yeah! i live in vancouver and they just released a similar countdown clock outside the downtown art gallery for the olympics in 2010! loving the made in canada, no question with a sticker like that. congrats on a womanizing ride. dang, those headlights rival a bmw’s! and i love beemers.

sweet countdown!

Sorry, but nothing about this thing rivals a BMW except its unrefined power.

Go Chrysler Go!

Way too much hype for a rehashed 70’s design. Chrysler is clearly desparate for positive buzz, even if it’s artificailly created.

356 days huh… did they shorten the year or something?

Wait, that’s not to say that BMWs are unrefined.

Also, DCX said before that it would be a 2008 Charger. Guess not, and I guess Chevy is right on par (no pun intended).

Damn it, I can’t think straight. Challenger, not Charger.

I agree, Vroom.

i think its really a countdown to bankruptcy, they just wanted to jazz it up a little.

BAMF: 356 is a dyslexic year I guess. LOL

356 days… The countdown started 9 days before the picture was taken, or 12 months was just an estimation. either way… can’t wait I’m getting sick of seeing only Mustangs. Still want a Camaro more.

Won’t Chrysler be an orphan by then? A broke orphan no less. They should have introduced this by now, it’s been a long time considering they are not even developing a chassis or powertrain for it…same goes for GM & the Camaro. Too little, too late IMO. I do think it will be a nice ride, but only if it’s priced the same as a Mustang model for model.

BTW…it’s 356 days to the SHOW…just for those whose reading comprehension is a little below their grade level…

I don’t know.. I think I rather see 1000 Mustangs than 500 Mustangs and 500 Challengers if the Challenger looks much like the concept. I’m not a big Mustang fan, but the Challenger concept harps back to the original far too much; it’s almost a carbon copy (again, no pun intended). Honestly, I think the Camaro puts both vehicles’ designs to shame, but I’ve always been a huge Camaro fan.

ahahah calling the challeneger too much of a copy then praising the camaro?

Talk about a joke lmao..

I never get tired of seeing stangs. They just look practically perfect. They can keep the camaro I’ll take a trans am or the challenger.

So far away.

Much more attractive than the Charger, though I still prefer the Camaro.

I like the face/body of the Mustang GT and GT500, but think the rear is a little tired and worn.

The Camaro isn’t a carbon copy of the original. Compare all four side by side: first gen Camaro, Camaro concept, ’70s Challenger, and Challenger concept. You’ll see what I mean. Camaro looks much more modern than the Challenger; the only modern pieces of the Challenger I see are the headlights (not even sure if those are production ready anyway) and interior. Even the damn engine has the same name!

Go buy yourself a sense of humor golf4me.

The camaro has more of a distinct look, it has the same over all shape reminiscent to the first generation, but its distinctively different. The Chrysler took the other approach with the challenger, they just remade the old car. Probably why so many people love it, it looks nearly exactly like the old one! I have to give GM more props for the camaro being I think more effort went into it. I like the challenger though. Visuals are all a matter of opinion, and mine is the camaro is better.

The Camaro is a much better “retro”. It’s a modern design with retro cues. Great looking car. The Challenger is cleaned up ‘71 model, nothing more. Same thing Ford did with the GT. I’m not saying they’re not good looking cars, they’re just design cop-outs.

Thank you, bb and vroom. That’s exactly how I feel.

The pivotal issue that makes the Challenger the winner of the Challenger Vs Camaro question is the heritage of the Camaro. The Camaro has always been the holy grail of the dirtiest, sorriest, stupidest, mullet wearing white trash rednecks that you can find in your local trailer park. If those are the people you feel comfortable with, and you can give up the meth, and hold down a job long enough…you might actually be able to afford a new Camaro once they are 12 years old. The Challenger is gonna enter the market without all that enourmously negative legacy attached to the name.

