I love the American flag in the background, what they should show is all the workers GM Ford and Chrysler laid off bc of factories moving to Mexico. Maybe LLN should display the Mexican flag.
If you look at the stats the Acura brand is down bc of the RL The RDX, MDX, TL and TSX old well. The RL was at just under 1,000 last year and dropped to 300. It’s a great car just not enough cylinders. Hopefully Acura will do a redesign and put a 4.2 V8 in the RL
Honda did very well and Kia is on fire !

Has anyone seen the 09 Sonata interior ?
http://bp3.blogger.com/_XEEIzU0UA1M/Ryqsx5oQXJI/AAAAAAAADqQ/FwQfnPPGFNI/s1600-h/1.jpg

The RL killing acura its too little car for that big money

I really wish acura had something more interesting to offer.

Yes, GM and Ford are laying workers off so we need to stop buy their cars!!!! It’s certainly not the other way around, right????

1115,

That interior looks nice, but weirdly familiar.

DMB I will not buy a car just to save some jobs GM FOrd and Chrysler needs to make a car equal to or better than the Japanese and other foreign comp then they will be considered
I hate when people buy out of patriotism Buy the best product !
Blk the interior looks like it was stolen out of an Acura I like it

Funny, most other stories have GM at a 3.4% GAIN in sales??

I HATE IT WHEN THE SAME MORON SAYS THE SAME **** DAY AFTER DAY, AND SAYS ITS USELESS PATRIOTISM IF WE DONT BUY JAPANEESE.

I will give Nissan/Infinity 10 years and they will be kicking some major a**. For the most part they have some good designs + that bulletproof engine.

larsim, I would almost agree with you in respect that once they get that bigg they will start loosing quality. Show me one company that hasn’t. Ford-no,GM-no,CHrysler-no,Honda-no, Toyota-hell no. As far as quality vehicles all being foreign that is absolute bs. Anyone that says that is ignorant, and obviously hasn’t looked at what is out their now days. Their are quite a few domestics that are at the top of their segments for quality. Take a look at Mercury and Buick that’s only 2.

WOO HOO Kia is just lighting the world on fire! A whopping 25,000 units for the entire company! Better look out. And Ford just sucks. Might as well shut the doors. 215,000 units. I mean come on, who are they fooling? With numbers that horrible employees better start looking for jobs. Come on guys, as far as quality goes, have you actually been reading the news? Fords quality numbers just keep going up, and the almighty Toyota on the other hand?…

Toyota will suffer more. They need to change the design of their cars.. Their cars are F**kin Ugly !!
I am looking for a new car and Toyota is Out from my list.. Camry is Ugly, Rav4 and Highlander is Uglier and their Scions are the Ugliest.

Also, Acura is damm over priced.. Wake up Acura !!

Saab … New 93 and 95 are so damm ugly…

jimmy8: and yet Ford was still the best-selling *brand* in the US for October. Though they’re essentially tied with Chevy and Toyota.

The rise at Mercury is really a mystery. What the heck are they selling that people wanted? Maybe it’s all the geriatric folks forced to buy a Grand Marquis now that you can’t buy a Crown Vic retail. In its very own way, Mercury IS getting unique product. Hahahahhaa.

lol @ giving Nissan 10 years Nissan has already proven themselves What planet are you from ? The American car co’s have a loooong way to go with proving they can hang with the competition
Acura’s are not overpriced compared to the competition. I fear that the new 09 TL’s price will be through the roof

Well f*cking said, CTS Driver! Some whiny little b!tches just don’t learn, don’t they?!?

CTS DRIVER, now that’s one that deserves to be in CAPS.

You are an absolute idiot 1115. The American flag is displayed because this is about US sales!!!!

It is important to note that GM actually sold 8,000 more vehicles than last October, but this year there was an extra sales day so it is actually posted as a decline on a day-by-day basis although its actually a gain on a month-to-month basis.

