wow

its nice but it kinda just falls short of expectations

. . . The engine bay has been largely ignored . . .
this angers me.

It’s a special car, it drives itself, more tech than anything out there under $200,000. Awesome!

over hyped and under delivered.

Still an ugly piece of ****.

Well, the R34 V-Spec didn’t up the power either. Just wait for the V-Spec Nür…

I meant to say, it’s a great car, but it’s still Fugly.

Why does everyone sigh when they don’t hear about a huge horsepower increase? The GT-R already does 0-60 in under 4, and handles like its on rails. Less weight and better brakes will only improve these figures. It’s why Audi put a V6 back in the S4, less weight, similar power, faster car. The automotive industry is right-sizing itself, and the GT-R V Spec is a step in that direction. And Porsche will probably hate it even more than a GT-R Series II. Works for me

i wonder if the V-spec is gonna be without the launch control like next years gt-r’s. cant wait to see what the 0-60 times are gonna be without out.

I would’ve loved this car back in high school and maybe college. Still impressive. The track times should be significantly lower.

Well, not always necessary to tweak BHP if other factors are working in their favour anyway… Plus leaves room for tuners

It should appeal to the video-game generation. Turbo power is bullsh*t power. For the money being asked for this car, more attention should have been given to its looks — it looks very after-market DIY. As is sadly so often the case, PT Barnum’s famous observation will be borne out.

does it have a new transmission that wont blow up?

10 units per month? That’s only 120 per year, for the entire world. Say 3 more years of GT-R production.. and you are looking at a grand total of 360 units, world wide. This thing is going to be rarer than a Ferrari Enzo. Pointless to talk about it, since it is vaporware.

Just another overpriced Japanese POS. I think LLN should just stick to reporting the news at GM like the new Lacrosse. People could give two sh1ts about Japan anymore. Their sh1t is obsolete.

I saw the GT-R in flesh for the first time at the SD auto show. I was impressed. The pictures don’t do it justice. I won’t say it’s pretty but it is very attractive, like a modern fighter jet (F117 for instance). Bad ass!
I’m wondering if the Spec V parts will be available from the dealers to “upgrade” a regular GT-R, like the seats, suspension or exhaust…

rims are wayyy too ugly. the car is too nerdy. its like looking at a pentium quad core and going damn thats beautiful. i respect the car and the sh1t it can do but thats it. and on top of tht…..its image is gonna be even more damaged because i jus know if theres another fast and the furious….this is gonna be in it

That Exhaust is like a piece of art, but from a performance stand point it should realy have a “true dual” system………..This car would be tons of fun if the “SpoilYourFunComputers” didn’t step in every time the back steps out.

I dont care how you look at this car or no matter what trim it is. It is just so ugly. I dont care that it can hit 60 in 3.5 seconds. I would be afraid of getting laughed at for driving this through my home town. Its like driving a Prius. Im not talking about performance Im talking about how they rate on the ugly meter.

in all honesty, I would take a weight reduction with the same horsepower than a horsepower increase with the same weight. that way you can guarantee better handling than adding possibly more wiehgt to get more hp out of an engine.

Hmmm, cool car, definitely a cool car. Not the prettiest I mean it’s not a ferrari or an aston, but damn is it quick. I’m hoping it’s Nurburgring lap time is as impressive as I think it’ll be, but only time will tell.

these do look better when they are on the streets. i saw a dark gray one parked on someones driveway who clearly was a nissan fan because they had a titan and a 350z, it looked sweet with the matching gray rims. the other was a drive by white one. That one looked amazing! but still….i would rather have a ZR1!!

Meh, some carbon fiber, new wheels, and a bit more hp, bfd. Still the same car. Nice, but, ehh.

I do agree that they do look better when they are driving next to you, but I think that’s because you can’t see much of it at once like you can with pictures. Maybe they’ll eventually grow on me as time goes on.

My respects to Nissan… Gotta give credit where it’s due…

My future ZR1 one is pleased by this news. Heck… my current Z06 is pleased by this news, LOL

Nissan doing what Honda fails to do

Even though the R34 will always have a special place in my heart, this car is truly a work of art. From the Carbon Fiber spoiler down to the flux capacitor. lol

Japan may never have the best sportscar in the world but it’s good to see that the still have a strong fanbase. Japanese cars just never seem to have soul like Ferrari or Aston. they’re pieces of engineering, plain and simple. this car’s really cool in that it’s also safe to drive in the winter unlike other RWD sportscars.

My first thought upon seeing the rear of the car was, “Chevy Cobalt”. Ugh!

