Comments on: Nissan’s electric vehicle strategy includes separately leased batteries http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:21:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: horvatic http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-419086 horvatic Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:15:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-419086 That's the dumbest idea I've ever heard of. That's like saying okay here's your new car, would you like a motor to go with it? Oh, and by the way, you can't buy the motor only lease it for this amount every month! Let's double dip into customers wallets and make them pay twice for there vehicle with extortion by making them pay separate for the one thing it needs most, the batteries! And the auto industry wonders why they are nearly out of business with STUPID ideas like this one! IDIOTS! I'm only glad that this actually came from another countries auto manufacturer and not a US one. That’s the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard of. That’s like saying okay here’s your new car, would you like a motor to go with it? Oh, and by the way, you can’t buy the motor only lease it for this amount every month!
Let’s double dip into customers wallets and make them pay twice for there vehicle with extortion by making them pay separate for the one thing it needs most, the batteries!
And the auto industry wonders why they are nearly out of business with STUPID ideas like this one!

IDIOTS!
I’m only glad that this actually came from another countries auto manufacturer and not a US one.

]]> By: jayjc08 http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-419028 jayjc08 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:21:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-419028 No, of course they can't leave it just that fvcking simple, they have to make the idea more complex, destroy the value of not having to pay for gas or any other such service. It's just another way to make people less independent. deutschetouring1337- Maybe you've done your research, but your missing a lot of common sense. What your post said to me was the only way to upgrade the batteries were to lease them, and that they'll eventually run out of juice. I doubt the lease will guarantee either of those two. I'm sure you can upgrade the batteries without a lease, unless there's a monopoly on it, they just needs to be engineered to be replaced. It's just another way to have strings attached, and just another debt to lease the batteries. In the long run, you'll most likely spend just as much money if not more to lease the batteries than purchasing new ones, so what's the point? Leases shouldn't be the only option to guarantee check ups/regular maintenance, just like a gasoline powered car. Electric only saves you money in terms of both the electric car and hybrid your talking about costing the same. As the tech is now, electric cars cost and will be costing more than gasoline vehicles, as long as their coming from mainstream, set-depth automakers that is. And gd damn, GM couldn't have made money from their EV program, simple as that. It's just rhetoric, recycled shlt about GM killing the electric car. Sure, it was a good idea, but GM just wouldn't have made money off of it. You'd think if they really wanted to kill the electric car, they wouldn't have been coming out with the Volt now... but people just ignore common sense. . . . What agitates me the most is no matter what, companies and the government don't want you to be independent, financially or economically. If I don't get stuck paying for gas, I'll be stuck in a lease. Road tax, internet tax... Ah, what are you all waiting for, they'll be passed anyway, right? That's all your mindset... Doesn't matter what the people think... I honestly don't have much trust or heart in any automaker right now. No, of course they can’t leave it just that fvcking simple, they have to make the idea more complex, destroy the value of not having to pay for gas or any other such service. It’s just another way to make people less independent.

deutschetouring1337- Maybe you’ve done your research, but your missing a lot of common sense. What your post said to me was the only way to upgrade the batteries were to lease them, and that they’ll eventually run out of juice. I doubt the lease will guarantee either of those two. I’m sure you can upgrade the batteries without a lease, unless there’s a monopoly on it, they just needs to be engineered to be replaced. It’s just another way to have strings attached, and just another debt to lease the batteries. In the long run, you’ll most likely spend just as much money if not more to lease the batteries than purchasing new ones, so what’s the point? Leases shouldn’t be the only option to guarantee check ups/regular maintenance, just like a gasoline powered car.

Electric only saves you money in terms of both the electric car and hybrid your talking about costing the same. As the tech is now, electric cars cost and will be costing more than gasoline vehicles, as long as their coming from mainstream, set-depth automakers that is.

And gd damn, GM couldn’t have made money from their EV program, simple as that. It’s just rhetoric, recycled shlt about GM killing the electric car. Sure, it was a good idea, but GM just wouldn’t have made money off of it. You’d think if they really wanted to kill the electric car, they wouldn’t have been coming out with the Volt now… but people just ignore common sense.

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What agitates me the most is no matter what, companies and the government don’t want you to be independent, financially or economically. If I don’t get stuck paying for gas, I’ll be stuck in a lease. Road tax, internet tax… Ah, what are you all waiting for, they’ll be passed anyway, right? That’s all your mindset… Doesn’t matter what the people think… I honestly don’t have much trust or heart in any automaker right now.

