Comments on: Rather than kill brands, GM will axe models http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:47:28 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: 1c3d0g http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-97081 1c3d0g Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:25:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-97081 Thing2: yeah, that's about right. IMHO, Buick has no place in this world. Chevrolet is pushing them up and Cadillac is smacking them back down...their space is no longer there. Sorry, grandpa, but like your cherised Oldsmobile, it's time to meet your creator... Thing2: yeah, that’s about right. IMHO, Buick has no place in this world. Chevrolet is pushing them up and Cadillac is smacking them back down…their space is no longer there.

Sorry, grandpa, but like your cherised Oldsmobile, it’s time to meet your creator…

]]> By: Ins knee oder am arsch? http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-96170 Ins knee oder am arsch? Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:00:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-96170 OMG the chief designer at GM sports a double breasted suit. Whatever you think of Chris Bangle's designs, he at least looks like he's in touch with whats happening in the modern world OMG the chief designer at GM sports a double breasted suit. Whatever you think of Chris Bangle’s designs, he at least looks like he’s in touch with whats happening in the modern world

]]> By: Zan http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-96140 Zan Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:49:52 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-96140 If you don't count the corvette roofs ripping off. I am not sure I see the H2 as some big seller. I see alot more H3's then 2's. Personaly I dont care for a large brick with wheels. If you don’t count the corvette roofs ripping off. I am not sure I see the H2 as some big seller. I see alot more H3’s then 2’s. Personaly I dont care for a large brick with wheels.

]]> By: Ins knee oder am arsch? http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-96126 Ins knee oder am arsch? Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:47:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-96126 #32 Those are the best? oh dear oh dear that says it all. #32 Those are the best? oh dear oh dear that says it all.

]]> By: U-dub http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-96083 U-dub Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:43:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-96083 Corvette and H2 are the best thing that GM has goin... Corvette and H2 are the best thing that GM has goin…

]]> By: tradesman's entrance http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-95279 tradesman's entrance Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:07:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-95279 Buick should have gone before Oldsmobile. Al, i enjoyed our meet at Buttonwillow with Bushy and that tranny Condi. We should do it again sometime. Buick should have gone before Oldsmobile.
Al, i enjoyed our meet at Buttonwillow with Bushy and that tranny Condi. We should do it again sometime.

]]> By: Niels http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-94000 Niels Wed, 07 Jun 2006 04:01:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-94000 They should have come to this conclusion before they axed Oldsmobile. Regardless of its image at the time, it was America's oldest carmaker. Personally, I liked the newer Aurora and Intrigue. The Alero looked alright, and I long after one of the last 500 made. They should have come to this conclusion before they axed Oldsmobile. Regardless of its image at the time, it was America’s oldest carmaker. Personally, I liked the newer Aurora and Intrigue. The Alero looked alright, and I long after one of the last 500 made.

]]> By: RAS http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93893 RAS Wed, 07 Jun 2006 03:11:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93893 Dear Al, What, that's it? Giving up already? That's disappointing, I thought you had a little more fight in you. What happenned to all your barking, dawg? Seriously though, you clearly suffer from an inferiority complex, evidenced by your defensive reaction to posts that are not directed at you. You clearly have nothing worthwhile to post, and that pisses you no end. Get some help. Unlike my advice to the fellow above, which was a joke, I think you may be a bonafide candidate for psychiatric treatment. By the way, if you can't do better than your last post (on this thread, at least) I'm afraid I won't find you amusing enough and I'll simply ignore you. So, please, don't repost my own words, that's just lazy. Be creative. Thanks for the entertainment so far, sweetcheeks. It's been fun. Sincerely, The Source Of Your Sad Frustration. Dear Al,

What, that’s it? Giving up already? That’s disappointing, I thought you had a little more fight in you. What happenned to all your barking, dawg?

Seriously though, you clearly suffer from an inferiority complex, evidenced by your defensive reaction to posts that are not directed at you. You clearly have nothing worthwhile to post, and that pisses you no end. Get some help. Unlike my advice to the fellow above, which was a joke, I think you may be a bonafide candidate for psychiatric treatment.

By the way, if you can’t do better than your last post (on this thread, at least) I’m afraid I won’t find you amusing enough and I’ll simply ignore you. So, please, don’t repost my own words, that’s just lazy. Be creative.

Thanks for the entertainment so far, sweetcheeks. It’s been fun.

Sincerely,
The Source Of Your Sad Frustration.

