Comments on: Obama declares “tin foil” Ford Granada “the worst car that Detroit ever built”

By: Ford granada1

Ford granada1 — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:50:55 +0000

My First car was my dads old Granada. It was a white 1976 coupe with a 351 cleveland in it. I got the car with 75,000 miles. Nine years later and 200,000 and a engine rebiuld. Car runs great. No rust. Best car i have ever driven. And it keeps on going.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:24:55 +0000

Here’s a hint, LLN: when someone uses the phrase “may be,” he’s not “declaring.”
I’m voting for Frank E. McEnulty. I’d vote for root or Palin as Prez, but not as Veep.
Hell, anybody’d be a better president than Li’l Jorge!
Worst detroit car ever?
Pontiac Fiero!

By: lamboz get a life

lamboz get a life — Wed, 14 May 2008 18:36:06 +0000

is that the lady who lives in the trailer across the street from your Mom’s?
Lamo Z, my list of worst cars from your short lifetime-
Honda Ridgline
BMW X-6
Hummer H-3
Toyota Tundra
Toyota SUVs
Pontiac Sunfire
Mercury Capri(the convertible Austrailian one)
Kia Rondo
Jeep Compass
Any Hyundai from the late 80′s and 90′s
Triple One Fagboys Mom’s “new” car, 1987 Acura Legend.

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Tue, 13 May 2008 00:51:41 +0000

GAYMGoff is completely wrong as usual
A woman in my neighborhood had an 81 Honda Accord 4 door just as a side not they all seem to come in light blue and the hood opened forward and was a pain to do any work on Luckily it only needed oil and not much more She gave it to her mother with over 170 k trouble free miles about 10 yrs back. I never bothered to ask if it was still running but Im sure it is
The Older Honda’s where great just like the new ones. Notice how there were NO Japanese cars on that link above and that anyone has mentioned so far

By: AMGoff

AMGoff — Sat, 10 May 2008 18:51:46 +0000

Just like everyone on here… Obama took some personal experience and used it out of context to make some sweeping assertion. While the Granada may have been a “tin can,” relative to that time period and that market segment, the honor of “worst” would actually be better bestowed upon the ’79-’84 Olds Delta 88 with the wretched 5.7L diesel… That diesel was possibly the lowest point for GM of that time… Just like when I mentioned it when tripleonefag tried to point out the Cadillac “4-5-6″ as the worst engine failure in those second-generation Sevilles, but if anyone knew what they were talking about… they’d know that honor goes to that Olds diesel.

But I do agree… anyone who thinks LLN is biased towards the domestic manufacturers is way off base, because they went and purposely asked about the “worst domestic,” and despite what some people may think… anyone old enough to remember knows full well that there were some pretty horrible Japanese cars way back when… The Mazda RX-2 comes to mind… as does the original Honda Accord – which was an out-and-out little shit-box..

By: rodeo40

rodeo40 — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:28:12 +0000

Hey E60M5…don’t forget about the auto executives from Detroit…now THEY are worthless.

By: E60M5

E60M5 — Fri, 09 May 2008 11:26:57 +0000

come on Obama pretty much everything froom detroit is worthless. Ford, Eminem, GM, Madonna, Kid rock e.t.c the list goes on……………and on………………………and on.

By: TOZO

TOZO — Fri, 09 May 2008 05:57:01 +0000

AFTER THAT COMMENT, OBAMA SHOULD DO THE HONORABLE THING AND DROP OUT OF THE RACE! ENOUGH OF HIS BULL! DISGRACEFUL!

By: olds307

olds307 — Thu, 08 May 2008 22:55:11 +0000

If Obama was really smart he would have answered AMC Pacer… it would be a popular and common answer, and you wouldn’t be bashing any of the automakers because the AMC brand is long gone.

By: injunraiv

injunraiv — Thu, 08 May 2008 16:56:48 +0000

I didn’t vote for W’s grandfather, and I ain’t going to vote for Obama’s, either.