]]> By: wideopenthrottle http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-419012 wideopenthrottle Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:08:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-419012 Sorry the submit button snuck up on me. If you could add an extra battery pack or three to increase the range and/or performance of your car, then it sounds good to me Sorry the submit button snuck up on me.
If you could add an extra battery pack or three to increase the range and/or performance of your car, then it sounds good to me

]]> By: wideopenthrottle http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-419011 wideopenthrottle Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:05:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-419011 The good thing about this is if they come out with a newer, more efficient battery design, the buyer isn't left kicking themselves because now they have inferior batteries. I know my cell phone battery wore out after about a year of use, and I had to replace it. And can you add more batteries to make it faster??? The good thing about this is if they come out with a newer, more efficient battery design, the buyer isn’t left kicking themselves because now they have inferior batteries. I know my cell phone battery wore out after about a year of use, and I had to replace it.
And can you add more batteries to make it faster???

]]> By: elviososa http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-418999 elviososa Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:18:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-418999 IF PEOPLE CAN UPGRADE THOSE BATTERIES, IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA FROM NISSAN IF PEOPLE CAN UPGRADE THOSE BATTERIES, IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA FROM NISSAN

]]> By: saabaru1 http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-418996 saabaru1 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:11:00 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-418996 Quote from 441zuke "**** you NI$$AN" and from Borat 11/14, 5:34 PMposted by:Borat 441Zuke, is it legal in your state? You can arrested for that in mine. F--ing Nissans is okay here, as long as you dont try it on an older Datsun!!!! Quote from 441zuke
“**** you NI$$AN”
and from Borat
11/14, 5:34 PMposted by:Borat
441Zuke, is it legal in your state? You can arrested for that in mine.

F–ing Nissans is okay here, as long as you dont try it on an older Datsun!!!!

]]> By: deutschetouring1337 http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-418993 deutschetouring1337 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:03:21 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-418993 oops I meant you can't drive around the world in a gasoline powered car but you can with a diesel. oops I meant you can’t drive around the world in a gasoline powered car but you can with a diesel.

]]> By: deutschetouring1337 http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-418992 deutschetouring1337 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:01:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-418992 Very smart move considering the cost to keep these batteries charged and conditioned right because once your drop below a certain voltage you ruin them and they steadily decline in charging. Leasing also leaves it open if something better than Li-on comes out you can upgrade without being stuck with old technology, apparently you guys haven't done your research on the Tech state of batteries. Electric cars DO save money comparing kilowatt of power vs 30mpg in a hybrid using petrol combined, mpg with petrol/electric raises the mpg you see advertised. Electric cars are the future as much as I love a throaty V8 or a turbocharged 4 cylinder they are EOL, Diesels make better use of petrol and now are even cleaner aside from co2 emissions vs pollutants expelled. The new Road tax the US will have like the UK is right around the corner, and of all sides Republicans were the ones who proposed it to tax hybrids since they use less gasoline but use roadways just as much, and Democrats took the Enviro side. So both sides support a Road tax its just a matter of time when they implement it. Why do you think Obama made a push for EV and Hybrids, GM shouldn't be bailed out because they were a HUGE influence along with Chevron to kill the EV programs in the 90s. GM COULD have saved the industry and as a side effect the environment per se. The market has favored those like Honda, Toyota, Peugeot, VW with their diesel options in Europe & The world and since the US has yet to favor diesels we see the outcome of why Diesels should have replaced gasoline engines here in the US, a declining gasoline engine market. You can drive around the world in a gasoline powered car, but you can with a Diesel. Diesel in any form is sold in every country, thats why people who drive around the world use diesel powered cars because you can barter for diesel. Ever watch the TopGear episode when they drove across Africa, and the Diesel Mercedes was fine but they had to hunt down and carry extra Gasoline for the other two cars. Very smart move considering the cost to keep these batteries charged and conditioned right because once your drop below a certain voltage you ruin them and they steadily decline in charging. Leasing also leaves it open if something better than Li-on comes out you can upgrade without being stuck with old technology, apparently you guys haven’t done your research on the Tech state of batteries. Electric cars DO save money comparing kilowatt of power vs 30mpg in a hybrid using petrol combined, mpg with petrol/electric raises the mpg you see advertised. Electric cars are the future as much as I love a throaty V8 or a turbocharged 4 cylinder they are EOL, Diesels make better use of petrol and now are even cleaner aside from co2 emissions vs pollutants expelled. The new Road tax the US will have like the UK is right around the corner, and of all sides Republicans were the ones who proposed it to tax hybrids since they use less gasoline but use roadways just as much, and Democrats took the Enviro side. So both sides support a Road tax its just a matter of time when they implement it. Why do you think Obama made a push for EV and Hybrids, GM shouldn’t be bailed out because they were a HUGE influence along with Chevron to kill the EV programs in the 90s. GM COULD have saved the industry and as a side effect the environment per se. The market has favored those like Honda, Toyota, Peugeot, VW with their diesel options in Europe & The world and since the US has yet to favor diesels we see the outcome of why Diesels should have replaced gasoline engines here in the US, a declining gasoline engine market. You can drive around the world in a gasoline powered car, but you can with a Diesel. Diesel in any form is sold in every country, thats why people who drive around the world use diesel powered cars because you can barter for diesel. Ever watch the TopGear episode when they drove across Africa, and the Diesel Mercedes was fine but they had to hunt down and carry extra Gasoline for the other two cars.