]]> By: GMbottomofthebarrelalwayswillB http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93884 GMbottomofthebarrelalwayswillB Wed, 07 Jun 2006 02:59:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93884 Only axe the models that have no counterparts. That way when all is said and done, every brand can be left with their own Trailblazer knockoff, minivan copy, GMT900 SUV and pickup truck, Lambda and W body. Oh and keep the Vette, so that GM can claim they put effort into something... Only axe the models that have no counterparts. That way when all is said and done, every brand can be left with their own Trailblazer knockoff, minivan copy, GMT900 SUV and pickup truck, Lambda and W body.

Oh and keep the Vette, so that GM can claim they put effort into something…

]]> By: Al Bundy http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93839 Al Bundy Wed, 07 Jun 2006 02:28:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93839 Fascinating ! I feel so challenged..... Fascinating ! I feel so challenged…..

]]> By: RAS http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93758 RAS Wed, 07 Jun 2006 02:19:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93758 Poor little Al, he owns a redneck-mobile and is a tad sensitive on issues regarding GM. Furthermore, he's so angry now that his comebacks no longer make sense. It must be all that moonshine sloshing in his head. Poor little Al, he owns a redneck-mobile and is a tad sensitive on issues regarding GM. Furthermore, he’s so angry now that his comebacks no longer make sense. It must be all that moonshine sloshing in his head.

]]> By: GM#1andalwayswillbe! http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93725 GM#1andalwayswillbe! Wed, 07 Jun 2006 02:11:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93725 Down with brand reengineering! Comment by S P, posted on June6 at 5:42 pm This is definately a strategy that should be adopted by Ford as it badge re-engineers everything from the Blue Oval Division into Mercury's and Lincoln's. FoMoCo is the current Badge Engineered King of the World ! Down with brand reengineering!

Comment by S P, posted on June6 at 5:42 pm

This is definately a strategy that should be adopted by Ford as it badge re-engineers everything from the Blue Oval Division into Mercury’s and Lincoln’s. FoMoCo is the current Badge Engineered King of the World !

]]> By: Al Bundy http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93700 Al Bundy Wed, 07 Jun 2006 02:06:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93700 If intellectual is what you write in that last post RAS, I have no worries at all ! If intellectual is what you write in that last post RAS, I have no worries at all !

]]> By: Jordan http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93690 Jordan Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:58:00 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93690 You guys make this far too personal. RAS, I agree that separating the brands from each other would be a good move. It wouldn't be cost effective at first, but in the long run it would pay off with better, re-established brands. You guys make this far too personal.

RAS, I agree that separating the brands from each other would be a good move. It wouldn’t be cost effective at first, but in the long run it would pay off with better, re-established brands.

]]> By: RAS http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93683 RAS Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:53:52 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93683 My dear Al, I see you're still reeling from our last encounter on LLN. How are you doing sweetcheeks? Are you still hurting from having your ass handed to you by half a dozen LLN posters? I would have thought you were too busy sexing up your close relatives to post so soon, but I guess along with a lack of intelligence comes a taste for punishment from your intellectual superiors. Say, what is the redneck community's stance on GM's troubles these days? My dear Al,

I see you’re still reeling from our last encounter on LLN. How are you doing sweetcheeks? Are you still hurting from having your ass handed to you by half a dozen LLN posters? I would have thought you were too busy sexing up your close relatives to post so soon, but I guess along with a lack of intelligence comes a taste for punishment from your intellectual superiors.

Say, what is the redneck community’s stance on GM’s troubles these days?

]]> By: Al Bundy http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93616 Al Bundy Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:42:43 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93616 You're right RAS ! The bullshit spews from you more than anybody else..... You’re right RAS ! The bull**** spews from you more than anybody else…..

]]> By: RAS http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93586 RAS Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:31:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93586 As for GM, I think they should drop not only several models, but also their entire management lineup. Subsequently, they should hire all of the brilliant minds that regularly post on LLN and let them run the show. It couldn't possibly be any worse. I mean, it seems that the most important requirement to work at GM is a high grasp of the fine art of bullshit, and there's plenty of that in these pages. As for GM, I think they should drop not only several models, but also their entire management lineup. Subsequently, they should hire all of the brilliant minds that regularly post on LLN and let them run the show. It couldn’t possibly be any worse. I mean, it seems that the most important requirement to work at GM is a high grasp of the fine art of bull****, and there’s plenty of that in these pages.

