Thank you LLN.
Ladies and Gentlemen the results are in-

Lincoln- down 9 percent
Acura- down 7 percent
Mazda- down 8.4 percent

The ugly grill, the ugly beak and the stupid smile are not winning any friends. And these sh*t numbers are down from last year’s sh*t numbers. The sheeple have spoken… are you paying attention yet?

johnny, maybe it’s time to go back to real sized cars like the last gen mazda6 eh? Quit making huge sedan’s idiots.

Hey everybody,Ford SUCKS! Once again GM trounces Fords ass in sales!

Oh and how about that sh!tfaced Mustang getting outsold by the Camaro by 2 to1! You gotta admit,Ford SUCKS!

I gotta admit, you’re a retard.

johnny – are you at SEMA?

Hey A4,how about admitting that sh!tfaced Mustang got outsold 2 to 1 by the Camaro,the car you assclowns waited so patiently for?

I wonder how many TLs has Acura has sold among those 10K cars.. prolly 100? Since it’s introduction I’ve only seen it 3 or 4 times. Serioulsy. And it could have been the same one too.

MINI had almost a 21% sales decline — time to lower their ridiculously inflated (for what you get) prices.

The Mitsubishi and Susuki brands are just about dead
Mitsu sold 3700 units for the month!
Mazda6 is a very good mid-size contender, and they can’t move the metal
Civic had a very bad month of around 16000
Honda Odyssey struggled too
DrFill

fordman

camaro out selling the mustang is temporary, all this transformers/ jay leno hype has people all nostalgic. Dude its just like when smokey and the bandit came out, everyone rushed to buy trans ams, believe me, once the storm settles the sales are gonna change. Especially when ford drops the 5.0 back in the mustang.

I dont know about you, but im sure fordman is NMOFGM

No he is not. Different skillset.

TL sold 851 vs 3730 last year. yikes

The important news not shown is market share. Sales increases over a year ago can be misleading since something may have happened to individual marques back then, like special incentives, plnats down, etc.

I believe we will see ford and GM increase market share from the last 6 months.

I do feel sorry for Chrysler. Not sure how long Fiat will stick it out with them. Chrysler needs new product to make a change in their sales and they do not have anything new for awhile and it will take 1-2 years to bring in the Fiat cars and rehash the cars they are working on now. Hopefully Fiat can cut cost enough so Chrysler can survive on the sales they have until the new stuff comes out. Otherwise they are toast.

Hope I am wrong.

I still cannot believe this is the most commented article at LLN. We love Buick here.:)

http://www.leftlanenews.com/buick-lacrosse-review.html

OK, I figured out the October market shares myself:

GM………….21%
Toyota…….18
Ford………..16
Honda……..10
Chrysler……8
Nissan………7
Hyund………6
VW………….3

At the end of ‘08 GM had 22% share. Ford had 15%. Toyota had 17%.

Can anyone tell me the TOTAL percent increase or decrease of Automotive Sales for North America for October 2009? I have the percent increase or decrease for each of the suppliers individually, but I can’t find a total % increase/decrease. Thank you.

What’s really impressive about Ford’s numbers is that they dramatically reduced their incentives compared to last year whereas GM had to have huge incentives to move their vehicles. Sales are only one picture Fordman. Profitability is more important than sales as is quality. I’d rather invest and run a leaner and more profitable company than a bigger, less efficient company. To compare, Honda is far smaller than Toyota but does that really matter? I would argue that Honda has the better reputation.

People realize that Ford and GM actually have some decent cars to sell? Let’s hope so…

Correct on the incentives. GM for October had very high incentives, especially on the dead brands:Hummer, Pontiac, Saturn and Saab.

“Long-suffering Saab, which is being sold by GM, has $6,000 to $7,000 dealer incentives on the Saab 9-3 Convertible and Saab 9-5.

Great deals in the way of cash rebates and low-interest financing are available on Pontiacs since GM hopes to wind down the brand by year-end. The Pontiac Vibe and Pontiac Solstice each have a $2,500 rebate or zero-percent financing for up to 72 months.

