Can you say “Boxster E”?

Porsche is an engineering company – they should be able to figure this out on their own. And really the whole EV thing is really a battery exercise – the rest of the technology is well understood.

RUF is an independent company

Why am I not surprise…

i say why not! the GT-R set the standard for supercar performance why not look into the tesla and see what porsche can do with their own boxster/cayman platforms? a performance of porsche with no emissions..that would be great!

Porsche did not build the E-RUF , Ruf Automobile GmbH built it.

They probably make enough profit in three 911 sales to cover the cost of that Tesla. Why don’t they just buy the whole company?

Ya, as mentioned, RUF is an independent company, despite the close ties they have with Porsche.

As for the Tesla, it’s a good plan to look at already further ahead designs to try and get some ideas. But I would have gone towards the Pininfarina B0 as it is a lot more novel in terms of engineering than the Tesla. Never mind the size/shape of the B0, in terms of technology it’s miles ahead of the Tesla.

Hmmm, the Germans trying to figure out how the Americans did it. I love it.

Next they’ll be buying a ZR-1 so they can figure out how it completely obliterates every German sports car ever made.

Its already been addressed 3 (or 4?) times above, but is this actually a legitimate site that publishes articles implying that Porsche manufactures RUF cars? Come on now. This is ridiculous.

With all the air circulatory stuff in vehicles… you think they’d be able to cool a couple hundred batteries down from melting.

You know what I think would have been neat though? Something like the Pininfarina Sintesi concept. A small sedan for Porsche would make more sense than the Panamera. Small, nimble, and maybe not even electric. But an electric powertrain would sound great. Lithium batteries with half the weight of current ones and half the space… More efficient structure, modern and sleek. Something to seriously take Porsche a bit ahead of their current (stuck in the past) designs.

Speaking of the Tesla, has anyone else seen this Brabus tuner kit for a Tesla???
http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/2009/top-2009-Brabus-Tesla-Roadster.htm
Makes me wonder if all electric cars are gonna have an “exhaust” sound system to recreate your favorite engine’s full throttle roar?

If they’re impressed enough, Porsche may just buy Tesla while it’s cheap.

I think Porsche is starting to loose its cool. first the are upset that Nissan bought a 911 turbo to build their GT-R, and henceforth, built a better Porsche then they themselves. Now they are purchasing AMERICAN cars to make their vehicle, or rather electric vehicle, better. I wonder whats next in the auto industry

“I think Porsche is starting to loose its cool. first the are upset that Nissan bought a 911 turbo to build their GT-R, and henceforth, built a better Porsche then they themselves. Now they are purchasing AMERICAN cars to make their vehicle, or rather electric vehicle, better. I wonder whats next in the auto industry”
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You folks post some pretty funny comments you know.
“Built a better Porsche then they themselves”?
Haha. Let me tell you something. Porsche isn’t upset because Nissan built a cheaper(over-rated) car that claims to be faster then their 911 Turbo. They’re upset because of all the IGNORANCE & HYPE people like you spread throughout the industry. It’s contagious you know. First starts on the internet, then spreads like wildfire to magazine editors. Next thing you know, everyone starts believing it.
I don’t think ever in the history of automobiles has there been a something that received so much hype.

There is so much hype surrounding this car, I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends of on the “wonders of the world” list next year. Why isn’t NASA studying this marvel of technology. Hey, do you think it was developed at Area 51? I heard if you hit 88mph it makes 1.21 jigowatts and then…*sigh*

Have you ever sat inside a current 911 Turbo and observed the craftsmanship that goes behind one of them? Or what about the resale value within a 5-year period that seems to triumph any other comparable model other than Ferrari/Lamborghini(certainly not a Nissan)?
Probably not. “GT-R fanboys”, are too busy spewing their ridiculous comparisons of speed to a car that offers more than just.

Having owned a ‘06 Mitsubishi Evolution IX MR ed. previously, I’d like to ask everyone something.
Why didn’t the 2005 Mitsubishi Evolution VIII FQ-400 ever get this much recognition? It has similar performance numbers as the current GT-R, was faster all-around than a (then new)’05 Porsche 911 Turbo “S” with 444HP. It also cost just over $70,000US (although only offered in UK).
So you had better performance than a Turbo S for less. Tuning-wise, it is currently just as capable as an R34, both in acceleration and in handling. Nobody made a big stink about it back in 2005. Then again, Mitsubishi didn’t go around “acting” like they were building supercars.(btw, thanks Nissan/Press for diluting the word SuperCar, it use to sound more special before and had a different meaning)

I can imagine how frustrating it must be for Porsche having to tolerate all the critisism from everyone about the GT-R. And i’m not just talking about Porsche, because if it were Ferrari’s F430, or Lamborghini’s Gallardo being targeted, I would be having the same conversation right now.