Funny – without “LAUNCH CONTROL” – The car does 0-60 in about 4.4 seconds, NOT in under
4 like they have been advertising with this thing ……it’s a shame they put Kudos on a car
with numbers that really reflect what the car can’t do.
Or put it this way – IT CAN – but you will be destroying it in the process.
Buy a base Corvette if you want pure acceleration – and then mod it to your liking !

You’ll be amazed at what the thing can do as far as speed and handling …..
And you’ll save tons of money and have an engine that will last ……;-)

Across the Country, Tow truck drivers are rejoicing.

The regular GT-R is good enough for me.

V = Voids warranty faster.

It’s good to see all the parallels between this car and the Corvette. The vette is finally a real sports car, because in the early ’90’s a Skyline GT-R would make a Corvette look like a Chevette. It is nice to see that it is finally not an underpowered overpriced piece of junk with the same engine as a Buick Roadmaster.

I would still much rather have a GT-R though because I think overhead valves are for lawnmowers.

“woah did anyone see that purple turd pass by really fast, oh wait its new paint on the spec V” still an amazing car, but not brown/purple paint please

Well with enough money you can make almost any car a killer, but it’s about what you get for the price you see on the window, sure we all fave our favorites, some of us are loyal to brands threw think and thin, and others well we trend to what is HOT…

i bet Nissan will claim this can do a Nürburgring lap in 5 minutes

this car doesn’t have a special place in my hear! it has a special place in the ocean!!!!

@ Scratchy — 5 minutes is conservative, this is the Spec-V! I heard the tires use nanotube technology to create van der Waals forces with the pavement upon contact that give the car over 40 lateral g. It never has to slow down. Once it gets going, you just hold down the pedal (I also heard there is a mode that detects when you’re on the Nurburgring and holds the pedal down for you) and continue to turn the wheel and the car does the rest. It also makes Cappuccino. And don’t worry power fans, I’m sure the press cars will have plenty more power than 478.

Let’s see. With the extensive use of carbon fiber the car only looses 60 kg (132 lbs). It is still a porker with its mass at a hefty 1680 kg (3703 lbs). It does receives brakes larger than the standard GTR. However, these Spec V upgrades push the car’s price up to $170K. Sorry Nissan, try again.

I was coming off the 95 at Flamingo the other day, and a white GT-R followed me around the corner onto Flamingo. The guy took the corner very quickly, which is what made me take notice. I saw that it was a GT-R, and told everyone in my car that a Nissan GT-R was coming up on my left. My sister was in town, and she was in the very back seat, and she said, “Well, what does that mean?” I said, “It’s the new supercar from Nissan. It’s quite cool.” And both my sister and my wife said, “It doesn’t look like anything special, just a typical car. Who would care about that?” My daughter, however, said, “Daddy, is it that white one? Is that the supercar? That’s one of my favorites!” I guess it all depends on who you are. She was pretty excited, and didn’t take her eyes off it until it turned left on Pecos.

It looks much better in person, though, and it sounds really cool.

Oh, and as far as weight goes, it’s funny how MarcDevon is the only one that noticed that this is right up there with the “fat pig Camaro”. I know, the Camaro doesn’t have the AWD and sweet suspension, but it’s also 1/4 the price. You’d think they’d be able to bring that weight down just a bit more for this kind of money…

And the back seats on this Spec-V are hideous. Sorry, but interior is very important to me. I don’t like this interior as much as the standard GT-R interior. I’m with JackJimTurkey – the regular GT-R is good enough for me.

STILL PROBABLY CANT DO 200MPH if they didnt touch gearing.

Bankruptcy2009 says he has one on order. And a coupon for AAMCO transmission rebuild 10% off.

Beatus, Nissan broomed the back seats to save weight (ala AMG Black Series) I can’t say i like the way they replaced the seats though.
But unless that upgraded suspension can eliminate the reported massive understeer at the limits (I can’t say I’ve driven one so I’ll have to take the word of reviewers and test drivers) this car is simply a well marketed and over-hyped sales trick to get more cash for the same car (base GT-R)

And LLN could you look at fixing the problem where the last part of the last post is repeated?

I see them every day Flatred, and I still think that they are ugly and very plain. And the F117 is hardly a good example of modern styling, it was designed in the 70’s!

They save a whopping 60 lbs, add no power and charge 50% more? Wtf?

“Ultimate Black Opal (RP)” …read “purple”

The Spec V in Black is what I ordered. And if the weight is shed close to about the 2900 Lb mark or about Equal to the ZR1 then it would be perfect to prove a point. That you don’t need more Horsepower. The Current model will run circles around a Corvette in real world driving. No Corvette driver would ever drive that thing to the limit in REAL WORLD Weather driving without fear of taking their own life!

