever been made. And if you’re following the 1 series, there’s a lot of people who want the special lightweight “4 banger” out of the E90 320si transplanted into the 1 series to make a 120si, as a successor to the original M3.

]]> By: 04focus http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308288 04focus Tue, 24 Apr 2007 01:41:58 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308288 I think it's a better idea for them to base the new Phaeton on the A6. maybe that'll make it a $55k VW. I think it’s a better idea for them to base the new Phaeton on the A6. maybe that’ll make it a $55k VW.

]]> By: Adrio http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308284 Adrio Tue, 24 Apr 2007 01:31:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308284 The A8 can get away with conservative looks. The Phaeton cant. I hope VW realizes that before they drop another bland-mobile on the streets. The A8 can get away with conservative looks. The Phaeton cant. I hope VW realizes that before they drop another bland-mobile on the streets.

]]> By: 0GSharK6 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308283 0GSharK6 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 01:29:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308283 Buying a $70k+ Volkswagen would be somewhat on par with buying a $70k+ Chrysler.. who would do it? Very few people.. Buying a $70k+ Volkswagen would be somewhat on par with buying a $70k+ Chrysler.. who would do it? Very few people..

]]> By: Ian http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308281 Ian Tue, 24 Apr 2007 01:24:30 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308281 lol WHY??? It's like BMW putting a 4 banger in their M3!!! Keep the expensive cars expensive and the mid grade cars mid grade and cheap, well... cheap. lol WHY??? It’s like BMW putting a 4 banger in their M3!!! Keep the expensive cars expensive and the mid grade cars mid grade and cheap, well… cheap.

]]> By: Madcapp http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308279 Madcapp Tue, 24 Apr 2007 01:20:12 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308279 Oh great, a cheapened up flagship. I'll take 2. Oh great, a cheapened up flagship. I’ll take 2.

]]> By: Renton http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308276 Renton Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:49:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308276 I don't think I like this new CEO. I don’t think I like this new CEO.

]]> By: bolex http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308275 bolex Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:25:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308275 hey deantj, nice LOL hey deantj, nice LOL

]]> By: F451 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html/comment-page-1#comment-308271 F451 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:15:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-us-bound-vw-phaeton-to-be-smaller-cheaper.html#comment-308271 Smart move on VW's part. Smart move on VW’s part.

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