Well, he was right about one thing – it’s a gimmick!

Maybe it’s a gimmick, but Obama once again offers nothing tangible. Yeah, sure, “Obama has a plan to use current technology to boost fuel economy to 50 mpg by 2027.” Guess Obama alone has some load of knowledge that all the automotive engineers don’t, because Obama can use current tech to do this for the mainstream, only it’ll take him 20 years to do it at which time no one will remember his promise. That’s as big a crock as McLame’s plan and we all know it.

Obama loves to talk about this nebulous “hope and change” crap. I personally hope Obama will change and actually back up the garbage he spews.

Whatever Obama…His plan is to go and tax Oil companies bacause their making record profit… guess what.. it’ll just get passed down to us. Just like his other rocket scientist ideas(i.e. Healthcare, Social Security and corporate tax increases)…We’ll endup paying for it. He’s going to use current technology boost mpg by 2027? Obama is an idiot.

Stick, not only will a windfall profits tax raise the prices, it’ll also create shortages. Oil companies work in a global market, and if the government makes their operations here less profitable, they will shift their product to relatively more profitable markets, which means less availability for the consumer to buy, and at a higher price to boot.

No one (including me) likes the oil companies, but they have the advantage of not operating in a vacuum, and the USA does not produce more than it needs so that the politicians can limit exports, so those tankers bringing in the imports we require can be diverted to the port of highest profitability pretty quickly. You can’t punish companies who have the easy option of telling you to go to hell and still walk out ahead of the game. Plain & simple.

MAYBE we should look at another form of fuel. Do you realize that the oil companies play with us? They lower prices just enough when they need to and then raise them up when we are comfortable. McCain really isn’t offering anything either I believe most Politian’s are in bed with big oil, However I always thought that McCain was a Maverick and Obama would bring change. My point is that we are behind look at Brazil they don’t use any oil and that is the Saudi’s and big oil’s worst fear. We have the technology to switch but they are just greedy. So I agree they are both out of step but if they do something than that is a start.

Renzo — Where in the world did you get that Brazil doesn’t use any oil? Brazil is a massive user of oil, using it to the tune of about — 2 MILLION barrels a day. Yeah, they tout their ethanol production which is staggering compared to everyone else, but even that only accounts for about 25% of the gasoline they use, and ethanol can only be used to power cars, it can’t do the other infinite number of things that petroleum-based products go into.

sorry I ment Venezuela long day

Brazil is technically now “energy independent” as they have recently discovered about 30 billion barrels of oil off their shores in a deep-water exploration. Effectively, given their new discovery, current and forecasted demand, and use of biofuel like ethanol they as a nation can tell OPEC to stick it. We don’t have that choice.

The problem we have is that our idiot politicians see the “solution” as a one or the other thing to appease their special interests. It’s either “we must pursue alternatives” or “we must drill.” Everyone knows we must do both. Drilling takes a bit of time, but will provide relief in the medium term, and alternatives will bring relief in the long term. In the short term we have little choice because we are paying the price for politicians preventing the development of our energy infrastructure for the past 30 years.

You guys are all ****ing morons. I hate it when ignorant fools talk politics

Jon, don’t share your hatred, share your wisdom.
Surely that can’t be expecting (too) much from you.

Actually nearly half of Brazil uses ethanol or “Alcool” not a 1/4, huge difference

50mpg? Why not make it 100? Or 150?

Fuel economy standards do not change consumer behavior. Fuel prices do. But neither Obama or McCain want to raise petrol taxes to get people into more fuel-efficient vehicles and give the manufacturers a demand to produce to, rather than an arbitrary government regulation that isn’t as considerate to the consumer as the OEMs are in taking the needs of the consumer into the equation with the specifications of the product.

Problem is, neither will raise petrol taxes because it’s political suicide. But it’s the only thing that will get us off petrol the fastest.

Can we all watch our language ^jonmiles^ you need to back to school and learn how to talk properly to the public audience. I Support McCain’s plan; I don’t like Obama idea of how to set standard of 50mpg by 2027. He is smart talking about his plan to be effect by 2027. Let see if, I mean if, he run the office then his term will be up before his plan to be dffective. I don’t buy Obama plan at all.

I agree with “jon.” This is an automotive site, not a political one. And for those of you who think that oil only goes into cars, get real. “Sigma” has a huge point. Almost everything we use on a daily basis is oil-based. We’ll never lose our dependence on oil, but we can lose our dependence on foreign oil, and tell OPEC to go blow. We have reserves in our own country – but the envirofreaks won’t let us tap into them. Go figure. Oops, I’m talking politics… Anybody see the S5 on the roads? Sweet ride.

