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Illustrated: Pontiac G8 Coupe

02/29/2008, 1:45 PM

By jonaziz

Yesterday evening, we brought you the first ever images of Holden’s new Coupe 60 concept car — essentially a two-door version of the Commodore. Holden is GM’s Australian subsidiary, and the Commodore is currently sold in America as the Pontiac G8. So what might a Pontiac G8 coupe look like if produced? A heck of a lot like the Coupe 60 concept, of course.

Following yesterday’s debut, our artists put together two illustrations of how a Pontiac version of the car might look.

GM has said it has no plans for a new Pontiac Firebird muscle car to complement the new Camaro, but company PR man Jim R. Hopson recently said the automaker is considering offering a rear-wheel-drive Pontiac coupe nonetheless.

If the Firebird name is out of the question, the next logical choice would be GTO. Unfortunately, many enthusiasts feel that name has been damaged in recent years due to the lackluster design of the previous GTO.

What’s more, the last GTO was a low-volume vehicle with a powerful V8 engine only. GM likely wants its next Pontiac coupe to be higher volume and available with a V6, which makes the GTO name seem even less likely.

All of this leads us to believe the next rear-drive Pontiac coupe will simply be called G8 Coupe, following the naming scheme of the G6 sedan, coupe, and convertible.

Holden says it hasn’t yet decided if the Coupe 60 will go into production, but sources say it’s a very strong possibility. Exporting a Pontiac variant to the United States would be easy and very cost effective. Given the popularity of the G8 sedan, it would also be a smart move.

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02/29, 1:58 PM

posted by:

400horseSS

If it was produced it would eat at CTS coupe sales.

02/29, 2:00 PM

posted by:

F3INT))AP3X

Too bad it’s not the Holden, that thing looks wayyyyyy better than this.

02/29, 2:02 PM

posted by:

Madcapp

Sorry, but the front is just looking a little too 1987 for me. Also, the BMW esque grille that Pontiac adopted in the 80’s just screams “wanna-be”. I didn’t even touch on the Hoffmeister kink either. This would have been a good car to introduce during the Clinton era when gas cost 1/3 as much.

02/29, 2:15 PM

posted by:

youngm7

call it a GTO, it can’t hurt the name more. That thing looks mean.

02/29, 2:18 PM

posted by:

murphy1

i agree, the holden looks more aggressive, but this would still be a huge leap for pontiac. especially if there were a top of the line “t/a” or “judge” package to order, one with more aggressive features.

02/29, 2:19 PM

posted by:

murphy1

the rear lip spoiler on the coupe has got to go. on the sedan it is ok, but a couple needs something more…

02/29, 2:33 PM

posted by:

Blakkarr

Maybe I’m just that age where I really don’t understand nor care to understand your complaints about this car.

This is a lovely car to me. However, Pontiac has not yet sold me on this new, boxy style, but it takes a lot of themes Pontiac has been berated for a melded them together much more effectively. I just wish they had stuck to the cleaner, flowing, contours of the Bonneville, G6, and Solstice.

F3INT))AP3X,

Comparing this car to the Holden is like bitching you don’t like the car because it is not the color you like. The changes are seamless and very attractive. No one but a hypocritical neophyte would feign any kind of fault with this design.

400horseSS,

The concern about CTC sales is moot since neither car is on sale yet. But to be honest I think I would take this car over the CTC, but I’d need to test them both to know for sure.

Madcapp,

That grill has been a Pontiac hallmark for over 50 years and this current motif is an evolution of that design. The original motif could be best described as a “Split Grill” which was pared down over time to the current design, often equated to BMW’s “Twin Kidney” grill design. A design that neither side would claim exclusive rights to. (FYI: OLDSMOBILE used the same split grill design motif resulting some of the best designs to ever come out of GM. Sad they got canned.)

The stink JEEP raised over HUMMER using the “seven slot” grill is an example of how it is not necessarily copying, just what works or what was going to happen anyway. The H1 or “HumVee” was designed with a seven slot grill before GM built AM General and turned the thing into a franchise.

Also, owning a V8-powered sport anything would be better is gas was still stably under $2.25/gal. So no shocker you’d make that remark.

02/29, 2:36 PM

posted by:

Blakkarr

On the GTO,

We had this discussion before. The Name “GTO” can still be reserved for a top-tier machine in the line-up. Drop in a 500Hp VETTE V8 and tune the suspensiona nd whatever else. and there you go.

Everything else it a G7 (G8 Coupe).

02/29, 2:40 PM

posted by:

mazdaman

To quote Buster Poindexter: “It’s HOT, HOT, HOT!”

Don’t give the U.S. market a bunch of CAFE excuses or a rebadged Holden Ute. Just give us this beautiful coupe.

