no bangle haters yet???? Good.

lol

lol lets laugh at new m3 for now

295 torque ahahahah, mustang gt has more torque than that for half the price

idn? i jst wish they would keep it exclusive and charge more…is the m6 not enough to rival the sl/cl?

How’s that Z4 Coupe selling? I have seen only one here in Atlanta…

LightSpeed you have no idea what you are talking about. The E93 M3’s engine makes 85% tq over a 6500rpm power band, with an 8300 rpm redline. Are you suggesting that a mustang GT is a quicker car than the M3 will be? Leave. And i do believe there is a place for this car. while the M6 is a monster, it is just that….huge. If BMW has a lighter and sportier coupe offering, i think it will sell. You may counter with the M coupe, etc, but that is a very small car, and a Z9 would bridge the gap between the M and M6 i believe. of course pricing and performance will be the determining factors, so no one can know for sure.

Chris Bangle rules!!!!

I’m looking forward to this release. Bangle has gotten a handle on matters, and seems to be back on track.

I was hoping for a mid-engine car to go toe-to-toe with Audi’s new R8.

Isn’t Lightspeed Kias in house tuner program?? I saw a Rio with a lightspeed sticker across the window.

Who cares if it only makes 300lbs of torque? Torque is not what makes a car fast or not. HP and weight are FAR more important that torque. Lets all laugh at the F360 for only making 275lbs of torque. What a crap car for only making that amount of torque.

But really, I think this is the perfect combo of HP/torque. It allows plenty of hp, and a torque number just high enough so it will give the engine time howl.

Besides, it you really want a torque monster get an AMG or luxocruiser. I perfer sports car to have about a 125% HP/torque ratio anyway.

Who’s laughing at the 360? And what the heck does the M3 have to do with the new Z9?

^apparently you missed LightSpeed’s comment

in anxious to see what it will look like. Hopefully not a banglefied version of the z8

“HP and weight are FAR more important that torque.”

Wow, you should really get your basics right before commenting here. Horsepower is a measurement of torque at any given RPM. Torque output IS half of what makes a car powerful. The other half is sustaining a high torque curve and gearing. Horsepower is NOT a physical force of any kind.

For those who think torque is irrelevant needs to go back to the 1994 Indy 500 when that Penske car just walked away from the herd.

The RS4 is the M3’s main competition right? That car has 315lbs of torque and no-ones complaining about that. Thats only 20lbs more than the M3 and as previously said the M3 has it over a 6500RPM band. Don’t discount this car!!! numbers don’t tell the whole story…

And with the M3s torque, work this one out.

85% of the torque is available from 2000RPM.

There is a 6500RPM band for 85%of the torque.

That means there should still be 250lbs of torque (85%) at 8500RPM.

M3s redline is 8300RPM.

Anyone else see what I’m on about…

wow light speed made everyone talk about the M3 instead of the Z9.

Aww, why couldn’t they debut this at the New York show? I would have liked to see it up close.

@josh-Well, the C63 will be another one thrown into the small sedan+big V8 HP pissing war.

Probably right around 450lb-ft of torque. However, as an AMG engine, it’s more of a slam-on-the-pedal, torques ready right around 2000rpms kind of engine. The M3’s V8 is a high revvin one that will require some more attention, and IMO be more fun.

———————->LAUGH OUT LOUD PrimeGTP!! Serious REAL TALK, think about what you said or where ever you read it from. “Horsepower is a measurement of torque at any given RPM.” —–> In YOUR case, you’re telling me that my SRT-4 can make 230hp@1500RPM instead of 5700?? you musta read a Fisher-Price tricycle manual……..

I must have missed something, where exactly is the M3 mentioned in that article?

SRT-4Ken, yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. In fact, your SRT-4 makes 230hp at 1RPM as well! Isn’t that just amazing??

Why don’t you bother to do 5 minutes of research on a little thing called “formulas” before posting stupid ****?

And in case it escaped you, that first part there was sarcasm.

If the Z9 has the BMW 335 twin turbo setup, this is one promising BMW.

Still I wonder if they can move 15000 of these BMWs a year.

They definitely need to offer the coupe version if they want to. Many won’t want to deal with the weight and liability of a hardtop convertible.

——————->lol dude i “do 5 minutes of research on a little thing called “formulas”" on the screen above the cash register for 6 hours everytime i go to work at Advance Autoparts…….real talk, if horsepower was, as you say, a measurement of torque @ any given RPM, then in dat case there seriously would be no such thing as a horsepower curve……Road&Track would just be waisting their Ink saying that my SRT-4 made 230hp@5700rpm and 250lb/ft@3200rpm……IN CONCLUSION: just as feet are to meters or yards, horsepower IS a physical force just as torque.

—————->I feel ya car lord, i like both myself…….

It should be brilliant. However, we all know what happened with the Z8…

Horsepower IS a measurement of torque at a given RPM, it’s the definition of the term. That doesn’t mean horsepower doesn’t mean anything, but you can’t say that horsepower is more important than torque like the person I was replying to did, because horsepower *relies* on torque to EXIST. Torque and work are forces, horsepower is a calculation of force. I did not say it doesn’t mean anything, just setting a misconception straight.

SRT-4Ken, you are a complete and utter moron. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque
shut your mouth, PrimeGTP is correct.

HP=(torque*rotational speed)/5252

primegtp and hyperlite are indeed correct 100%, its just that it is a formula that most people are not aware of.

The point is this car will be fast because it utilizes its torque more efficiently by means of a *steady torque curve* and *gearing*. And a good torque curve is what CREATES high horsepower numbers.

—————–>lol NOW, well stated^^…………………………………………………horsepower still aint a “measure of torque @ ANY given RPM” like you stated above, you misinterpreted the words, its supposed to be: “horsepower is a measure of torque[times]RPM[divided]by 5252, NOW well stated here lol……….man i wish i wasn’t so technical……..

no point putting camo over it when they test it, because it looks adsactly the same as any other BMW. “a rival to the Mercedes SL-Class “… nice, bmw also known as the copy cats are coming out again… i think they are going to be running out of numbers… what about the Z10? hmm

ok.. it’s april 22nd today.. were’s the car??