Sweet.

Now this is the kind of good news I like to read about…

Zee Germans feeling the heat from the CTS-V possibly?

Just as long as they remember to have enough hooks for the tow trucks to grab on to to hoist them onto the flatbeds, BMW owners will be satisfied. Otherwise, the rest of us non-ignorant, American car buyers will continue to head to our Cadillac and Buick dealers for our next high quality, bulletproof, beautiful vehicles.

BMW’s are for yuppie pigs and status seeking ignorant wannabes. Good luck with your POS.

Buy American. Buy GM.

BMW has lost the hp race to Cadillac, time to pack it up and head back to Bratville with your tail hung snugly between those girly, miniskirt wearing thighs.

This is GM Country. An American Revolution

BMW: More complex, more expensive, unreliable, spends its life in the shop until its ready for the junkyard just in time for the warranty to expire.

Yup, this new car should continue that BMW tradition!

Unreliably Consistent or Consistently unreliable? Take your pick, grab the keys and get ready for the misery.

NMOFGM, is bankruptcy over? Or GM still hanging in the courts?

I wonder if V10 without twin screws would be sufficient?

Some re-ban NMOFGM – “it” is getting really annoying, and the fact that “it” is spamming the comments is not helping.

The only thing more overpriced and more unreliable has got to be Audi-VW

The CTS-V is already 10 steps above this POS. The Pontiac G8 is more of a challenge here and everyone already picked the pontiac as the vehicle BMW could never build. BMW should stick to building minis and Buick wanabes, at least then they would be in a realm of engineering and design that they can compete with instead of embarrassing themselves once again with this overpriced junk.

NMOFGM…do you need a doctor???

Oh well, so much for intelligent convesation……I will now return to my other sign in name “More Oil For Yugo”

Fanboys…

I hear GM has their own version of KERS only it involves coasting into bankruptcy and converting tax dollars into further unemployment.

@ Borat

That’s what motivates the M5 right now (NA V10 making roughly 500hp).

You can thank the CTS-V for this move.

Ha! BMW is just trying to find more ways to save operation cost and charge more for their cars, Although i believe this is a great idea and will lure more buyers into thinking they can drive faster because they have twin turbochargers on their cars. The insurance companies will hate insuring these things.

For once, I think I can agree with NMOFGM on the G8’s superiority over the M5 but who wouldn’t want the M5?

Anyways, I wonder why BMW wants to squeeze a TT-V10 into this thing. I imagine a twin turbo V8 would be more than sufficient to get the power they want. But whatever, not like I can ever afford to buy one.

The HP war ain’t over yet!! This is good news, keep em coming!!

Need more Oil… your stupid…..

Is this news or pure speculation?

05Z88Path, this makes it out of my price range.

Need more oil for GM :rofl: Your ignorance is at the self-parody level. I’d normally be angry but you make it humorous. Whether or not you’re serious, makes for a good show.

Will you have to jump out of it like the F1 drivers do to avoid getting electricuted?

Sorry, oil for GM, I love American cars and GM performance cars but it will be a long, long time before you can say the word Cadillac and BMW in the same breath. Cadillac is not known and has not been known to be a brand of premium luxury as the likes of BMW, Mercedes Benz, Audi. These names are high-class, prestige, and synonmous with luxury. You know it. Cadillac’s interiors are definitely improving especially with the CTS, but there’s just no way you’re going to compare those cars in any way shape or form to any BMW. Who cares if your caddy can run a straight line 1/10th second quicker or has 60 more HP? Any idiot can cram xxx amount of HP into their cars. BMW has never been about that. They’ve been about the total package, driving dynamics, balance. That with quality, safety, innovation and history.

Quality and driving feel are the two primary differences between the two in my opinion. Outright #s are important but mean little in the way of determining which is the better car.

And again the argument that BMWs are unreliable can be tossed out the window. I’ve owned 7 BMWs and none have ever been hooked up to tow trucks. I know some Cadillac/GM people who can’t say the same. Namely my friend’s dad’s Z06 is on it’s second tranny. And that car is babied. Their new CTS-V also just went in for a new tensioner. Both random problems, perhaps. Just don’t think any car is invincible, especially not your GM cars.

i don’t know why you guys even respond to him…i see that name and just breeze past, it’s a waste of time to read anything he says…and a bigger waste of time to craft a response…you’re just feeding the troll…don’t be fooled into thinking you’ll have an intelligent conversation…

please re-ban this guy already…

Well said bmwmpower. You took the words right out of my mouth.
This M5 will be one to remember!!!