What a great 1-2-3 punch it would be for Pontiac if GM would follow through on giving this division the following three Zeta based products:
1) G8 sedan (Mission Accomplished!)
2) G8 wagon (Reconsider This!: A Pontiac car with greater utility)
3) G8 coupe (JUST BRING IT!: This product will revitalize Pontiac and make it relevant in the market again)

Give the Holden Ute to its rightful division: Chevrolet!

02/29, 3:09 PM

posted by:

RicardoHead

My God this car is beautiful.

02/29, 3:11 PM

posted by:

SS4LIFE

**** even LLN’s renderings of the “Pontiac G8 Coupe” are probably close to what an actual Pontiac model would look like. Whether they called this the Firebird (They won’t because of the Camaro) or GTO, or even G8 coupe, the only thing I would say is where can I put my deposit? :)

02/29, 3:30 PM

posted by:

Blakkarr

F3INT))AP3X,

The issue I have is that you are failing to understand that I like it and you don’t and finding fault in the design without understanding your own dislike for it makes you, at least appear to be, a neophyte.

I find the Holden 60 a bit too typical and even boring all over except the bumper which is cool but errs to much on Mercedes designs.

Overall, I find the G8 Coupe (G7) very graceful and very attractive. But If you hadn’t noticed The G8 Coupe has everything on it the Holden 60 does, except the side exhaust, which IS NOT legal in all 50 States. Besides it makes the car look more adult, less nostalgic, less “boy-racer” anyway.

Sorry, but at the end of it all, I find the G8 Coupe more tasteful.

I’m just that age. Sorry.

02/29, 3:41 PM

posted by:

DrFill

Lightyears better than the CTS Hatchback
Good job!
DrFill

02/29, 3:42 PM

posted by:

lou3000

I think there are a whole bunch of poorly trained monkeys working on designs at Pontiac.

02/29, 4:07 PM

posted by:

F3INT))AP3X

Your right Blakkarr the faults are not in the design, they are in the company. Pontiac makes **** cars.

02/29, 4:15 PM

posted by:

frylock350

@F3INT))AP3X or whatever your name is (how’d you come up with that, headbutt the keyboard?)
Pontiac makes perfectly fine cars. They’re just to boy-racer-ish. Blakkar is right that the G8 looks more grown up than the Holden.

02/29, 4:17 PM

posted by:

richt62167

Wow I hope they make this car

02/29, 4:23 PM

posted by:

F3INT))AP3X

I would have no problem with Pontiac if they just took the people’s word into account a little more like they didn’t do with the GTO. As for my name it consists of the word feint as in the technique used in many aspects of driving, and apex which I assume I don’t have to explain; the parentheses in the middle represent a curve on the road.

02/29, 4:24 PM

posted by:

america1st

That car is sweet price it right and it will sell… rebadge or not thats nice..

02/29, 4:27 PM

posted by:

Culley

“if it was produced, it would eat up CTS Coupe sales”??

Not at all… I just picked up my CTS sedan and took the two year lease to make sure I can get the CTS Coupe when it is supposed to be available. I like the looks of the Holden/Pontiac, but I am not interested in a G-8 Sedan over a CTS Sedan and the same holds true for the Coupe versions.

02/29, 4:55 PM

posted by:

america1st

Large penis ….must be like when you call a fat guy TINY

02/29, 4:57 PM

posted by:

master_chen

I am usually not for the dual hood scoops on Pontiacs, but in this case, I think the hood scoops will actually look good on it.

02/29, 5:27 PM

posted by:

zoomzoomr

Seems like a no-brainer, since there is already a two-door Ute pickup being built on the same platform that could share the same longer doors.

02/29, 6:18 PM

posted by:

audi-lover

first cool pontiac

02/29, 7:15 PM

posted by:

carguy70

Like the consept build it as true HARD TOP for both Holden and Pontiac. And like the Ute version for Pontiac is called G8 ST call it the G8 HT for HARD TOP! This should NOT be a new GTO but a G8 Hard Top Coupe! A GTO should be a streached Camaro with modern/retro GTO styling and no less then 500HP!

02/29, 8:42 PM

posted by:

SS4LIFE

I couldn’t agree with you more carguy70. Seeing it’s Holdens/G8’s underpinnings and design Pontiac would make a big mistake if they called it the GTO (like they did with the 04-06 GTO). But yeah use the Camaro’s Zeta chassis and then come out with real GTO. However while HT (Hard top) would fit well in the Pontiac G8 lineup name I think just G8 coupe would work.

02/29, 9:20 PM

posted by:

bigp

all the haters need to keep it , even do an little better. if you would work harder hating they will make more cars like this. i would buy it

02/29, 9:40 PM

posted by:

AxeHead

Front end again – stupid and old. This looks like a crooked copy of BMW twin air dams.