THIS IS LLN, ANYBODY CONSIDER HAVALIDITY OF THIS ARTICLE. LOUIS VITON DIDNT BUY AUSTIN AS REPORTED,PORSCHE DENIES 28000 PER VEHICLE, SO MABEY TOMORROW THIS COULD BE RETRACTED. WHATS WRONG WITH A JOINT VENTURE? MATRIX/VIBE

Related to that, check out the Camaro song…its priceless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdegQmtgFSM

CRAP WRONG THREAD THIS WAS MEANT FOR CHRYSLER/GM RELATIONSHIP

I really don’t think you can deem the Challenger nor the Camaro a winner of anything until each are in a dealership. However, looking at the Camaro and saying it’s only going to be a good car for “trailer trash” people is like (damn, can’t think of a good metaphor right now) saying classy people will never eat a hamburger simply because shrimp and steak are “more their style.”

lol, where did this stigma that everyone who drives a camaro has to be a redneck with a mullet or anyone that dives a vette has to be some old guy with slicked back hair come from? I’m 25, came from the suburbs, hate country music, i have spiky hair, no tattoos etc. I’m in no way shape or form what you would consider a hillbilly, yet I have a camaro, and would own another one. I have yet to meet someone that fits your description driving a camaro Madcapp, though I have seen a guy in a Escort that looks like that and plenty in some old pick ups!

I guess its true that movies do influence peoples perceptions. Joe Dirt, yet there wasn’t a camaro in it.

bb_454, I completely agree. I’m 19, go to a great college, have a full-time co-op job making more than most people I know my age, and own a Camaro. Oh, and I live in a regular suburban community, with regular suburban parents, and I dress casually like many other people. No mullet for me, and I love the Camaro. I can’t wait to be able to put down a downpayment on my second new Chevy.

get in line boys!

all three (stang, camaro, challenger) are very nice and i couldnt say which is best. but the challenger wins my vote.

lol – Made in Canada!!!

Camaro and Challenger are hard to compare when you think of it. Performance-wise, there’s going to be a big rivalry between these 2 cars. But the style of them is actually incredibly different. People set on the classic look will go with the Challenger. Camaro is more a meld of retro influences and modern design. Two different tastes. I would drive both, perhaps the Camaro more than the Challenger.

It’s too bad the rest of the new vehicles from Dodge/Chrysler are so bland.

Not that Canada is bad but it seemed like Dodge was trying to return to its good ole American roots and we get a picture like this. Just slightly amusing to me.

I was wondering what happened with the Challenger, I hadn’t heard anything about it lately… They sure are taking a long ass time to get this thing out and ready…ANOTHER F&*#ING YEAR???

I still like it a lot, but I think they previewed it too early…I hope people aren’t tired of it by the time it comes out…

I bet Dodge is going to slap on the fugly crosshair grill on the production version that they are putting on all their cars like the stratus/caliber/etc.

Whoo the countdown when Mercedes drops Chrysler!!

NOS2006 and Vroom,

Who cares if it looks like the old Challenger… It’s the new Challenger, it’s supposed to look similar… look at the porsche 911…

Hopefully this helps out Chrysler’s financial situation, I know I’ll be buying one when it comes out…

I just can’t come to the conclusion that the Challenger will be nice. I mean, we’ve all seen the LX cars and how cheap (and heavy) they are, along with the terrible styling (inside and out) of all the new Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler vehicles over the last two years. I just can’t find it in me to have high hopes for the Challenger, though I do hope Dodge has it in them to produce a hit..

Yeah, the Porsche 911 looks the same as it always has: that’s a pretty good reason for why I’d never buy one if I had the money to. I just like evolution, I guess..

I think the Camaro and the Challenger are both very good looking cars. I have a personal preference for the Camaro, but thats just me. The thing that sets the two apart is going to be their sticker prices. I have a feeling the Challenger being an LX car will be placed a little further up market than the Camaro, and I know GM is going to try to keep the sticker down to compete directly with the Mustang. There is no way a Challenger with a Hemi is going to stick for anything less than $30k.

Classic American muscle…Made in Canada

i really dont have any preferance between the three muscle comebacks, each of their stylings is so completely different, yet all tasteful echos of the past, that id be more than happy with any of them.. i really cant decide. I guess id take the camaro, you know, with its 100,000mi warranty and all

For those of you complaining about the Challenger being too much like the old one as opposed to an evolved retro design. Let’s not forget that this is a low volume special edition, where as the Camaro is being built to compete with the Mustang. Based on that information I would say that the Challenger will probably be more expensive too. This is kind of inbetween the Silver Slugger (http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0504phr_1967_ford_mustang_gt_r_code/) and the new retro vehicles.

zerotosixty, is right. Sticker prices and production quantity.