By: loudpedal

loudpedal — Thu, 08 May 2008 16:42:37 +0000

My first car was a silver 1976 2-door Granada. It was slow, didn’t handle great, got 15 mpg at best, and with a 3-speed auto, taking it over 65 would redline the engine but it did give me 185,000 nearly trouble-free miles. It was OK for what it was. I wouldn’t ever want to own one again, though.

By: SSEAN54

SSEAN54 — Thu, 08 May 2008 16:36:22 +0000

OBAMA SUCKS AND SO DOES HIS BITCH WIFE.
THE GRANADA HERE WAS A DECENT CAR. THEY LASTED THROUGH THE 90′S.

By: Carwatcher

Carwatcher — Thu, 08 May 2008 16:34:40 +0000

My late grandfather had a Granada. He bought it new in 1976 and kept it for 20 years.

By: Bubs Solo

Bubs Solo — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:44:57 +0000

W’S grandpa dealt with the nazi’s before and during WWll. What could Obama’s Grandpa have done that could be worse??

By: injunraiv

injunraiv — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:41:14 +0000

According to Tim Lahaye (sp?) the rapture comes before the rise of the antichrist. I don’t think this is him…

Isn’t it surprising the topics that can come up in an automotive news thread?

By: Buhbye

Buhbye — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:34:58 +0000

Could be the beginning of the rapture. I’ve heard his pastor speak. I would like to hear more history on his grandpa…

By: injunraiv

injunraiv — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:19:33 +0000

Come on, he CAN’T be worse than W. Or can he?

By: Buhbye

Buhbye — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:13:31 +0000

Did Obamas grandpa maintain the car, or drive it like he stole it? If it had been an Opel Kadett (my vote for worst car), Dodge Colt (Japanese car) or a Honda Civic, with the front shock towers rusting out and going throught the hood at 50,000 miles, Obama probably wouldn’t have said anything about cars. He should run for president in Japan. Worst presidential candidate we ever had……

By: DeansterTJ

DeansterTJ — Thu, 08 May 2008 12:36:28 +0000

Buick Century from the 1980′s. Unholy shitbox from hell. Spent more time at the shop than the mechanics themselves.

By: JohnnyBlazE

JohnnyBlazE — Thu, 08 May 2008 12:09:37 +0000

Come to the UK and see the Ford Granada/Scorpio we had (Merkur Scorpio there) and you’ll see a car that was big, roomy, had loads of space and cruise oh so well on the motorway. Handled a bit like a boat though…

Never had a comfier ride than in our granada – mercs paled in comparision and I’ve been in an S600 AMG

As for reliability, well ours lasted from 1989 to 2000 and we only let it go because it wasn’t worth sorting the autobox

By: LamborghiniZ

LamborghiniZ — Thu, 08 May 2008 05:24:26 +0000

You guys are pathetic insulting Obama…grow a fucking brain.

Worst car? That’s a hard one…I’ll have to choose the worst during my lifetime.

- Chevy Blazer/Trailblazer + Clones
-Chevy Cavalier + Clones
-Chevy Astro + Clones

Those are the first three that really came to mind, although all parties of the Big 3 are guilty of some of the biggest monster automotive atrocities in existence.

By: hateful83

hateful83 — Thu, 08 May 2008 04:06:57 +0000

I have no opinion on the worst car. I do have an opinion on some I’ve seen be pretty bullet proof. Chevy Celebrity – as mentioned, mid to late 80′s Volvo’s, late 80′s early 90′s Dodge Dakota’s. These stand out to me as being above average as far a reliability.

By: sprockkets

sprockkets — Thu, 08 May 2008 02:51:15 +0000

Time Magazine: Saying the Explorer is the worst due to starting the SUV revolution is well, not my way of saying it sucked. idrive sucks, but if you are saying the 7 series sucked more than the stupid truck looking minivan’s of gm by not being on the list, you are ddd.