Also, Toy sales growth has clearly stopped. Honda will inch up more thanks to the Accord, but Acura is absolutely horrible (so again 1115, Acura is not all that great. In fact, it sucks)

what are you on about autonut. no seems to understand that NISSAN and RENAULT have an alliance,renault owns 40% of nissan while nissan has a share in Renault. renault did not takeover nissan. the designs do not come from france especially the N.american nissan lineup, the are either designed in the san diego design studio or tokyo.
I can’t see how mercury sales increased,not one model of interest there,ford needs to axe that brand and concentrate on lincoln a brand with great potential.

deantj, I really shouldn’t comment. Homosexual? Go ahead and ride off into the sunset in your tropical red rio. Now who’s homosexual? It’s like the pot calling the kettle black. I guess I just hate all the negativity towards American manufacturers. Ford has started turning around, and Mullaly is doing an excellent job, but it doesn’t happen overnight. We are making progress, but it is like turning around an aircraft carrier. It takes a while. Let me also remind you that our numbers have been down all year because we aren’t reporting the 350,000 Taurus fleet sales we have always had in the past. Wait till next year. Ford will show increased sales year over year.

Commodore what the hell do you know about fact You think that bc Gm imports Opels to america and give them a badge that they are good cars. You also want people to consider an american car when you havent
The Facts are that GM was down Acura has improved sale from last year for every model except the RL Next year the new TL and TSX roll out and things will change Acura’s are the best cars out now Reliable affordable and stylish. The domestics WISH that had any of those traits
If they want something to represent US sales they should use a toilet

toyotas sales include lexus and scion as a whole and im sure the new xB, xD, and updated tC all contributed rather significantly to their bottom line. Good to hear mercury is doing good, theyre definatly better versions of their ford counterparts.

mercury are better versions of their ford counterparts but lincoln are a better version of mercury thats the problem, jus better versions and too much crossover between brands when the need their own identity

1115, I hate to tell you this but look at the american cars that compete with the Acura’s. Every one is less expensive, and if quality is not on par with Acura their right behind. O’ by the way, did the MKZ or it was Zephyr at the time that just one the style award by Toyota friendly JD Power in 06′ ?
In other words, I don’t know what the hell your talking about, but your info is obviously wrong.

Nissan moved out of san diego, they’re in nashville.

so mujician JD power is biased towards toyota, of course you’re so right, full of wisdom!!!

Stat is good, but for small volume manufacturers like Kia, it is easier for them to rack up huge increase in percentage by having one model selling really well. Nonetheless, it is good to see domestic as well as the Koreans doing better. There is such thing as patriotism that the Big3 has. People still romanticize the cars of 50s, the muscles of 70s etc. and they are all American. If the Big3 improves even marginally in reliability (which is happening), people will choose them.

1115, there you go about Acura again. Stylish? Hardly. It is BLAND, but I will give you that they are not ugly at the least. Cadi and European brands are more distinctive when it comes to styling. Acura is either a dressed up Honda (I could re-badge an Acura with Honda badges and you would never know) or a failure at trying to copy BMW. Keep dreaming that “Acuras are the best cars now” when the opponents are really the Europeans. Ever wonder why BMW and MB does not sell cheap products to compete with Scion and Honda? Because they have the brand recognition and they don’t have to groom the young buyers with a cheapo Civic to buy their “luxury” cars later in life.

sharpie you’re right about ACURA the need their own identity,however the are good,high quality cars that just need to improve in styling.

Wonder what will happen with Jaguar

I’m not saying this is definitely the case, but maybe pople are realizing that for the same price as a Honda with an “A” on the front, they can get a real luxury car.
Maybe “A—a” should get dedicated models, if it wants to reverse its sales slide. Maybe too many customers are asking salesmen the difference between the “MDX” and Pilot, and walking away convinced there is no difference

cb10: “too little car for that big money.” Perfect way of describing japanese faux-luxury offerings.

“DMB I will not buy a car just to save some jobs GM FOrd and Chrysler needs to make a car equal to or better than the Japanese and other foreign comp then they will be considered
I hate when people buy out of patriotism Buy the best product !”

That didn’t make sense, Fluffer, but Chrysler is barely above toyonda level, and in some cases, equal. Ford is mediocre (therefore well above toyonda level) and the General is kicking their asses.

Larsim: Nissan is kicking ass now; wait until the GT-R hits these shores.

