Comments on: Report: Chrysler 300-based Alfa Romeo to be built in Canada

By: jayjc08

jayjc08 — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:38:28 +0000

SomeGreek- And, their road cars? Pontiac has also been successful in racing as of late- with their G6 taking quite a few wins and their Daytona prototype placing well.

By: SoTXFord

SoTXFord — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:21:18 +0000

Congrats Fiat, you’ve finally found a way to build an Alfa that even Jeremy Clarkson wouldn’t drive!

By: Veda

Veda — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:52:12 +0000

Who cares, everyone in US just wants a Brera or GT.

By: F50

F50 — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:17:10 +0000

Actually after thinking about the Alfa + Hemi thing, it might actually be good since its going to be like the old De Tomaso’s using the Ford V8’s.

By: SomeGreek

SomeGreek — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:34:06 +0000

Alfa has been racing in formula one before it was even named like that. It had the most succesfull team in championship by far until they decided to withdraw and focus on production cars. They sold the team at some talented loser of the time. Enzo Ferrari…

By: jayjc08

jayjc08 — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:56:46 +0000

SomeGreek- Reason why I say that is because both Pontiac and Alfa were performance marks. Sorry, but Alfa’s just don’t perform anymore. Pontiac for the most part don’t. Atleast your guys Alfa’s are better looking. Both don’t have the quality, Alfa probably worse than Pontiac.

By: SomeGreek

SomeGreek — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:27:44 +0000

CarCzarCdn,
no one buys Chryslers in Europe.
jayjc08,
Alfa, the Pontiac of Europe? For Christ sake…

I don’t think Alfa will follow LLN’s speculations. It would result to an awfull car.

By: alfa owner

alfa owner — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:25:09 +0000

Ummm, F50, Alfas have always had hemis…

By: status

status — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:06:47 +0000

just what I’ve always wanted!!!!!! an italian car based on an american car based on a german car built in canada. and jake k, there is nothing premium about a chrysler.

By: teahead

teahead — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:26:15 +0000

I think w/a Phoenix V6 and MDS 400hp V8, will do well in Europe IF the interior kicks arse and the front end isn’t too ugly.

By: zoomzoomer

zoomzoomer — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:10:28 +0000

Remember the 166’s predecessor, the 164? It was a large FWD platform shared with Fiat and SAAB.. even though a Daimler/Chrysler platform sounds like heresy for Alfa Romeo.. at least it’s RWD.

By: A4

A4 — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:02:43 +0000

Borat, Fiat could have all the diesel engines in the world and that still means jack diddly for us. Ford, GM, Chrysler, Honda, etc. all have tons of diesel technology at their disposal in European countries and how much of it have we seen in the car market? Other than the mainstream Germans we have Zilch.

By: jayjc08

jayjc08 — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:39:00 +0000

I know what your all thinking. “What the fvck, their going to take a huge, bulky American car that used to be a big German sedan and turn it into an Alfa?!”

But don’t worry. It’s only approx. 400 ibs heavier (but also RWD), larger, more flexible and probably better engineered than the current 166 platform.

Alfa is the Pontiac of Europe, just more beauty and less driving to impress.

By: save saab

save saab — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:30:35 +0000

This is a good idea but Alfa has to re-create their V6 engine (their current JTS is really a highly modified GM High Feature engine). This car should be named the Milano because the Giulia name should be named for a small sub 3-series sedan. But it should be a lot smaller than the 300 and Charger. I’m still glad that Alfa is bringing it’s other models here in the near future.

By: CarCzarCdn

CarCzarCdn — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:12:25 +0000

I think you guys might have this all backwards. This car is likely going to be produced here and shipped over to Europe for sale. The Brampton plant currently builds all the 300’s and Magnum’s for worldwide distribution including Europe. It makes sense for Alfa as they’ve been looking for a platform like this, and it utilizes a plant that is already exporting to that country.

By: LDMAN

LDMAN — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:18:40 +0000

Fiat needs the Chrysler platform for the C and D segments where it barely competes on the global scene even with Alfa and Lancia. Frankly it does not need to put its A and B segment platform into Chrysler. The volumes and the margins simply are not there in North America but could, as long as the US$ is undervalued, make sense for export market.
I would guess that the next Alfa Romeo Crossover will be based on a Jeep or even a Dodge platform.
Living in Europe and having owned Alfas I simply need to warn North American Folks to take off their pink tinted nostalgia glasses. Current Alfa Product line does NOT compete with BMW, MB or even Audi. The interior is not very exciting, the quality ….debatable, performance of petrol engines mated to FWD or overweight Q4 …to be taken with a grain of salt. Only the most rabid Alfisti will put up with some of the brand’s most obvious shortcomings.

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:33:47 +0000

Call it the Alfa Bitz.

