Comments on: Renault preparing Miata-fighter

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:18:47 +0000

Boxter us in there: it’s porsche’s version of the miata. a honda will only beat a mazda or gm product to the junkyard

sharpie: what are you talking about. I thought i made it perfectly clear that I considered gave the miata credit for reviving interest in the “small roadster” segment.

The other cars, even though they may be better than the miata, are still knockoffs. had the miata flopped, would there be a solstice? No.

The dodge demon looks cool, and I hope they make it, but I’m not buying one

By: sharpie

sharpie — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:50:12 +0000

“Miata and knockoffs. . .” by jackjimturkey

You can’t call Miata knockoffs and rank Sol/Sky #1. They have the look and that’s about all they have. S2000 beat both the Miata and Sky/Sol hands down, but we are talking a lot more money, same thing with the Z3. So again, your list is comparing orange to apple. Why don’t you throw a Porsche in there then?

For the money, Miata reigns, but doesn’t look as nice as Sky/Sol. The Renault is uglier than any roadster I can remember, and yes it is ranked behind the Demon unless the Made in China car is no more than tin can on wheels.

FYI, there are devoted fans or cults following the Miata both in the US and worldwide since the 1990s. So much for your ill-informed knockoffs comment.

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:16:09 +0000

well said htay5500

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:34:29 +0000

Someone up higher mentioned the clio/versa connection. I’m in an occupation that requires skepticism, so I looked it up.

By: Htay5500

Htay5500 — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 19:25:24 +0000

not to mention their muscle cars.

By: Htay5500

Htay5500 — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 19:15:19 +0000

jack: reault & nissan have some sort of conjunction together. dont remember what other nissan cars is based on renults or the other way around.

AMGoff: I like GM (for their corvette and silverado, avalanche too as well as some caddies, tahoes and suburbans), but fanboys like v-series and gmsales piss the **** off me. I respect domestic fans, not their fanboys, or whoever bags on other imports/domestics ignorantly, but I just don’t like fanboys at all.

By: AMGoff

AMGoff — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:52:49 +0000

I’m all for defending Detroit… but GMsales makes that Assclown Deanster look like a well informed, eloquent, gentleman… I’m really not quite sure who you’re helping there pal.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:12:56 +0000

htay: I like subarus, because they’re tough.

versa is really a clio? Didn’t know that

By: Blakkarr

Blakkarr — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:05:16 +0000

It’ll probably sell as a Nissan in the US, like their Versa is really a Clio. That would be nice though if unlikely.

By: Htay5500

Htay5500 — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:12:43 +0000

I wouldnt get a miata, but I know some guys who used those cars as track/auto-x cars. I tried it, and the handling, and response was good! though the suspension and a stabilizer bar was in it. over all, it is a great car. but I’m into subarus for now.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:00:51 +0000

I’m not concerned about being called feminine, I just think the miata is. I wish I had a Hennessy Viper, but i don’t. Viper’s not really my speed, give me a maranello.

Me: If I did drive a miate, you think i would admit it?

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:31:50 +0000

i wouldnt call any of them a ripoff in all reality, this segment goes back 60 years.

By: Me

Me — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:21:41 +0000

So, jackjimturkey, you laugh at men and women who drive miatas. It’s too bad you would never drive one (or its “knock-offs”) or risk being called feminine, right? I’m sure the “balls-out” Hennessy Viper in your garage exudes your testosterone levels enough. Don’t worry, you’re covered. But, then again, if you didn’t drive them how can you come up with your cool little random lists of best to worst?? Oh and good call lumping the Civic in with a Yugo. BTW, I don’t have a miata, but they are a blast to drive.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:00:28 +0000

GM sales: They’re all 4-cylinder convertible type cars (’cept boxster and some z3s), not quite with the balls-out power of a sports car, but zippier that a piece of excrement such as a yugo or civic.

Not my cup of tea, but if I wanted such a car, i’d get the sky.