There’s no reason for Nissan going after Porsche so blatantly. Anyone who knows Porsches racing history and their engineering know what they are capable of. You honestly think a company who gave us the 956, the amazing 962, and the 911 GT1 can’t come up with something for the GT-R!? Give me a break!

There is a reason they always top J.D Power’s list in quality and reliability…
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/04/2008-jd-power-rankings-released/
(Notice where Porsche is. Now notice where Nissan is)
There is a reason why they are at the top of their game when it comes to craftsmanship and build quality. It’s because they don’t put all their focus and effort into what their 911’s 0-60 time is or what they run at the Ring. Nissan did, and this is what you get…

-A harsh ride.

-A transmission that may result in mechanical failure if launch control “feature” is used repeatedly

-A warranty that will void if you try and match Nissan’s 0-60 claim by using their launch control “feature”

-A warranty that will void if you disable you’re Traction Control(must be an industry first lol)So forget
about tracking it.

-Looks like a Hyundai with a bodykit or something you made out of Origami

-No manual transmission option

-A transmission that CLINKS & CLANKS at times when you or it shifts

-Only certain aftermarket wheels can be used due to retarded wheel sensor/valve stem design

-Maxima fit & finish for $77,000

Sounds good right?

I’m just really sick of seeing this Nissan + Porsche comparison. They are different companies, with different philosophies on building cars, going after different markets(customers).
Porsche is more than capable of delivering something with the performance of the GT-R for under $80k, but it’s just not them and their not going to do it..

-You want (semi)cheap performance, you get a GT-R, an Evolution X, a Corvette,etc.

-You make a little more and you want to reward yourself with something that’s more than just a performance figure, you buy a Porsche…a Ferrari… a Lamborghini, and Aston Martin,etc.

Now sorry for the rant everyone. I had to get it out of my system. *sigh*

And for the record, for those who think I’m a Porsche badge-whore / fanboy.
I have owned German(Porsche, Mercedes), Japanese(Mitsubishi), & American(Dodge,Jeep). I am not biased toward any brand. I buy what I like and not what others like.
I’d buy anything from a Mustang to a BMW to a Honda, as long as I see something interesting, I’m all for it.

In addition,
I currently drive an ‘08 Wrangler 4DR Rubicon and am looking to get a nice sportscar early to mid-next year.
Despite what I said above about Nissan and their GT-R, I am extremely interested in the new 370Z. It looks promising so I’ll have to wait and see. Hopefully this one doesn’t get all hyped up like the GT-R so I don’t pay over sticker at the stealership LoL.

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Hmmm, the Germans trying to figure out how the Americans did it. I love it.

Next they’ll be buying a ZR-1 so they can figure out how it completely obliterates every German sports car ever made.

That’s silly.

Everyone knows why the ZR-1 is “sooooo goooood” – It’s the lubricants they use… The excess lipids of lipsuction patients in the US… they also use the excess fat of obese Americans to cushion the driver inside and it works wonders with the stiff springs to bring an excellent balance. The fuel is also a cheat… Runs on excessive American arrogance, and they can also bend the laws of physics due to AI(TM) – That’s American Ignorance, not Intelligence: “Duh, lets ignore how good the rest of the world is and our magical belief will MAKE OUR CARS RAWK WORD!”

Andre –

Everyone knows you’re a Porsche and German car fan boy. You’re so biased towards them its pathetic. If you want to pay more and get less with a Porsche, go ahead. Porsche thrives on suckers like you.

I would pick a GT-R at $77k over a 911 Turbo at $135k anytime. Hell, I would pick the GT-R over the 911 Turbo even if they were both $77k. The GT-R is a faster car, period. And while you may not like the look of it, some people do, and at least it looks much different than the 911, which has looked pretty much the same for the last 20 years! The styling of the 911 is beyond old and tired.

Don’t worry about a wait list of paying over sticker for a 370Z. It’s simply a refresh of a car that’s been out since 2002 – not an entirely new car. And from the looks of it, I don’t think people will be beating down Nissan’s doors to buy one. I think the old one looked better.

