Thought I would jump in here before Jamaicandude and Blakkar go at it again…

I’m surprised that Nissan is surprised… Somehow the $70,000 market is pretty large considering how many vehicles are offered at this point. The GT-R is probably in the top 3 of it’s segment. I’ll be keeping my eye open for one of these at the local dealer.

From what I’ve seen. Nissan did not give themselves enough credit.

This is going to be like the first year of the 240Z. They only made about 100K units for the year and they sold out in no time. The following year that first run was worth more than the next year’s run.

In today’s investor driven world, I would expect almost all those GT-Rs to be in the hands of collectors and not drivers. The following year, the drivers will get their fair shot at them.

This will be a legendary car, and it out performs cars well exceeding the cost.. My father is considering this as a retirement present for himself !

Still can’t get over those headlamps.

You can’t tell me that with all the high paid suits doing market research prior to the vehicle’s launch that they didn’t have any idea there was going to be this kind of demand. These production numbers are by design- not a result of underestimating the appetite of the buying public. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with this ploy, but I’m sure Nissan will find a way to ‘cope’ with the issue.

exceeding expectations, are you kidding me?! nissan market research team should be fired…if one wants to makes some money in the next year better run to your nearest nissan dealer and put a deposit on that bad boy.

The first model year will not be a collectors item for MANY decades. Look at the original model year Viper, NSX, etc.

Good luck getting one at sticker price for the first year or two.

WTF? Exceeding expectations? Their sales target was ridiculously low if you ask me. They’d better speed up production of these monsters. Just like the Z and Infiniti G, Nissan has got another homerun on their hands.

Savedsol,

Resale value. Not everyone who bought one will keep it for very long. It wouldn’t be hard to see second hand GT-Rs going for as much or more than the new units. Up side, seats are broken in, an the insurance is lower (barely) because it’s a used car.

Anonymous2,

Nissan was probably looking at all sports cars in this price range, of which there are relatively few. I don’t know what numbers Nissan came up with but the C6 Z06 sells a little under 3000 units a year and it is a derivative of the “standard” C6 .

But if demand is strong enough long enough they may raise their projections, but I doubt it will ever be more than 10k a year before the end of its run. 5K units a year seems more like the most reasonable expectation.

$70K is a tall order for the Nissan/Infiniti lineup that does not get near this base price. This car is also generational as those entering their early thirties relished the original models as one of the ultimate imports even willing to put up with right-hand drive to own one. Another potential buyer is the NSX owner who likes Japanese machinery. Even at 1,500 shipping Stateside I believe that you will see some languishing in showrooms, albeit many an enthusiast will visit their dealership to see and sit in one. The Skyline simply does not have the presence, nor the interest of those purchasing an already deeply established Porsche models here in the States. Plus, being a new car to the States there is the age-old issue of finding the right person at the dealership who can truly service the Skyline without screwing it up; another point up for Porsche for service availability.

It doesn’t surprise me that nearly the entire first run is already spoken for. People who went out and put their deposits down for the GTR, before even seeing what it looked like, are the hardcore fans who would have bought this car regardless of how ugly it was. I’m really interested to see how much demand there will be for this car in two years or so. It seems like Nissan’s going the route of maintaining demand by limiting supply so that people will still have to fight to get one. Kind of like a 70k nintendo wii. In two years, if they fix the nasty grill, I just might be one of those people.

For $70k, there’d probably be a couple cars I’d take over this. But it’s still damn sexy.

Wake up….a significant portion of those pre-orders are speculators wanting to make a quick 10-20 grand reselling the car.

madcapp, Didnt nissan say they would void any warranties from the resellers?

The most grey marketed car into the US for the last 10 years straight the dream car of the dotcom gen and they still arent sure they can sell any here? Thats bull they are playing coy, they are taking a lesson from porsche, Ferrari, and bentley who sell less cars then they can. Always building about 20% less then they think they can sell in order to keep demand and prices high. The rich want what they cant have, like everbody. Its the most enviable marketing situation to be in.