And true to Nissan they did’nt increase the HP, and I did’nt want any more Horsepower. I just want to prove a point to the Gear heads but that think Horsepower is everything.. I mean their are wants and needs in life. If your a sports car enthusiast you think you WANT more Horsepower but in Reality what you NEED is more Traction. Its makes no sense to builld a higher Horsepower car is it can’t compete in all weather races like the World Rally Cup.

My Spec -V GT-R will absolutely Obliterate the Competition and will do so beating Cars with 200 or perhaps even 300 Horsepower more. Your Looking at the “World’s Fastest Production Car” move over Porsche I rest my case!

Bankruptcy2009,

1. The Spec V is only available in Japan (for now).
2. It cost approximately $170,000 USD.
3. It still weights over 3700 lbs.

I’m sure Gordan Murray is cringing over this car.

So Bankruptcy 2009, if you did indeed order a GT-R Spec V, can you scan a copy of your built to order sheet, post in on photo bucket, and post us a link so we can see it?

Ummm Marc Baby your ah incorrect on all accounts. The spec V is a Lighter car dumb ass ok
and no it ain’t 170,000 US dollar idiot. and It will destroy the competition ok gotcha!

Bankruptcy2009 has no built to order sheet to show us, meaning he has no Spec V, except his Hot Wheels next to his junior high homework.

DON’T FORGET: Base GTR, is a loss of money for Nissan. Every one they sell, Nissan loses their shirt on. It is a complete subsidized vehicle. GTR-V costs $170,000USD or there abouts, because it is full pop. And because of its limit numbers, they are clearly not buying parts from suppliers at a volume rate. And Nissan fully intends on NOT subsidizing the GTR-V. That is why it costs $170,000. People still think Nissan figured out some performance-to-dollar miracle… they haven’t. They are just giving it away. GTR wasn’t to make money on–it was to grace the covers of magazine, and get all you f.ucking retarded internet f.aggots to fill forums with.

LS7 go cry your eyes out it won’t do you any good. When the real Races are won the GT-R will Prevail in every case and make no mistake about it. Nissan will Kick Ass

I saw this car at the LA Auto Show and it was really unattractive. Too many boxy lines everywhere. (And ridiculously over-priced)

Ironically, it was parked next to the just-debuted 370Z which is a far better looking automobile.

It’s too bad the GT-R isn’t a 370Z body with the GT-R’s innards.

I am SURPRISED none of you commenters noticed this! Read the statement: more torque at high engine speed EQUALS MORE POWER!
Nissan pulled this trick with the Skyline R34 too. Being powerful is not politically correct in Japan.

YIKES! I hope they’re understating that power boost for double the price. Otherwise they’ve taken a car that is a great value and made it a “what were you thinking when you bought that?!”

Bankruptcy2009, I’m on the waiting list for a standard GT-R here in Canada, and if you want one made to order you probably will never get it. The demand is high enough that you simply get a phone call from the dealer you signed up with when your number comes up, meaning when your car is at the docks on the pacific coast. As far as I know, color choices are dependent on the current shipment of cars, so just saying I want mine in black is, well, impossible. And it’s a $10K non-refundable up-front once they have confirmed your car is in port. My guess is it’s a similar set-up down in the US but they are marking up the cars (they can’t in Canada).

With the limited production of the GT-R-V I’m guessing you can’t even “order” one.

Furthermore, I didn’t know they were getting rid of launch control. If my 0-60 times are going to be up to 4.4 because of it being omitted by the time my number comes up I’m passing my number off and putting $50,000 into a base 370Z. I just can’t have my father beating me in his 911. Mind you he has already offered to take the GT-R off my hands. So we’ll see.

Ok I see the button for the overboost, but where is the one to engage the afterburners?

Kater in your dreams buddy . This will beat the crap out of your old man’s 911. Its probably yours. But the base GT-R will handle ya until your Porsche Pukes on the side of the road from Exhaustion. You can’t even be serious to hang with this car dude. I have the Spec V on order and I have been told it will do 0-60 in under 3 seconds . enough said. view my tail lights rich boy!