Should’ve bought a Saturn years ago, instead of a honda

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:53:33 +0000

CTS the miata could be called an MG ripoff, but that sort of car faded away back when the fiero and original mr2 were on the market. The miata represented the return of that type of car to american popularity.

htay: I don’t have a problem with the quality of the miata, but compared to all it’s knockoffs, it’s underpowered, overpriced and feminine

I laugh at any “man,” that drives a miata, and at any women older than 22 who drives one

and you meant “exceeding,” not “succeding.” I stand firm that the GM twins are of higher quality and will prove more durable

By: Htay5500

Htay5500 — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:17:25 +0000

the miata has been around for 17 years, and the sky/solstice have only bee around for a year. how are they succeding the miata in quality/reliability?

By: TOZO

TOZO — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:11:45 +0000

Might have done better with a rebadged Nissan Z.

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:04:01 +0000

holy crap gm sales called someone a moron, now thats irony at its finest.
isnt the miata an mg ripoff then?

By: 1487_GM_SALES

1487_GM_SALES — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:22:51 +0000

The Solstice and the Sky are the Covette
The rest are the Civic.

One is a top pick, the rest a for losers.

By: 1487_GM_SALES

1487_GM_SALES — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:21:50 +0000

The Solstice and the Sky are above the others in performance, quality and certainly reliability. They’re hot right now. The rest of your list is filled with a bunch of loser pansy-mobiles. That is what I meant.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:19:25 +0000

I messed up.
Miata should be between boxster and renault.

GM sales: Why should the solstice and sky not be there?

The only thing a vette and a civic have in common are four wheels.

For one, a person with a brain would buy a Vette.

By: 1487_GM_SALES

1487_GM_SALES — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:46:33 +0000

The Solstice and Sky shouldn’t even be in that list moron. You’re comparing one of the hottest cars out there with a bunch of pansy mobiles. It’s like comparing a Vette with a Civic.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:42:27 +0000

Looks like a lotus.

Miata and knockoffs, ranked best to worst

1 Solstice/Sky
2 Z3
3 Boxster
4 This Renault
5 S2000 (a honda not at the bottom?)
6 MR2

By: nitinsharma1000

nitinsharma1000 — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:05:04 +0000

and soltice and sky are more reliable and better interior quality than miata. prove it 1487_GM_SALES is u are a man that is.

By: AMGoff

AMGoff — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:36:30 +0000

since when is renault a desirable brand? even I’d take a Japanese car over a French one.

By: 1487_GM_SALES

1487_GM_SALES — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:08:04 +0000

Yay, so renault is joining the girlie roadster group.

Solstice and Sky should remain at the top of the roadster class. Nobody can trust renault anymore cause their reliabililty has always been horrid. It’s actually worse than the Miata.

By: maximus

maximus — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:33:23 +0000

it looks retarded

By: global_lightning

global_lightning — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:15:38 +0000

In the U.S. call it the Fuego II

By: Syrax

Syrax — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:08:18 +0000

copperhead anyday…almost 10 years and still a good design.

By: RicardoHead

RicardoHead — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:46:30 +0000

I want a Solstice GXP coupe. It’s like a modern 240Z which was the best cheap well-built sportscar of all time.

By: GBilbo070

GBilbo070 — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 07:27:39 +0000

Dont worry you know that it isnt going to look even cloe to that.

By: V-series

V-series — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:10:41 +0000

Solstice GXP all the way!! 260hp, 260ft/lb of torque, in a 2900lb car. 0-60 in 5.2 seconds. It outruns all of its competition… BMW Z4, Porsche Boxster, S2000, 350Z, MR2, and the MX-5. Plus, its American made so you know it will run forever.

By: gtv6

gtv6 — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:45:19 +0000

I agree, it does look a little like the Celica. The headlights are terrible. I think they need to build the dodge demon. Normally I don’t like aggressively styled cars, but with a roadster that small, I think you need an aggressive look. That’s the problem with the miata.

By: Deanster

Deanster — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:04:53 +0000

JEsus this is an ugly car

By: RicardoHead

RicardoHead — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:27:42 +0000

Depending on price, I’d take this over a Miata any day (looks-wise), and certainly over BMW’s overdone soul-less Weiberwagen Z4 POS, but I think the Solstice looks better than all of them. The verdict is still out on the Sky.