]]> By: ckron247 http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-418940 ckron247 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:17:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-418940 At first I thought the idea is silly. But I guess this might be what to expect from all companies, once a large majority of cars on the market are electric. I wonder if that will open a competitive market to lease those batteries from third party companies. Similar to tires (minus the leasing part of it), gives the consumer an option to find batteries that will last longer or are better quality, better value, or possibly high performance. It would be pointless to lease those batteries from the company your purchasing the car from separately. Unless the battery only has a limited amount of time the are actually usable. Where as, you lease the battery for a couple years, bring it to the dealership, trade in your old battery for a new or upgraded battery and pop the new one into your car. Kinda interesting concept. At first I thought the idea is silly. But I guess this might be what to expect from all companies, once a large majority of cars on the market are electric. I wonder if that will open a competitive market to lease those batteries from third party companies. Similar to tires (minus the leasing part of it), gives the consumer an option to find batteries that will last longer or are better quality, better value, or possibly high performance.

It would be pointless to lease those batteries from the company your purchasing the car from separately. Unless the battery only has a limited amount of time the are actually usable. Where as, you lease the battery for a couple years, bring it to the dealership, trade in your old battery for a new or upgraded battery and pop the new one into your car. Kinda interesting concept.

]]> By: Jaralaccs http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-418935 Jaralaccs Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:07:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-418935 The point is to stop producing CO2 emissons and reduce dependency on foreign oil. Was a prius built to save people money? no The point is to stop producing CO2 emissons and reduce dependency on foreign oil.
Was a prius built to save people money? no

]]> By: Borat http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-418927 Borat Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:34:43 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-418927 441Zuke, is it legal in your state? You can arrested for that in mine. 441Zuke, is it legal in your state? You can arrested for that in mine.

]]> By: 441Zuke http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-418920 441Zuke Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:21:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-418920 fuck you NI$$AN fuck you NI$$AN

]]> By: HoosierHero http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-418918 HoosierHero Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:10:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-418918 So why buy electric if the cost of ownership is the same?- lol exactly Mayer So why buy electric if the cost of ownership is the same?- lol exactly Mayer

]]> By: Mutant@DCX http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-418913 Mutant@DCX Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:50:52 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-418913 onstar payments, sirius subscription... now batteries and the payments keep going... and going... and onstar payments, sirius subscription…

now batteries

and the payments keep going… and going… and

]]> By: mayer_ray_nagin http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-418911 mayer_ray_nagin Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:28:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-418911 So why buy electric if the cost of ownership is the same? The only reason I would want to buy a batt separately from the vehicle is if there are competing batts that I can get at Autozone for a lot less that fit the vehicle. Otherwise, what would be the point? Spreading the cost out? ... yeah - it's called getting a loan. Loans and payments suck. So why buy electric if the cost of ownership is the same?

The only reason I would want to buy a batt separately from the vehicle is if there are competing batts that I can get at Autozone for a lot less that fit the vehicle. Otherwise, what would be the point? Spreading the cost out? … yeah – it’s called getting a loan. Loans and payments suck.

]]> By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissans-electric-vehicle-strategy-includes-separately-leased-batteries.html#comment-418910 johnnycanuck Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:27:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=11480#comment-418910 It's Japanese. The fact that batteries aren't included should surprise no one. It’s Japanese. The fact that batteries aren’t included should surprise no one.

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