Who’s tires will last longer? GT-R or 911 Turbo? I have a feeling that the GT-R will go through tires faster than the 911 just because of inertial forces while cornering. It would be fun to see, though.

wideopenthrottle,
i think the afterburners engage once the engine catches on fire

Bankruptcy2009 is the worst! He knows absolutely nothing! All this dumb talk of how there are prob 5 cars doing 0-60 in under 3 seconds for under 100,000. Like my teacher used to say he’s ignorant, he just doesn’t know any better. He doesn’t mean to be a boob, he just can’t help it. I have a 08 gt500 conv (red package) and there is no possible way the new one can do 0-60 in under 3. Mine can prob do 0-60 in 4.5 give or take a tenth of a second. If he read the article completely he would see it says “exclusively ultimate black opal” body color, but yet he picked his color out. Didn’t this very same site have the zr1 video at nuremburg when it destroyed the gtr’s time. The only car i know breaking 3 seconds stock is the Bughatti. U can tell he’s young though and is only into imports since he only says 0-60 TIMES AND A REAL RACE IS A QUARTER MILE. My other car is an 05 acura tl, so i got to ask bankruptcy (i know how much he loves honda) if i drive it right can i do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds in that stock and run 11.5 second quarter miles. Just wondering what you’ll say to baffle me next.

I’m not going to get dragged into this argument but I have two big problems with this…

It’s nothing like a Corvette. It’s just as fast as a Corvette, and more expensive. It’s much heavier than a Corvette, looks totally different and to me, has no sex appeal whatsoever. So just stop comparing it to a Corvette.

And as I said, it has no sex appeal. It looks like an eraser that some first grader drilled four holes into the back of. Yes, it’s useful with good seating, but I really could care less. So what’s the point? There is none.

jaybanks- Your post made no sense, aside from body colors. I don’t get what your rant about 0-60 times was about.

Sorry bud, but you shouldn’t have even argued with bankruptcy09, he has no clue what he’s talking about either!

jayjc08- The reason i kept mentioning 0-60 times is because he is always talking of different cars doing 0-60 in under 3 seconds which doesn’t happen. His post of the new gt500 said it should do 0-60 in under 3, i think he said it’ll do 2.9. The reason i was saying it is because a true race is a quarter mile, people do not have a race from 0-60. That’s all jay, just trying to clear up my rant lol

when you compare cars you tend to compare cars with similar power ratio,or at lease the same price range, now how the hell does the corvette even get into this category??? 2009 gt-r = around 80k zr1=106k.
second who the hell going to buy a zr1 to go racing everyday or weekend..? gt-r is an all around ready race car with all wheel ready on command…if it snow or rain you can still push the gt-r now what the hell are u suppose to do with the zr1. drive it like an old granny? or park it at home second gt-r get better gas mileage then the zr1 meaning more driving without visiting the gas station like ever 3 times a week..and here in the city where I live all I care about is the 0-60 ever stop light is a race for me..the zr1 is a good car its just not an all around winner…see my point! if u don’t check see the amount of zr1 sold compare to the gt-r

DO THE DAMN MATH AND UR HOMEWORK PEOPLE

Fx NauGhtY My sentiments exactly. Stop light to Stop light is the real world racing. So Absolutely 0-60 counts as a Race!. Not saying it is legal and most case would’nt advise it. But it does prove who is quicker and it sure would not be the vette. Its Tongue (Radiator) would be dying of exhaustion (Blown Raditor Core) on the side of the road after a nasty rant vs a GT-R on a hot summers day I’d be willing to bet. Who the hell has to the time to take their car down to the local Drag strip or raceway and that is if the city even has one to being with!. Besides the vette is some ways is a very delicate car and at High speed is not really the thing you want to be in if it hit something. I know of so many Fatalities of owners of vettes. Its a good car on a race track and that is it. Lousy Real world driving and forget about snow or ice its in the garage all winter long.

Jaybanks you just don’t know how to drive a stick and that is if you did own a GT500 which sir I hightly doubt you do. If you read my earlier post then a person such as myself could attain with the current GT500 0-60 of 4.0 to 4.1 ok and a 1/4 of 11.9 that is fast and better than what that slow shifting hand of yours can do. Acura Tl is not a Sports car and you could not attain those number without modifications.

With Improve Gear ratios and better tires on the newer GT500, and reworked everything else, plus 40 more horses. We could be looking at 0-60 times of 3.6 to 3.8 seconds which puts it about even with the vette entirely. now that is before the next Generation Mustang that will undoubtly have the Dry DCT,IRS,AWD a lighter body and may not only get 2.9 seconds in 0-60 it may top the Veyron’s 2.7 0-60 sprint.
Assuming Ford has lightened the weight on the Mustang with an output between 700 and 800HP
Look for a 0-60 time of about a World Record 0-60 in 1.9 Seconds!