Jommy8: times are hard, kias are inexpensive, but not really cheap.

tripleonefluffer: who do you see as “A—a’s” competition. All hondas with more than two tires are overpriced.

Then, you go on with your retard-drool and say:

“Commodore what the hell do you know about fact You think that bc Gm imports Opels to america and give them a badge that they are good cars. You also want people to consider an american car when you havent
The Facts are that GM was down [Honda's faux-luxury division] has improved sale from last year for every model except the RL Next year the new TL and TSX roll out and things will change “A—a’s” (are the best cars out now Reliable affordable and stylish. The domestics WISH that had any of those traits
If they want something to represent US sales they should use a toilet\

That post was about as accurate as it was correctly structured; in other words, not at all. Reliable, affordable and stylish? How about untrustable, overpriced and appealling to some.

mujician: american cars that compete with “A—s?” Maybe the Five Hundred taurus and the sebring.

cardesigner5: you’re right about sharpie

JJT, your opinion is jaded and you are an idiot who can’t even type “Acura”. You can point out all the structure or grammatical errors that you want but its makes no difference to me. You also do not know luxury BC you are buying Tempos and Mazda 5’s. You don’t like navigation BC you have a map and you don’t like toilets BC you **** on a pot.
Look up any real car magazine or car website (even Shady Powers) and it will show that Acura’s are reliable and “trustworthy” lol Overpriced? I don’t think so Appealing to most would be more accurate. Judging by the majority of the Acura lineup increasing I would say they appeal to more than some
The MKZ is nicely styled but Shady Powers is worthless just like your post Permanent marker
Acura has a sport technology image that is totally separate from Honda

MUJICIAN – The point I was trying to make was that as much as I don’t like to admit, Nissan/Infinity cars, imo of course, look waayyyyy better than most of the american cars out there. American carmarkers, if they want to survive, need to wake up and smell the roses. I am 30 years old, am in the market for a new car, but I can not consider putting an american car on my list. Sad to say, but american cars are boooooring. I am torn between Nissan/Infinity (G37) or BMW (3 Series).

I love the automotive market!
Larsim: what 3 series are you looking at? I would assume a 335i coupe, because that would be the only 3 series to buy if you’re thinking of a G37. I work for BMW and well their cars a probably in my opinion the most fun to drive. The G37 is a VERY CLOSE 2nd though. Not putting an American car on your list is kind of limiting yourself. Take a look at the Mustang GT, GT-H, GT CS. They are very fun cars to drive and well almost worth the looking at because of its Price tag.

Spoiler: Styling is subjective.

Yeah, sure Fluffer, characterize my PAST car purchases (or cars that I’m not going to buy) in a way that you think makes you look smarter. You’re a fool. Even if I didn’t know luxury, that wouldn’t make an accord a luxury car.

If shaq says Yao Ming is tall, that doesn’t meen he’s not telling the truth.

I can type what honda calls its faux-luxury division, but I choose not to, unless i’m on the clock.

I never said I don’t like navigation. I( certainly don’t dislike it, although if it’s not none properly, I could.

magazine, shcmagazine. I’ll look at the highways. I haven’t seen an early-eighties cavalier for several months, so I’m thinking most of them have died within the last year. No magazine will tell you that.

Larsim: Nissans are good cars, but datsuns are beautiful.

Lincoln and Mercury really surprised me. I guess it goes to show that people prefer Mercury’s waterfall grille (and gorgeous model; WOW! what a looker) and Lincoln’s pseudo-luxury bling to Ford’s “Red, White, and Bold” three bar grille. I think Ford Corporation just cannibalizes on itself by offering such similar products by its three American brands. I guess it does well enough now to keep the corporation afloat and surviving, but it’s not a good model for long term longevity and growth. I would still like to see Ford Corporation eventually redefine their brands by giving them distinct, brand specifically styled/designed products.

