Wow! I wonder how much time that will shave off their “ring” time.

0.4 of a second?

Hmmm, Doesn’t the Porsche 911 Turbo have launch control??? Does that system have to be replaced after each use? Well done Nissan, way to ‘beat’ Porsche!!!

And does this mean the V-Spec wont get it anymore either? This could mean it will lap the ‘ring only as fast as a prius…

.4 seconds sounds a bit optimistic but, at least it’s still less time than having to replace your transmission. I guess the difference in price between the GT-R and the 911 Turbo, is the premium you pay for the joy of getting from 1st to 6th without catastrophic failure.

These things are suppose to be figured out during product testing and most of the time even before that. Why even have this feature if it is going to ruin the tranny…. unless of course it was just to get impressive launch times and not well thought out.

nissan being nissan

So it works on a 25k Cobalt SS and not on a… well, who knows how much some guys paid, GT-R. Did they bring that one up in Washington this week?

Spin those tires rich people!! Doesn’t it feel good?!

I don’t think it will greatly effect lap times for the car. That is, unless if drivers rely on Launch Control to run laps for a standing start.

Otherwise, don’t expect the GT-R35 to win many drag races as the LC knocks about one whole second off the 0-60 time.

Over all the mission of the GT-R35 was to be the best course racer it could be. LC was never really necessary.

Also any GT-R35s made for the 2009 model year will be extra special collectibles above the Vspec, I’d wager.

Hmmm, that’s okay. I would still take one w/o this feature…..

Sure, having a feature you can’t use makes it collectible. Right. Maybe they should stick a JATO pack on a limited run of Aveos and sell them for the price of a Vette.

=========>>LOL johnnycanuck…but what’s a JATO?

Jet-fuel assisted take off- a rocket in other words. Here, I plucked this off Wikipedia…

The JATO Rocket Car is a famous urban legend that relates the story of a car equipped with JATO units that is later found smashed into a mountainside. This story is often given as an example of a Darwin Award; however it appears to be apocryphal, with no basis in fact. The legend was tested in 2003 on the Discovery Channel show MythBusters. They replicated the scene and the thrust of the JATO with some commercially-available amateur rocket motors. The car did go very fast, outrunning the chase helicopter, but nowhere near the 300 mph (500 km/h) reported in the original story, and failed to become airborne.

THey got their Ring Record
Got their Motor Trend Car of the Year
I think they proved their point or whatever
The’ve recouped their cost
It did elevate the brand, I guess
DrFill

i think they did a running start for their ring time record when it was shown in the cars unveiling video on the GTR website, not 100% sure on that but thats what i remember

The record is for fastest time completing a lap
The record says nothing about from a standing start
That isn’t the fastest way to complete a lap
DrFill

I was wondering why I saw three GT-R’s in the sevice bay when I drove past that Nissan dealer on my way to work!…

EPIC FAIL

======>>VWgrouP, we all grown folks. We don’t have to exaggerate.

I wonder, will they increase the official 0-60 time in the specs?

Porsche introduced launch control on their (997)GT2 model. Second car to have it will probably be the revised 997 Turbo next year.

BTW, Porsche DOES NOT voice you’re warranty for using it. Then again, they know how to build transmissions that actually last. Something that most Japanese haven’t figured out yet.
Way to go Nissan. Instead of coming up with a solution to the problem…give up.

Hello, welcome to Nissan Customer Service.

Press 1 for price quotations
Press 2 for expansion plans including Chrysler takeover rumors

For all other questions including faulty trannies-please hang up.

You guys do know what GT-R stands for right????

Get Transmission – Replaced….LOL

Nissan always having transmission problems

^LoL

Leave it to the Japanese to fock up a car with yet more and more reliablity and quality problems. Japcrap to its finest.

Relaly, the only car that is built for pulling hole shots is a Corvette or the new Camaro. Everyone knows GM is the only company who can build a reliable car with high performance. Everything else is too fragile for anything but driving Miss Daisy jaunts to the grocery store.

@nmofgm, before you go shooting your load prematurely (again), talking about reliability and performance, you might want to wait until next spring to see if GM can afford to build a Malibu, let alone a Corvette or Camaro.

If the consumer demands it, GM will build it. The Malibu is the hottest selling midsize sedan on the planet. Oh and before you go off blabbing about the Camry, I hate to burst your bubble but the Camry sales are false once you figure out that the japs base their numbers on the amount of cars they make, not how many they sell. If you were smart enough to understand, you would realize that actual Camry sales are about 1/10th that amount.

Wake up people. GM cars are the hottest thing right now and they have put out nothing but class leaders once yopu get past those biased ignorant focks who dare call themselves Americans.