]]> By: RAS http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93574 RAS Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:23:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93574 typical GM lover, You're in dire need of psychiatric assistance, I fear that you're delusional. "It gets a lot of looks on my street." Indeed, but not for the reasons you think. I believe extended ownership of the vehicle known as Asstech has diminished your cognitive abilities, thus rendering your scale of values impervious to external stimuli. In other words, you're confusing mediocrity with quality, and evidence to the contrary simply does not register in your brain. Please, have someone drive you to your nearest shrink and just say no to the Asstech. typical GM lover,

You’re in dire need of psychiatric assistance, I fear that you’re delusional. “It gets a lot of looks on my street.” Indeed, but not for the reasons you think. I believe extended ownership of the vehicle known as Asstech has diminished your cognitive abilities, thus rendering your scale of values impervious to external stimuli. In other words, you’re confusing mediocrity with quality, and evidence to the contrary simply does not register in your brain. Please, have someone drive you to your nearest shrink and just say no to the Asstech.

]]> By: Import Fan http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93514 Import Fan Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:56:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93514 What GM needs now is a radical strategy to retake the leadership position in their industry. I say get rid of ALL their brand names and come up with a new one. Their brands are now trash and they need to be jettisoned. For a comparison, look at what Valu-Jet did after their devastating crash in the Florida everglades: they renamed their company AIRTRAN and now they are a very successful airline. -I say GM drop all brands and create a new brand called "Epsilon" or something like that, with a neat looking "E" as the symbol. -Also, completly change the interior lighting to a purple or blue or deep orange and have it become their signature It's going to take bold moves (sorry Ford) to survive as a viable brand. I don't see this happening and when GM fails it will be another blow to American manufacturing. What GM needs now is a radical strategy to retake the leadership position in their industry. I say get rid of ALL their brand names and come up with a new one. Their brands are now trash and they need to be jettisoned. For a comparison, look at what Valu-Jet did after their devastating crash in the Florida everglades: they renamed their company AIRTRAN and now they are a very successful airline.

-I say GM drop all brands and create a new brand called “Epsilon” or something like that, with a neat looking “E” as the symbol.
-Also, completly change the interior lighting to a purple or blue or deep orange and have it become their signature

It’s going to take bold moves (sorry Ford) to survive as a viable brand. I don’t see this happening and when GM fails it will be another blow to American manufacturing.

]]> By: Jordan http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93405 Jordan Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:46:32 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93405 Lead the way to hell? Well, that's comforting. :) Lead the way to hell?

Well, that’s comforting. :)

]]> By: typical GM lover http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93380 typical GM lover Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:39:15 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93380 Come on #15, I own an Aztek and it's given me no problems. It runs good. It gets a lot of looks on my street. All you GM-haters out there need to get with it. GM is doing just fine. They've been innovating for years and will continue to lead the way. Come on #15, I own an Aztek and it’s given me no problems. It runs good. It gets a lot of looks on my street. All you GM-haters out there need to get with it. GM is doing just fine. They’ve been innovating for years and will continue to lead the way.

]]> By: Jordan http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93186 Jordan Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:56:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93186 I think you'd fit in well at GM. I think you’d fit in well at GM.

]]> By: Madcapp http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93114 Madcapp Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:49:31 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93114 Go retro, bring out a new Pontiac Aztek. Go retro, bring out a new Pontiac Aztek.

]]> By: Jordan http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93072 Jordan Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:46:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93072 The Lucerne doesn't look that bad, actually. The Lacrosse on the otherhand, looks horid. Already, I have seen my share of Lacrosses and Lucernes with mock tops. Seriously, who the hell wants a mock top in 2006? Old people. Cadillacs going for Mercedes, BMW, etc. Buick needs to shoot for Lexus, not Lincoln. The Lucerne doesn’t look that bad, actually. The Lacrosse on the otherhand, looks horid. Already, I have seen my share of Lacrosses and Lucernes with mock tops. Seriously, who the hell wants a mock top in 2006?

Old people. Cadillacs going for Mercedes, BMW, etc.