I think the best way to result all of this fuels matter is that our goverment need to make GAS NATRULIZATION which is the government in charge with the gas price like never let gas price past $3 a gallon. It would be tough because the Oil company run this country.

I still can’t believe Americans were stupid enough to let the media push this clown to be the presumptive Democratic nominee, it may sound racist but if this guy was white he would have been put on the side lines long, long ago.

how come neither candidate is mentioning the most promising solution of all?? http://www.sapphireenergy.com/ is big oil really so big that the candidates close there eyes to an obvious answer. this should make us all sick to our stomaches….

Obama wants “off the shelf ethanol” because he’s in bed with corn ethanol producers (ADM, Tom Daschle, and other DC lobbyists). He pretends he’s about change but this is really about good ole beltway connections. His inner circle of energy and environment policy advisors all have big corporate connections who get $Billions in gumment subsidies, who oppose Brazilian sugarcane ethanol with tariffs, and are driving up grain prices, hurting food prices worldwide. Some change.

i guess they will not

@ MRN, absolutely right.

Guys the oil companies isn’t the problem… in my comment I was not blaming the oil companies for the high prices. Remember, they’re buying at a higher price so their margin is going to be higher. Our government nets more then the oil companies per gallon and what do they do in the process to earn it. Do they drill for it? refine it? dristibute it? retail it? THEY DO NOTHING. Yet they make more money then the oil company. The real problem is OPEC. So until our government decides to do something about it (like drill for example) OPEC will have us by the balls.

What alarms me is that the “solution” to our present day hurt at the pump is to look into the future–far beyond the presidential term(s) of the next president. 50 mpg by 2027, pilot programs to develop batteries. There is nothing on the horizon that can free Americans from the economic crunch we’re in. We’re losing our houses, we’re paying a lot more to drive to work so that we don’t lose more. Just when we can conjure up enough problems at home, our energy *dependence* on areas of the world that categorically disagree with our way of life, makes times that much more tough.

We need to get rid of our dependence on oil, but how do we do that when no one wants to pay for new infrastructure or new technology, when the oil companies employ thousands of Americans and make their politicians fat and happy? When George W. first came into office he met with energy leaders to discuss the energy policy of the U.S. He met with Big Oil and only Big Oil.

We need change, getting rid of George W is a start. But is there no solution for the here and now? Every country that’s not OPEC should band together to form NOPEC (”Not OPEC”) and start making some demands.

Obama has a plan to bring cars up to a 50 mpg standard? Since when is he an engineer? I have a plan. Send obama on the first boat back to africa. If I wanted a black president I would vote for Bill Cosby and we could all share the pudding.

I don’t think McCain’s plan will do anything, because 300 million is not even pocket change in DC. It is definitely media posturing. At least he has some past that can be recognized and nobody can call him coward or less then a true patriot. I know nothing of Obama: he spend 2 years in Senate and was planning his next step (presidency) for those 2 years, which means he did not do **** for the country. I am not aware of his achievements except being on Harvard Law Review. Admirable, but has nothing to do with executive office. His dilettante ideas of taxing oil industry will backfire much worse then identical move in ’70s: oil companies stopped producing oil and its byproducts in US and started importing. That is why we are where we are today. Oil corporations are public companies: they must make money for investors. Otherwise execs can be fired or even jailed. Their profits are less then Coca Cola and Pepsico. Why don’t we surcharge drink manufacturers for their profit and re-invest the proceeds into health care to combat obesity? Those communist ideas ruined most of communists states, they can do US in as well.

“I still can’t believe Americans were stupid enough to let the media push this clown to be the presumptive Democratic nominee, it may sound racist but if this guy was white he would have been put on the side lines long, long ago.”

I love when people say he’s only the nominee because he’s Black. Nobody thought Hillary Clinton was running on hope or over taxation. The funny thing is her politics and his are almost identical. They would’ve brought almost the same things to the table. Now that she underestimated her oppnent and lost with a ****ty campaign, her followers are calling him unworthy. When was she worthy of being President, the 2 years she spent in the Senate before him or the 8 years absorbing Presidential info by osmosis. Yeah, Americans hate him because he can’t taut that amesome first term governor experience of the current US president. Apparently Americans love “C” students with horrible coporate skills.

manhertm, Americans love presidents who have demonstrated their dedication and ability to serve their country. Requirement is both, but Obama is lacking either. I don’t believe that he is either in love with his country or wants to serve its people out of love to those people. He represents the same classical values as Senator Clinton: his own ambitions.