Yeah CTS Driver there was an article right here on LLN a while ago saying Nissan was going to try and void the warranty if the car exchanged hands within the first year, or to the second buyer. Here it is… http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissan-considering-voiding-warranty-on-second-owner-gt-rs.html
But yeah depending on the result of this we’ll see how many of these buyers are the ones expecting a 10-20k profit. As we all know the markup from the dealers alone will be that much in the first year. But I’m not surprised as to the number of pre-orders that Nissan has gotten for this car, it’s the Skyline replacement so of course it’s going to sell like crazy in Japan. I hope Nissan has success with it here. I’d like to see one in person. I thought too that the first year will be a major collector car, but savedsol makes a good point. I think the later year models will go for more. But I’m sure in a year or so we’ll be hearing of the Spec-? whatever that’s going to come out too and that’s going to be a collector car for sure, with a price tag i’m sure to come real close or exceed 100k.

What a BEAST!
JAMAICANDUDE —> You are right on. First Nissan threw came out with the Z. Then the G series. And now this Monster. Man — talk about HOT cars!!!!!

And while researching the GT-R the other day, I came across this:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=544736

Talk about a dream car!

CTS, there was talk about that, but I don’t think that they can do that.

Its a Japanese supercar LEGEND of course it gonna be on pre order I cant wait to see one on the road
Toyota better get a version of the LF-A to sell in NA They will clean up !
Honda should consider bringing back the Prelude also no its not on the level performance wise with a Supra or Skyline but I think if they made one it would sell

1115:
This is completely off topic, but I think the Prelude would only make sense if Honda made it RWD. If not, it’ll be a sales flop like before. Matter of fact, at that rate it’d make more sense for them to make the RSX/Integra RWD, and market it as a luxo-sports coupe, and then do a sedan variant that could be the new TSX or TL. Honda/Acura desperately needs RWD vehicles in their lineup. The New Accord coupe is already everything the old Prelude was… and then some.

Fanboys talk aside, if I’m in the market for a purely abusable sport car under 100K, I’ll pick this car over anything else even the Exige. 70K is a Cayman S fully loaded so that should be the GT-R’s main competitor but it’s straightline performance is way below the GT-R. I will still need an everyday GT though, so the Cayman is still a possible purchase.

jamaicandude, I don’t think Honda ‘desperately’ needs anything.

johnnycanuck:
I didn’t mean that literally. Put it this way: they’ll never be considered as serious contenders in the luxury sports category until they do offer rwd vehicles. Only then will they be able to compete head to head against the likes of MB, BMW and Infiniti.

jamaicandude, point well taken, but even if they’re resting a bit on their laurels- it’s a pretty nice set of laurels. I firmly believe they will do battle… but only when they are sure they are ready. ‘ Know thy enemy, know thyself’.

…of course Ford follows a different credo based on the Klingon philosophy: ‘today is a good day to die’.

johnnycanuck:
Believe me, I couldn’t agree with you more about Honda. I love their cars and drove nothing but H badged cars for years. RWD… (other than the NSX and S2K) would just be a welcome addition… possibly the final piece to the puzzle. And lol about Ford. That’s a really good analogy.

OH COME ON, Nissan knew that this car would have a queue that stretches into the future so i dont know who they’re trying to fool with all this preordered bull****. Any fool can see that something as anticipated as this would have very high demand in the market.

People, this car has nothing to do with the Skyline. G35 = Nissan Skyline in Japan.

larism, that site rocked it had it in RED, oh hell yeah i beat off to that pic a couple times last nite.

1115, i also would like to see a prelude, my buddy has a 1990si, and its a awesome handling little car.

I liked Preludes a lot also, but remember quite well how the dash plastic seemed to come straight out of a Mattel factory, including terribly cheap coloring. Fun to drive, though.

CTS DRIVER —> I hear you. Those pics in red can make a grown man cry… can I have a tissue please?
And the ironic part for me – at least- is that as late as 2003 I hated Nissan cars…. but one must give credit when credit is due… Nissan is just on a roll.
Why can’t Ford give us something as exciting and sexy as this!!!!

haha larism me too, 2003 i bought my first red nissan its a pickup but still it has definately changed my perception of nissan.

Does it look odd? Yes, will it be sold out? Yes!

Are they retarded? Of course more people will buy it in America than in Japan!!
American’s love imports more than the Japanese love their own cars! Also, the American market buys 16 million cars a year compared to 3-4 million (and shrinking) in Japan.