By: injunraiv

injunraiv — Thu, 08 May 2008 02:30:35 +0000

Why, yes it was the 2.6!!! It’s been so long I’d forgotten…

By: steve333

steve333 — Thu, 08 May 2008 02:23:55 +0000

My father had a Dodge Dart which was a great car with the slant 6 engine.
Then, he got rid of it for a leased Ford Granada. It was by far the worst car I have ever driven. The car would groan loudly out of nowwhere, it was so embarrassing. When you turned the steering wheel left it wanted to go right, the paint just came off in splotches.
It is because of the Granada that I have never even sniffed a Ford Dealer since then.
His next car was a Chevy Celebrity, which while it was a pretty bad car for handling, it lasted 17 years-and may still be going.

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Thu, 08 May 2008 02:09:33 +0000

The 2.6 was the Mitsu engine, injunraiv. They even had the nerve to badge early models with this engine with ‘Hemi’ on the fenders. The 2.5 was a long stroke 2.2- all Chrysler- and a much better engine in terms of reliability. If you ever see a K or a Caravan that just about kills you with a cloud of noxious gas worthy of a Kenworth when it pulls away from a stoplight after idling for awhile- that’s a 2.6.

By: olds307

olds307 — Thu, 08 May 2008 02:09:31 +0000

Thank you injunrain, the worst part of ANY Chrysler of the 80s, was the optional Mitsubishi (read: Japanese) engine.

By: injunraiv

injunraiv — Thu, 08 May 2008 01:40:34 +0000

I’m with Jayc on this. The worst part of the Reliant was the optional 2.5 engine, built by Mitsubishi, IIRC. 19 hrs to replace the timing belt, and you had to do it or ruin the engine at 70,001 miles.

It was cheap and reliable, and there are still quite a few on the road today.

By: FordTaurusForever

FordTaurusForever — Thu, 08 May 2008 01:38:56 +0000

The Chyrsler K Car was not that bad

By: jayjc08

jayjc08 — Thu, 08 May 2008 00:46:57 +0000

I’m suprised how many people think the K-car was a horrible car. Bare bones, no frills car, but it was reliable and cheap.

It seems as almost all Ford’s from around that era, specifically their larger cars were pretty ugly.

injunraiv- That was a pretty pathetic car. I had owned a Subaru Legacy, a very early model, and it was a really nice car, but expensive to maintain and just not enough room, very small.

tripleonefive- I would have to disagree with that list completely. Sorry, but it doesn’t list them as being good or bad, but simply just mentions every big fad in the auto world and lists any large car as “irresponsible”.

Anybody stupid enough to blame the creation of the Hummer on the Ford Explorer, aren’t that smart.

By: SanFord

SanFord — Thu, 08 May 2008 00:35:41 +0000

Obama has zero automotive credibility so why is this even considered “news” but that being said I’d be curious as to what cars he’s owned.

My vote for worst domestic would be the Chevy Vega followed by the early Omni/Horizon & Aspen/Volare

By: FlyingB

FlyingB — Thu, 08 May 2008 00:30:03 +0000

Here’s some more options for worst sold on American soil:

American: AMC Eagle

Asian: I like global_lightning’s choice of the Excel, but I think the top spot has to go to the Suzuki Flipmobile—I mean, Samurai.

European: Tie between the Yugo and Renault Le Car (or LeCar?)

By: gilby7

gilby7 — Thu, 08 May 2008 00:11:20 +0000

Fuego? Caravelle? DeLorean? 924? It would be easy enough to look up the numbers for reliability, but I’d take any of these “worst” cars, even the Granada (or Monarch) (or, Lincoln Versailles)

By: kgm777

kgm777 — Thu, 08 May 2008 00:09:41 +0000

We had a ’75 Grand Monarch Ghia and it never, ever broke. Probably one of the most reliable cars out there. The ’83 Valentino Continental wasn’t nearly as reliable. Cadillac didn’t hit bottom until the 80s.

By: Drachen

Drachen — Wed, 07 May 2008 23:23:35 +0000

Early Chrysler K-Cars (Dodge Aires/Plymouth Reliant) beat the
Grenada hands down IMHO, for worst car Detroit has ever built,
followed closely by the Omni/Horizon, 1st gen Ford Escort (ask the man who owned one! ) and the Cadillac Cimmaron.
Honorable mention goes to the late-80s GM full-sized cars (when
they went to front wheel drive), 3rd Gen (late 90s) Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable, 80-82 Thunderbird/Cougar and any car unfortunate to be powered by a Oldsmobile diesel engine or the Cadillac V-8/6/4.