Well Bankruptcy I have no problem with stick. I can actually prove i have a car with a stick unlike you my friend. Why aren’t you testing cars for every major company? I’m sure they would like a driver that could drive a new mustang faster than a veyron. They wouldn’t need bailout money if a 35,000 dollar sports car could beat the fastest production car ever created. If you go to teamshelby.com and look for 08redstripevert you will find a pic of my car. I have window stickers, registration, pictures, or whatever else you would like to see for proof my friend. You on the other hand haven’t been able to prove you have a GTR like everyone has asked you to. The comment i made of my acura was a lil thing called sarcasm (a little joke of how you like to slurp on honda’s tail pipes (we’ve all read the posts). Please read the road and track article on the front page of their web page. The first sentence reads “As much as it pains us to begin a story with bad news. we’re sad to report that the new Nissan GT-R SpecV WON’T be headed to our shores. The price exchange is 15,750,000 yen or $175,419. So how are you gonna pull off this getting to the states? Also the gtr placed fourth out of 4 cars in a recent test which included the Vette. Now just to point out exactly what i mean about you hear are examples just from the one post above, not even counting the other idiotic comments. Next Generation mustang will not be irs or awd, ford has already said it. The numbers for 0-60 in the mustang gt will pretty much match the bullitts figures.
Drum roll please, u say it may not only get 2.9 0-60 it may top the Veyron’s 2.7 0-60 sprint (hahaha). You do realize that it is a mustang right? Plus with an output between 700 and 800hp look for a 0-60 time of about a world record 0-60 in 1.9 seconds. The supersnake has 725 hp and it is not even doing 0-60 in 3.5 maybe not even 4.

Without all wheel drive any stock car is very limited in 0-60 times..you can only get so much traction on rear wheel drive, unless with upgrade your rear end and put some freaking wide *** slick tires in the back and then there is fish tale…all around winner is a 4 wheel car that becomes 100% rear wheel at high speed for better control..and the 4 wheel for pick up and stability when you need it its an all around winner think gt-r…
oh just in case you guys didn’t know this but I work on 98% ford and the mustang has the same engine block as the lincoln town car only difference is the cam as for the 4.6l

oh yea one more thing ford stock is trading at $1.90 and 4.2bil a year income now toyota is $62.10 and income is 98.1bil that’s to show you how much people prefer the japanese and how good their doing
as for gm $3.20 at income at 2.1bil biggggggggggggg freaking difference

JayBanks9 is right with his earlier comment what a real sports car needs is better handling and don’t make the mistake to think that handling is if the car corners or not its how it does it and how much you can control it when it loses traction plus how effectively puts the power down to the earth.It’s like choosing to drive a pegueot 106 GTi or a caterham instead of a “better”/faster/more expensive car.A vette is a vette big bad fast the GT-R on the other hand its just like the old GT-Rs it just blows the competition away watch a race between an m3 e46 and a GT-R r34 its like a friggin joke!so don’t go crazy with the results GT-R is one of the fastest cars at the moment and thats it stop trying to prove that its not you’re just waistin your time.

Wow. There are some lame comments on this thread. People love to talk about cars they’ve never driven or even seen.

I’ve had good experiences with Nissan myself. I used to own an old Z, and I loved it to pieces (poor thing got caught in flood water and I had to scrap it – very sad day). I currently own a Nissan Quest, and I love it, too. Every Nissan I’ve ever driven has felt solid, quick, and fun. But I try to stay as impartial to any make as possible. I’m definitely not a fanboy of any sort.

There is no doubt that the GT-R is an incredible feat of engineering. I’ve not only seen the numbers, but I’ve caught a glimpse of the performance as well (as noted by my first post in the thread). I for one would love to take one out for a drive. I wouldn’t mind owning one. In fact, personally, I’d choose the GT-R over a Corvette or almost any other very fast car if I could. I’d probably take an Aston Martin or a Veyron over the GT-R, not because of performance but because of looks and interior design. Those things are more important than performance to me.

But let’s face facts, folks. This is a fast car, but the GT-R got spanked in the ring by two American cars. The general reputation is that American cars are fast in a straight line, but can’t handle worth crap. But the American cars that beat the GT-R proved that this is no longer true. The thing I find funny is that the GT-R supposedly can beat both the Viper ACR and the ZR1 in a straight line due to AWD. But bot the ZR1 and the ACR actually get better lateral acceleration than the GT-R. That’s a bit backwards from the general though, but it is the truth. Yes, the GT-R IS a fast car, and is among the fastest in the ‘Ring, but it is not God, nor is it the be all and end all of cars.