Clever marketing pays! Nissan did an outstanding job with the GTR launch.

Please oh please somebody offer a bodykit for this car that actually looks good

Jamaicandude,

I disagree with you. First the last Prelude want a sales flop at all. Honda had to make the Ridgeline and more SUV bc the sports coupe market was shrinking, The Prelude especially the SH was on backorder for months I know bc a family member had to wait for one, it eventually got stolen but thats another story
Acura has SH AWD and thats better than just RWD RWD is a hassle in bad weather areas and I dont think its needed on any Acura’s or Honda’s
I saw the Accord Coupe for the first time on Thursday and its nicer in person than it is in the pics. The Accord sedan in burgundy with tan leather is a SERIOUSLY nice car. Honda hasd outdone themselves with the Accord this time around. Reliability high resale fun to drive great looks, they cant be beaten I think Honda will take down the Camry with the Accord this time.
What Acura needs is a 4.2 V8 in the RL. THe Rl is a great car but suffering badly in sales bc of the lack of V8. Honda did the opposite of what they should have done. They downgraded the RL and offered the regular RL and then the RL with the tech package and the car suffered for it. They sold 987 in Sept 06 and 286 in Sept 07. I also personally think they should get rid of all 4 cylinder engines in the Acura lineup A luxury car in America should have 6 or more cylinders. The TSX is a great car (best resale of 07) but the nex one should have the 3.0 under the hood and so should the RDX.

“I also personally think they should get rid of all 4 cylinder engines in the Acura lineup A luxury car in America should have 6 or more cylinders. The TSX is a great car (best resale of 07) but the nex one should have the 3.0 under the hood and so should the RDX.”

Agreed.

1115:
SH AWD is better than RWD… I agree with you 100%. I’d just rather see it as an option rather than standard, not because I prefer rwd (I drive an Evo IX) but because that way they could compete head to head with the Germans in the sports sedan segment. Not everyone wants AWD standard… purists will always prefer rwd. It would bring a bit more depth to the model lineup. And I also agree that 4 cylinder powerplants don’t belong in the Acura line. V6’s or better. And like I said before, the new Accord coupe is a great car that to me is already a more than worthy Prelude replacement.
I’m by no means knocking Hondas, so don’t get me wrong. I’ve owned EF, EG and EK Civics, DA, DC2 and DC5 Integras and CL1/CL7 Accord Euro R models as well as BB1/BB6 Preludes. Matter of fact, this year is the first year since 1994 that there hasn’t been a VTEC powered car in my garage. I hope to change that soon with the addition of an FD2 Type R next year.
But you have to admit, a rwd Prelude with the RDX’s turbo 4 would be a helluva thrill ride.

Are you still arguing with yourself, Ray?

Nissan is enjoying the fruits of their labor by having created this world-class supercar.

Why did they do it? To beat one specific car? Or was it setting out to create the industry standard?

With this GTR,

Is Nissan showing off a technological achievement? Absolutely.

Are they going to attract new buyers to the brand? Absolutely

Are they offering existing customers a type of car that otherwise would have to be bought from another company? Absolutely-

You can now graduate from a Z to a GTR, and bypass Porsche, Chevy, and Dodge.

I can assure you Nissan didn’t aim Solely at “taking out” ONE SPECIFIC CAR. Or maybe they did, CA36GTP…Maybe Nissan set out to “Solely take out the IS-F”

CA36GTP-you better get to work on making smarter comments and not work solely on taking anything out.

“The TSX is a great car (best resale of 07) but the nex one should have the 3.0 under the hood and so should the RDX.”

Because resale value makes a car great?

No wiseass
Build quality reliability along with technology, looks, performance makes a car great.
The TSX has it all. Im guessing you drive an American car bc you have no idea about resale and all the above mentioned

Who gives a **** that the TSX had best resale? If I was out there looking for THE car with the best resale I would buy it but I just DON’T WANT IT. I want a luxury car

Someone else might want a V8 which is not offered. Better interior and exterior styling..and so on and so forth. If it isn’t a good car, I am not gonna buy it just because of the resale. My BMW had GREAT resale when I traded it in…maybe not the best, but whatever – my BMW was and still is in a whole different league than the TSX.