By: DialM4Speed

DialM4Speed — Wed, 07 May 2008 23:13:32 +0000

Oh wait I just realized what the worst domestic is… Honda Accord!

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Wed, 07 May 2008 22:32:50 +0000

Daddy bought it for McKenzie bc they she got a C in math.
In your 92 CV I hope you put a siren in the car and pulled someone over as a practical joke

By: inline6

inline6 — Wed, 07 May 2008 22:32:29 +0000

Oh, and I forgot to add the Imperial Crown and LeBaron.

By: inline6

inline6 — Wed, 07 May 2008 22:29:51 +0000

Actually, all of the following were unit construction in the ’70s:
AMC Gremlin/Spirit
AMC Pacer
AMC Hornet/Concord
AMC Concord
AMC Javelin
AMC Rebel/Matador
AMC Ambassador
AMC AMX
Buick Skyhawk
Buick Apollo/Skylark (X)
Cadillac Seville (K)
Chevrolet Vega
Chevrolet Monza
Chevrolet Nova
Chevrolet Camaro
Chrysler LeBaron
Chrysler Cordoba
Chrysler Newport/300/New Yorker
Dodge Omni/O24
Dodge Dart
Dodge Aspen
Dodge Diplomat
Dodge Challenger (70-74)
Dodge Coronet/Monaco
Dodge Charger/Magnum
Dodge Polara/Monaco/Royal Monaco
Dodge St. Regis
Ford Pinto
Ford Maverick
Ford Mustang II (74-78)
Ford Mustang (70-73, 79)
Ford Granada
Ford Falcon/Fairlane/Torino
Ford Elite
Ford LTD II
Ford Thunderbird (77-79)
Ford Ranchero
Lincoln Versailles
Lincoln Continental Mark V
Mercury Bobcat
Mercury Comet
Mercury Cougar (70-73)
Mercury Capri (79)
Mercury Monarch
Mercury Montego
Mercury Cougar XR7 (74-79)
Mercury Cougar (77-79)
Oldsmobile Starfire (H)
Oldsmobile Omega
Plymouth Horizon
Plymouth Valiant/Duster
Plymouth Barracuda
Plymouth Volare
Plymouth Satellite/Fury
Plymouth Fury/Gran Fury
Pontiac Astre
Pontiac Sunbird
Pontiac Ventura/Phoenix

Only Ford’s largest cars, and GM’s mid- and full-size cars were BOF in the ’70s. And all the trucks in the ’70s were BOF. Today, the only cars that remain BOF are the Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Town Car triplets, and most SUVs and crossovers are unit contruction now, too. So BOF hardly won the day. It’s on its way out completely, like the carburetor and vacuum wipers.

By: 02WRXPSM

02WRXPSM — Wed, 07 May 2008 22:27:46 +0000

Anything Renault.

By: DialM4Speed

DialM4Speed — Wed, 07 May 2008 22:16:02 +0000

Who give a crap what Obama thinks…. I sure as hell don’t!

By: olds307

olds307 — Wed, 07 May 2008 21:48:49 +0000

tripleonefive: I, of course, was talking about the people I associated with, you know, the potheads and such—believe me my school had it’s fair share of rich bitch’s driving brand new Mercedes C-class daddy bought for them, etc.

In those days I drove a 1992 Ford Crown Victoria.

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Wed, 07 May 2008 21:44:23 +0000

Its funny that you are the dumbass who typed too soon, cant spell dumbass and sells sunbirds and 6000SE’s and you are the one poking lol
Its been real but Ive won this round and the funny thing is you started back up only to lose lol
Pathetic
I dont think youve “poked” anything in a while

By: injunraiv

injunraiv — Wed, 07 May 2008 21:36:00 +0000

Poke poke poke

By: tripleonefive

tripleonefive — Wed, 07 May 2008 21:27:46 +0000

Maybe you should try it You could also try being independently wealthy or having a high school education. Perhaps you should think before you post and stop crying. Now who is having fun ?