Another misnomer is that American cars break down a lot. Um, isn’t there a transmission problem caused by the launch control on the GT-R? Seems to me that the ‘Vette and Viper transmissions are the only ones able to handle the torque created by their massive engines. Of course, whenever you rev an engine to the peak of its torque curve, and then drop the clutch, you put a strain on the tranny. But with a sequential shifter, the strain is a bit harder. Nissan was definitely going for “fast”, not “tough” with this car. They did what they set out to do, and they did it well, but they are now ending up with broken cars. The American transmissions are better suited for that kind of strain, although they still wear out. But they aren’t wearing out as quickly as those GT-R transmissions are.

And then there’s the gas mileage issue. No, American V8 engines don’t ALWAYS get poor gas mileage. The ‘Vette is rated at 26mpg on the highway, while the GT-R is rated at 21mpg. “But, Beatusmongous, how is that possible when the GT-R engine is a 3.8L V6 and the Corvette is a 5.7L V8?” The answer is torque combined with aerodynamics. The Corvette engine has so much displacement that it has a lot of power down at 1,500 RPM, while a car like the GT-R needs to turn at a higher rate in order to “cruise” on the highway. On the aerodynamics side, there is such a slight drag coefficient on the ‘Vette compared to the bulky GT-R that the resistance level of air doesn’t cause the engine to work as hard, either. See, the designers of the Corvette decided to rely on light weight, traction, stance and suspension to turn their car, while Nissan used aerodynamic downforce, suspension and technology to steer theirs. By using downforce, Nissan created more air resistance, and by adding technology, they added weight. Both those things work against the engine while on the highway, and therefore, mileage drops.

I haven’t driven a GT-R, nor have I driven a Viper. I have driven a ZR1, though, and it really is a nice car, whether you are a GM fan or not (and I’m not). Again, I’m not being partial to anyone, nor disrespectful to anyone. I respect anything that’s fast, no matter who makes it. Heck, I even respect stuff that isn’t fast. But let’s keep our facts straight and keep our emotions out of the facts.

One thing I do understand is physics, and many of the lame comments I see on this thread are against the principles of physics. Horsepower alone doesn’t make for good 0-60 times. Driveline loss, traction, weight, and weight distribution play a big part in that as well. Crashing a GT-R at high speed wouldn’t be much different than crashing a Corvette at high speed. I’ve seen people survive Corvette crashes at over 140mph, and I’ve seen people die in crashes in real “tough” cars at 35mph. The only real difference between a Corvette crash and a GT-R crash is that the driver of a GT-R can kill his wife and two kids, as opposed to just his wife with the Corvette.

There may be other cars that can get to 60mph faster than the Veyron, but there are no cars that can beat it to 160mph. Well, maybe the Ultima Aero, but even then I’m not too sure. But the Veyron is more than just speed. It is one really nice looking car.

By the way, people aren’t buying Toyota cars because they are “better.” I’ll use this analogy again: More people eat at McDonald’s than Outback, but that doesn’t make McDonald’s “better”. Toyota is the McDonald’s of the car world – simple, plain, boring, cheap, and you see them on every corner. They are more successful with that model, thanks to tasteless buyers, but I wouldn’t call them “better”.

bit dissapointed on the figures but still an awsome car.

i can`t believe this sh.. you Americans have to compare every f…… car with a corvette..do you? Well back to reality corvette is a a peace of sh.. this car is a great sports car and a corvette is no match to this beast..this is a fantastic car..whats wrong with you people..corvette is at the bottom of the list of any sports car fan..

2009 ECU update allows VDC *on* launch control

ZR1 tops all (in its price range)

I’m finding alot of ignorance here about the Vette. Perhaps you forgot about the 90-95 Zr-1.
Junk? ithink not. Driving a MODDED C6 Zo6 , ditching the runflats…..I have no fear of your super car.
(cam/intake /headers /tune/ and TIRES.

As a matter of fact i’ve had 3 back down from any on ramp confrotation were accelration and grip were the issues. I race. I have the Vette my daily ..a Built 408 06GTO ( meaning suspension, brakes the works, it can road race or drag depending on tires and coilover adjustments)

The GT-r..its a great car to bad 2000 a year production. LC that breaks and viod the warrantee.
Hey BANKRUPTCY…whats your deal. You ever been in a 3LZ 08 or above Zo6 let alone Zr1.

Yeah rain is a problem….but i’m not ralling. Since i’m in the south…snow is of no concern.
I addressed some of the Zo6’s issues, New twin disc/ coilover conversion/ brake pads and lines and fluid/ its lower and TIRES. with the 6 grand total on top of GM pricing. Zr1 guys are no issue as long as they are stock…in almost any confrontation of acceleration. …I ripped a GT-R with his launch control..yes he jumped out with a car…..then i smoked right on by.

