$170,000.00, WTF? Does this indicate the NSX will be very expensive as well?

Wow more than a Ford GT, what a transparent rip-off. These things are gonna sit on the lot forever. I wonder what re-labled Toyota this Lexus is gonna be? Looks like a Supra that costs $130,000 too much. And of course its another L-boring, L-ugly, L-generic style excersize. Just think, you can get the new Infiniti G coupe redesigned for 07 that looks better than this “supercar” for $135,000 less.

LoL…another pathetic attempt at a sport car from Toyota. Pleazzzzeeee.

Better off waiting for a raw muscle 2008 Dodge Viper code name – 700.

for that money, it had better look a LOT better than that concept.

Seriously? Think of what you could get for $170K! (Or what you can get for FAR LESS – ie: 997 Turbo, CLS55 AMG, M5, Maserati, Aston Martin…)

Matt is right – although I guess it all boils down to one thing: performance.
With such a price tag, the competition is at very high levels. And since they know it, it could be that this car will be a stunning drive.
Still, I was in love with the old NSX and I have far higher expectations for that, rather than for this.

Personally, I loved the styling of the LF-C concept, but this current concept is quite a bit less appealing. Nevertheless good for anyone who makes another fast car, if you don’t want one or it’s too expensive for you… DON’T BUY ONE. Cheers!

That front end looks like it came off a Saturn. I’m not putting $170K on a Lexus.

This is another Chrysler Crossfire waiting to happen.

Don’t believe a word of it. Edmunds is so huffing the crack pipe. How can you believe this cr@p they spew. The car is going to have a V8, because that’s what F1 is racing now, not last-year’s V10. Toyota has said that publicly when asked V-8 v V-10, and yet Edmunds says otherwise?. And it’ll be priced at $110, not $170k. Idiots.

I still wouldn’t pay $110K for a Lexus.

What if it was the exact same car but was baged with BMW or the prancing horse? Then it would be beautiful and a bargain @ $170k, right?

Yes, Ahk-Med… and why?

Because said companies are actually well-respected in enthusiast circles, and for good reasons.

Lexus isn’t even respected in the field of exterior car design, much less enthusiast circles. People buy Lexii because of their solid reputation, quality, value, and reliability, not because they look good on the outside. No one’s going to shell out $100K+ for a brand that still hasn’t reached the same level of BMW and Mercedes. The most expensive Lexus right now isn’t anywhere near the most expensive German luxury coupes/sedans. Lexus still has many gaps it hasn’t filled yet. They’re still a step below the European luxury makers in terms of status/reputation among consumers. And they’re not going to be taken as seriously until they improve their design, inside and out. Baby steps, guys. Baby steps.

Nobody wants to hear it Ahk-med, We’re all technical enthusiats here and we know Lexus is a marketing program for re-lableing Toyotas and selling them for a premium price. Lexus enthusitats always want to bring up reliability…and that’s fine, but Kia’s have 10 year warranties. And that’s all you can talk about with Lexus, because they certianly don’t have it in the performance or looks department. That LF-A is crap no matter what badge you slap on it.

Oh, that Ahk-med. Ever the jackass.

Reminds me of the concepts from the late 80s and early 90s. It already looks out-dated.

….and 15 years ago MB and BMW refused to believe that Lexus and Infiniti could possibly be a threat to their franchise. Nevermind the Lexus brand name, Toyota beyond a doubt has the ability to compete with any of the European automakers so the engineering is not in question.

As to Lexuses being nothing but rebadged Toyotas.. I guess Toyota must make some damn good cars because those IS, GS, and LSs are equal if not better than the competition in many ways. They just happen to cost less. But I know so many folks measure quality by how much they allow a so-called “prestigeous” company to over charge them.

There’s no question that Lexus and Infiniti have come a long way since they started and they are building wonderful cars, but the fact remains. 9 out of 10 people that can actually afford to buy a $110,000+ sports car aren’t going to consider Lexus. It’s the same as that Acura RL article on LLN not long ago. At 50k, that car is just too expensive for the Acura community and that’s why many of them are sitting on the lots. I just think Lexus is going to need more time to prove itself a viable alternative, in all segments, to the offerings of BMW and Mercedes. I guess the only way to tell is to see what the final version that rolls onto showrooms really has to offer the buyer.

Madcapp, I think your problem is you read my posts and think they are some kind of endorsement of the vehicle being discussed.

I don’t question anyone’s critque of the LF-A’s looks or alleged price (especially the price). My point is, are we hear becuase we’re interested in the machines themselves or the the emblem on the hood? It’s been hinted that the second largest automobile manufacturer in the world is developing a v10 powered 500hp vehicle and before a final product has been revealed its dismissed for being a rebaged Toyota. Besides, as of now the LF-A is closer to fantasy than reality. Sure the final product could be ugly and overpriced, but its not as if that would be an industry first.

What would we rather see Toyota do? Add another econobox to the Scion lineup? Tool up to add capacity to make another 100 thousand Camry’s a year?

I’m an asshole becuase I question the group think here at LLN. I’m comfortable with that.

Toyota is better making a retro sports car resembling the E-Type than try to show creativity in the design department that they don’t have.Stick to what you do best, copy other cars’ looks.

