Comments on: Quick Spin: 2009 Pontiac Vibe 2.4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:40:24 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: monte http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-416357 monte Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:38:32 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-416357 I've had enough time behind the wheel of both auto and manual versions to know they are some of the most boring cars to drive. I guess some people (most) are fine with just getting from point A to point B. But you couldn't get me to own one. I must agree though, the new model is much better. I’ve had enough time behind the wheel of both auto and manual versions to know they are some of the most boring cars to drive. I guess some people (most) are fine with just getting from point A to point B. But you couldn’t get me to own one. I must agree though, the new model is much better.

]]> By: Fromes http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-416012 Fromes Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:53:35 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-416012 thats a good point Oldraven....so why doesnt the G5 and the G3 have different sheet metal? can some one at GM please explain this?? thats a good point Oldraven….so why doesnt the G5 and the G3 have different sheet metal? can some one at GM please explain this??

]]> By: tins http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415997 tins Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:32:31 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415997 Damn, I was really hoping to get mine with a yellow porto-potty, yellow is much sportier! Damn, I was really hoping to get mine with a yellow porto-potty, yellow is much sportier!

]]> By: oldraven http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415996 oldraven Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:27:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415996 Fromes, I think the Astra was the right choice for Saturn. The entire purpose of that brand is to be a Domestic brand with Euro styled vehicles. The G5 should stay, but it should get unique sheet-metal, like this Vibe does next to the Matrix. If the number of Sunfires on the road is any indication, I'd say Pontiac can be successful in that segment, if the car is styled right. The Sunfire and Cavalier were always obviously related cars, but you would never mistake one for the other on the road. It was badge engineering done right. The same can't be said about the Pursuit and Cobalt twins, just as it will be with the Wave and Aveo. As for the Torrent, Pontiac never should have had one. The G8 ST is undeniably cool, but also undeniably not fit to be a Pontiac. The word 'Utility' should never have come close to the red arrow. If it has a box and it's a GM, it should be a Chevrolet or a GMC. IMO, if PBG dealers want a sub-compact, they should have a Geo branded Aveo, not Pontiac. Maybe just call it the Geo, and only have the one model. The name obviously resonates with the new fuel miser crowd. Fromes, I think the Astra was the right choice for Saturn. The entire purpose of that brand is to be a Domestic brand with Euro styled vehicles. The G5 should stay, but it should get unique sheet-metal, like this Vibe does next to the Matrix. If the number of Sunfires on the road is any indication, I’d say Pontiac can be successful in that segment, if the car is styled right. The Sunfire and Cavalier were always obviously related cars, but you would never mistake one for the other on the road. It was badge engineering done right. The same can’t be said about the Pursuit and Cobalt twins, just as it will be with the Wave and Aveo. As for the Torrent, Pontiac never should have had one. The G8 ST is undeniably cool, but also undeniably not fit to be a Pontiac. The word ‘Utility’ should never have come close to the red arrow. If it has a box and it’s a GM, it should be a Chevrolet or a GMC.

IMO, if PBG dealers want a sub-compact, they should have a Geo branded Aveo, not Pontiac. Maybe just call it the Geo, and only have the one model. The name obviously resonates with the new fuel miser crowd.

]]> By: Fromes http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415986 Fromes Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:47:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415986 Spent a lot of time in both the Last Gen vibe and the current one and can say the current version is light years beyond the old one. The 2.4 engine moves the car well, even up hill where the old car use to struggle, overall a step in the right direction, to bad this car isnt badged as a chevy or a saturn instead of a Pontiac. I just think that instead of GM giving Pontiac rebadged Aveos, Cobalts, and Toyotas, GM should have given Pontiac the Astra, call that the G5, saturn could have done fine with a gusied up cobalt. Pontiac needs to stay focused on being a sort of performance divison with sporty but still practicle vehilces, like mazda, or to a farther extent BMW. The G8 and Solstice are good editons to the brand, but The G3, G5, G6, and the up coming G8 ST don't make any sense. Pontiac should redesign the G6, make it more like an American TSX then a cheap Mailbu. Make it Lighter (maybe just give them the Cruze instead of Chevy?) and use the 260 hp 2.0l unit from the Solstice GXP instead of the 3.6 V6 that every other GM uses. Take the Astra from Saturn (I know its to Late) and give it to Pontiac, add a high performance version with athe turbo charged four. Instead of a G8 truck, Make a G8 coupe, sell it has a larger, more mature version to the Camaro. Then simpy walk the G3, G5, current G6 and the horrible Torrant out to pasture along with who ever thought they should have pontiac badges on them and shot them all in the back of the head, there Job done, Pontiac is back and now represents the brand that sold GTOs and Firebirds, not Montanas and Aztecs. I know I know, Keep dreamin.... Spent a lot of time in both the Last Gen vibe and the current one and can say the current version is light years beyond the old one. The 2.4 engine moves the car well, even up hill where the old car use to struggle, overall a step in the right direction, to bad this car isnt badged as a chevy or a saturn instead of a Pontiac.