Also, the TSX is ONE car. Does that mean that all Acura’s have high resales?? Not at all. They all have decent resales and so does every real luxury brand out there. I don’t understand how people like 1115 think they can make a connection between the TSX having the best resale value and EVERY car from Honda Motor Co having the best resale by default. That simply isn’t the case.

As an enthusiast I am excited about this automobile; as a realist the GT-R has many hurdles to jump to be in the established leagues it wants to be with the overall acceptance it wants to garner.

Would you people PLEASE quit hating and get back to fücking Deanster in the äss with a branch.

F451-

WTF? I think you just wrote your name in the history books as a true moron with your latest comment. What league are you in?

I’d say this GTR cleared all hurdles by leaps and bounds when it beat the Porsche 911 Turbo, Corvette Z06, and McLaren SLR around the ‘Ring.

Overall acceptance? Americans have been begging Nissan to bring the GTR to the party for decades. It is definitely one of, if not the most, anticipated cars in the history of the world. It is a car that for decades has been spoken about but not seen. It’s as legendary as they come. And apparently, it won’t disappoint.

Where have you been?

ray although i fully agree with the comments about a lot of anticipating this car (i used to play test drive 5, 8 or 9 years ago on playstation 1 and wondered why the little nissan was the best car in the game)i do give chevy AND nissan major credit for bringing world class supercars to the masses at a price most of us can actually eventually afford. it is great to see 2 bargain supercars with roughly the same performance numbers kick the italian and german supercars back across the pond. lets see how long it takes for a third car to be priced below 70 grand and be able to beat cars at the literally 10 times the price. i say thank the auto gods for the gt-r and z06.

@Ray Sinclair, Nissan is not where it used to be in the world players as it once was. I hope that it does do well, but there is more to the automotive industry, and its patrons that Nissan is up against. The popularity of this automobile will be more niche than general. General popularity is for those players like Porsche, Ferrari, and the like whom people, albeit they may not own them, recognize and would not mind owning them; The GT-R is not in those leagues. Take this any way you wish, as this is not a bias against Nissan.

^ i can see that point f451, ferrari noobs will just have to look at a set of $70g taillights disappear into the horizon. this is definately a car only the younger crowd in this country will know, the older croud will just see nissan.

F451-

Once again you are a moron.

If what you are saying is that people who don’t know squat about cars recognize the names Porsche and Ferrari, but do not and may not ever recognize the Nissan GTR, than fine. But who gives a ****? Apparently you do.

This car has a wild popularity for the car, not the brand. It’s as pure a popularity as you can find. There are no hurdles to jump.

The weight is what will keep this car from being truly exceptional. 3836 lbs does not a sports car make. Too bad.

LMAO! Ray Sinclair drives an Accrud and calls other people morons!

My biggest concern is that the GT-R’s test data does not paint a picture of an overall well rounded car.

Certainly one that is fast off the line and through and out of deep “holes” (Hard corners), but the top speed it achieved during it’s run at Nurbergring makes me think that it is not going to do as well on more moderate, commonly raced upon, tracks.

Corner sprinting cars usually show high average speeds around tight tracks, but really start to show their weakness for attaining higher speeds quickly on more open tracks. Most companies don’t post how long it takes to attain maximum speed. Whether it be weight of the vehicle (judging form the 0-60 time, that isn’t the issue) and/or gearing, something doesn’t jive here. It’s that icky feeling, like someone’s lying to me, that keeps me from liking this car at all right now.

I’m hunting for more data now. But I’m not too quick to admit to this cars greatness yet.

Blakkarr has put it best. There isn’t a true enthusiast in the world who will not be giving the GT-R the due it earns—when it earns it.
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Sinclair, Nissan’s “branding” and where it ranks among others is an important aspect. I am not necessarily big on branding, but it sells cars, and it plays an important part in resale. All the being said I owned an original 240Z when the company was called Datsun and the Z stood the automotive world on its ear by ending the definition of sports cars heretofore defined by other cars in its class, and I can tell you that the current Z does not match the character of the original. Let’s hope the GT-R is better at carrying on its entrusted legacy.