Similarly, GM is providing dealers with cash incentives that can be passed along to consumers on Saturn models. The Saturn Aura Hybrid, for instance, comes with a $4,000 cash rebate off its $26,000 sticker price. The Saturn division is going out of business since the planned sale to Penske Automotive Group failed. As of Oct. 1, GM had only 12,000 Saturn vehicles left in dealer inventory and the automaker has stopped making Saturns, as it has Pontiacs.”

South: 0% change from Sep ‘09 to Oct ‘09.

-25% change from Sep ‘08 to Sep ‘09

TOTAL 838,233 838,449 0% 8,654,342 11,603,561 –25%

Toyotas problem is that they over capacitized themselves and have plants sitting and manpower getting paid for not working. Honda did not do that and is doing well.

So we “stabilize” at about the lowest point in 30 years. That’s like celebrating your 50% pay cut.

Fordman, Ford made money last qtr. GM is still suckling the public teat like every loser govt run organization, stealing from the public while adding to its downfall.

Thank you “carstuff”. Your information is very helpful. I have a hard time finding that data every month. I don’t know what website to look at for it. Thanks again for your help.

Chrysler’s performance was not QUITE as dismal as it might seem. Both minivans were up, and the other so-called core products, 300, Charger, Challenger suffered less that 30% declines. The Grand Cherokee and RAM pickup were slow sellers, however. Remember Chrysler was shut down for several months and Cash For Clunkers wiped out their inventory of smaller cars. The 2010 Caliber and PT Cruiser are just now starting up production. The others are pretty much lame ducks until the new Fiat products are launched. Let’s see what thw Wizard of Turin comes up with during today’s SIX HOUR press conference.

Actually the TL sold more than 851 cars in Oct. 2.512.Still failing miserably compared to years past. I am always curious to see how many tasteless idiots there are in the US that would actually buy this ugly (IMO) excuse for a car

TL * 2,512 4,340 -44.2% 28,394 39,999 -29.0%

Unfortunately, until next year, Chrysler won’t be offering anything new, so sales will be in the dumpster.

Worst time for Chrysler right now.

Ram trucks not doing well as long as gas prices are high (almost $3.00/gal) and with construction industry still in the dumps.

Jeeps need to get better gas mileage. Needs a Pentastar (aka Phoenix) engine.

Go GM!!!! Put everybody else out of business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can’t wait to see the imports gone in the next few years, victims of the American Revolution!

Americans finally get it, this is GM COuntry!

An American Revoution!!!!

god damn, this new nmofgm is a tool…exclamation points don’t make a good troll attempt…please go back and do some research…re-read the old nmofgm’s posts from this time last year and learn a lesson…if you’re going to troll, at least troll properly…you’re using punctuations, attempting complete sentences, and probably even correcting spelling mistakes…all clear signs you’re not the same guy…

amateurs…

leftwing… that was awesome. Maybe you could teach some night school courses at the troll college?

wow – Canada has a troll college?

fordman is an idiot…take a look at the leadership behind GM and you’ll clearly see all of the years of wasted money and why they are in the shape they are in now. I believe in our American cars but after seeing the demise of GM by the arrogance in leadership, I’m ready to stop putting our good tax-dollars into a Government Motor Company. Hey, maybe fordman is really Bob Lutz or Mark LaNeve…possibly even Red-Ink Rick! Get a job…post something worth reading once in a while or just log out completely.

Yeah I think the Troll college may be somewhere in Calgary. lol

South, that was from OCT ‘08 to OCT 09, not Sep. to Sep.

whoops

The good news for the auto industry is that replacement rate is about 11.6 million units so eventually the US will either increase auto sales or the number of vehicles percapita will drop. The question is who is going to do well and who is going away.

The winners will do very well as the weaker competitors crumble. Mitsubishi and Suzuki seem highly at risk. Chrysler needs some mojo soon but it could be a boon to Ford and GM.

Regarding the Camaro and its retro look I think back to the retro Thunderbird. Some people lined up to pay $10,000 over sticker. Less than one year out you could pick one up for $10,000 below sticker. I don’t expect the Camaro to be punished like the T-Bird but sales will level out and we’ll see ratios similar to the good ol’ days when both cars were vying with each other in the 80’s and 90’s.