If you want to know all about Obama’s accomplishments, Chris Matthews discussed them all with a huge supporter of Obama in this youtube video. It’s a MUST SEE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6-6bDDfTLU

Obama did help me realize how many MILLIONS of idiots live on our country. Vote for Bill Cosby if you want a black president and we can all share the pudding.

Obama is definitely a bright guy, but there are a lot of bright people in this country who equally don’t qualify for executive office.

Obama’s about as bright as a firefly in a blackout.

I want obama. If we cant have a Latinio president, at least someone who’s eaten noloney.

As soon as they can take the cancer risk out of batteries, and electric vehicles, this wouldn’t be a bad idea. But you can’t have one without the other, as of now anyway.

@HemiRoadRunner wrote Obama’s about as bright as a firefly in a blackout.

OK, we get it. You are an avowed racist. Now may we move on?

@richard
murderered out is a bigger racist, but he supports the all-black detroit sports teams. how does he reconcile that/

Its amazing how many people are getting snowed by Obama.
Heres REAL change-
As soon as he is elected millions of illegals will flood our borders. We are finally starting to take action to stem the tide, the last thing we need is Obama to screw it up.

Richard, how was HemiRoadRunner’s comment racist? Are you one of those people that think if a person doesn’t vote for Obama it must be because he or she is racist? You seem to be the one bringing race to the table. Just like Obama with his clairvoyant comment about how Republicans are going to make race an issue. It’s ironic because the most racist people I know are liberals.

If this clown gets elected it will be the biggest assault on freedom and liberty in our history.
And you could forget driving what you want when you want.

The technology is out to travel at equiv of 1000mpg!

http://www.firebox.com/product/2166/Ego-Electric-Street-Scoota

40 mile range on 8p (16 cents) of electricity. 8 hour charge, no congestion charge in London

Better batteries could mean quicker charges with longer range and a better mpg doohickey.

Better batteries are the future for a whole range of applications…

For me, in a car? I like petrol… /me smirks about his 2.5 litre 6 cyl petrol engine which gets 20mpg Lol.

Yeah I have to pay £185 a year on ROAD TAX, but screw it i’m a happy chappy driving it at least!

Here we go again with the “you’re a racist” crap. Mind your own buisiness jackoff. Don’t you have other things to worry about than my views on a person. You tree hugging piece of $H!T. Your name fits you Richard, or I mean DICK. Anyway, I said I wouldn’t mind Bill Cosby for President, see you next time eating the pudding.

Obama has a plan to bring cars up to a 50 mpg standard? Since when is he an engineer? I have a plan. Send obama on the first boat back to Africa. If I wanted a black president I would vote for Bill Cosby and we could all share the pudding.

Comment by HemiRoadRunner, posted on June25 at 1:56 pm

No thats not racist Psiclone lol. I believe Barack was born in Hawaii. Instead of using Bill Cosby in the last sentence you should have said “If I wanted a darkie for a president I would vote for Billy Dee Williams and we could all share the Colt 45.
YES WE CAN !

Wait now I am very confused. On the news Obama based McCain saying his plan wouldn’t help us fast enough in the short term. Yet Obamas solution is increased ethanol production? We can do that withe McCains plan. And Obamas plans dont see a payoff until 2027? How is that helping us today. I’m beginning to think Obama is full of BS with no real plans to the rhetoric he spews. At least McCain with all his flaws seems to have actual viable plans and not a bunch of empty promises.

Screw it, I’m writing my own name in.

LOL man you guys are funny as hell. Thank God the lot of you aren’t in charge anything to do with rest of the world or this country. First off I’m assuming most of you vote for GW Bush. Yeah that was real bright. So if you really stop and think about it most of this mess we are in is your fault in the first place. This is pure comedy. Change will come but it won’t be because you folks. Whether Obama is part of the catalysts for it that change. Actually if you voted for Bush and you didn’t want a Black man in the “White House” then you shouldn’t have voted Bush LOL. You’ll get that one half way back to your car seat lol.

As for the fuel crap. Yeah both there plans aren’t viable plans. And until at the top stop the greed and think of the greater good then nothing will change or change will happen very slowly. Again thank for the laughs.