Funny thing a Zo6 or Zr1 in Europe is well respected Exotic. Forget dollar for dollar…the Zr1 and Zo6 have earned….EARNED their rightful place in history…a NA SBC competing with super high tech and winning. Drive a Zo6 with INVo’s or MPS anything but runflats….and you will be shocked what 68k can buy.

Good luck on finding a 2000 unit a year car for anything like 80k…they are selling for far more.
The Viper is even a better Buy. ( and both better looking) If you want to actually drive and win by your skill the Zr1, the Viper ,The Zo6 all have superior.

Where are you getting 2.9 for a mustang…..gee i guess why should any want a Ford GT when alowly Mustnage can smoke it.. NEVER gonna happen….hell the GT 500KR ( no offense to its owners)
can’t even beat a LS3 base vette z-51..

You( 2009.) remind me of the Lotus guys i use to spank with a modertly prepped WS6 trans Am. In a straight line on the track. You know little
My Zo6 spins happily to 7200 with my drivetrain work. Not bad for a POS and i can actually Hook.Imagine the surprise on the GT-R owner when i passed him half way through first gear….and left him loooking at my cheap plastic Vette ass.. Grow up. togh guy. You are a hot air balloon…and you keep flapping your mouth a Vette owner is gonna pop it for ya. Also i don’t drive my 70K+ Vette out in the rain….it stays more pristine that way , same goes for the GTO although it value would be with mods, in the 55K range.

I have an Evo 9 MR for those ocassions….i’ll bet you think its stock…..lol try 450 to the wheels.
GT-R’s have their place…..but a Vette son….is Iconic. as is the Viper being a reborn Shelby Cobra.

Sorry bout the spelling. But when a Jap kissing ass comes along, i tend to get angry.
Christ. we retooled them after WW2. You jerk and only because of that did they have Newer and better idea’s. Funny how our WW2 planes , Ships and overall equipment( not tanks or some other odds and ends) And the Soldier himself were considered the best.

We only lack the ability to unite. Remember this..the rest of the world laughs as Americans fight each other over who’s culture, who’s this or tha is better. All the other countries Unite.

I can guarantee if Americans ONLY bough american cars. Our cars would be the best do to overwhelming cash cow profits..

A little advice for all of you. Learn to speak Chinese and Russian. You talk of cars is insignificant
However even a LT1 90’s Era Vette was upto the task of wipping stock for stock japans Quadruple attack. the TT300z the TT VR4, the Turbo Rx7, and Stock.for stock the SupraTT.

funny how they all needed turbo’s and mostimes 2. Just like the GTR…take its turbo’s off…let JApan create a better V8, V10 V12……and show ushow its done since we are so behind. Ever seen whata ligenfeltter TT LS7 can do??

Bunkruptcy…..is apropriate name for you. You brain in void of any real analytical thinking. hence branrupt of real idea’s ..Stangs beating Bugatti’s LMAO… A 1.9 0-60 in anything under a 500k car…not likely Not prodution or even close to production. Oh wait my Busa can do 2.8 witout pulling up the front end….but thats not a car is it. Power to weight.+ ability to put down the power effectively.

Napper, I do have to point out that the U.S. isn’t the only country that fights within itself. Most other countries do. Norteñas fighting with Chilangos in México, or drug cartels fighting with government there as well… Basques fighting with those that want to suppress them in Spain… Muslims and non-Muslims fighting in France… Quebec wanting to secede from Canada (and probably a lot of Canadians wishing they would)… Tongans just fighting because they like to… Chinese fighting with Tibetans… North and South Korea… This stuff is happening all over the world. We just see it because we’re here.

One question: WHERE’S THE 550HP??? How is this considered the ‘high performance’ GT-R? I guess I’ll wait for the GT-R NISMO. 600hp, 4.0L TT V6 may I suggest? i stillo love the base GT-R though.

Very disappointed with the GTR-V spec. I know HP isn’t everything and with the limited production I”m sure everyone will sell, but basically unless you’re buying one for having the ultimate track car or just to have one sitting in your garage for collecting purposes I see nothing special about this car.

On another note I do think it looks sweet as hell.

JayBanks9 your obvioulsy not in tune with reality my Friend. Last comment the bullit Mustang is way underpowered ok for 2010 the 540HP Mustang GT500 will blast through 0-60 much faster than it ever did before and the 1/4 mile as well. I don’t think their will be much to talk about on the ZR1 side of the equation once those numbers are out! And the Newer Gear Ratios will bring down the Times enormously. Secondly the GT-R was not dressed down by either american Car. Remember the Dodge Viper in its regular 600 HP form gets its ass kicked by the base model GT-R ok. Its only the Modified ACR Dodge Viper that can win in the Ring. And Yes I would take the ACR Viper over the piece of garbage ZR1 any day of the week.