NOS2006 & bb.454, think about how i feel im barley 32, i have long hair past my ass, a goatee past my chest, all scared up from fighting my way out of the ghetto (my parents were drug addits on welfare) listen to deathmetal/grindcore and vote republican( for now until the democrats stop trying to take my guns)I in no way shape of form fit the cadillac crowd, but its stereotype says i should be 65 peeking over the steering wheel driving 35mph in the fast lane. i really really do love the new camaro with a passion, the lines are going to be the selling point for me, the challenger is definately a nice car but there is something about it that looks like it still could be sold in the 70`s. the camaro at least looks like a futuristic rendition of a classic whereas the challenger just looks like a classic.

seriously…suck on that detroit! even the canucks have you beat!

This car is way better looking then the camaro. Remember the fugly bright orange(Which is also the colour of the challlenger concept) convertible at detroit which looked like someone puked on the floor. Anycar can look good in silver hell even the Chrysler Airflite. the challeneger will look beautiful in silver and prity much any colour.

Hope the mustang beats the camaro back to its death

p.s. the camaro will be designed in australia. The HOLDEN sorry Pontiac G8 weigh over two tons which is way more then the dodge Charger or any LX car. So don’t be surprised if you hear that the challenger is lighter then the Camaro.

Whoopadi-doo ! Still another Year. It’ll be outdated before it even hits the market, just like the Camero.

The Mustang didn’t beat the Camaro to its death, Chevrolet did. You’re just an idiot.

Hope the mustang beats the camaro back to its death

Comment by Stuart, posted on February15 at 6:13 pm

i hope the pony wars start all over again so we can drive something that dont need to be revved to a million rpm just to get moving. does anybody remember torque? i want to see mustangs,camaros,challengers and chargers laying smokey burnouts all over town.i want a car that actually slows down with a fury when my foot is lifted off the gas, i want to mash the gas pedal and just hold on while the car rumbles and white smoke bellows from the fender wells. i dream of a world where a man can drive what he wants free of intolerance and hatred.

OMFG t0YOOOOT4 ROXXORZ!!11!1!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!1!

homeboy, you’re as bad as GMNumberOneFan.

Brendino…

Designed in the USA, and just ASSEMBLED in Canada… you’re lucky we let you guys do our dirty work

man canada sucks y are we building two great american cars “camaro, challenger” in such a crappy country! its so sad!!!!!!!!

Stuart, you’re a moron. The G8 is a completely different car.

@Chauncy – touche.

yes i agree stuart is pretty stupid!

vroom…if there were anything funny about the previous rants about the day “error”, then I wouldn’t have touched it. Those ‘tards were serious!! (maybe not, but it sure reads that way)

Maybe a Canadian year is only 356 days due to the exchange rate. Or, maybe 9 days lost to a drunken stupor! There. Ha Ha.

@Chauncy – Okay, it was designed in America, but what’s with this Canada doing our dirty work stuff?? Does that mean we’re doing Toyota’s drity work?

@chevy490 – why the pointless inflammatory posts?

It sounds like you both need Free Hugs to me.

365 days…not 356…

lotusfire…

yeah, we do a lot of dirty work for Toyota… Honda and Nissan as well… and any other maker that’s designed somewhere else but has manufacturing plants here… If we didn’t design it, then we’re just turning the wrenches to put it together…

But the difference is we aren’t trying to take credit for the cars we produce here… Where as those damn canadians are trying to take credit for the challenger…eh

“made in canada” ithink thats a great way to get usa buyers intrested

Does it come with an 8-track tape player too?

Its a great car (I’d love to drive one where no-one could see,) but why are they building it in Canada? Despite the protests from the loyal most of us would accept that the US manufacturers products are not the equal of their Japanese-based competition. Presumably national pride is one reason why they still sell as many as they do.

