Europenas are giong to eat this thing up. GM won’t be able to keep up with the demand. This is the hottest car of the decade and everyone wants a piece of it.

GM. An American Revolution

Europenas? Is that like jalapenos? And is that what makes it “the hottest car of the decade” or just what they’ll ingest before they sh*t all over it?

Just what the Europeans asked for! An overweight RWD Coupe with engines that would be taxed beyong belief. They will eat this thing up, the EU will for that matter.

Europenas are giong to eat this thing up

GM won’t be able to keep up with the demand

Ya?– kind of like how spell check can’t keep up with your awesome writing ability?

its too bad “the hottest car of the decade” came out in 2009, NEXT!

It doesn’t look as good as Bumble Bee but it’s one of the most fun to drive car.

Gas taxes based on the size of the engine in this thing will be sky high. And the interiour quality will need to be improved before this will sell in large numbers. Good move otherwise.

anybody tell me how well the vette does in europe?

S2L2SC

- Yeah, don’t know how this will jive by them unless it gets like a 2.0T hahaha rofl

Europenan spec will most probably be a diesel version.

(hello i’m a frenchy)

To answer the question above, i maybe have seen 2 or 3 times in my life a vette in France. It’s somewhat more common in Germany, along with the ford mustang. if you’re lucky you can see one or two of them in a month on the autobahn, but american muscle cars are not a hit in Europe.

In my opinion, If GM wants a chance to sell the camaro in Europe, they will have to retain the american price tag. A chevrolet camaro for 22k euros, Yes bring it here !!!

Smart European really never will be buy this crap. Cheap plastic, slow, ugly, use gas like boeing 747, and most important thing American quality

I dont think its intended to be a volume seller for the European market rather than a cool flagship for the Chevrolet brand – at least for now.

I can’t wait for Top Gear to get a hold of this! They are so skeptical of American cars….muscle cars especially. I’ll be interested to see what they think of the Camaro.

Good luck Chevrolet… You’re gonna need it!

According to gm.com the camaro price range is 22k$ to 33k$, so 15k euros to 22k euros. the target for this kind of car would be young people looking for a powerful car, so price will be important. For the perspective, a golf GTI is listed for 26k euros.
If they sell it for 30k+ euros (which would be the european price for this type of car), they can forget it. American cars have a too bad reputation here to justify this price: unreliable, unsafe, cheap interior, not technology technologically and horrible handling not suited for europeans roads. But, they look nice. American car design make people turn their head over here (except the chevrolet aveo which is a korean POS).

@ volo , i was in college in Germany and during the summer vacations i worked as an interpreter for the US Army in Hohenfels, Bavaria. there i saw the new Mustang for the first time and a few Corvettes. most muscle cars in Germany belong to the US military personnel stationed there.

At $2/liter of car juice (about $7-8/gallon) I can see lines forming in front of the dealership.

European rednecks!!!

@ Madcapp. it’s spelled “Europenan”

JakeK66 @ 7/06, 1:00pm

If you haven’t noticed everything European roughly the Camaro’s size weight at least 200 lbs more unless you pay the equivalent of $100K for it, then it omits that 200 or so pounds and has the driving manners of a cup racer, which unless you mean to use it as such is a very lousy idea. And I don’t think gas taxes will be that much of an issue. Although I doubt the big V8 will be a common engine in Europe, mainly with the well heeled looking for something butch. I would expect the V6 to be the norm even more than in the US.

S2L2SC @ 7/06, 1:27pm

Not every European car in Europe is as masterfully built as you might imagine. Don’t get me wrong the upper quarter are impressive and nearly perfect, but that would be cars you only get to see in photos or have someone staring at you like you are not welcome while you do. That still leaves the other 75% that is passable to crap and unless you really haven’t been paying attention, DETROIT has been making huge improvements. I would put most newer GMs and FORDs o the upper 80 percental or higher. In fact, I found most Mercedes, for example, including the S-class, to be no better than a Camary or a Fusion. Fancier like night and day but not really better.

Borat @ 07/06, 4:53

And you think a turbo four making 300+ hp is any better? Unless they are withholding something, to the US market, the last time I checked most such cars manage barely more than 25mpg, the EVO X getting maybe 26mpg, hiding only passing gas mileage behind a tiny engine to avoid taxes. With the V8, the Camaro can do the same. But skipping that the V6 will get up to 29mpg. Someone mentioned a Diesel option, I would not put it past them, I just wish GM would do the same in the US, even a slightly re-tuned Duramax would be a keen option.

All the same, I would expect the CAMARO to be a big seller in EUROPE. It’s too bloody AMERICAN for those limp-wristed, qeesh-eating, panty-wastes to ever really understand the joy of driving a car powered with a healthy dose of Testosterone and not have to pay a fortune for the opportunity. They, like a lot of haters, spend too much time b!tching about the car they can get while worshiping the car they never could and never will.

