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Report: Audi planning R4 to compete with Cayman, Boxster

10/20/2006, 12:00 PM

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Audi is planning a third sports car in addition to the long-standing TT and recently-introduced R8, according to the latest issue of Germany’s Autobild. The car would be sold under the R4 moniker, the report said.

Like the R8, the R4 would be a two-seater with a mid-engine configuration. The base model would have at least 200 horsepower, and pricing would start around 40,000 euros. The car would be contracted of aluminum and steel, weighing around 2,600 lbs. High performance models with power between 280 horsepower and 350 horsepower are also likely, the magazine said. It would compete with the Porsche Cayman and Boxster.

The proposed R4 project would be a joint effort with sister company SEAT, which is planning a similar vehicle. The SEAT model — which would be sold as a coupe only — would likely cost around 30,000 euros and be limited to around 6,000 cars. The R4, on the other hand, would be higher volume with 35,000 cars and would come as a coupe or roadster. The Audi will have an entirely unique exterior and a better interior than its SEAT counterpart. The R4 would likely arrive in 2010. [See full cover PDF here].

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10/20, 12:13 PM

posted by:

tailg8r

sign my wife and i up for one

thanks AUDI!

10/20, 12:20 PM

posted by:

Jimbo - G Mill$

damn. thats gonna be a niice ride. audi revenues are prime and with marketing like this; i can’t see their market share decreasing by trend anytime soon.

10/20, 12:25 PM

posted by:

Renton

Sounds like a winning combination. I hope they build it. It will need more than 200 hp if it costs $40K+

YBH is just is not as fun to go into anymore since Porsche moved up the street.

10/20, 12:27 PM

posted by:

sampson

More car makers need to be shooting for 2600 lbs with 200+ horsepower… Enthusiasts get what they want, and with the vehicles weighing less, they’ll be more efficient so environmentalists are happy too.

10/20, 12:28 PM

posted by:

Don

i’m guessing it’s gonna be quattro, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s FWD

10/20, 12:33 PM

posted by:

bepsf

Don–

“Like the R8, the R4 would be a two-seater with a mid-engine configuration.”
Now why would it be FWD???

10/20, 12:38 PM

posted by:

Endurancevm

Wow, a FWD mid engined roadster…sign me up for one when i dont care about performance from my sports car.

10/20, 12:49 PM

posted by:

Don

my fault, I forgot it will be mid-engined. But if that weren’t the case, FWD wouldn’t be out of the question since the regular TT A4, and A6 are. If it’s only 200 hp, they’d do it.

10/20, 1:30 PM

posted by:

nowei

I don’t know how I feel about this car at all…

A) Haven’t Audi already expressed concern that a high performance TT could compromise the R8? If that’s the case why build a model in between the two? Or maybe that was just an excuse for not building a high performance TT when they knew an R4 was in the works. Still, the high performance TT vs. base R8 was believeable enough that I think this just further complicates things.

B) If this isn’t cutting into the R8’s segment, will it be cutting into the TT’s? Especially since it doesn’t sound to me as though there’s that much of a difference in price between the two.

C) It’s gotta be offered with RWD as an option if it’s going to compete with the Cayman and Boxster. If it’s quattro only then there’s a big gap between those models. Standard RWD with quattro as an option might give it an edge, though.

D) Again, aren’t Audi and Porsche fairly closely alligned? It seems that the Volkswagen-related factions are intent on competing with each other while they’re trying to move into BMW/Mercedes territory, and that just doesn’t make any sense.

E) I think the high volume idea is really quite flawed. With such an uncertain segment that’s already occupied by the company’s own cars, I don’t know who they think will be buying these cars. That being said, I can see the SEAT model being a huge success. If it and the Audi are more-or-less the same car, I’d opt for the less plush interior of the SEAT (it’ll probably weigh less as an added bonus) and enjoy the fact that I had a more exclusive car than the “upmarket” Audi.

I think Audi might be playing a dangerous game in flooding the market with too many models that are too similar. That being said, assuming the manufacturing processes are all streamlined and they can basically build these models interchangably (which doesn’t really sound like the case) then it’s a brilliant idea. Flood the market with a variety of models and see which ones the public likes.

That being said, it does sound like a cool car, but it’s one of many.

/no

10/20, 1:56 PM

posted by:

meanpants555

It’ll probably replace the TT and be AWD only, no? It is in my eyes better looking than the R8. Somehow the R8 is too globby, this R4 is crispy and appears to be missing its B-pillar, very sweet.
It would be a ‘halo product’ for SEAT and expensive for them; 6,000 would be all they could sell. Remember Vauxhall with the VX220? Those weren’t flying out of the showroom.

10/20, 2:00 PM

posted by:

meanpants555

Sampson: I agree with what you state 100%, if a car is light enough it doesn’t need the mega horse power, massive brakes, etc…

Better by design and not over engineered.

10/20, 2:15 PM

posted by:

Brendino

Someday I’d like to see a survey to see how many Joe Schmo buyers care about FWD. I know that enthusiasts are vehemently opposed to it in sports cars, but how many mainstream buyers are okay with it? And just how much does the whole “RWD is impossible to drive in the snow” thing affect peoples’ purchases of vehicles?

10/20, 6:53 PM

posted by:

Foster

RWD, not able to drive in snow. Off topic but since you said it well. Take a 1990 Ford Tarus Sedan and Mustand.
Sedan bad in snow FWD MUSTAND okay up to about 6inchs going very slow but I had to put chains on the sedan to get it to do the same. But if you take a BMW 330i and A fwd audi A4 the BMW go’s threw the snow better. BUt the quattro is the best. Then again Take an Xi and were all the same Again. Really rear wheel drive doesnt make a care handle worse in snow or rain or ice. Its how it is balanced.

10/20, 7:24 PM

posted by:

Fatstrat

Any competition in any segment is good. I would like to see an all out war in this one.

10/20, 9:16 PM

posted by:

A4

itll be awesome

10/20, 9:20 PM

posted by:

Renton

Foster,

Balance is one thing, but it really is all about the tires.

A RWD car with good snow tires does real well. The best snow tires are Hakkapeliittas.

http://www.nokiantyres.com/wintertyres_en

Put on a set and you’ll do fine, no matter what drivetrain you are running.

An Audi Quattro with a set of Hakkas will climb trees.

10/20, 9:23 PM

posted by:

Veda

Audi’s coming out with way too many models and performance oriented ones at that. I’d rather see them improve their notorious durability issues instead of trying to expand at this rate.

10/20, 9:41 PM

posted by:

A4

ive got nokians and they are absolutly amazing

 
 
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