It seems a really bad move to give foreign workers the job of building a halo model while the Japanese competition employ more and more Americans and emphasise that decision by running in American racing series.

Honestly, I like the looks of the upcoming Dodge Challenger much better than I like the upcoming Camaro.

But it’ll be the quality of the interior, performance, and handling that’ll do the final persuading.

cool! id like one. oh and by the way, it looks like all of DCX’s decent cars are made in Brampton.

“Made in Canada” I bet that is not going to help them sell cars in the US

I think when the dust settles the mustang will still be king. This car is really nice but it’ll be too expensive and probably handle like complete crap. It has no chance to beat the mustang in sales which is why its not even trying. The Camaro will handle great thanks to the Australian platform, and have plenty of power, but price will be an issue. They’ll have the bragging rights but in the end it doesnt matter if people cant afford it.

I think Ford nailed it with the mustang design. Its gonna be hard to take the crown from them. Its at a price/performance/looks sweet spot. A compromise between all 3.

Hey guys, only 14 months until the first Challenger transmission failure.

Would you prefer it to be made in Mexico? Most Canadian assembly plants for all manufacturers rate equal to or above their counterparts elsewhere, including Honda and Toyota. The Brampton plant all ready makes the 300, etc. With ther Challenger being on the same platform, it makes perfect sense to use that line.

Made in Canada because Americans can’t assemble ****.

Oh, and for all of you mental giants, did it occur to you that the release date is 356 days from the date of the announcement? And perhaps chrysler chose to build the Challenger in Canada because most American assembly plant workers couldn’t find their ass with both hands, let alone actually build a car.

buenos – gosh thanks for pointing what 12 others already have. you’re really smart. and your comment about american workers not being able to assemble cars goes even further to prove how ignorant and dumb you really are. way to go dude!

Vroom, my apologies for the rant, but this ultra-nationalist crap bugs the hell out of me. It is the NORTH american auto industry after all.

I don’t see the big deal with it being built in Canada, a lot of our products are built there. The plant where the Impala/MC etc. are built is always ranked #1 or at least somewhere near the top. So its true, its Built in Canada, just not designed or engineered, unless your a Texan, than apparently anything above the Red River is Canada. Besides the domestic manufactures for as many plants as they have closed still have far more operating inside the US than anywhere else. Be happy its being built by quality workers.

I agree the nationalist stuff does go too far some times. This is a free-market economy after all and I’m sure Chrysler has good reasons for assembling in Canada, whether it be cost, quality or both. And with parts and supplies coming mostly from overseas, there really is no such thing as an Amrican car anyway. Best of all, if the Challenger tanks, we’ll just BLAME CANADA (South Park).

And let’s remember, the new Camaro will also be built in Canada, as was the old Camaro and Firebird.

who cares if its built in america jr…..oh sorry canada, the profits go to detroit and some canadian family can afford some moose and molson.

365 days not 356
the countdown is a great idea to keep people interested in the car, Chevy and the Camaro could learn from this and release it earlier

I’m gonna’ get one! I like “unrefined power”. I like the retro look. The 425 hp with a real amount of TORQUE will be great as well. A manual tranny is just icing on the cake.

They’d have to be idiots not to offer this car with a manual. If they can keep the interior from looking absolutely disgusting, and make it a classy type of retro like the Camaro, it’d be a toss-up which one I’d prefer.

WOW!! You would think that somebody would have had the good sense to pull the plug on this orange joke by now but I guess not. Guess we’ll see if this is the car that gets the black ink flowing for them. My bet is that it won’t!

The brits and aussies are there too. what bobzooki said was stupid but youre just as bad. bobzooki doesnt realize he is already driving a car from canada or mexico, he is too ignorant and his head is so far up his ass he cant see straight.

Could be built in Taiwan for all I care. I just know I want one. Can’t believe how many panties are in twists over this car, or where it’s built. Some here need to un-plug from the PC and go get outside from time to time.

DeanTJ, do me a personal favor and step in front of a speeding bus, will ya? The planet will be a better place for it. Or atleast this site would be. May your armpits be infested with the fleas of a thousand camels.

Peace.