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Next BMW M3 CSL to flex 470hp, 186mph top speed

07/16/2008, 11:51 AM

By paulee

The next generation of the BMW CSL (for Coupe Sport Lightweight) is due to debut for the 2010 model year, along with a freshened up ‘run-of-the-mill’ M3. The new car will follow the CSL’s less is more philosophy and go on a diet that will include deleting some of its creature comforts. Unlike previous CSLs, the new car will feature a bigger power bump to its 4.0-liter V8 as well.

The CSL will be a vehicle for the hardcore, getting rid of its navigation system and radio, along with all weighty speakers and the air conditioning system, as per Germany’s AutoZeitung reports.

To boost the power-to-weight ratio further, the engine is also getting a generous bump in power, expected to make 470 horsepower versus the standard car’s 420, although it’s not known if the freshened M3 will get a bump itself. The V8 seems to be capable of it, as it has already been fettled to make 485hp in the ALMS M3 racecar. The newfound muscle, along with various aerodynamic and suspension tweaks, will grant the car higher performance, including a 186mph top speed and a 0-62mph sprint in under 4.5 seconds.

Carbon fiber will again be found throughout the car, including in the hood, roof, side panels, rear bumper and front spoiler. A slightly less costly and elegant material will be used to line the trunk: cardboard.

Look for the 2010 BMW CSL to make its debut at the 2009 Frankfurt Motor Show. Pricing is expected to be the equivalent of $143,000, with only 100 units being made.

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07/16, 11:58 AM

posted by:

jumpoffit

nice- but for the price? why not just get the GT-R even with the dealer mark up, it’ll still be cheaper…. i just wanted to start a debate between the BWM and Nissan people now :)

07/16, 12:05 PM

posted by:

jayjc08

oh no, not another GT-R debate…

The performance really surprises me, but it has yet to sink in that even those figures seem a little tame for 470 hp.

07/16, 12:12 PM

posted by:

Fletch

Cool stuff. $143k is way to high though. No more than $79k base if this is going to be sold in NA.

07/16, 12:28 PM

posted by:

foster1

Hey Left Lane News Get your s**t right. First of all the Current Manual M3 hits 0-60 in 4.1 and in some testing 3.9 in the sedan. With the DCT transmission that shed’s off the 0-60 time by .4 second’s. I personally ran ta time of 4.4 seconds in a coupe back in April. The CSL has not been run anywere yet and no offical numbers have been relised so how do you figure that 4.5 is correct. BMW currtly under rate’s the M3 at 4.6 seconds for the M3. Just like they do on all of there cars. But your 4.5 is made up of bull S**t

07/16, 12:30 PM

posted by:

foster1

And the price will is way off. a fully loaded M3 is 70,000 us right now. THE CSL should only be 10 to 15 grand more. 145 thousand will get you a big bore class completly modified for racing track use. So again do some research be for you print this BS

07/16, 1:39 PM

posted by:

ktulu

serious

07/16, 1:48 PM

posted by:

Impulsive

But look at it … pathetic … like a 90’s Civic. The GTR drops its poo on this lump. What a joke.

07/16, 1:49 PM

posted by:

LS7

Foster1: SHUT THE F.UCK UP. If you have done any kind of performance driving, times vary for 0-60mph runs. It depends on the tarmac condition, elevation, wind, even how much and what kind of fuel they have put in the vehicle. Not to mention driver quality. Most of the time, the car maker will UNDERSTATE numbers, so nobody’s feelings are hurt when they buy one. Learn the f.ucking industry first, before you open your f.aggot mouth on here.

07/16, 1:49 PM

posted by:

MugenSentraKen

===>>Simply put, $140,000 period would get me a used OR brand new 911Turbo.

07/16, 1:50 PM

posted by:

Andrewthecarguy

foster1:
dude 3.9 to 60 in the E90 M3 sedan is bull s**t, so before calling out LLN, get your s**t right.
That said, LLN, come on, those numbers are waaaay wrong.

07/16, 2:34 PM

posted by:

foster1

^LS1 and ANdrew I can tell that you are bolth ****ing someone at LLN. Also you have no Idea of what the **** your taking about I put a spreed on the numbers. I Don’t think that you work for any auto maker LS7 so maybe you should listen or just take note to some one who does and also someone who works for BMW. I think I would know. SO your comment means ****.
AND AGAIN NO OFFICAL NUMBER FOR THE CSL YET SO HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN LLN”S NUMBER”S AND PRICING FOR A CAR THAT HAS NOT been PRICED YET!