NMOFGM, I wouldn’t go as far as calling you an idiot, but you’re close! You must be from the mid-west? Oil for GM will come from KY Jelly. Enjoy the ride!

“E\veryone already picked the Pontiac G8 as the vehicle BMW could never build”

..and GM can build no longer.

I just hope the new 5-Series won’t look similar to the one depicted in the picture. I like the current 5-Series and to see it transform into something nasty would be a heartbreaker.

I remember reading somewhere that BMW and Benz officials were calling the premium-marque horsepower wars “over.” I guess that was a bluff.

@bmwmpower

What you said is so true.
But about Audi, I noticed that it did less than stellar in the recent Initial Quality Study from J.D. Power. So, I’m not sure if I would put Audi in the same class as BMW or MB…

@TL
Don’t sleep on Audi

bmwmpower (aka BMW fan boy):

Cadillac = Standard of the World.

BMW = Bayerische Motoren Werke

BMW got their a$$es handed to them with the new CTS-V. They are now playing catchup with this new M5. There are LOTS of current M5 owners switching to the CTS-V, and not looking back.

’nuff said.

CADDY-V.
“You can thank the CTS-V for this move.”

i`d rather say, u can thank Audi´s RS6 and his biturbo powered V10 for this move.

I’ve Seen it already

Jokes xx :p well i’ve seen the covered car on the road

@ Z06ified , “Cadillac = Standard of the World. ” you really believe that ?

so now instead of just being 30 grand more, it’ll be twice as much as the CTS-V..

You know guys, I like NMOFGM. I actually missed him. Where have you been, you awesome bastard?!

Seriously, he writes some of the funniest stuff out there. Much better than most comedy films and TV. He’s the equivalent of a crazy KKK guy running around Manhattan-He can’t cause any trouble, and everyone but he knows he’s a joke.

As for actual stuff, it seems I’m the only person I know who prefers normally aspirated engines in my Bimmer. I love the fact that they can really wring power out of a straight six, and have been doing so for thirty years. The idea of a forced induction V6 in the next M3 is going too far, I think.

As soon as they “1-up” the RS6, the RS6 will be right back to “1-upping” them. Audi is way ahead on this one. Sorry BMW.

@A4
i would love to see Audi 1 up this one, but where one earth are they gonna get those numbers from?
Id say a murc or a veyron engine would be stellar if it can handle the power.
Hey, anybody notice that NMOFGM is gone again? Maybe he took elviososa’s advice and went to see a
doctor? Either that or he is being hired as GM’s new president of brand promotion. I also dont think you can truly call the CTS-V american anymore, i mean, it was mostly developed in Germany. How can they claim that it was Made in Germany, but is an american car?Just think what MB is gonna 1 up Audi with and have happy thoughts for the rest of the day.

does BMW use a mechanical KERS or an electrical one?

I would choose a CTS-V over an M5 any day. To say the CTS-V is not worthy competition for the M5 is just complete and total ignorance. I guess if the holier-than-thou Bimmer Boys want to believe they are invincible then more power to them, but back here on Planet Earth the CTS-V keeps on racking up win after win. And to Need more oil for GM, just shut up!

Just like the F1 drivers, will you have to lose some weight to make the KERS system more efficient

It’s good to see more F1 technology (albeit a brief bit of technology) going into the road cars. At least one manufacturer has made use of the money spent on such a project.

Wonder if Ferrari or Mercedes will be next?

CADDY-V, do you even believe what you just typed? The E39 M5 had 400 HP, the E60 500 and the next one will have 600. Thank Cadillac? Uh, okay.

Hope The CTS-V enjoyed the view at the top. Better rack up all the wins it could get before the usual suspects get refreshed and spank that brash American like cops on Rodney King.

Now seriously guys, I think NMOFGM is a guy that’s making fun of us by saying ridiculous things and laughing out loud when we reply.