Saw the GTR today at LA. Couldn’t sit in it- but I did run my hand all over it. WHAT a car. There’s power in its every line. No softeed, committee dulled would be elgance. Just strength, and a certain brtual grace- that in totality- only came across as beauty. This is what I have to say: Whew!…. Wow! And for those of you on this blog who think- here goes another dude with his own personal ode to joy… then so be it.
The Reventon sat about eighty yards away in another hall, but I couldn’t picture myself driving it… and it didn’t get my pulse racing. Sure its great- and 1.4 million and change… But the GTR. DIfferent question altogether. Dollar for dollar- this may be the best car in the world right now.
Blakarr- I did think of you and Jamaican Dude duking it out on its demerits and merits respectively. And all I could think was- Its okay for you to have your mistrust of the brand- I mean that’s what life and living are about, agreements and arguments. But there are these few moments of magic when you see something in the flesh- and the raves and rants don’t matter anymore- just one’s connection with that which is in front of you. And so it was with the GTR. Let me see now- I’ve been 8 times to the SF and LA auto show. I haven’t felt this way for any machine ever. Anyway- this was my decision. I’m going to avoid the dealer markups and scalping period that will run 8 or 10 months. October of 2008, I’ll buy the GTR- Evo (the midrange version that’ll run about $80000 but will have 530bhp). And that will be one sweet, truly superb driving machine that I won’t have to pussyfoot around with- the way one might have to with other, five times as expensive exotics.

Correction to the above- October of 2009. Yes it seems very far away… I do have a friend though-who pays a lot to have the latest and the greatest right away. Wonder if he’d put down 70 or 75 on one of these… probably not- he’s a Euro-exotic kinda guy . Guess I’ll just wait. They do say though- that the best year to buy a car is the second year. All the kinks are ironed out in the first.

Way to high-tech a car to buy in the 1st year, expect more then a few bugs on a car of this level. New engine, new chassis, new trans, new AWD system, etc., etc.

“Dealers are predicting a $15,000 markup on the GT-R”
No kidding. Nissan dealers are some of the worst for marking up their cars when first released. My local dealer marked up the G35 and G37 when first released. Ridiculous.

The GT-R will be a great car but no way would I pay $95,000 for a $70,000 car. For $95k there are many cars as good or better than the GT-R.

The convo is about the GTR which is hott But the entire Honda brand have high resales and you cant deny it I can deny that americans are building so called “better” cars but there is no fact to back that up
The TSX is an entry level LUXURY car get with it The TSX wont offer a V8 and Im sure your CTS will have a high resale and be worth something in 10 years ………….or not hahahaha
Anyway what colors is this GTR going to come in ?

3858 lbs is the real weight, as per Nissan’s web site.
Pork heavy

1115: ” I can deny that americans are building so called “better” cars but there is no fact to back that up” <— you are absolutely right, you have no facts to back up your biased opinion.

The entire Honda brand does not have high resales. Just because the TSX has a good resale does NOT mean that ALL Hondas have good resales. That is a generalization and is not true – it simply doesnt work that way

What does Honda resale have to do with the GT-R having so many pre-orders?

OH GOD 1115 cant you get over yourself already, jeeeeez.

Wow 1115, i can honestly say that was one of the worst posts I’ve ever seen, and because of it I think I’m going to have to treat you like GM Sales, just laugh off everything you say, realizing your just looking for a laugh

$15 grand markup is ****ed up.

Oh god shut up Japanese cars especially Honda and Toyota have higher resale value due to their superior build quality. Thats has been the same for the last 20 years and counting and will continue
ALL Hondas have high resales. Higher than any comparable American vehicle The TSX has THE BEST resale value of 2007 not a “good” one
Check KBB buddy

Oh come on people! Who the hell cares about resale value when the GT-R’s Drive Computer was designed by video gamer designers!!!!!!!! Check this out: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cars/niss…ned-324672.php

And oh by the way — for those of you who don’t know — Grand Turismo is simply the best/most popular racing video game of all time…..

Resale is for chumps. That criterion should be bottom on any list of wants in any vehicle … unless you’re borderline-poverty-line living. The TSX is BLAND and BORING. No passionate enthusiast buys a TSX unless they can’t afford the accepted entry level lux brands. Most Hondas are unattractive, anyway. And the difference in reliability between most cars nowadays in negligible.

This GT-R is in another realm.