Are you kidding me? Do we have a troll college? Oh man… those troll babes may not look like much but once they get that big head working…

I don’t know what ya are so happy about GM, the market share for GM was down alot. This is just for now, and we have to see what’s going to happen in next couple months. Specially GM, Toyota, and chrysler can do with out Gov. extra $4500 support.

NMOFGM – When I suggested new material for your shtick , eclamation points are not what I had in mind .

fsvt??? GM share down a lot? After being in bankruptcy, shedding 4 brands it still ONLY lost 1% from the ‘08 calender year. GM has said they will break even at 18.5% with a 10 million market. We are there. Lets see at the end of the 4th quarter if true.

Now one month of sales really means little BUT they now have 3 months of increasing market share (after bankruptcy). The $4500 cash for clunkers was 2 months ago and the “bring ahead” theory issue seems to be over.

Not saying it is rosy for GM but would rather be up 4% for the month than down 30% like Chrysler and down ~4% like Toyota/Honda.

Employees are wearing their “30″ buttons with pride Somebody even handed out “Death to the Japs” T-shirts which we proudly wear as well!

GM. AN American Revoution

leftwingagenda, troll phd, at your service…take good notes in class, as there will be a quiz at the end…

and while i don’t want you to be right about the mazda 3, johnny, i’d like to see a breakdown as to whether sales were down across the board (refuting the ugly mug theory a bit) or if the 3 specifically is down compared to other models…

I can see it now. Lectures about how to troll properly, along with in depth labs for 3 hours at a time going to as many places as possible to cause trouble. The faster you get banned, the better your grade.

We’re on to something here… now who could we use as a mascot? Anyone have a picture of the real NMOFGM?

I got a picture of nmofgm

http://www.esarcasm.com/wp-content/fat_man-296×300.jpg

Holy sh*t… we’re going to need a bigger costume.

Okay, well I am pretty sure we all know that fordman and NMOFGM are not over the age of 12, so stop talking.

NMOFGM likes to suck big 8==========D

NMOFGM: so GM employees are now displaying their IQs on buttons? Fascinating.

nice one^ tehe

Need more oil for GM. Bahahhhhaaaa, GM still sucks. Shows you the American people are smart and not buying those fugly unreliable pos cars that come from garbage motors. Obama should have let garbage motors go bankrupt.
Hopefully those crap cars that our inbred Need more oil for GM poster will disappear like those rusty unreliable junk that gm puts out.

Hmmmm, it strikes me as odd that so many people on here keep saying that no one is buying GM made vehicles. If my reading and arithmetic are correct, GM sold 177,603 vehicles in October. A 4% increase over October 2008. Meanwhile Toyota sold 152,165 cars and trucks in October for a 3.5% decline in sales from October 2008. Please tell me how American’s are not buying GM made vehicles when the out sold Toyota last month by 25438 vehicles.

I think the issue may be where you live. Many parts of the country do not buy domestic while other parts only buy domestic. This gives a jaded view of the market.

there are also many who have a very warped idea of the different marques like iwc. I think most knowledgeable people will say GM is average to above average in quality and reliability yet they are many who espouse their biased views even when the data shows differently.

GM just commented that they are, well lets Fritz say it.

“General Motors Co. is outperforming the targets set in its earnings viability plan outlined in April, CEO Fritz Henderson said today.

Henderson declined to list the areas in which GM is outperforming but said the company would provide details in its third-quarter earnings report later this month.

Prior to filing for U.S. bankruptcy protection in June, GM presented a viability plan to the government. The plan assumed GM would have a 19.5 percent share in 2009, with that share stabilizing in the 18.4 to 18.9 percent range in subsequent years. That would come on the back of four core brands — Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick and GMC — rather than eight brands.

“

As of October GM had a 19.8% share for the year above the 19.5% plan assumption.

If you look after Bankruptcy (July):
August…….19.5%
September.20.9%
October…..21%

and average them you get a 20.5% share, well above the break even point.

I am looking for some positive report outs by GM in a little over a week.

What’s good for General motors is good for America