Damb strait, those people don’t have respect for a true American muscle car anyway!

good. we can’t handle too many of these meat-mobiles anyway. if i see one more plastic psudo-hot rod i’m gonna puke. xxxxing meatheads.

what? Europe gets tons of cars the America cant get and this is dumb? A4, i think that this is perfect. besides its an American Muscle car. lol.

This a sweet automobile, but limited production means that it’ll be overpriced by $10k and hard to find. Sucks for people who actually want one. Oh well, there’s always the new Camaro!

They obviously followed Ford. I like these cars, but then again like most old/retro junk (old Rollers and Astons for example). A Challenger looks great in, say, California, but not in Chelsea.

There are plenty of grey market importers that will get the Challenger to Europe. The bigger problem is why would Cerebus want limited numbers on a ‘mainstream’ model?

Chevrolet is going to sell truckloads of Camaros.

Just like the Mustang, there will probably be a ’sell-the-challenger-here’ groups in Europe, but it won’t happen. And yes, the camara will sell truckloads of Truckloads

I like this move by Chrysler. I hate to say this but it is kinda of a ferrari esque move in the sense that they could produce a bunch more but why flood the market with a product they KNOW is going to sale. Lets just give people a couple and watch the consumers who really want one come out in crazy numbers. Then they can brag about how there is a year long watinging list to get your new dodge challenger.

GOOD, the euroweenies wouldnt like it anyways, it actually has a concept that eludes the europhiles…………..torque.

Chevrolet is going to sell truckloads of Camaros.

GOOD, we don’t WANT it any ways, for here we happen to have this concept that keeps eluding the American car industry………….. quality.

(In before a biased rant from GM_SALES)

yeah if the camaro is gonna be more common its gonna b have less value. and the challenger will be the car to be seen in.

Chrysler needs cash flow, making the Challenger ‘exclusive’ is not a move they can afford to make. There must be something up…

Actually, a lot of American products do well in the JD Power Survey.

Beautiful cars are never devalued. As long as the Camaro handles decently, the car will be an instant classic, no matter how common it is.

quality….from the continent that brings us range rover and volkswagen, hahahahahahahahah.

This is an excellent move by Cerberus… er Chrysler. They have already stated that they are not trying to build cars for the masses, like Ford or GM, they are going to build niche cars. This will be the first car of any of the marques that they will actually build a good quality car. No hand-me-down, cheapened Mercedes parts (Even though it is loosely based off of the LX platform, no more cheap interior plastics, no more floppy handling, no more ill-fitting pieces. They are definitely getting their quality up before they bring out any other cars. This is the first step in a huge transition for the company. With Cerberus’s deep pockets, and the recent overhaul of the company, there should be some interesting things coming from Chrysler. I can’t wait to see the next Viper.

anyways enough flaming, this is going to bring a lot of older prople into dodge showrooms i still really dont know anybody younger than me thats even aware there was a challenger in the 1970`s, the only reason they know now is this car. so limited production might be a really good move.

oops, should have been “this is the only reason they know the challenger name”

I was young enough to watch Dukes of Hazard and is the only reason why I can recognize a Challenger so the under 30 crows is ignorant of it. It is too retro to be mainstream anyway so Cerebus did the right thing. If only it doesn’t come with a monochromatic interior.

Europeans would never wan this car anyway. They require a car that can handle. Muscle cars traditionally have always been low-quality cars with respect to bonafide performance. Sure, they had horsepower, but they were not fine cars by any stretch of the imagination.

a Confederate flag on the roof should be an option

Confederate flag? Great, that’ll help race relations. Anyways, it doesn’t matter whether or not people recognize the Challenger name. The looks sweet, and they could call it something stupid like Malibu and it would still sell!

Maximus: funny as hell. Maybe there’ll be a spoecial “married to your cousin” discount. I like the idea of marking this as a special vehicle. It’s what should have been done with the PT cruiser

Maximus has spoken a great truth.

lmao.

yes! Maximus needs to be hired by Chrysler. Maybe he has some styling secrets that Chrysler can use.

I agree with many—-every time a car co comes out with a popular new car, they make it hard to get which allows the dealer to scalp the public. Look at ford and the shellby 500. I REFUSE to pay a surcharge and it will also keep from buying the brand. There are no fords in my future and apparently no dodges. I HATE THESE DEALERS

Noah: I understand your point, but when these things flood the market, they become less special. The solution is to stick a no-dicker price on them

Jack

I agree with you, but for some reason the car co just refuse to see the damage the dealers are causing and the hard feelings that it creates with autophiles.

they can build 100 of these things for all i care, as long as i get MINE!

