Comments on: Pontiac will get Zeta RWD car, but it won’t be a Firebird http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:36:45 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: monkeybars http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-292187 monkeybars Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:56:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-292187 I think you're confused, Simple Life. Did you read what was said, or just look at the picture? They're saying there WON'T be a Firebird. That's just the Camaro concept with the phoenix on the hood. Simple Life...try Simple Mind. I think you’re confused, Simple Life. Did you read what was said, or just look at the picture? They’re saying there WON’T be a Firebird. That’s just the Camaro concept with the phoenix on the hood. Simple Life…try Simple Mind.

]]> By: Simple Life http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-292165 Simple Life Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:05:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-292165 That is a sweet looking concept. If GM builds it, they'll be back on top for sure. Combine this with the new Camaro and GM is going to rule the muscle car world. Let's see your piddly Challenger or girly Mustang keep up with the new F-bods. Won't even be worth my time. Go GM That is a sweet looking concept. If GM builds it, they’ll be back on top for sure. Combine this with the new Camaro and GM is going to rule the muscle car world. Let’s see your piddly Challenger or girly Mustang keep up with the new F-bods.

Won’t even be worth my time. Go GM

]]> By: 79TA http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291826 79TA Wed, 10 Jan 2007 10:35:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291826 pass on the 5th gen Camaro but yes on a Firebird. My thoughts as well. GM doesn't seem to care about our market or niche or whatever it is. pass on the 5th gen Camaro but yes on a Firebird. My thoughts as well. GM doesn’t seem to care about our market or niche or whatever it is.

]]> By: MC http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291567 MC Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:52:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291567 The new Camaro looks cool but I wouldn't buy it and I know a true Firebird fan would do the same, other people don't really care. Comment by blacksuperbird I agree I wouldn't buy it either but I'd buy the firebird. The new Camaro looks cool but I wouldn’t buy it and I know a true Firebird fan would do the same, other people don’t really care. Comment by blacksuperbird

I agree I wouldn’t buy it either but I’d buy the firebird.

]]> By: BUYER http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291454 BUYER Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:29:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291454 They really ought to call it the 6000SUX They really ought to call it the 6000SUX

]]> By: 79TA http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291416 79TA Tue, 09 Jan 2007 09:18:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291416 That's not really true for the earlier F-bodies. Back when GM let Pontiac be Pontiac (the performance division), the Firebirds were Generally dominant. Yes a very small number of COPO Camaros had 427's etc but the Firebird boasted the Pontiac 400. A stock first gen Firebird sat a full inch lower than a First gen Camaro and handled better. It also was a full second quicker in the 0-60 when compared to the '67 Camaro SS. I could go on, but in short, average 1st gen Firebird > average 1st gen Camaro despite the Halo effect from cars from Yenko and Baldwin Motion etc. As for the second generation there should be no doubt that Firebirds (or more accurately, Trans Ams) were dominant over Camaros in every single aspect. 2nd Gen Trans Ams even took down the Corvette in several years. From the 3rd generation to the present though, I agree, GM has forced Pontiac to defer to Chevrolet despite being the "performance brand." If there is going to be a Zeta-based Pontiac Camaro cousin, it ought to be a Firebird. If it's going to be a sedan or some such thing, I'll just have to wonder what GM has againsts the Firebird and Pontiac. That’s not really true for the earlier F-bodies. Back when GM let Pontiac be Pontiac (the performance division), the Firebirds were Generally dominant. Yes a very small number of COPO Camaros had 427’s etc but the Firebird boasted the Pontiac 400. A stock first gen Firebird sat a full inch lower than a First gen Camaro and handled better. It also was a full second quicker in the 0-60 when compared to the ‘67 Camaro SS. I could go on, but in short, average 1st gen Firebird > average 1st gen Camaro despite the Halo effect from cars from Yenko and Baldwin Motion etc.

As for the second generation there should be no doubt that Firebirds (or more accurately, Trans Ams) were dominant over Camaros in every single aspect. 2nd Gen Trans Ams even took down the Corvette in several years.

From the 3rd generation to the present though, I agree, GM has forced Pontiac to defer to Chevrolet despite being the “performance brand.” If there is going to be a Zeta-based Pontiac Camaro cousin, it ought to be a Firebird. If it’s going to be a sedan or some such thing, I’ll just have to wonder what GM has againsts the Firebird and Pontiac.

