awesome

Interesting to read but how many are actually going to be sold ever?

Very cool, but I can guarantee this is irrelevant to 100% of LLN’s userbase.

YOU ARE WRONG HOMEBOY, First maseratin came with the mc12, then Ferrari with the FXX.

depends how many people want to race em.

with that in mind, does the price tag just cover the cost of the car, or does it also include factory support, a spare parts kit, and maybe an extra engine?

good damn this thing looks friggin wicked, holy crap i love it. too bad its track specific, i would love to see one of theese driving along.

not worth 1.5mil

holy **** its nice

Although it was made to only be track specific, this car is stupefying. I love the Zonda, and this will surely get the drivers a lot of poon.

Brilliant. I hope it enters Le Mans and 24 hours of Daytona

don,

i think it’s great that you went ahead and cleared up the value of this car for us. i’m sure there were several multi-millionaires ready to pre-order one. if you hadn’t given your seemingly expert advice they might have wasted their money. again thanks from all the uninformed. i’m curious how you came to this conclusion though. when and where did you see the car? is there anything you can tell us about the craftsmanship or maybe the materials used? what’s it like to drive? i imagine it would be really fast but i wanted to ask you first before i went ahead and made any wild accusations. any ways, as someone who really likes cars and tries to get as much information as possible before passing judgement on things, i would appreciate if you coould keep me updated on any new insider stuff. thanks dork.

i just think that money could be spent much better on a different car. don’t get angered up over opinions, you won’t make it to 70

homeboy….the Enzo came first, then the MC12, the FXX and then the Zonda would follow when it is made

The Roadster F had only 650 hp, however you could get it with a higher hp, weighed in at 2800 pounds, could do 0-60 in 3.5 secs, and toped out at 214. So this will have 750 hp, presumably weigh less, have greater aerodynamics, better downforce.. etc. and will go up against the FXX ($1.875 million), MC12 ($800,000). The price tag on this car is right on. This is a new pinnacle for Pagani; I mean who would have guessed they would make an insane hyper car like this. If this doesn’t scream down the track at 240, and pull 1.3+ g’s, well then maybe its only worth $1.499.

^ $1.499 million.

guys ferrari made the enzo road car, then the maserati MC12 was made. The MC12 is just an enzo with different bodywork an longerwheelbase and a slightly detuned engine. Ferrari then came out with the FXX for customers, the MC12 was already a race car by then, after a while a FXX type MC12 was launched. This is very cool although id like to see this as a road car. I also love the fact that all these companies are making these cars. Although id be even hapier if they made a race series with all these cars. just have nonpro drivers and no limit whatsover on tech, except that the cars have to be closed wheel.

wow.

DAYUM!!

Isn’t the MC12 street legal? So it really isn’t in the same class as an FXX or a Zonda R.

yes it is street legal
this is badass though.. and looks like it could possibly be street legal?

SCHWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!! =D

Tho the back does need some reworking

The Corvette has got this thing beat!

No the mc12 is not completely street legal. at least i understand it is not street legal in the U.S but it is in Europe and most other countries.

I like this. It looks a lot better than the other Zondas

The Dodge Viper Competition Coupe came before the FXX or MC12. Aston Martin has the DBRS 9 (not the one that is supposed to come out based off the DBS, but one based off their DBR 9 race car). I think Pontiac also has a track car based off a street car. Honda has a drift version of the Element. So, there are lots of these cars already around.

And the Lotus 2-Eleven right under this that I forgot to add.

there was a car auction on tv last week where they sold, what they say is the only MC12 is the US for $1.5mil

gm Number one etc,

This thing would totally thrash the corvette. It is race-tuned by some of Europe’s fin est engineers. The Zonda is, I think, one of my favourite supercars. If you buy one, the Pope’s shoemaker makes you a pair of driving shoes. The Corvette is just a big plastic bathtub with an engine in it by comparison.
However, I do like the Corvette for its brashness and madness (even though everyone would think you’re a bit weird if you have one here in Europe)

Pagani is an extraordinary manufacturer, this is a cool plus for the brand

Also notice that GM#1 is back, after a bit of a nice, peaceful hiatus filled with logic and reason here at LLN

i think people are confusing the MC12 street car with the MC12 corse which is to the MC12 as the FXX is to the enzo.

btw this car isnt really even aimed at millionaires trying to get poon, its for privateer race teams in the ALMS and LMES etc… to race in endurance series and maybe have good enough results we may see a factory Pagani team

Oh… and BTW… how much horsepower does 1.5 million buy in a Corvette? Over 10,000.

pff 993gt2, id use it for poon.

The thing I don’t like about the Pagani is the rear. It has one ugly rear for an exotic sportscar. I know, it’s a silly complaint, but everytime I look at the ‘butt’, I just cringe.

umm that thing is pretty f%cking sick

Well said homeboy. GMetc, stop going on about bloody GM and realise that there are plenty of incredible cars apart from the cheapo corvette.