Hopefully they will have LOTS of Demand for this and triple the output of these in 2009 and after that as that is what they need to get them out of the toilet.. and yes they will be giving away larket share to the Camaro by not making very many… and as far as the Mustang… WHO CARES, its a Fix Or repair Daily machine (FORD)

VERY PRETTY car the challeneger though and nice (proposed) performance as well so I hope they have a LONG run and sell lots of them as they are sweet…

Europeans would never wan this car anyway. They require a car that can handle. Muscle cars traditionally have always been low-quality cars with respect to bonafide performance. Sure, they had horsepower, but they were not fine cars by any stretch of the imagination.

Comment by Italiafan, posted on August31 at 1:57 pm
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. name 1 mass produced italian car that was sold in america that can change my mind.
germans have merc,audi and bmw (i like my 5 for sure)
brits have land rover.
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so other than uberexpensive seldom driven cars the italians havnt made anything i can think of.
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awesome

italiafan: a ‘70 Chevelle SS454 — much as I like it, has poor handling, compared even to some of today’s econoboxes. But, they’ve all figured it out now

Dodge 0wnz!

Beautiful car. They hit this right on the nose, the challengers styling really is timeless because even today it looks modern with very few changes to it. The next Mustang had better be good or its going to lose sales to the ‘maro. I have a feeling like its going to be though, with the new boss motors coming and it finally having IRS, its going to be a condendor.

Camaro will be too common? What a lame excuse – look at the Mustang! They sold a million copies in the first couple years

cookie4me.. what does having watched The Dukes of Hazzard have to do with your knowing what a Dodge Challenger is? The car used in that show was a Dodge Charger.

This makes total sense for several reasons. The Mustang, with arguably no current competition, outsells Ford’s own bread-and-butter Five Hundred at about 200,000 units a year. Once the Camaro arrives I would expect the market for this type of vehicle to increase, but the two will have to split those sales — say 125-150K units per year each. So where does that leave the Challenger? Limiting production to 50,000 units a year or so would make the Challenger more desirable, improve resale value, and at the same time reduce its impact on the total corporate CAFE fuel economy numbers Chrysler is panicking about.

This is going to be a great car, and the europeans do want it. Limiting the numbers will cause a great rush for the car and people will pay through their teeth for it. So it will be a small boost for Chrysler. This will hopefully give Chrysler a bit of boost in image and do something to repair the damage the Sebring, Caliber, Avenger, and all other Jepp products based on the Compass did.

Looks like its been “Boyd” out. Looks like an aftermarket car. No imagination what-so-ever.
Too literal translation of the original. Original had its time and place but doesnt translate well. Huge overhangs dont help the look.
Lacks imagination. Looks generic and dipped

Listen out on a calm night all you east coastmen and you may hear the moans and wails of anguish carrying across the ocean from European shores. This news will be received with heavy heart, striking a piercing blow into the very souls of the lands of your ancestors – how could you do this to us? How?
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Oh the pain, the suffering! How will we go on?

The Challenger might be a nice looking muscle car that dates back to the 1970’s but there’s more to style and speed. Handling/cornering and driving feel are also important as Europeans I think find this crucial when buying a sports car. Having said that, I do disagree with the new owners of Chrysler’s decision to only offer this car in the United States. After all, why should Americans be the only ones to have some fun?

Those poetry books are really working out. It would make too much sense for them to produce a car that people like in mass quantities.

got handling, most Europeans want something taut and German, not floppy and American.

I hope it doesnt have one of those elcheapo interiors found on other dodges. anyways, its awesome with the srt pkg.

Sunshine1810… I also think Europe should get a few, but consider for a moment how many cars Europe gets, that we in the States don’t! That’s what dissapoints me!

One car I like to cite is the European Civic vs. American Civic. Everything from the driving, to the styling is far much ahead of the American ones, and the American versions differences make it look like crap. Sorry Honda, but if you’re not willing to give my market the best of what you have at the best price, I’m not even going to contend. I could name a whole list of cars that America doesn’t get, that would probably do well, that are in my opinion better than the American versions!

I don’t understand why everyone complains about Dodges interior… I haven’t sat in any of their sedans, but their truck interiors are fairly nice. Simple, flat and bold design, and they have fairly good quality too them. Nothing special, but nothing to complain about either.

haters.. nothing more, nothing less. i’ve often wondered how an immense disdain for out current government somehow correlates to an all encompassing disdain for out auto industry. yes.. we all know that Detroit was putting out some crap years ago… but they have made and are continuing to make vast improvements. i don’t like the current administration as much as the next guy, more so infact because those currently in power claim to be from the same party as I, though they show no semblance of being republican… nonetheless I find it both ironic and puzzling that I heard markedly less Detroit bashing just 10-15 years ago when ol’ slick willy was in office even though their products were markedly worse than they are now. simple coincidence somehow bucking rational thought? i don’t think so.