]]> By: blacksuperbird http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291415 blacksuperbird Tue, 09 Jan 2007 08:47:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291415 I personally think that GM has favored Chevy(camaro) over Pontiac(firebird) since the begining. I mean both companies are owned by GM and almost in all generations the Camaro had more HP than the Firebird, if they were both making money for the same company why not give them the same performance and let the people choose. I own an '86 Firebird and I would like to see the Firebird reborn. The new Camaro looks cool but I wouldn't buy it and I know a true Firebird fan would do the same, other people don't really care. I personally think that GM has favored Chevy(camaro) over Pontiac(firebird) since the begining. I mean both companies are owned by GM and almost in all generations the Camaro had more HP than the Firebird, if they were both making money for the same company why not give them the same performance and let the people choose. I own an ‘86 Firebird and I would like to see the Firebird reborn. The new Camaro looks cool but I wouldn’t buy it and I know a true Firebird fan would do the same, other people don’t really care.

]]> By: 010111 http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291398 010111 Tue, 09 Jan 2007 05:23:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291398 the Solstice is being renamed to the Golstice. the Solstice is being renamed to the Golstice.

]]> By: MC http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291330 MC Tue, 09 Jan 2007 01:15:31 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291330 WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope they mean their gonna use the trans am name instead of the name firebird. How can you bring back the camaro and not have the firebird. Well they can at least give us a retro gto or something. Give me a break. WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope they mean their gonna use the trans am name instead of the name firebird. How can you bring back the camaro and not have the firebird. Well they can at least give us a retro gto or something. Give me a break.

]]> By: IVIIVI4ck3y27 http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291328 IVIIVI4ck3y27 Tue, 09 Jan 2007 01:06:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291328 I'll vote for Banshee (a name used on 2 previous edition Pontiac concepts for the Firebird & T/A). It doesn't have any known "image" to people that aren't gung-ho diehard gearheads who pay attention to these things, and even if they did know... they're probably not care one way or another. Beyond that... Banshee just sounds cooler than Firebird, T/A, and GTO IMHO. It's a bit ballsier than many companies are willing to push for today (sorta' like the old Dart Demon got laid to rest from hysteria amongst the religous types) so if the marketers want to get paranoid, we'll probably end up with something like the Pontiac "Magenta", complete with paisley seat fabric. :-\ :-P Could call it the GX. Sorta' a Roman Numeral play on G10. ;) I still like Banshee better though. I’ll vote for Banshee (a name used on 2 previous edition Pontiac concepts for the Firebird & T/A). It doesn’t have any known “image” to people that aren’t gung-ho diehard gearheads who pay attention to these things, and even if they did know… they’re probably not care one way or another. Beyond that… Banshee just sounds cooler than Firebird, T/A, and GTO IMHO. It’s a bit ballsier than many companies are willing to push for today (sorta’ like the old Dart Demon got laid to rest from hysteria amongst the religous types) so if the marketers want to get paranoid, we’ll probably end up with something like the Pontiac “Magenta”, complete with paisley seat fabric. :-\ :-P

Could call it the GX. Sorta’ a Roman Numeral play on G10. ;) I still like Banshee better though.

]]> By: autonutt http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291296 autonutt Tue, 09 Jan 2007 00:11:39 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291296 GTO fits the alphanumeric Pontiac system better than Firebird.. but then again, there is the Solstice.. GTO fits the alphanumeric Pontiac system better than Firebird.. but then again, there is the Solstice..

]]> By: deutschetouring1337 http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291269 deutschetouring1337 Mon, 08 Jan 2007 23:38:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291269 Heres an Idea the new Firebird T/A Turbo = LS7 twinturbo w/ dual GT2876R Garret turbines!!! Heres an Idea the new Firebird T/A Turbo = LS7 twinturbo w/ dual GT2876R Garret turbines!!!

]]> By: chevy490 http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291263 chevy490 Mon, 08 Jan 2007 23:35:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291263 well i bet it will be sweet what ever it is! well i bet it will be sweet what ever it is!

]]> By: Oldsmobile http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291248 Oldsmobile Mon, 08 Jan 2007 23:05:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291248 This will not be a Camaro clone. They will share no sheetmetal. This will not be a Camaro clone. They will share no sheetmetal.

]]> By: Piablo http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291242 Piablo Mon, 08 Jan 2007 22:48:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291242 Some logic to ponder... It has taken this long for the camaro to reach production. We can assume that if an original Pontiac is to be designed on the Zeta platform, as apposed to a camaro clone, then it will be that much longer the Pontiac will will take to debut after the Camaro. One also has to ask, is GM willing to spend millions in development for an original Pontiac design? Could Pontiac possibly design itself another success story of a Solstice nature?? Maybe, but that's a pretty big gamble. So again we are left with a Camaro clone badged the GTO. Pity. Call a GTO a GTO, a Camaro clone is what it always has been: A Firebird. Some logic to ponder… It has taken this long for the camaro to reach production. We can assume that if an original Pontiac is to be designed on the Zeta platform, as apposed to a camaro clone, then it will be that much longer the Pontiac will will take to debut after the Camaro. One also has to ask, is GM willing to spend millions in development for an original Pontiac design? Could Pontiac possibly design itself another success story of a Solstice nature?? Maybe, but that’s a pretty big gamble. So again we are left with a Camaro clone badged the GTO. Pity. Call a GTO a GTO, a Camaro clone is what it always has been: A Firebird.