Buick needs to shoot for Lexus, not Lincoln.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-93013 Ryan Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:38:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-93013 While i cannot see shit happening for Buick or Saab in the future, i do see Pontiac taking a turn for the good. The solstice was a ray of sunshine on the brand, and the recent announcement of all RWD for the future spread the clouds farther apart. GM has no idea on where Saab and Buick sit. They just know they do sit. Buick is like Mercury. But the main difference between the two is that the newest Mercurys actually look different, while the Buicks continue to look exactly the same, and on top of that only old people want them. Give me a Buick Roadmaster with a Northstar V8 in it, and that ray of sunshine may open up for Buick as well, otherwise, just axe the piece of shit. I would rather drive an Aztek than a Rendezvous, and GM already has Cadillac pushing out great luxury products. Kill Buick, and give us a Cadillac priced a few thousand under the CTS, say $23k, with FLUENT cadillac styling, not some bullshit rebadge, and GM will be in better shape, with far less dead weight. While i cannot see **** happening for Buick or Saab in the future, i do see Pontiac taking a turn for the good. The solstice was a ray of sunshine on the brand, and the recent announcement of all RWD for the future spread the clouds farther apart. GM has no idea on where Saab and Buick sit. They just know they do sit. Buick is like Mercury. But the main difference between the two is that the newest Mercurys actually look different, while the Buicks continue to look exactly the same, and on top of that only old people want them. Give me a Buick Roadmaster with a Northstar V8 in it, and that ray of sunshine may open up for Buick as well, otherwise, just axe the piece of ****. I would rather drive an Aztek than a Rendezvous, and GM already has Cadillac pushing out great luxury products. Kill Buick, and give us a Cadillac priced a few thousand under the CTS, say $23k, with FLUENT cadillac styling, not some bull**** rebadge, and GM will be in better shape, with far less dead weight.

]]> By: Richard K. http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-92966 Richard K. Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:24:16 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-92966 I'm all for Rear wheel drive V-8 power and Muscle Car extremes (2 door preferably) Go GTO i'd also buy a Rear drive G6 GXP I'm a new Pontiac fan but still a long time Chevy guy I’m all for Rear wheel drive V-8 power and Muscle Car extremes (2 door preferably) Go GTO i’d also buy a Rear drive G6 GXP I’m a new Pontiac fan but still a long time Chevy guy

]]> By: Jordan http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-92960 Jordan Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:21:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-92960 Buick should take the Enclave, but drop both the Rendezvous and the Rainier in the process. In order for Buick to be the American Lexus, (funny how that works) they need some kind of SUV to compete with the RX. They also need a legit flagship (the new RWD sedan)and a coupe. Maybe something to compete with the IS? The Lacrosse doesnt fit the bill, thats for sure. Buick needs a lot of help, if they ever want to make the brand credible again. A lot. Buick should take the Enclave, but drop both the Rendezvous and the Rainier in the process. In order for Buick to be the American Lexus, (funny how that works) they need some kind of SUV to compete with the RX. They also need a legit flagship (the new RWD sedan)and a coupe. Maybe something to compete with the IS? The Lacrosse doesnt fit the bill, thats for sure.

Buick needs a lot of help, if they ever want to make the brand credible again. A lot.

]]> By: chris http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-92739 chris Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:55:52 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-92739 Anon, how about Buick lacrosse (eps2) Lucerne rwd? 2 seater convertible(not solstice) ?? Anon, how about Buick
lacrosse (eps2)
Lucerne rwd?
2 seater convertible(not solstice)
??

]]> By: JIBBA http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-92738 JIBBA Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:55:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-92738 I'D RATHER RIDE A BUS THAN ROLL IN A FUGLY BUICK, PONTIAC OR SATURN. I’D RATHER RIDE A BUS THAN ROLL IN A FUGLY BUICK, PONTIAC OR SATURN.

]]> By: Thing2 http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-92737 Thing2 Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:54:42 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-92737 There is just too many brands for buyers to keep track of that are the same with just different names. Buick isn't worth keeping, with the stigma of being a low quality old person's car, ie undesirable and something to avoid buyig, people won't buy even if good cars come out. The process to fix the image would be an expense better spent on an overhaul to focusing on all the other brands. The idea of Buick no longer addresses the niche it was intended for upon its conception. Back in the 60s, both Ford and GM had three levels of luxury in thier brand lineups. At Ford it was Ford/Mercury/Lincoln. At GM it was GM/Buick/Caddilac. As Lincoln lost its lustre and isn't that much of a step above Mercury as it once had been, that setup for Ford hasn't made sense in years. As Buick's brand image fell, and Caddillac too lost the aurora it had in those days and fell down a coupld of notches. For a while they too were overlapping, until Caddillac was reborn. But what has happened is that the GM and Chevy brands have inched upmarket and the pricing of GM and Chevy cars comprable to a Buick is too close. There is just too many brands for buyers to keep track of that are the same with just different names. Buick isn’t worth keeping, with the stigma of being a low quality old person’s car, ie undesirable and something to avoid buyig, people won’t buy even if good cars come out. The process to fix the image would be an expense better spent on an overhaul to focusing on all the other brands. The idea of Buick no longer addresses the niche it was intended for upon its conception. Back in the 60s, both Ford and GM had three levels of luxury in thier brand lineups. At Ford it was Ford/Mercury/Lincoln. At GM it was GM/Buick/Caddilac. As Lincoln lost its lustre and isn’t that much of a step above Mercury as it once had been, that setup for Ford hasn’t made sense in years. As Buick’s brand image fell, and Caddillac too lost the aurora it had in those days and fell down a coupld of notches. For a while they too were overlapping, until Caddillac was reborn. But what has happened is that the GM and Chevy brands have inched upmarket and the pricing of GM and Chevy cars comprable to a Buick is too close.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-92729 Anonymous Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:51:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-92729 A new GTO is in the works for 08-09 with it's sedan variant called G8. The GTO will just be a 2 coupe version of the G8, both which will be on the RWD and on the Zeta platform. A new GTO is in the works for 08-09 with it’s sedan variant called G8. The GTO will just be a 2 coupe version of the G8, both which will be on the RWD and on the Zeta platform.