And anyway, 10000 hp in a Corvette would be in several of the cars. What is it going to be, a fleet of corvettes or one of these fantastic Paganis

1.5 million is the price of exclusivity. Look at the Plymouth Cuda Convertible. They will fetch a far bit now and that was cheap and affordable compared to this. Someday this car could end up costing collectors millions. Plus this car looks way better then the original Zonda and Ferrari FXX.

One thing I don’t get is that this has a 6.0ltr Merc-AMG engine that puts out 750bhp while the Zonda F has a Merc-AMG 7.3ltr putting out around 630bhp. Either way they should put this engine in the SLR 722 and strip the car of excess weight.

Question for GMnumber1forever - What you think of GM taking over chrysler and Dodge.

Stuart: GM is doing no such thing, they’re $300 billion in debt, they lose money on every vehicle sold, etc, they act like they might buy Chrysler but that’s only to divert out attention to the economic woes and to make it appear as if they still have the ability to make such a transaction. They don’t. They have so many problems of their own they aren’t about to buy Chrysler and take on a whole new slew of them, it’s a bull**** temporary technique at getting people to stop looking at how screwed up GM is right now, and it’s not fooling me.

MC12 is legal in the UK… Seen one with the plate 1 JET (I Jet) In black… sexy

Stuart….it wasnt just a ‘Cuda convertible…..it was a 1971 Hemi ‘Cuda convertible that sold for $2.16mil at the Barret Jackson auction…hell that car didnt cost more than $4,500 new in 1970, but there were only 11 made

A bit too pricy becauseof its speed well maybe not it has a beutiful exterior… I hope the back stays the same with the exauhst pipes and all.

Nice, but so what? It’s a race car essentially. Like a Formula 1 company selling off one of their 900 hp V8 monsters to someone in the public. So?

i was reading through the comments and didn’t notice that most of them were written back in march. then i saw gmnumberone4ever and was like “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! HE HAS RETURNED!”

I won’t buy it because I can’t take my mom to the supermarket with it. But that’s the only reason.

993gt2 - neither this nor the FXX are intended for privateer race teams. As Pagani say, and Ferrari have said before them it is conceived with “the ultimate performance at the racetrack without any implications of rules, except for safety” in mind.
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Every race series has rules that limit the performance of cars, those are the rules that are mentioned in the statement above. Those rules are the reason that the MC12 race car has restrictors fitted. These cars are for track-day enthusiasts with very deep pockets and a desire to experience the highest levels of performance.
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That said I’d be a very excited spectator if a bunch of private customers decided to get together and race these things.

AdibzumbaAbihganulah, of course you would, but only after you find somebody to help you retrieve your father’s millions from your home country, whose corrupt government have frozen your funds.
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I got your email and am touched by your plight, I’ll be sending you my banking details next week. I still get 10%, right?

Definetely not getting 1.5 mil from me. Neither is the Ferrari. I’d rather put that kind of money into a house and get a Bentley Continental or something. If I’m in that price range, I’d take the Veyron anyway

I read in some article months ago that 10 Zonda Rs would be built.

this thing is gonna be BAD ASS!!

If this thing sets foot on Le Mans (best racetrack and race in the world) it will terminate the Corvettes and Astons. This machine is proof of how Europe is still THE world leader in automotive technology. It is simply stunning.

This car is amazing. Its too bad I can’t afford one.

I’d rather get a Saleen S7TT. Oh yeah. I could get three for that price. I doubt the Zonda would beat the S7TT bad enough for it to cost an extra million dollars. Plus that money is staying in the US. There’s nothing like an American big block V-8.

what a carbon fibre orgy the saleen is just crap if i had the money i’d buy this as a track car sort of thing and a veyron for everyday

If you’re interested in cars of this caliber, the price tag probably doesn’t really matter. Not my kind of car (really almost more of a glorified go-kart IMO) but I’d still sport it.

Oh how I love the sight of raw carbon fiber.

And if they’re only building 10 of these, even with a price tag of 1.5 mil. Pagani will not be turning a profit on these. The cost of designing, engineering, production and then testing of a car of this caliber FROM SCRATCH is far beyond the 15 million selling 10 of them will bring in (and that would be assuming each car was pure profit, no cost of building). So while it is way out of my price range (about 1,450,000 out) I don’t think the cost is outrageous.

LP640: Interesting that you mentioned the Veyron. It’d be nice to see how the cheaper Veyron would stack up in the track against this more expensive Zonda. Every review of the Veyron indicated it is an extremely capable track car. Having 1000hp and the most sophisticated transmission ever built would make this Zonda R break a sweat. And at the end of the day, one could roll up and pick up ladies on the Vey.

Daayyyummm!!!!