…. try nearly 40 years.

If I had the money, I would buy a Porsche. It’s been refined to a fine tuned machine, reliable and lots of attention to details. Nissans GTR just comes with too many strings attached.

Z06ified… the 370z is actually new from the ground up. Sure it looks similar but give the japs some credit. Haha. As much as I love Corvettes (dream of owning even a regular C6 coupe one day), you gotta love the quality, precision, and craftsman ship of a porsche. C’mon man.

First of all, I second all those comments about LLN not getting its facts straight–to a mainstream journalist, maybe someone not covering the car world beat, yeah, maybe the Porsche-Ruf distinction gets blurry. But, c’mon, an enthusiast website not understanding the difference? That’s grounds to dump the editorial staff–someone should have caught that!

If I had the money, no contest, I’m putting a 911 Turbo in my garage. I think the GT-R is a great achievement for Nissan, and if I had the money, would I buy a GT-R over a Carrera? Well, that’s a problem I’d like to have (if the GT-R came with a manual tranny, I could tell you my answer right now).

I’m not suprised that Porsche bought a Tesla. It’s only because that car gets hype that it even makes news. I’m sure most sports car manufacturers are buying up competitors for comparison’s sake. Nothing new there.

Another snipe at LLN: should Ruf (yeah, Ruf–not Porsche) really be chagrined because the 911 electric doesn’t outperform the Tesla? Talk about your apples and oranges. We’re talking about ironing out the technology here, so look no further than the donor platforms. The difference between a Lotus Elise and a Carrera is what? around a couple thousand pounds? So did Ruf lose face because it couldn’t change the laws of physics? Don’t think so.

“A harsh ride.

-A transmission that may result in mechanical failure if launch control “feature” is used repeatedly

-A warranty that will void if you try and match Nissan’s 0-60 claim by using their launch control “feature”

-A warranty that will void if you disable you’re Traction Control(must be an industry first lol)So forget
about tracking it.

-Looks like a Hyundai with a bodykit or something you made out of Origami

-No manual transmission option

-A transmission that CLINKS & CLANKS at times when you or it shifts

-Only certain aftermarket wheels can be used due to retarded wheel sensor/valve stem design

-Maxima fit & finish for $77,000

Sounds good right?”

First of all anybody buying a near 500hp twin turbo beast car built to take on even the most capable of exotic sports cars should expect a slightly harsh ride as you cannot feel your contact points without having what most people call “a harsh ride,” maybe if you were a real performance driver you would know all about that Andre. Secondly all this press about the transmissions breaking is because people followed a complex set of instructions online. I’ll rephrase that; users of the car followed a set of instructions handed to them by a fellow tweaker and there is no LC section of the computer or a button or anything, simply a set of tweaks that secretly activates the LC. Obviously this is a developer tool not meant for public use and that is why there is not a clear and easy way to activate it, its like tearing your whole engine apart and expecting the factory to put it back together because you couldn’t do it yourself, they won’t because you decided to mess with it the end. As for traction control the GT-R is so advanced you do not need to turn it off, the entire principle of driving that car is based around learning when to let the computer do the work and when to overpower it with your own skills. There is no manual transmission options because as fun as they are there is no denying that they are now very obsolete in terms of performance and efficiency as well as being prone to human error i.e missing a gear. BTW took a ride in one last week and didn’t hear a single clink OR clank Andre, thanks.

Well check this out Andre Neves, I’m not saying the GT-R is a better car than the Porsche brand, I was simply stating how jealous it seems of them to want to figure out what the Americans are doing. I just thought it was rather hilarious to know that anyone would purchase our cars to scramble their brains wondering how we did it. Of course, car companies doing this is no new news but you’d usually hear about lesser, or lack of better words, crappier companies buying expensive cars to make theirs better. I don’t care much for Nissan as it is, but when something as legendary as the Z car and the GT-R arrives, its pretty interesting to hear about. And by the way, your a hilarious prick =)

I.E. Nobody care about what you once had and your big spill over why you have anger issues when others express how they feel about a new article. We have enough issues in this world and people like you make it harder to live in.

^ Tesla Roadster is about as American as the Pontiac G8(Designed & built in Australia)

Tesla Roadsters are Designed and Assembled at the Lotus factory in England.

Great cars btw.

Valid point.

“Tesla Roadsters are Designed and Assembled at the Lotus factor”

But their drivetrain was designed here, which is the only thing that really separates it from the herd.