]]> By: chris http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-92724 chris Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:50:32 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-92724 Sounds good Jordan but Buick should lose the Enclave and let its dealer mate GMC take it. Let Buick be cars. Lamda is about twice as big as Equinox. No comparison. Sounds good Jordan but Buick should lose the Enclave and let its dealer mate GMC take it. Let Buick be cars.

Lamda is about twice as big as Equinox. No comparison.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-92723 Anonymous Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:50:12 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-92723 Here is the lineup for Pontiac around 09-10 Solstice G5 G6 G8 GTO Here is the lineup for Pontiac around 09-10

Solstice
G5
G6
G8
GTO

]]> By: Jordan http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-92523 Jordan Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:04:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-92523 That's not going to fix the problem that they have of too many brands under one roof. Buick, they already nixed the Regal/Century, and the LeSabre/Park Avenue, but gains the Enclave, Lucerne, and Lacrosse. What's there to nix? The Rendezvous? The Rainier? Terraza? If anything, the Terraza pretty much gone. Seriously, who thought a Buick minivan would be a good idea in 2005, I mean seriously. Next would be the Rainier. Still, this doesnt leave Buick with a lot, and they still have the old people smell to them. If anything, Buick needs more cars, and to be further away from the rest of the General, kinda like Cadillac Pontiac nixed the Aztec, Bonneville, and the Grand Am. That leaves them with the G6, Grand Prix, Vibe, Torrent, Solstice, SV6, GTO, and the new G5, which is a rebadged Colbalt. As with the Terraza, I'm sure the SV6 isn't long for this world, and the GTO is gone after this year. The only other vehicle that's expendable is the Vibe. Saab just needs less GM influence. The last thing Saab needs is GM SUV's, not matter how good they are. That's just campy. Saab does need a highend sports car though. Saturn is doing well with the Opel mixture. It's nice to have a non-US influence on some GM cars. Saturn and Buick should really be the only ones who get the Lambda crossovers. Chevy has the Equinox. which is based on the Theta? platform. GMC, eh, it's iffy. That’s not going to fix the problem that they have of too many brands under one roof.

Buick, they already nixed the Regal/Century, and the LeSabre/Park Avenue, but gains the Enclave, Lucerne, and Lacrosse. What’s there to nix? The Rendezvous? The Rainier? Terraza? If anything, the Terraza pretty much gone. Seriously, who thought a Buick minivan would be a good idea in 2005, I mean seriously. Next would be the Rainier. Still, this doesnt leave Buick with a lot, and they still have the old people smell to them. If anything, Buick needs more cars, and to be further away from the rest of the General, kinda like Cadillac

Pontiac nixed the Aztec, Bonneville, and the Grand Am.
That leaves them with the G6, Grand Prix, Vibe, Torrent, Solstice, SV6, GTO, and the new G5, which is a rebadged Colbalt. As with the Terraza, I’m sure the SV6 isn’t long for this world, and the GTO is gone after this year. The only other vehicle that’s expendable is the Vibe.

Saab just needs less GM influence. The last thing Saab needs is GM SUV’s, not matter how good they are. That’s just campy. Saab does need a highend sports car though.

Saturn is doing well with the Opel mixture. It’s nice to have a non-US influence on some GM cars.

Saturn and Buick should really be the only ones who get the Lambda crossovers. Chevy has the Equinox. which is based on the Theta? platform. GMC, eh, it’s iffy.

]]> By: S P http://www.leftlanenews.com/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models.html/comment-page-1#comment-92349 S P Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:42:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/06/rather-than-kill-brands-gm-will-axe-models/#comment-92349 Down with brand reengineering! Down with brand reengineering!

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