You do great job at making yourself look like a fool JJT.On the clock ? Yea right. It’s funny I took a road rip on Friday and while on the road I saw nothing but american cars on the side of the road. Fords Dodges and GM vehicles. Im also in a part of the country where Fords rule but that is changing. Im seeing more and more Toyotas Acura’s and Infiniti’s here than American cars. The most popular american car here seems to be the Impala and the Magnum.
Of course you dont care about magazines bc they tel the truth about the Japanese cars being more reliable and having better build quality. You are a idiot anyway
I have to go to Enterprise tomorrow to rent another car and guess what they have? Japanese cars ? No , American cars? Oh yea ! I cant wait to drive a Cobalt lol

Ian — yes, I am thinking of the 335. In a car I am simply looking for style, or that sexiness. Dependability, resale value, and all that of that is of course, important as well. I am leaning towards the Infinity, again, simply because of the style. As far as not being able to consider an american car on my list, sorry — the Mustang, imo of course, is just not what I call sexy…..Ford: Thanks, but no thanks.

seriously guys i dont believe for a second you can judge a cars quality by looking at the side of the road that is just stupid, if a car has a flat tire the whole company is rubbish, give me a break.
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larism, edmunds just put the new cts rite up there with the g35 and bmw 335, (but i know you are looking at coupes), it was rite above the is350 and c350 but just below the others. it has an excellent interior and a really nice entertainment package too, it is definately a car to consider.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=123235,

ROFL, I’m not surprised that Crapura sales dropped like a kamikaze plane. Their cars are over-rated; pseudo-luxury pieces of ****.

“You are a idiot.”

Yeah, I should really take heed to what you say.
If I were an idiot, I’d be driving an accord.
Show me one magazine that says a certain car has build quality.

Fluffer: maybe some of your State Trooper friends arrested drivers of those cars, and left their cars at the roadside?

illwill: straight truth!

You are THE idiot!
The cars on the side of the road where the typical under engineered american POS’s
My State Trooper connection uses magnums Tahoes and Crown Vics

Magnums, Tahoes and Crown Vics are tough — that’s why troopers don’t drive avalons.

Here you go fluffer:
hamybe the american cars you saw at the side of the road were there because the pigs arrested them in speed traps.

“Hamybe” you need to use your spell check. Stop using excuses for the American cars They had towels sticking out of them which means they broke down The tow truck drivers just take them to the Honda or Toyota dealers so they just leave the POS American cars on the side of the road
The Avalon doesn’t have a V8 and they actually sell Avalon’s to regular people no fleets
I didn’t have to rent a car this time but I will drive an American car in January
Hopefully it won’t leave me stranded on the side of the road

“Hamybe” you need to use your spell check. Stop using excuses for the American cars. The cars on the side of the road had towels sticking out of them, which means the car was broken down. The tow truck drivers take the owners of the POS American cars to the Honda or Toyota dealers so they can get something reliable. The owners of the American cars just leave the POS American cars on the side of the road
State Troopers don’t use the Avalon bc it doesn’t have a V8 and Avalon’s actually sell to regular people and have no need for fleet sales
I didn’t have to rent a car this time but I will rent an American car in January
Hopefully it won’t leave me stranded on the side of the road

You didn’t say that. Now doid EVERY car you saw on the roadside have a towel sticking out?

next qestion: how old?

“Hopefully” means “in a hopefull manner.”
ex:

I looked hopefully at my TL, wishing it would turn into a luxury car. It didn’t.

The TL is more luxury than you will ever know janitor

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Fluffer. How can you say that, when I drive an oldmsobile?

Oldsmobile is dead and buried just like Plymouth Eagle and soon to be Mercury. Better get a Topaz soon
GM will die also until they realize that people want cars that last long and are reliable
You sound like a little bitch lol-How can you say that waaa
Stop lying about your Civic and admit that Japanese cars are better

TL=T.otal L.ackluster

You don’t get it do you dumb-ass?
So, I have to spell it out, fluffer.
I drive an Oldsmobile. That’s closer to a luxury car than any Honda, even one with an “A” on the front.
Prove I’m lying about my civic. If I was going to lie, wouldn’t it make more sense to lie about my income or how many sluts I’ve banged?

illwill: good stuff, but how about
‘Tard Luxury?

Yeah, fluffer, some Japanese cars are better than some cars made elsewhere. Happy now? Or can only a nice blast of protein make you happy?