What do you think?

Where do I begin? Let’s start by saying that BMW builds some of the greatest engines in the world. That’s not my opinion, that’s fact. Just look at the list of International Engine of the Year Awards and you see BMW all the time. When was the last time GM built an engine worthy of that title? Oh yeah, NEVER.

You don’t have to watch Transformers to see a Camaro get it’s ass kicked, just pick up an issue of Car & Driver and you’ll see the Mustang beats the new Camaro with 100 less HP. Not only does the new car come in 2nd place, it took GM almost 4 years to produce that result. How long will it take them to make something that can stand up to the competition across town or across the world?

NMOFGM, you really are the last diehard GM fan.

“Cadillac = Standard of the World”

Bahahahahaha!!!

But KERS is gone from F1! BMW recently announced that they drop KERS from their cars for the rest of the season. They will use gained time and resources to improve aerodynamics. There’s hardly anyone left using KERS, as those who did are at the bottom of the table.

loco667. What do you know? The next M5 is having a KERS. (with a questionmark…)

Im 100% sure the only people saying the CTS-V is a better car then the M5 are Americans because its made in America (if that’s what you want to believe).

To bad:-(Naturally aspirated engines are more fun,because of the high rpm. Turbo engines give max hp at a lower rpm………………not fun.

@ 123sub…

I think you’ve got that switched around. Turbos do their best work at HIGHER and not LOWER rpms. Most of the turbo cars I’ve driven need to be kept revving high if you plan on winning any races.

Need more oil for GM, you are a disgrace. That is all.

Oh and before i forget, the cts-v you are talking about is 5 years newer than the e60 m5. don’t use m5 and cadillac in the same sentence again please and thank you.

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@edbrat: I found that if you take NMOFGM as being sacastically cynical, he actually makes sense!!!

When Road and Track did the comparison between the M5 and the CTS-V, the Caddy was like .1 seconds faster around the track (Buttonwillow or Road America) which speaks volumes about the M5’s platform in comparison to the CTS-V.

*facepalm*

NMOFGM

- You sly fox you, where have you been? I’ve been awaiting your witty comebacks and overly-ignorant tomfoolery. You crazy bastard you. Come here and give me a hug!

Cadillac = Standard of the World.

BMW = Outdated, overratted, overpriced crap.

Everyone would rather drive a GM vehicle and for them, there is nothing better than a Cadillac.

GM. AN American Revolution

hp

m5
500

cts-v
556

base price

m5
$85,500

cts-v
$58,575

0-60

m5
4.8

cts-v
3.9

these are facts.
personally i am suprised. more that that- shocked the CTS-V is a better deal, but seriously, what would you rather show up to at a nightclub. A cadillac or BMW?

i find it hilarious that bmw is wasting time on shoehorning a twin turbo v10 into an m5 while they cant even make a mini cooper that wont fall to pieces. prioritizing much?

To Need more oil for GM, toh0705a, MHW, CADDY-V, and ZO6ified:

Die painfully okay? Prefearbly by getting crushed to death in a
garbage compactor, by getting your face cut to ribbons with a
pocketknife, your head cracked open with a baseball bat, your stomach
sliced open and your entrails spilled out, and your eyeballs ripped
out of their sockets. ****ing bitch

I would love to kick you hard in the face, breaking it. Then I’d cut
your stomach open with a chainsaw, exposing your intestines. Then I’d
cut your windpipe in two with a boxcutter.
Hopefully you’ll get what’s coming to you. ****ing bitch

I really hope that you get curb-stomped. It’d be hilarious to see you
begging for help, and then someone stomps on the back of your head,
leaving you to die in horrible, agonizing pain. Faggot

Shut the **** up f aggot, before you get your face bashed in and cut
to ribbons, and your throat slit.

Isn’t the internet great. It allows ****heads like yourself to say **** that would, in real life
get your head cracked open.

Hopefully you’ll suffer the same fate ****ing ****.

Please turn to the loaded gun in your drawer, put it in your mouth, and pull the trigger,
blowing your brains out. You’ll be doing the whole world a favor. ****bag.

I would love to smash your face in until it no longer resembled anything human, faggot.