Lexus, as I said before, has many more gaps they need to fill and issues to deal with before they go out on a limb and build a $170K supercar. They still need to take care of their bread and butter first. They still don’t have a IS coupe to compete with the C-Class coupe or the BMW 3-series coupe. They still don’t have a small, mid-priced (luxury-speaking) coupe/convertible to go head to head with the SLK, Z4, TT, and Porsche Boxster, much less the Infiniti G35 coupe (don’t even try to bring up the big-butt SC430). They still don’t have a compact SUV. Their LS still doesn’t compare to BMW’s 7-series and Mercedes’ S-Class in luxury content or feel, much less appearance. And they still don’t have a coupe that goes head to head with the 6-series or the CL-Class. They don’t even have a single wagon in their lineup. Lexus lacks the sporty image that the Euro luxury brands have, and they still reinforce their stodginess by having an ES sedan to steal sales and attention away from the IS. That’s why they are and will continue to only be a volume luxury brand and not one that’s taken as seriously as the Euro brands by auto enthusiasts. Madcapp is right, Lexus is a marketing exercise (albeit a successful one) for Toyota to sell cars at a premium price. Though Lexus has gradually tried to dissipate the image of them as simply an appliance (and I commend them for it), as of today they still lack personality, original styling, and performance/dynamics. They are a volume luxury brand that competes on price and a rock solid reputation. Bottom line.

Well said.

Why would a company with no soul try to make a sports sedan? much less a super car.

don’t compare the Toyota/ lezus versus the danmmm honda or viper, coz ain’t the same,
toyota holllllld reputation base on reliability , and built of quality that last 300,000 miles still running baby. nissan g35/ skyline luv it but Honda missssssss me with that, sorry , but that’s the reality in drag racing.
toyota / lexus best JAPANESE AUTOMOBILE in the world accept that.
i’m not buying $170,000 toyota that’s crazzzzy price ,but i’m the hardcore toyota lover…

To all the so-called enthusiats here bashing lexus, if you don’t want to shell out 170k on a lexus, then that’s your business, but one thing for sure is that Lexus is not stupid. Being on of the most profitable car maker in the world doesn’t come by chance. I work for the lexus line and inside news tells me when this LF is released, it’s gonna blow the competition away by a long shot. Just like most people who test drive the RX350 end up buying it over the ML350 (most of them get towed a lot by the way) likewise most people who will be in the market for a sporty hot coupe after test driving the LF will end up buying it as well once they come to realize what the car will have over the competition.

So, who cares about how you feel regarding rebadged toyotas, after owning a bmw and mercedez benz, I’ll tell you a Lexus is a far better engineered vehicle in all fronts. Don’t take my word, just ask a mechanic who has worked on all the brands and they’ll tell you all the issues that are just waiting to happen with the german vehicles not to mentioned the ones they have already fixed several times. And as far a looks are concerned, ahhhammm BMW is the only one that is on top in that department. Mercedez doesn’t make good looking cars for the record, and the way they screwed up the newly designed CLk is just beyond me. I’ll take an IS350 any day over C class or 3 series. It is just a better looking car period. Since when is getting more for less a bad idea?

I don’t just want to spend high dollars for a car, I also want that car to not break down on me or have electrical problems over and over again like MB and BMW are so notorious for. Fixing these suckers isn’t exactly cheap either. So you all need to get F#$%ing real in your comments. Simple economics will tell you it makes no sense investing your hard earned dollars on a piece of Sh!7

Keep in mind, I have owned all three so I am speaking from experience.

Thanks

Just about to turn 300k on my 1990 Ls400 – Can you say “Dollars per-mile”?

I’m going to have to agree with helmack and Wade. I’ll give it to the rest of you that while Lexus is not (yet) as much of a recognizable status symbol than BMW or MB, the overall quality of construction is far better… and this comes from my own personal experience as a previous owner of all three brands (my current being Lexus).

The LF concept cars are being put out by Lexus to show their goals of becoming more recognizable worldwide, and by looking at both the specs AND appearance the upcoming LS Class (based on the LF-Sh) I’d say that MB and BMW are really gonna have some real competition here.

Lexus is still, by all means a fledgling company… not even two decades old yet. But they are the best-selling luxury brand here, and the LF concepts offer a lot of promise for Lexus’ future.

By the way, in terms of originality in appearance which you all seem to find such importance in, each BMW and MB i’ve owned looked just like it’s predecessor… nothing special or exciting. Every BMW or MB you’ll see will look like another car in the current and previous lineups… talk about unoriginality and lack of personality. At least Lexus has the balls to create unique concepts like its LF lineup.

man lexus is koo if you got the money hey buy it and if you dont dont..If you like the car go get it and if you dont dont..Is sense cuzzo..A car is a car you pay alot you get the respect you feel me?probably the engine going to last longer than a bmw(japanese engine)and is probably going to have alot of car parts for it(turbo,body kits,Etc) well let see whats going to happen $170000 if you aint tripin about the money get it and don’t hate…

ok I agree 1700000 is over priced but some of these comments are just retarded
“Their LS still doesn’t compare to BMW’s 7-series and Mercedes’ S-Class in luxury content or feel, much less appearance” “And they’re not going to be taken as seriously until they improve their design, inside and out.” Outside Appearance I agree 100% but inside bro u cannot be serious. I’ve been in the Ls460, 7 series and the s class mercedes. As far as interior comfort and electronic automotive technology. Lexus destroys Mercedes and BMW hands down. LS460 uses softer higher quality leather and name one S class or 750 that has Ottoman messaging fingers in the REAR seats and 2 Flip down tv screens standard. and there is still no bmw or benz that can park it self. No car short of a maybach offers that type of luxury and reliability in the price range of an LS460. Performance the Germans got that locked no doubt but interior luxury and electronics… what country makes pretty much all the nintendos, playstation 3’s and flat screen tv’s hint not the germans bro.