07/16, 2:36 PM

posted by:

foster1

CAR AND DRIVER= M3 sedan ran a time of under 4 second’s and Motor Trend ran a time of 4.3 second’s and a time of 4.6 seconds given your track differencs (temp ext) It is faster than BMW factory said. Also not every auto maker put’s higher time’s on there cars. Many have clamied bull ****.

07/16, 2:38 PM

posted by:

foster1

ANd andrew I am sure you know this by Driving on yourself I am sure?? Let me ask you a Question since you know so much. What is the Hours power and Tq band gear ratio and later G’s on the New M3. Tire size lbs of air. Do they use Nitrogen or normal Comopressed air in the tires. What is the persice rpm to shift what is the red line what is the EDC do DTC DTS and Power and Sport button’s do. ? Answer me these things or shut the **** up.

07/16, 2:39 PM

posted by:

foster1

one yourself^

07/16, 3:03 PM

posted by:

xyunya

If only 100 units will be made, they are made for US market

07/16, 3:33 PM

posted by:

Z06ified

BMW is on drugs with that price. A Corvette Z06 will dominate an M3 CSL in every performance category, while offering all of the creature comforts (and more) that the CSL will delete, and still weighing less, for less than half the CSL’s price. Hell, for the price they’re talking, you could step up to the ZR-1, still save $40k and have all the creature comforts. The ZR-1 makes the M3 CSL look like it has the performance of a Pinto by comparison.

07/16, 5:27 PM

posted by:

Kaizen

Please, for $140K, I’d be driving a 911 Turbo, Gran Turismo, Aston Martin Vantage or a CPO Gallardo, not a un-distinguishable 3 series coupe.

07/16, 5:32 PM

posted by:

acoats

Foster1,

Judging by your “detailed” knowledge of the new m3, I would venture a guess that you must be an engineer for the company. I mean how else could you come across such top-secret information. Oh I know, because you are either a salesman or service advisor for a dealership, and you recieved a technical bulletin on the car. Your understanding is no greater than any one person with access to the internet, and a BMW quoted time a 4.5 is probably right since the standard car is 4.6-4.7 and BMW is ALWAYS conservative with performance figures. Don’t come on here talking tough unless yuo truly have a technical background and aren’t just another BMW marketing douche.

07/16, 6:30 PM

posted by:

foster1

ACoats do you read what I wrote. I said was that there has not been any offical number’s relased from BMW for the 0-60 time for the CSL. So how could LLN say that the 0-60 time is what there saying it is. So why don’t you read it instead of what ever the **** it is that you do. And I would venture to guess that you know nothing. All I was trying to do was add some correct information. So if you have nothing to add but bitching that you didn;’t know something then put a comment up your ass

07/16, 7:20 PM

posted by:

MugenSentraKen

===>>Simply put, $140,000 period would get me a used OR brand new 911Turbo..

07/16, 8:05 PM

posted by:

Need4SSpeed

Thank you ZO6ified… I was just coming on here to post that… You beat me to it… LOL jumpoffit… I would have done the same thing…

Yeah a 140k BMW M3? No thank you….

07/16, 8:33 PM

posted by:

MB63AMG

I hope it comes in that M3 forestry green!! : )

07/17, 7:32 AM

posted by:

Rotman

It’s 70000 GBP and converted that makes 140000 USD. I reckon it won’t cross the pond just as the E46 M3 CSL didn’t.

07/17, 9:06 AM

posted by:

acoats

Foster1,

You are just pissed that I called you out for not knowing anything greater than what anyone with web access could fnid out for themselves. I agree that the car probably won’t cost over $140k, and that the performance figures are very conservativen and that BMW hasn’t put out anything official yet. But the fact remains that your “specialized knowledge” comes from brochures and technical newsletters, but the sad thing is that you, like almost everyone else one here, throws figures and technical info around without the faintest idea of how things work on an engineering level. Although this car is getting bashed by the z06 gt-r crowd on nurburgring times, BMW has always been able to do more with less. Go look at the e46 CSL and tell me that this new model won’t be able to keep up with the supercars of today around any track…

 
 
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