By: yarddog82abn

yarddog82abn — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:30:49 +0000

FINALLY….

A Chrysler with a respectable interior….

By: mayer_ray_nagin

mayer_ray_nagin — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:30:13 +0000

They need to build a full-sized Alfa on the Dodge Ram platform asap.

By: Blakkarr

Blakkarr — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:19:13 +0000

So quick to dis. I’ll guess half of you just don’t liek CHRYSLER and the other half just are too weak minded to formulate your own opinion.

It’s a new car by FIAT that better reflects what Americans ACTUALLY drive not what pundits, punks, and pussy willows think everyone should be driving. Get over yourselves. Just be happy that FIAT and ALFA are bringing other cars into the mix.

CHRYSLER is going to be using FIAT’s engineering designs to base smaller cars but the majority of people in the US buy and drive larger cars. Trucks and SUVS are in decline but that does not automatically mean we are all going to driving in little pod cars.

I swear some of you think so much like the morons at GM who keep jumping from one end of the size spectrum to the other just because Gas spikes for a few weeks. I think we will see either an end to the HEMI or a major evolution, but big cars are not going away anytime soon if ever. Just the propulsion will change.

I think this article is badly off. The LX is going out for the LY platform which underpins the Challenger. I just wish CHRYSLER would retune the Challenger. It may be heavy as a Clydesdale , but it can still at least try to be a lighter on it feet. Tuner Challengers are outrageously capable, so why can’t DODGE be bothered to get it at least half right?

At any rate, I want to see this ALFA ROMEO built on the LY platform before I pass judgment.

By: Rafa LL

Rafa LL — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:04:02 +0000

They can’t use this and kill Viper.

By: atoms

atoms — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:00:11 +0000

an italian car using a base which has ties to mercedes benz, built in canada….hmmm it really gets around

By: JakeK66

JakeK66 — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:57:23 +0000

Next plat from FIAT – Split up the Brand into there own dealerships – make the Chrysler dealer and Fiats sold together but to get people off their backs for the Fix It Again Tony acronym they’ll call it a vintage all-American name- let’s say Plymouth making Chrysler-Plymouth delaerships.

Next they’ll leave Dodge by themselves – they’re a volume brand anyway, they can hold their own dealers by themselves.

Finally – in a move to become more diverse, they’ll take Jeeps and Alfa’s and put them in a dealer together. To force us to believe Alfa isn’t the same company it once was in terms of qualtiy, they too change their name to an all American icon, the Eagle, making Jeep-Eagle dealerships…

By: 05Z88Path

05Z88Path — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:46:26 +0000

And why do they want a behemoth of a platform? Next they’ll be asking to rebadge a Dodge Durango….jeeze

By: ricky_b

ricky_b — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:45:36 +0000

WRONG DIRECTION FIAT! Fiat designs and powertrains need to feed into Chrysler. Not the other way around.

I’m with A4. I want the 159. Last year, Alfa (Fiat) was reporting that they wanted to get back into the US market before all of this fallout. At the time, they even said that they intended to make the new 159 (circa 2012) to meet all US regulations (current 159s do not). I’m hoping they still follow through. If they want to let Chrysler designers use the same platform to adapt a Chrysler, fine.

But an Alfa 300. Yuck.

By: JakeK66

JakeK66 — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:28:25 +0000

So let’s just clear this up – as if there wasn’t enough brands in the stable, they need to add two more just to keep it interesting? Come on, HOW MANY TIMES do we have to go over this? FIVE brands is just too much for one company and dealership. especially one that doesn’t have much of a market as of right now anyway. The focus isn’t there, Chrysler Dodge Jeep is actually a nice mix of brands for premium/value/utility but adding Fiat and Alfa just is going to extend it too far.

By: F50

F50 — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:21:07 +0000

Alfa’s with a hemi… would just be wrong!

By: rzegatl

rzegatl — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:13:10 +0000

all wrong

By: ahnuconun

ahnuconun — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:12:37 +0000

You have *got* to be kidding me. An American car using obsolete German components rebadged with an historic Italian name? I don’t know who, but a whole lot of dead people are spinning in their graves.

By: shaver

shaver — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:09:22 +0000

Calfa Romero?
They should make it in Jersey using real Italianos.

By: Borat

Borat — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:08:29 +0000

I imagine the motivation will come from new engine family developed by Chrysler. BTW, FIAT (Alfa) has an excellent V6 motor in its own inventory. Not to mention they have a slew of diesel engines with tremendous output for a diesel ( and enough torque to twist slush box in US trim).

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:03:44 +0000

And be powered by what? The LX needs a big lump for motivation.

By: A4

A4 — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:48:09 +0000

oh man this could be bad… i just want a Brera and a 159.