I don’t want Nissan to ruin itself by joining with EITHER Ford or GM

Perhaps it’s for the best that talks didn’t go through with GM. Ford has a broader international appeal with Mazda, Rover, Volvo etc. so maybe they could work something out with Nissan/Renault.

Too late LamborghiniZ–Ford and Nissan have precedent for a partnership. Let me remind you of the 1993-2002 Mercury Villager minivan, the twin of the Nissan Quest.

And how many times this have to be said: Nissan is not exactly setting the World on fire right now. It is the only major Japanese carmaker suffering sales decreases.

“Richard”, sales decreases because of old models maybe?

We’ll see next year.

If Nissan offered the Stagea in all model trim levels in the USA, they would cut into Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum Hemi sales.

If Nissan would build a $20k rear-drive Silvia sportscar replacement slotted beneath the Z, they might cut into the entry level enthusiast market even more.

Generally, most of Nissan’s new vehicles resemble other vehicles in their lineup. I think some differention and more curves would do well for the public liking their cars in general. Nissan’s pedestrian cars look like bubbles right now.

I’m with you lambo, don’t taint Nissan with Ford NA!

Hyp, you said it; where is the Silvia replacement? And why are all new Nissans beaten with the ugly stick before leaving the factory?

I want to buy a Nissan Silvia. Not a Z. I want the smaller car. Now I can buy a worn out 240SX and go to the trouble of swapping in a Japanese turbo engine, but this is illegal in many states.

And yet oh so popular. Why? The cars are lightweight (2800lbs), REAR DRIVE, handle with excellent balance and offer a revvy turbocharged engine that you can, if you really want to, easily modify for more horsepower.

THAT is the entry level enthusiast market. THAT is what I cannot drive in major cities because a 240SX fixer upper is not certified for USA emissions and is therefore subject to fines and in some cases outright seizure.

Now why on Earth would I want to deal with all of that? I, personally, do not because I don’t have the time to waste on the ordeal. Maybe that’s just me.

There are other cars of course but what I want as a buyer is that particular car.

And Nissan isn’t offering it to me. I think they’re collosal idiots.

Now they are working hard on the GT-R right now so perhaps after it’s released they’ll come to their senses and sell a global turbo Silvia.

I didn’t mean to overtake the thread with that issue guys. Sorry. It just burns me up quite a bit.

Ford (and GM) desparately need access to small diesel motors that a european company like Renault has. In this regard, Chrysler’s lucky. Both Ford and GM have driven themselves off the cliff by spending millions retooling their big SUVs and pickups — even after 9/11 and our invasion of Iraq. Hello, is anyone home and paying attention in Detroit? I hope the tax payers don’t have to bail these arrogant idiots out.

With Toyota and Honda pounding out hybrids and with over half of all cars sales in europe being diesels, who made the fatal business decisions? Fooled once (1970’s). Fool twice (now). I have no sympathy for Ford or GM.. used to.

The Fall Of GM Is Inevitable

Please God no.

Rather see Ford get better then GM. GM is too big, clumsy and lazy to sort its self out

Gm will die.