But lets make a point for the addle head of yours. Lets just put little snow on the track at NUremburing lets see who wins. Hands down it will be be the GT-R Base model over everything else including the Veyron. THe Veyron is a car once again I would take over the POS vette any day of the week either, Not only because its an incredibly engineered car but it would make hte ZR1 look like it was standing still in comparison. And I would give you a head start like the BMW M5 the result would be the same. SMOKED!

Nothing but nothing my friend would stay with the GT-R in Real world driving. ICE, SNOW, Rain. SO go a head add 2 or 3 thousand more horsepower to your car it makes no difference the GT-R Prevails!

Sorry to go back and forth again to everyone on the thread but bankruptcy drives me nuts. The comment i made on the bullitt mustang was that it is pretty much what the ‘10 gt will be from a powertrain perspective. not what you said ford will undoubtly do. Did you or did you not say that the gt500 was completely reworked and should do 0-60 in about 3.6 to 3.8 followed up by this, “now that is before the next Generation Mustang that will undoubtly have the Dry DCT,IRS,AWD a lighter body and may not only get 2.9 seconds in 0-60 it may top the Veyron’s 2.7 0-60 sprint. Assuming Ford has lightened the weight on the Mustang with an output between 700 and 800HP. Look for a 0-60 time of about a World Record 0-60 in 1.9 Seconds!I.” Even made sure i quoted it from the horses mouth.
Then your recent comment above this one you say the ‘10 gt500 will be much faster than it ever was before. It will be faster, but not going to be doing 0-60 in 1.8 anytime soon. gt500 will be out after the new mustang is realeased. Who really races in the snow? You read the one article that said nissan wanted the gtr to be an all weather car and handle in the snow so you always bring up snow. If it’s snowing in formula one nascar or any other road race what do they do? Please don’t say if they all drive gtr’s they wouldn’t have to stop the race.
Of course you would rather have a veyron over a vette. You could buy 20 vettes easy for the same price, so the veyron better be nicer. Why must you say real world driving all the the time ICE, SNOW, Rain when we are pretty much talking about race cars? No one is driving these cars in the snow. (not saying you can’t)
Last thing, when are you gonna give us info on the spec-v u ordered, answer my questions about the gtr spec v article i posted earlier that said they would not be making it to the u.s, how you picked your color when it will be released exclusively in one color, and the price c&d said of $170,000? Also, i know you went to teamshelby.com to see if 08redstripevert existed and saw i was telling the truth, now how about you give us a link to something where we can see some sort of proof that you have a regular gtr.
I don’t even believe you have a car!

Hey, Bankruptcy, your GT-R couldn’t beat my DeLorean DMC with its Flux Capacitor. I could go back in time, and finish the ‘ring before I even started! Oh, yeah!

Pull your head out, Bankruptcy. The way you talk, we’ll be teleporting our cars to the end of the track in just a few years. Physics is what keeps these cars bound. Veyron loses in the ‘ring because it’s a high-speed car, not a circuit racer.

But it doesn’t matter anymore, because not only will the manufacturers be forced to make 12HP mini-cars covered in bubble wrap in order to meet our safety standards and fuel standards of 900mpg, but you won’t be able to afford one anyway, thanks to our lovely government policies. We’ll probably all be on some sort of car sharing program soon where we get the privilege of touching a car for three minutes a week.

Hi guys… Im a new member… I’ve been watching u guys arguing abt the gtr, corvette, gt500 what so ever…. I just wanna let u guys know, here in MALAYSIA, the taxes for all CBU cars are sky high… The new GTR cost us about RM650,000. The currency in US$ is divided into 3.5… Now u got wat we pay for a GTR… RM650,000/3.5 = US$185000. for dat kinda a money I can even get a Ferari in your town. I have to pay RM320,000 for the new Evo X or US$90,000! That is similar to what u guys pay for a GTR. You guys should be thankful because the price is still reasonable. I always wish I can be in your shoes and get the New GTR for the price lower than the price I should pay for the new evo

How much are Malaysian cars, Zuten?

It sounds alright, but will ultimately be a scam considering the price hike…

You are basically paying, well however much they decide, for extra carbon fiber and a “boost” in mid range torque.

Every time I read these blogs and comments about the GTR I’m just stunned at all the anger being spewed. This one is particularly ugly. So here is my shot at ugly. Think this car is a POS? Or the ZR1? or ___ (fillin the blanks of whatever vehicle your care to deride). Then…you are most likely a POS yourself! Seriously, what’s wrong with you people! Are that that many losers in the world? Scary.