The writing of this story is awful. ” It features a 750 horsepower from Mercedes’ AMG division, derived from the CLK GTR race car.” What’s wrong with this sentence? Oh, that’s right, perhaps it’s the fact that it might as well have been written by a 5th grader.

Also, the implementation of the word “proud” in the second to last sentence is an odd word to use, as the author displays nothing to back up the statement that the man is proud of owning 3 Pagani’s, and it more than anything comes across as just sloppy journalism.

Oh well. New writer I guess.

(cue Gran Turismo music)

I was awaiting the comment that Cyclone of Red made. I’m with him towards the doubt that this car turns much profit. Enhancing, revamping or combining the molds from the old body panels to to this “rugged” CF enveloupement alone helps me ponder the production cost. Depending on the method they take. Altering this chassis to see more track time is an interesting way to boost popularity but the engine choice should help to familiarize the “A” list clubhouse racing crowd.

I laugh at people who bitch about price of vehicles in this mega-supercar class. Trust me, all these cars… just like top tier Ferraris, Maseratis and Merc AMG DTM models… are all sold even before they’re built. Nobody really gives a rat’s ass whether you think they’re expensive or not, whether the Saleen or Mosler… or any other car is a better performance buy, or whether or not we even like them. If any of us won the biggest lottery jackpot on earth tomorrow, we still couldn’t get one. Just accept and respect them for what they are: Automotive excess for the fortunate few who’ll own them.

I’m not bitching about the cost of the car. As a matter of fact I think it’s fitting. Just merely statting facts. Just in case you were commenting about me.^

jamaicandude, I agree. Jaguar XJ-S, if you knew how to drive a race car, this would be well worth another million. The Saleen is trash compared to this, it may do 0-60 in 2.8 secs, but it wount be able to pull around a turn at over 1.5 g’s. If you could experiance that, you would probably piss your pants and not know it.

WickedDated, check your info again. While I don’t dispute that the Veyron is a capable car on the track, it cannot touch this Zonda. Both the Zonda F and the Carrera GT are faster around the Nurburgring BY about 8 seconds. The laws of physics cannot be ignored, and the Veyron,s weight doesn’t do it any favours in the corners, and even the power it has isn’t going to be enough to leve this lightweight Zonda wiht that much power that much behind. This will bury a Veyron on the track. Love both cars alot though.

I’m with Mclaren19p on the Veyron analysis. The mainstream reviews (Road & Track, etc.) all agree that the Veyron is not a sports car, let alone track car. It’s the ultimate luxury GT, but throw all that weight into the twisties, and it’s a different story.

The MC12 doesn’t belong in this discussion–it’s a road car and a watered-down Enzo at that, designed to homologate Maserati’s return to racing. Which itself seemed like a marketing stunt that (unlike Bentley’s campaigning of the Speed 8 for a year) didn’t really boost Maserati sales because the Quattroporte’s auto-manual was too harsh and the line-up was otherwise uninspired (which is something definitely corrected by the sexy new Gran Turismo).

Regardless, the Zonda R is a racing version of an otherwise fantastic road car, not designed for privateer teams, but, like the FXX, those fortunate few who can afford to park it at a race track and have fun on the weekends after they’re done corporate raiding during the week.

As for the car itself–pure beauty and sex appeal. I don’t mind the rear end–its reminiscent of Le Mans prototypes. Rumors of a new super-Porsche surfaced a few months back that will outdo the Carrera GT, which will likely have similar treatment. It’s the new trend in hyperperformance design.

I’m with Mclaren19p on the Veyron analysis. The mainstream reviews (Road & Track, etc.) all agree that the Veyron is not a sports car, let alone track car. It’s the ultimate luxury GT, but throw all that weight into the twisties, and it’s a different story.

The MC12 doesn’t belong in this discussion–it’s a road car and a watered-down Enzo at that, designed to homologate Maserati’s return to racing. Which itself seemed like a marketing stunt that (unlike Bentley’s campaigning of the Speed 8 for a year) didn’t really boost Maserati sales because the Quattroporte’s auto-manual was too harsh and the line-up was otherwise uninspired (which is something definitely corrected by the sexy new Gran Turismo).

Regardless, the Zonda R is a racing version of an otherwise fantastic road car, not designed for privateer teams, but, like the FXX, those fortunate few who can afford to park it at a race track and have fun on the weekends after they’re done corporate raiding during the week.

As for the car itself, I like the rear haunches (that oval thing in the way back should go, though). The next super-Porsche will be a Carrera GT-beater and will have similar Le Mans prototype design. It’s a trend we’ll likely see more of with hyperexotics.

But all, in all, this car is the reason why we win lottos or sell our soul to the corporate world.

Sorry about the double post–computer glitch.

Insufficient number of hood scoops, air intakes, etc.

A MERCEDES-BENZ ENGINE IS UNDER THE HOOD……AND FURTHER MORE ITS A NICE SUPER CAR.