The GT-R is weak. It’s fragile. It’s just another cheap ass, tin piece of crap from Japan. maybe if the drivetrain weren’t made from recycled Coca-Cola cans, it would be as strong as the one in a Chevy Aveo. Keep trying boys, Americans are getting a huge laugh out of your ****ups.

First, I don’t recall mentioning the word Camry in any post I’ve made on this forum. Second, since the point of my comment was completely lost on you, I’ll spell it out for you, even as smart as you are. If GM does not get some dosh soon, they will not be building Corvettes, Camaros or “the hottest midsize sedan on the planet”. Selecting a Malibu to make my point was purely random, not a slight at that particular car. Got that now, genius?

Chevy aveo has the worst mpg of its class. What do you drive NMOFG.

Hmm.. the Chevy Aveo (made in Korea) uses an Aisin transmission (made in Japan).

And GM transmissions can be found in BMW’s and Volvo’s. About the only thing that IS reliable on those cars. And Aisin builds the transmissions for GM, but they are still GM designs. Aveo’s are the most reliable cars in their class btw, so your argument is pointless

Launch Control will always be harsh on a transmission, it’s not like it’s recommended to be used all the time even on cars like Ferrari or Porsche. Same with manual cars, dropping the clutch is a pretty excruciating event for the clutch, the synchros and the gearbox itself.

I’m guessing that Nissan did **** up by not building a strong enough transmission to handle this at least sometimes, but if this is not an official “feature” of the car, one can’t really bitch them for doing anything wrong, except for not disabling this non-feature earlier.

Need more oil for GM,

I don’t think that BMWs use GM sourced boxes, or even a model close to it, even if they were to share suppliers. As far as I know, BMWs generally use ZF or Getrag boxes, which is not something you see too often on GM cars (except maybe the old CTS-V).

“As of 2005, Aisin AW surpassed General Motors Powertrain Division as the largest producer of automatic transmissions in the world” Seems strange that it would be a GM design, and Aisin builds it. Toyota is a 51% owner of Aisin, and Toyota has a hand in most designs. Aisin transmissions are in every OEM around the world. I still don’t see how GM ‘designed’ it.

oops

I guess that’s why the ZR-1 didn’t come with launch control – GM knew it would trash the transmission and kill the clutch.

This system probably works more durably with a traditional automatic with a torque converter to absorb shocks in the drivetrain.

Not sure how this can be, since Car and Driver made no mention of how the launch control was hidden, and did 15 launches during their test and it didn’t mess up at all.

Doesn’t matter. The GT-R posted the same times in C&D Chevy ZR-1.
Funny fact too, the GT-R costs $30,000 less and performs just as well with 158 horsepower . Damn those Japs.

And Need for GM loser, why don’t you change your name to “Need more money for GM” cause that’s what your pathetic company begged for this week and was properly denied so it can die.

sprockkets . . . Toyota, Honda and Nissan also went hat-in-hand to the British government for a a bailout . . .

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/transport/3469138/UK-car-industry-presses-Government-for-aid.html

Everyone needs help at this point. This seems to be a sticky situation for all invovled. NMOFGM aside, we can all work together, or we can all sink together.

hmm maybe the next GT-R design should be smaller, and lighter more like the R34 and have a more durable, true manual option… and NMOFGM… you are a clown…

Yes, but will Toyota and Honda be out of money this coming year like the US Big three?

Chrysler deserves to die. Why? If for any one reason, it is for making the Neon. Biggest POS ever made here in the states.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA…thats great. So now the smokescreen begins to dissapate. Soon Mythbusters will have a GT-R special where they run performance tests and show its a huge fake. They will then reveal it’s actually powered by a JATO, and can’t physically produce the claimed numbers with the TT V-6 engine.

Oh and need more MONEY for GM..you’re wrong about Aveo. Its a POS

Something else not mentioned here, is that customers had to sign a waiver stating that turning off VDC would void your warranty since that gets rid of all the protection for the transmission. It’s just another case of stupid people that sign waiver documents then whine when it happens.

Oh well. Add .4 of a second to your time. BFD.

“Ooooohhh, but then the ZR-1 is better!”

It better be for costing 30,000 more!!!

I expected this from the beginning. Dual clutch transmissions cannot hold up to abuse like traditional manual transmissions. Nissan needs to fit the R35 with a real manual transmission. The R32-R34 all had real manual transmissions and none of them had these problems. The ZR1 has a manual transmission and spanks the GTR in every performance category. I hope Nissan is wise enough to put a true manual in the Spec V. Also, BMW’s new dual clutch transmissions are also having problems. I’m beginning to notice a pattern.