]]> By: Blakkarr http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291239 Blakkarr Mon, 08 Jan 2007 22:37:52 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291239 GM has been known for defaming there most beloved nameplates, Monte Carlo, Impala, Le mans, Cutlass, and so on. I will miss Firebird, but I can live with GTO, if it isn't boring to look at and doesn't cost 40K for a badly adapted Aussie Muscle Car. 30K for a Pontiac specific performance-equipped car will be fine over a straight Camaro clone. Time will tell... GM has been known for defaming there most beloved nameplates, Monte Carlo, Impala, Le mans, Cutlass, and so on. I will miss Firebird, but I can live with GTO, if it isn’t boring to look at and doesn’t cost 40K for a badly adapted Aussie Muscle Car. 30K for a Pontiac specific performance-equipped car will be fine over a straight Camaro clone.

Time will tell…

]]> By: monkeybars http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291232 monkeybars Mon, 08 Jan 2007 22:18:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291232 I don't see why people hate the GTO design. No, it wasn't a radical design, but look at the GTOs of the late 60s and early 70s. Those weren't radical in comparison to the other cars at the time, so shouldn't it make sense that the GTO of today is a bit of a sleeper to those who don't know? Assuming the car is going to be a Camaro clone, to not name it the Firebird is simply foolish. When they gave the Camaro and Firebird the axe, the Firebird was a clone at the time, and it sold well...But, as a former Camaro Z28 owner, it really doesn't matter to me, I'd take the Camaro over the Firebird (or whatever they name it) any day. I don’t see why people hate the GTO design. No, it wasn’t a radical design, but look at the GTOs of the late 60s and early 70s. Those weren’t radical in comparison to the other cars at the time, so shouldn’t it make sense that the GTO of today is a bit of a sleeper to those who don’t know?

Assuming the car is going to be a Camaro clone, to not name it the Firebird is simply foolish. When they gave the Camaro and Firebird the axe, the Firebird was a clone at the time, and it sold well…But, as a former Camaro Z28 owner, it really doesn’t matter to me, I’d take the Camaro over the Firebird (or whatever they name it) any day.

]]> By: Scott Kempton http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291230 Scott Kempton Mon, 08 Jan 2007 22:12:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291230 I'm not sure why, but I sense that using the Firebird name would be a mistake. GM really seems to be on a roll these days, and that includes not only greatly improved product, but making good marketing decisions as well. I'm not sure there's room in the American psyche for both a resurrected Camaro AND a resurrected Firebird. But if they DO call it a Firebird, I hope to God it doesn't look like that cartoon in the picture above! I’m not sure why, but I sense that using the Firebird name would be a mistake. GM really seems to be on a roll these days, and that includes not only greatly improved product, but making good marketing decisions as well. I’m not sure there’s room in the American psyche for both a resurrected Camaro AND a resurrected Firebird.

But if they DO call it a Firebird, I hope to God it doesn’t look like that cartoon in the picture above!

]]> By: ArchAngel http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291216 ArchAngel Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:36:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291216 hey, as long as they don't call it the G10. I heard that it's most likely to be the GTO, but can't verify that. maybe this time they'll get styling to match performance. hey, as long as they don’t call it the G10.

I heard that it’s most likely to be the GTO, but can’t verify that.
maybe this time they’ll get styling to match performance.

]]> By: Renton http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291212 Renton Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:33:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291212 The GTO name is hardly tarnished. 400 hp makes up for a lot of styling. The GTO name is hardly tarnished. 400 hp makes up for a lot of styling.

]]> By: buenos http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291206 buenos Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:28:04 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291206 It would make sense to call it a Firebird, if it was a Camaro clone. According to the article, it will be built on the Zeta architecture That doesn't mean it will be a Camaro clone, only that it will be built on the same archtecture. It would make sense to call it a Firebird, if it was a Camaro clone. According to the article, it will be built on the Zeta architecture That doesn’t mean it will be a Camaro clone, only that it will be built on the same archtecture.