Oh thanks god for this news story — now I can move to Monaco at last.

lol at johnnyc

Borat my sentiments exactly. with the Euro’s higher Gasoline price I doubt seriously the Chevy Camaro is suited to the energy conscious Europeans.

@ Blakkarr , as a European male i can assure you we are more into estrogen than testosterone

you really can’t say that europeans have higher quality cars at the base than the US. that is because we only see the expensive, high end cars that people buy in america. Not everyone drives a merc. BMW or porsche on Europe, even VW’s are kinda like buick in Germany. they have many car companies that make small, cheap, and efficient cars in Germany, just like GM in america. All said, the Camaro is a mistake.

muscle cars work in the US because gas is cheap. in Europe it’s expensive.
someone who can pay a large amount every month on gas , high insurance and taxes for a large engine , also has enough money to get an expensive sportscar and wouldn’t chose a cheap muscle car.

someone who can’t afford an expensive sportscar also can’t afford the monthly costs that come with a muscle car. the cheap sportscar segment in Europe is populated by hot hatches for a reason.

the V6 Camaro might have a chance if they keep it under 30.000 € with taxes.

@ Blakkarr you don’t know sh!t about Europe, do you?
1. Mustang V6 in Us, 21 000$ – Mustang V6 in Greece 40 000 Euro (56k $)
2. You might think that those prices aren’t representable but we have the same taxes for German, American and Japanese cars, as well. So it isn’t representable but it is comparisonable with other cars in our market.
3. What’s Ford up against then? An Audi A4 2.0t 211hp Quattro (41 000 Euro).
Shall we start the comparison? What does the ford have that is better than the Audi?
Good quality? You must be joking…
More space? It’s bigger to park and smaller for passengers. Completely impractical.
Better mileage? There is a litle trick called downsizing. It’s the future. Check it out.
Is it cheaper to maintain? Audi is built next door and it has a well established serviced network with lot’s of parts availiable. How much time will i have to wait to get a mustang repaired if something mechanical is broken?
Does it handle better? No way. Ford is built for americans while audi has 4wd system.
Is the steering better? Not even that.
Is it faster in straight line? Not really. Ford weights lot more. Plus it’s hard to find a straight line here…
4. So muscle cars aren’t cheap at all, don’t handle (for their money), have poor quality (for their money) and it’s hard to be repaired because parts are hard to find… What’s the damn point?

Finally someone who is right on their mind. Bravo SomeGreek

Camaro, Mustang, Challenger: they don’t work in Europe. They cost a lot to maintain. Even their smallest engine options are huge. They handle like boats, and we here in Europe have something that is called corner, therefore we need better handling cars. No wonder hot hatches are the sports cars of Europe, they weight nothing, are very practical, get good gas mileage and are easy to park. Muscle cars on the other hand weight a lot, their practicality is a joke, good mileage is unthinkable and their huge.
Chevy, if you want to sell cars in Europe, bring the Cobalt here, the Camaro won’t do any good

Talk about reputations succeeding the actual item…

Camaro, yeah, it’s a pig compared to an A4 or something like that. But we need to take a better look at the assumptions and learn the truth.

Many older (and some newer) American cars handle like battleships. But take a look at the ‘Vette and the Viper ACR. Compare their handling to that of Europe’s finest, and you’ll find the Americans are right up there. AWD doesn’t immediately equal great handling (although it does help). One fact that I think is quite amusing is that the Nissan GT-R (with AWD) actually beats the Viper ACR to 60mph with the launch control on, but the Viper ACR actually has better lateral acceleration, better braking and a higher slalom speed. That’s totally opposite of the reputations.

Quality? That all depends on what you consider to be “quality”. Some people look at fit and finish, others look at reliability, others look at design, and others look at the ease of mechanics. There are more categories, too. If you’re talking fit and finish, well, I’ll give you that one. If you’re talking something like ease of mechanics, no Euro car will touch the Americans in that regard. Ever try to change a belt in a Euro car and then an American car? Olds will tell you all about that one. Reliability? I don’t think the current muscle cars are any worse or better than their Euro counterparts. The trouble is, in Europe, Camaro maintenance is pricey, whereas here, Euro maintenance is pricey.

Mileage? That can be a good arguing point. Whereas higher displacement yields lower economy in the city, the constant working of the smaller engines gives you lower highway economy at the same cruising speed. High displacement engines don’t work very hard on the highways, and can climb steep hills without shifting gears, meaning better economy during those times. I think one would find the two to be about equal. Choose according to the needs.

However, there is a major stigma in Europe against American muscle cars, and because of this GM should have the Cobalt on their shores instead of the Camaro. Both options would be an even better choice.