I just think that instead of GM giving Pontiac rebadged Aveos, Cobalts, and Toyotas, GM should have given Pontiac the Astra, call that the G5, saturn could have done fine with a gusied up cobalt. Pontiac needs to stay focused on being a sort of performance divison with sporty but still practicle vehilces, like mazda, or to a farther extent BMW. The G8 and Solstice are good editons to the brand, but The G3, G5, G6, and the up coming G8 ST don’t make any sense. Pontiac should redesign the G6, make it more like an American TSX then a cheap Mailbu. Make it Lighter (maybe just give them the Cruze instead of Chevy?) and use the 260 hp 2.0l unit from the Solstice GXP instead of the 3.6 V6 that every other GM uses. Take the Astra from Saturn (I know its to Late) and give it to Pontiac, add a high performance version with athe turbo charged four. Instead of a G8 truck, Make a G8 coupe, sell it has a larger, more mature version to the Camaro. Then simpy walk the G3, G5, current G6 and the horrible Torrant out to pasture along with who ever thought they should have pontiac badges on them and shot them all in the back of the head, there Job done, Pontiac is back and now represents the brand that sold GTOs and Firebirds, not Montanas and Aztecs. I know I know, Keep dreamin….

]]> By: Stinky007 http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415977 Stinky007 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:10:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415977 I like this Toyota also! I like this Toyota also!

]]> By: howsmydriving http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415966 howsmydriving Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:20:00 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415966 Vibe shmibe, Matrix shmatrix. They're the some friggin car. Don't be a schmuck, buy whichever one is cheaper. Vibe shmibe, Matrix shmatrix. They’re the some friggin car. Don’t be a schmuck, buy whichever one is cheaper.

]]> By: cereal http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415960 cereal Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:55:43 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415960 As much as I'm impressed with the Matrix design language (especially looking at the OTHER models in Toyota's lineup), I'd say this one takes the cake. Now if the ignorant Americans who won't buy this because it's a Pontiac will step up, do their homework, and BUY this thing already, then I might just see more of this on the road. -eat your cereal As much as I’m impressed with the Matrix design language (especially looking at the OTHER models in Toyota’s lineup), I’d say this one takes the cake.

Now if the ignorant Americans who won’t buy this because it’s a Pontiac will step up, do their homework, and BUY this thing already, then I might just see more of this on the road.

-eat your cereal

]]> By: carstuff http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415957 carstuff Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:50:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415957 Hey, the Solstice is nice. G8, G6, Solstice, Matrix. Drop the G3 before it comes out. Do not need it with $2 gas. Pontiac SUV' is pretty much gone soon. G5 is great if coupe only and gets a performance engine. Then again it gets 37 mpg so it may be the vehicle of the future? I think the issue is the GMC/Buick/Pontiac did not have any high mpg vehicles. Vibe only gets 32 Hey, the Solstice is nice.

G8, G6, Solstice, Matrix. Drop the G3 before it comes out. Do not need it with $2 gas. Pontiac SUV’ is pretty much gone soon. G5 is great if coupe only and gets a performance engine. Then again it gets 37 mpg so it may be the vehicle of the future?

I think the issue is the GMC/Buick/Pontiac did not have any high mpg vehicles. Vibe only gets 32

]]> By: Thunder Chicken http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415939 Thunder Chicken Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:38:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415939 Did you know you can fit three adult great danes into a Vibe? I didn't know either (there are few objects on Earth capable of containing three great danes), until I saw it on my way to a dog show... BTW, you can also fit three adult bullmastiffs, a beagle and a Jack Russel terrier, plus four adults and one child, into a Town & Country. I was one of the adults. Did you know you can fit three adult great danes into a Vibe? I didn’t know either (there are few objects on Earth capable of containing three great danes), until I saw it on my way to a dog show…

BTW, you can also fit three adult bullmastiffs, a beagle and a Jack Russel terrier, plus four adults and one child, into a Town & Country. I was one of the adults.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415927 Andrew Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:03:21 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415927 beastus, I think it was the tamales. murderedout, thanks for the catch. Don't know how that one slipped through. We've fixed it with what we meant to say. You know how it goes... johnny, I think you're reading into our photo shoot location a little too much. Or maybe that's what we had in mind all along? beastus, I think it was the tamales.

murderedout, thanks for the catch. Don’t know how that one slipped through. We’ve fixed it with what we meant to say. You know how it goes…

johnny, I think you’re reading into our photo shoot location a little too much. Or maybe that’s what we had in mind all along?