]]> By: Piablo http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291199 Piablo Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:09:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291199 Another marketing disaster this way comes... The support for Firebirds is as divisive as Mustang vs. Camaro. Not naming this car what it really is will bite them in the ass AGAIN. People are not as dumb as many would like to believe. The previous "GTO" was not a GTO but a rebadged car with a cool name. Failure. This new car is a Firebird through and throuh, calling it anything else will simply stifle sales. If it's such a bad idea to call it a Firebird, why is it a good idea to name the Chevy counterpart a Camaro?? Another marketing disaster this way comes… The support for Firebirds is as divisive as Mustang vs. Camaro. Not naming this car what it really is will bite them in the ass AGAIN. People are not as dumb as many would like to believe. The previous “GTO” was not a GTO but a rebadged car with a cool name. Failure. This new car is a Firebird through and throuh, calling it anything else will simply stifle sales.

If it’s such a bad idea to call it a Firebird, why is it a good idea to name the Chevy counterpart a Camaro??

]]> By: Oldsmobile http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291195 Oldsmobile Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:00:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291195 I have a 95 Trans Am, so I'm not hating on the bird. But Firebird always played second fiddle to Camaro. Look which one came back... I have a 95 Trans Am, so I’m not hating on the bird. But Firebird always played second fiddle to Camaro. Look which one came back…

]]> By: BUYER http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291190 BUYER Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:53:35 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291190 That's because the Firebird was a much more aggressive looking car, especially the Firehawk. That’s because the Firebird was a much more aggressive looking car, especially the Firehawk.

]]> By: hockeygod1331 http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291187 hockeygod1331 Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:44:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291187 Referring to Oldsmobile's comments, judging by resale value, the Firebird was not a weak Camaro rebadge. The used car values of the last generation Firebirds are higher compared to the last gen Camaros. Referring to Oldsmobile’s comments, judging by resale value, the Firebird was not a weak Camaro rebadge. The used car values of the last generation Firebirds are higher compared to the last gen Camaros.

]]> By: buenos http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291186 buenos Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:43:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291186 Neither is Aztec.. but that might not be such a good idea. Neither is Aztec.. but that might not be such a good idea.

]]> By: BUYER http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291184 BUYER Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:43:00 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291184 Montana isn't being used anymore, they should call it that Montana isn’t being used anymore, they should call it that

]]> By: u8init http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291182 u8init Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:39:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291182 call Sunfire.... call Sunfire….

]]> By: anyclearer http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291180 anyclearer Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:37:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291180 I always thought the camaro looked weaker then the firebird. The firebird/ trans am, had the high profile wing, and hot ram air hood. The camaro was less attractive to me atleast. But Like Oldsmobile said, i dont care what the call it, just make it hot and more different then the camaro. I always thought the camaro looked weaker then the firebird. The firebird/ trans am, had the high profile wing, and hot ram air hood. The camaro was less attractive to me atleast. But Like Oldsmobile said, i dont care what the call it, just make it hot and more different then the camaro.

]]> By: Oldsmobile http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291170 Oldsmobile Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:22:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291170 Firebird nameplate is ruined if any of them are. It was always a weak camaro rebadge. I don't think any names are tarnished because the people who say that wont consider a GM product anyway. I just want an aggressively styled, V8 RWD coupe from Pontiac, I don't give a shit what they call it. Firebird nameplate is ruined if any of them are. It was always a weak camaro rebadge. I don’t think any names are tarnished because the people who say that wont consider a GM product anyway.

I just want an aggressively styled, V8 RWD coupe from Pontiac, I don’t give a **** what they call it.

]]> By: Adrio http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291167 Adrio Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:16:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291167 The last GTO was so freggin boring looking I think it ruined the nameplate for ever. Naming it a Firebird would be better. Or something completely new. The last GTO was so freggin boring looking I think it ruined the nameplate for ever. Naming it a Firebird would be better. Or something completely new.

]]> By: jamey http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291156 jamey Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:54:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291156 so is Trans Am out also? so is Trans Am out also?

]]> By: deutschetouring1337 http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291155 deutschetouring1337 Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:52:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291155 "I think I'm gonna faint from all the gayness above" Oh man, now maybe Burt Reynolds can do a 4th Smokey and the Bandit, oh wait Jackies dead...damnit! “I think I’m gonna faint from all the gayness above”
Oh man, now maybe Burt Reynolds can do a 4th Smokey and the Bandit, oh wait Jackies dead…damnit!

]]> By: buenos http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291154 buenos Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:51:35 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291154 Smart move... no clones, no badge engineering, each division with its own products and character. Smart move… no clones, no badge engineering, each division with its own products and character.

]]> By: Syrax http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird.html/comment-page-1#comment-291148 Syrax Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:43:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/pontiac-will-get-zeta-rwd-car-but-it-wont-be-a-firebird/#comment-291148 i like that firebird above...made by germans, eh! i like that firebird above…made by germans, eh!

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