You are right. Owning a reliable car that holds it value means that you are poverty stricken. Also poverty stricken people buy entry level luxury cars. You are stupid as you are Impulsive
TSX is bland? That’s your opinion. I like it and the next one will look better. Most Honda’s are unattractive? I don’t think so. If they were that unattractive they wouldn’t sell. Japanese cars have a better record for reliability and its fact that can be proven in magazines and in a cars resale value. American cars are not there yet and I don’t see them there anytime soon

Yes the GTR is another realm and this Japanese car legend will be in high demand and hopefully people will drive them fast on the track and not on the highway drunk

the same tired old argument put by COMMODORE AND CTS DRIVER, just let them wallow in their own stupidity.
since when have american cars been better than japanese the rest of the world laughs at american cars.

The dealers can take their $15k markup and shove it where the sun don’t shine. $70k is a fair price for that car. $85k is a rip off. In 2 years they’ll be selling below sticker. Patience is a virtue.

cd5 you wierdo when have i ever argued any of those points im the one who has always said i like imports you down syndrom child, so go suck some monkey brains bozo and stop adding me to your post asspacker i stopped using you so stop making stuff up and puttin me in it. damn you are ****ing retarded. show me 1 thread where i made the same argument, you will never find it because you made it up. jeeeeeez you are an ass, if you wernt so stupid and blinded by your bias you could see i am at least fair and like all autos, unlike you and fluffy who need to say the same “20 years of quality **** sucking and ass ****ing have made us blind and stupid”
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so cd5 i challenge you to actually prove i have been bashing japaneese autos, then you can go **** your mom .

1115, you stupid import monkey … anyone who buys a TSX is too poor to buy a CTS (MotorTrend COT), 3 series, A4, etc. The TSX has a 4 cyl barely-200 hp engine with pathetic torque … FACT. And it’s priced a few thousand less than those competitors I just mentioned … FACT. And it’s bland and boring. Sales numbers mean nothing as to their relation to truly attractive vehicles. Witness the Accord and Camry as proof … FACT.

You are a joke. Go play with the monkeys.

Pimping the TSX, do you have no shame. You might as well be preaching about a Maytag. I would not make my wife drive one of those sorry little boring, souless appliances. Its a f***ing TSX and you talk like its a 911 or HEMI Cuda. Its Civic w/good motor and nice seats, thats all. Take your passion for resale and reliability to the JD Power fan sight for pocket protector wearing neeedle dicks.

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/content/nov2007/bw20071116_686255.htm?chan=autos_autos+index+page_top+stories
I think so

Shady Powers is a pay for play site (ask your wife about pay for play) A TSX isn’t a competitor to theCimmmaron or the overly expensive 3 series or the ignition coil failing A4. You can compare it to an Escalade also jackass You need to check the KBB site and see if the Cimmaron the A4 or the 3 series had the best resale value

If you dont think the Accord and Camry are attractive thats your opinion Most American consumers like something about them bc they are the best selling and GM Ford and Chrysler have not found a worthy competitor to them
You have a thing for monkeys huh I would love to see your old lady

I don’t care who comments on the Accord … it is not attractive and I have zero desire for that vehicle. Nobody is passionate about an Accord aesthetically, only its reliability … and the difference in reliability these days is neglible.

The CTS is desirable, its design is compelling, it is more attractive than an Accord …. probably why it won. I truly don’t care which car wins, only pointing out that many people admire it.

The Accord and Camry are not attractive by any measure … they are boring and bland people movers … enthusiasts are not passionate about either one. Reliability is their saving grace.

I keep posting FACTS, monkey … and you still don’t get it. No surprise.

Comment by Piablo: Unless your local dealer is a big-time performer, it probably won’t get a GT-R. And

it might not be on the lot long enough for you to see it, anyway.

2000: “This will be a legendary car, and it out performs cars well exceeding the cost.” Either that’s too

much hype, or your keyboard works faster than your brain.
“My father is considering this as a retirement present for himself.”
he and me, too!

j-dude “Their sales target was ridiculously low if you ask me.” Such seems to be the case.
HotMustard: “Kind of like a 70k nintendo wii.” Great characterization.

Madcapp; “a significant portion of those pre-orders are speculators wanting to make a quick 10-20

grand reselling the car.”
I hope they get done like the home-buying speculators did. Yee-haw!

