Comments on: No thanks: Despite strong offer, GM still set to close doors of Moraine plant

By: monte

monte — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:32:58 +0000

I love how everyone jumps on the gm is irresposible bandwagon. Ohio wants gm to keep building suvs that burn more gas and hardly anyone is buying anymore………….who’s irresponsible?

By: 400horseSS

400horseSS — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:26:14 +0000

Your Commen^ Am I missing something Cracker, or are your wanna be jokes just that bad.

By: crackerhemi

crackerhemi — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:09:49 +0000

“Cracker this is America the last time I checked and in America a high school diploma is all that is needed to get a good job”

You are hilarious, you hillbilly. All you need is a highschool diploma?!?!?! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

By: 400horseSS

400horseSS — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:26:51 +0000

golf4me do you realize if they paid us nothing, they still wouldn’t have made a profit, but your so smart you knew that, its bad management period.

By: 400horseSS

400horseSS — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:20:11 +0000

And golf4me, its a race to the bottom witth pay in this country, kiss my ass with that right to work garbage.

By: 400horseSS

400horseSS — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:18:51 +0000

Yep golf4me you got us the 2% labor cost per vehicle is strangling GM, not the crap they’ve made in the last 10years, over paid execs who lose billions its the 2% workers cut per vehicle, you got it all figured out, and Cracker this is America the last time I checked and in America a high school diploma is all that is needed to get a good job, have fun stocking shelves with your bachelors degree in “Who Cares”.

By: RaineMan

RaineMan — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:59:29 +0000

But if McD’s had to pay union salary to the clown behind the register I couldn’t have my double greaseburger for $1. Ofcourse I’d happily pay $1.50 for it if they could ever figure out what it means when I say NO PICKLES.

By: crackerhemi

crackerhemi — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:40:41 +0000

I completely agree with golf4me. When someone with no education can walk in a do your job (or with an “intensive” 2 day course), there is no reason you should be earning that much money. The GM union workers should take back the fast food jobs in this country; it is a booming industry.

By: golf4me

golf4me — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:23:54 +0000

Really, 400horse? Let’s see…what’s the #1 reason the automakers are losing money? High wages and legacy costs. You can go on and on about poor design and product, but you know, ultimately cars are designed for production, and the Big 3 have had their hands tied financially by the high costs of labor, and the fact that they have to design cars that can be put together by HS dropouts, both of which limit their ability to put the engineering, materials, and complexity that other automakers are able to incorporate. Unions had their day, they did good things for people early on, but you have to face it, their time has gone. It was gone 30 years ago. Time to move on in a lean, efficient manner if you want to have any domestic auto industry from this day forward. The states that do not have right-to-work laws are now prospering from manufacturing while union states are losing jobs at a record pace. Shouldn’t that tell you something?

By: ktulu

ktulu — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:21:01 +0000

General Motors is dumb

Ohio made a good effort

Passing a law abolishing all unions would be stupid. Stupider that “tort re4m.

By: RaineMan

RaineMan — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:15:12 +0000

Smart move by GM. No taxpayer bailouts. Lee Fisher should be removed from office for even trying it.

By: 400horseSS

400horseSS — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:04:00 +0000

golf4me you are pathetic, spitting the same ridiculous b.s.

By: 400horseSS

400horseSS — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:02:46 +0000

Come to Wentzville thats where the $$$$ is at.

By: jayjc08

jayjc08 — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:31:40 +0000

All the tax credits, grants and sh!t really get me boiled. WHY should Ohio taxpayers pay for GM’s irresponsibility? Why in the end should the people of Ohio pay for GM’s retooling of their plants? Sure, it will save jobs, but only about 2,400. Sure, it’s a cruel thing to say just forget about these guys, but that’s the result of GM’s misfortunes NOT to reinvest into their American plants over the years. Everyone was predicting high gas prices and the economy would crumble a few years back, and we all knew it would be soon. GM could have taken the initiative to invest in new tooling, reducing capacity of their SUV’s to keep both resale value and supply in good health, and enabled different vehicles to be produced at the factory. Difficult thing to do, but I vaguely remember GM posting huge sales and profits just a few years ago.

Ohio was being very generous with their offer. However, I don’t think GM should have taken it anyways, if they respect their own workers and people in the U.S.A. It’s crap moves like this that get Americans boiled, not just crap cars.

By: MercMark

MercMark — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:12:48 +0000

Just tell them Ohio is really a Mexican colony and then they will keep the plant open.

By: golf4me

golf4me — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:56:53 +0000

Passing a law abolishing all unions would be infinitely more valuable…

By: corvette

corvette — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:37:37 +0000

Ohio should just pay for the retooling, even if it costs more it will save jobs and make it one of GM’s more important plants.