Civic is still cramped, noisy and unimpressive

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There is probably some sentiment the “coupes don’t sell” at Chrysler. Either way, Chrysler, as Daimler-Chrysler, had said they would only be making 20,000 units a year tops. Far less than than the numbers of Mustangs made for sell and what is expected for the Camaro.

It doesn’t surprise me that the Challenger will not be sold in Europe, as if I care. European tastes seem to exclude most American concepts of automobiles. The General Idea of a muscle car is lost on most Europeans, regardless of how much their gas costs. In Japan, they love our muscle cars, especially because they are big loud boisterous beasts. When you don’t want to be polite, drive an American car (LOL). But again I don’t care.

I am hoping for a limited number of Challengers that way every fool and their dog isn’t driving one like they are with Mustangs and later Camaros. Uniqueness shouldn’t cost as much as a house. That much I’m certain of.

Now how about a new Barracuda, and maybe that Firepower-thingy?

i find it funny all the talk about camaro when the true winner of the gm pony car stakes was the firebird. camaro ALWAYS took a back seat to the firebird after 1970, yet somehow it lives on…..would have loved to see pontiac take camaro to the whipping shed again, but the gm/chevy higher ups wont allow it to happen….. as for the challenger, ive always loved the design, like the new mustang, but the almost exact copying makes me wonder who us cashing checks with the design teams….more importantly, what will the NEXT gen look like for the challenger/mustang?? THEN we’ll see who is earning their pay…..

The firebird is one of my favorite cars, murphy1. It had till it’s last day of existance, a sporty and unique design, something that could actually be called a Pontiac! I pray though that they don’t turn the Firebird into a muscle car, but a sleek sports car like the last generation Firebird.

I would hope for the same, but GM isn’t going to throw out a new platform for just one car.

There is the Chevrolet SS concept, which amounted to, at least visually, a Corvette Sedan. Hem it in to a 2+2 coupe and that could be a new Firebird. But GM already said a few years back, when the New Camaro was just becoming a topic of discussion, that there would not be a new Firebird. The best we can hope for is a new GTO. Because, as we all know, when GM says they are going to build something truly exciting, they mean “maybe” and when they say they won’t… They will NOT.

This might have changed but I won’t hold my breath.

blakkar – a big thumbs up to “that firepower thingy!”

When they unveiled that concept I was immediately smitten. I’m usually not one for coupes but I think the Firepower is one fine-looking, well-proportioned automobile. I liked that instead of another “retro” concept, Chrysler decided to take their own interpretation of a modern classic – the Viper. Frankly I think it’s a mistake not to produce that car even if in semi-limited numbers, as all of the r&d has been spent already. The Firepower would basically be Chrysler’s answer to the Cadillac XLR. It would share the same platform as the Viper just like the XLR shares a platform with the Corvette, yet it would use the “tamer” hemi instead of the V10, just like the Cadillac uses the “tamer” Northstar. It wouldn’t be marketed as an out and out, purebred sports car, but more as a grand-tourer, more of a “gentleman’s sports car.” Soften the ride a bit, give it a posh interior with every piece of technology that Chrysler has at it’s disposal and sell it for $50K. It would sell. It wouldn’t affect the Viper whatsoever and would undercut the XLR by $25-30K. Chrysler used to be really good at getting concepts onto the showroom floor, and a model such as the Firepower would be just the ticket to reassert themselves and prove that there is a life after Diamler.

Good…We do not need that retro vehicle of mass emission over here.

^^ but you need 6.2L V8s, 5.0L V10s, and 5.5L V12s?

Wow Aston Martin, I assumed that it would be the septics who didn’t get irony. I didn’t think that a snobbish Brit would have a problem with it.
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And for the record, most Europeans want something lithe and Italian.

You obviously haven’t seen the amount of idiots in BMW 6 Series’s and Merc SL’s compared to the amount of people in Ferraris or Maseratis.

Some of us are not thinking about cars all the time you naughty little cum-guzzling frott-monkey.

Who cares about this ****box? It’s destiny is to fail and be forgotten, a la PT CRuiser or Prowler.

They need to develop a new sporty hatchback, the Demon, and a new sporty midsize sedan. Those are the priorities, not a bloated 25 foot long “muscle car” that will be hard to find.

And while they’re at it, they should fix the all the problems with the new Wrangler and put a decent engine in it.

Sounds like Cerberus crunched some numbers and found they can’t make much profit on selling Challengers, so they’re going to limit production and pitch it as a halo car. Cerberus is only in Chrysler for the Jeep brand anyway. They’ll prop up Jeep’s performance in the next 2-5 years, and sell it off separately for more than they paid for Chrysler as a group. Then, whatever they sell from what is left of Chrysler is pure gravy for them. Watch.

Z06: Lots of analysts have told me pretty much what you just suggested