]]> By: beatusmongous http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415924 beatusmongous Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:00:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415924 ^Is THAT why they chose that particular backdrop?^ ^Is THAT why they chose that particular backdrop?^

]]> By: PW http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415923 PW Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:59:38 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415923 I drove a last-gen Vibe as a rental car a year or so ago. I have to say that I liked it, and I think it's a good value. As for this new Vibe, it looks to me a lot like the last-gen Matrix. The interior also hasn't changed much at all from the last-generation except for better materials. I drove a last-gen Vibe as a rental car a year or so ago. I have to say that I liked it, and I think it’s a good value. As for this new Vibe, it looks to me a lot like the last-gen Matrix. The interior also hasn’t changed much at all from the last-generation except for better materials.

]]> By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415918 johnnycanuck Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:28:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415918 Andrew, excellent summation of Pontiac's dilemma but I could have said it far more economically. As in GM, either sh*t or get off the pot. Andrew, excellent summation of Pontiac’s dilemma but I could have said it far more economically. As in GM, either sh*t or get off the pot.

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415905 A4 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:45:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415905 and they do look pretty sharp on the road, i agree with that and they do look pretty sharp on the road, i agree with that

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415904 A4 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:43:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415904 15 grand? wow thats a decent price for this little hauler... 15 grand? wow thats a decent price for this little hauler…

]]> By: murphy1 http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415892 murphy1 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:23:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415892 agreed jayjc, that would be a good lineup, less the sportruck....in its place a coupe version of the g8 agreed jayjc, that would be a good lineup, less the sportruck….in its place a coupe version of the g8

]]> By: DrFill http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415890 DrFill Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:19:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415890 From the BTW file: It lloks like GM will court a real merger partner, and not Chrysler On hands and knees, but it sounds like am epiphany to me. Time to bring in a professional http://www.reuters.com/article/mergersNews/idUST7920920081029 DrFill From the BTW file:
It lloks like GM will court a real merger partner, and not Chrysler
On hands and knees, but it sounds like am epiphany to me.
Time to bring in a professional

http://www.reuters.com/article/mergersNews/idUST7920920081029

DrFill

]]> By: MurcieMe http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415881 MurcieMe Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:37:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415881 The Vibe is far better looking than the taffy-pulled lumpy look of the Matrix. Overall this is a pretty good car for the segment. I wouldn't buy one myself, but I don't cringe when I see one around town like I do when I see any recent Toyota product. The Vibe is far better looking than the taffy-pulled lumpy look of the Matrix. Overall this is a pretty good car for the segment. I wouldn’t buy one myself, but I don’t cringe when I see one around town like I do when I see any recent Toyota product.

]]> By: jayjc08 http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415879 jayjc08 Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:37:40 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415879 I really like the looks of it. They took a bit more effort to differentiate the Vibe and Matrix this time around. Although I would like to see a completely different dashboard, and some other structure related changes, they look fresh and good. Only products worth keeping in the Pontiac Porfolio: G8, Vibe, and G6 coupe/convertible. I really like the looks of it. They took a bit more effort to differentiate the Vibe and Matrix this time around. Although I would like to see a completely different dashboard, and some other structure related changes, they look fresh and good.

Only products worth keeping in the Pontiac Porfolio: G8, Vibe, and G6 coupe/convertible.

]]> By: DrFill http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415878 DrFill Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:34:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415878 Better than the Matrix now DrFill Better than the Matrix now
DrFill

]]> By: tyler_is_aero_tt http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415875 tyler_is_aero_tt Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:20:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415875 This looks really good on the road. This looks really good on the road.

]]> By: beatusmongous http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415869 beatusmongous Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:06:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415869 Nice backdrop. Someone have some bad clams for lunch? Nice backdrop. Someone have some bad clams for lunch?

]]> By: murderedout http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-vibe-quick-spin.html/comment-page-1#comment-415854 murderedout Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:41:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=10984#comment-415854 "Built as part of a Toyota-GM partnership in California at GM's non-union factory" -LLN Get your facts straight LLN! The NUMMI plant in Cali, IS UNION! NUMMI employees are represented by The International , United Automobile, Aerospace and Agricultural Implement Workers of America (UAW) Local 2244. UAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NUMMI [Leftlane staff: murderedout, thank you for pointing out the error. We made a simple mistake in the editing process and we've corrected the story to reflect the truth. Thanks!] “Built as part of a Toyota-GM partnership in California at GM’s non-union factory” -LLN

Get your facts straight LLN! The NUMMI plant in Cali, IS UNION!
NUMMI employees are represented by The International , United Automobile, Aerospace and Agricultural Implement Workers of America (UAW) Local 2244.

UAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NUMMI

[Leftlane staff: murderedout, thank you for pointing out the error. We made a simple mistake in the editing process and we've corrected the story to reflect the truth. Thanks!]

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