02/29, 10:16 PM

posted by:

autonut

I can’t believe I am saying it but it much classier coupe then BMW 6. Somewhere Bungle went sideway with Bommer, but this one looks great. It is better looking then A5 or large Benz coupe (actually those are fugly from my point of view). It is much better looking then any existing Caddy coupe as well. Very good proportions and symmetry in a coupe.
10 years ago when gs was $1/gallon tis car would be joy to own. Today, not so much. Another point is Australian reliability. Does anyone aware if it’s good or mediocre?
Now the last question: popularity of G8 sedan? I haven’t seen one on the road yet. I wish I had supplier in college as good as writers of those articles.

02/29, 11:01 PM

posted by:

johnnycanuck

Any of you critiquing this because of the trademark Pontiac nose need to have your heads examined. Gawd forbid the masses should be able to immediately identify the marque of a new domestic model that piques their attention. I’ve said many times a large part of the current malaise Detroit finds itself in is due to its decades long fascination with changing nomenclature with virtually every model cycle. So if they must keep changing the names, at least cut them some slack when they leave something we recognize.

03/01, 12:37 AM

posted by:

AxeHead

OK JC, but we all have a right to our opinions. I really like the new Challenger, but I’m bored to death with this ‘familiar’ nose, it’s tired in my OPINION.

03/01, 12:39 AM

posted by:

AxeHead

While their at it, maybe get rid of that stretched out triangle icon that represents Pontiac …. oooo sorry, maybe I stepped on sacred ground suggesting this.

03/01, 1:11 AM

posted by:

johnnycanuck

OK Axe, maybe I’m just being picky but have you noticed that today the nose is everything. There seems to be more attention paid to that one detail of brand identity than almost any other styling cue. I never said I was in love with the nose, rather merely relieved GM has chosen not to alienate those who may still be loyal to Pontiac any further.

03/01, 10:44 AM

posted by:

autonut

AxeHead count your blessing you pissed only JC. If you offended Grand**** you and all your family would be condemned! In addition to being insulted.
Pontiac, in my opinion, has a decent schnooze. Once they try to change it (Aztec) and it wasn’t great success. Rolls keep the same honker for the past 40 or 60 years. BMW is fooling around with theirs and not to the better end; Benz is complete disaster and Audi is celebrating Jewish heritage whom they did not succeed eradicating under Fuhrer. My vote is for Pontiac and for it honker to stay as it is: familiar and sort of good looking.

03/01, 10:56 AM

posted by:

AxeHead

Autonut – LMAO…Audi and Jewish front end, well said. OK, I admit, the Audi front end looks like a bored out Edsle, Edsel (however you spell that failure from eons ago).

03/01, 10:57 AM

posted by:

AxeHead

Nose score … familiar=2, ugly=2 …tie.

03/01, 2:10 PM

posted by:

jackjimturkey

I like it
187 out: Seems like you’re pissed off by the fact that someone has a small,limp pecker. Why?

03/01, 2:37 PM

posted by:

DomKing

This car looks just bloody beautiful! It gets the heart pounding more than anything GM currently offers (except maybe the Vette). With the performance raves the G8 is getting, along with its almost perfect interior, this coupe could finally be the car that gets lifelong German car buyers to come back home. Will GM have the guts to do it right without letting the accountants and marketing “experts” turn it into an Aztec? Bob Lutz, a car lover, will make sure they do. And GM will sell every one they make, with no incentives. Do it now!

03/02, 1:36 AM

posted by:

Heart64

This car is the same as the Holden not difference and eats too much gas!

03/02, 11:05 AM

posted by:

Blakkarr

Sorry no “Super-Prius” here. Get over it. This is the last generation of muscle and performance as we know it.

Enjoy it or don’t, but don’t bitch about it. We’ll be doing plenty of that ourselves in ten years.

03/02, 6:38 PM

posted by:

SS4LIFE

Autonut, we’re still about a month away from the Pontiac G8 even being available in showrooms. That’s why you haven’t seen any of them on the road yet. I don’t know i’m assuming they’re taking pre-orders though?

07/02, 11:21 AM

posted by:

bigfoot20

Forget cloning Aussie cars pontiac, they have made some really impressive designs before, the last generation Firebird was a work of art and more unique than any other car on the road, they made a really neat concept in 1997, called the rageous (http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z755/Pontiac_Rageous.aspx)
that really captured the style of the firebird with some more modern amenities and more of a hip multipurposeness to it, If they tweaked the design of that, and maybe toned down some of the utility functions of it it would sell like crazy, its almost like a vibe and a trans am had a baby. maybe call it G7 and make it weigh around 3000 lbs instead of the almost 4000 lbs of the G8, throw in the Displacment on demand 5.3L 303 HP engine from the retiring grand prix GXP and adjust it for rear wheel drive and you’ve got a relatively fuel efficient cool looking fast as hell car that in the end shouldn’t really be that expensive to build since you already have alot of the needed parts

 
 
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