Honda should consider bringing back the Prelude also no its not on the level performance wise with a

Supra or Skyline but I think if they made one it would sell

tripleonefive, j-dude:

Honda should buy some mustangs and slap “Hs” on them. Instant RWD Prelude. I did like the 4ws the

si4ws had, though.

Veda: I’d Like a GT-R for special occaisions, but to paraphrase W.C. fields, there’d probably be frequent

special occaisions

LP640: “Any fool can see that something as anticipated as this would have very high demand in the

market.” Well said.

larsim: I’ve never hated Nissan cars, but some of the company’s decisions have bothered me.

jonmiles: why mess this up with a bodykit?

“A luxury car in America should have 8 or more cylinders, and should not be a rebadged accord. The

TSX is a great car to NOT OWN

RWD is Fine, but not everyone can handle it. Even in snow, RWD is manageable.

Ray Sinclair: Nissan made this car because it could.

kosai03, Commodore: resale value is theoretical at best.

“Build quality reliability along with technology, looks, performance makes a car great.”
fair enough
“The TSX has it all.”
yeah, right!

Commodore: “I want a luxury car.”
Then you don’t want a TSX.

F451; “As an enthusiast I am excited about this automobile.” Being excited about this automobile simply

means you’re alive. I had a cousin who had an early 240Z, and he was a sports-car nut.

RicardoHead: “Ray Sinclair drives an Accrud and calls other people morons!” he’s not the only accord

driver here, but he may be the only one who calls his accord an accord.

sanfranmac: I did sit in the GT-R. Yes, it’s beautiful, though in a Michaela Pereira sort of way, as

opposed to a Jessica Simpson sort of way.

“The Reventon … didn’t get my pulse racing.”
I wound’t go that far, but the GT-R moved me more. Sor of comparing Metallica (back when they were

GOOD) to radiohead.
Nissan did make the best japanese car ever.

“the entire Honda brand have (sic) high resales and you cant (sic) deny it I can deny it.”
This is about the GT-R.
My honda was worth probably $1,000 on paper when i last saw it, but in real life, worth 0. not even

worth the towing fee. How’s that for resale value?

“The TSX is an entry level LUXURY car get with it” (sic)
Entry-level luxury? Nay, my olds might qualify as entry-level luxury (if there were such a thing), but an

accord?
No.

‘what colors is this GTR going to come in ?”
I want mine in silver or white.

Driven: “What does Honda resale have to do with the GT-R having so many pre-orders?” good question.

CTS: “1115 can’t you get over yourself already?” He’s in love with his own stupidity.

J-dude: “$15 grand markup is ****ed up.” I agree, but that’s what happens when people don’t show

guts.

tripleonefluffer: “Japanese cars especially Honda and Toyota have higher resale value due to their

superior build quality.” That’s either a woefully surreal opinion or an outright lie. Again, this is a GT-R

thread.

larsim: “Grand Turismo is simply the best racing video game of all time.” That’s straight Gospel! As is

Impulsive’s following post.

1115: “Owning a reliable car means a person is NOT YOU!

I like the way you talk about how great hondas are (dndl!), then shift to talk about “Japanese cars,” so

that your bull**** sounds stronger than it is. No doubt the GT-R and for that matter, the altima coupe

will be great, but you’re unlikey to approve of either.

Z06ified: you have the right attitude.

Impulsive: “anyone who buys a TSX is too poor to buy a CTS.” Too poor and/or too DUMB. And, the

Fluffer is too dumb to play with the monkeys.

SwerveEarly: “It’s Civic w/good motor and nice seats, thats all.” a not-terrible motor, maybe.

Fluffer: “Who let the dogs out was a #1 hit. What’s your point?

TSX is a competitor to corolla

Maybe who let the dogs out was your fav song but it wasnt mine
TSX is a entry level luxury car I wouldnt expect someone who has owned a Tempo to understand that but I think you have some common sense
THis is a GTR thread but you know Commo knows that the Japanese are building superior vehicles and you wont admit it due to your patriotic ignorance
I own one of the most praised reliable luxury cars and in my opinion the best car on the road today for the money. I beleive you are trying to buy a Rendezvous 2 lol
Haha

I thought you owned an accord. Aparrently, you also own a luxury car