May8
General Motors' Saab division purportedly used human bodies donated to science in crash tests, according to a Swedish newspaper. "For certain things, it’s important to use cadavers," Claes Tingvall of the Swedish Road Administration told Expressen.
Mr. Tingvall said the tests involved "people who had donated their own bodies." He said using real bodies helps develop better crash dummies and, not surprisingly, provides the best possible idea of what would happen to a living human in a crash.
GM used a total of ten cadavers for the project, according to Tingvall.
Saab would not confirm or deny the reports. "We conduct our own research and try to find other methods to achieve our results, with the help of computers, for example,” said Saab spokesperson Christer Nilsson. "We are with GM through thick and thin," Nilsson told the newspaper.
nasty
GM… You bunch of necros…….
Most Saabs on the road might as well be driven by cadavers.
Hello? Yeah Im' just calling because I saw your ad in the News Paper that said you were looking for corpses to crash over and over inside your crappy cars, so I wanted to talk to you and tell you that I could get you a fresh one for tomorrow morning… your mother's you bunch of Mad Scientists!!!!
Damn, just the type of PR GM needs.
A Rob Zombie Production.
Man fuck that, thats just fucked up, seriously fucked up, mangling up human bodies for testing, really fucked up.
it is nasty…but i cant help but find it a wee bit funny, sorta like wtf were they thinking?!
lol Well now we know why Saabs are so safe! Haha
I wonder if they have any crash test videos on Youtube of GM/Saab using Cadavers…
Should get prisoners on life sentences to volunteer for this job. Save $$ in the prison systems thats for sure.
I don't see what the big deal is. Put Al-Qaeda POWs in the cars instead
DumpsterTugJob that's nothing, Renault used drugged up live bears in its crash tests, and canadians get penile enlargements using the skin of dead people
they were donated, id want to have my body crashed in a car if i died, as long as people knew how awesome i was
?? Kakalover, is that supposed to be funny? Dude, I know you're desperate to gain respect and leave some legacy on LLN, but it won't happen with those weak shitstains you're trying to pass off as "jokes."
Anyways, your reputation is that of a rampant cockswallowing, bunghole-shredded cum receptacle. It suits you really well, don't fight it! LOL!!!
hey, there is no substitute for the real human body. I know I shouldn't say this, but I always get excited when called to an accident where there are fatalaties. You guys never get a chance to see it, but seeing someone ripped apart after a crazy accident stirrs up certain things inside you. Maybe thats why most of us troopers are a bit pschyco. The human body is very fragile, last week I saw a lady with her arm ripped off and her leg only hanging by a string of muscle tissue. Nasty but exciting.
No joke Renault really did use live bears.
LOL @ Johnny
Priceless.
This is an old story. I've heard about this years ago. Nothing wrong with it, they donated there bodies to science and their already dead so they can pretty much do whatever they want with them. Don't think other companies aren't doing it too.
Can't they just ask for autopsy reports from deadly crashes ???
They happen quite often in this country.
trooper1:
you're not a bit psycho… you are a pure SoB… hope you see your entire family ripped off, you'd feels giggles wouldn't you?!?
Can't believe there are mfckers that not only think but say things like that.
This is nothing new and GM is not the only one who has done it.
Rafa, if you see what I see every week, you would be just as messed up in the head as I am. Next time you get pulled over by a state trooper, be aware he or she is mentally unstable, and the law always takes the side of law enforcement, giving us the freedom to take out our frustrations on you. Don't be shocked by this, it happens every single day across this great land of the free. Remember those new york cops who got nothing for shooting a guy over 50 times turning his black body into swiss cheese? Clearly they were guilty, but set free, why do you think that is? Thats America, don't like it, move to Europe or Canada, cops like us would never get away with the things we do over there. I love this country!
American cops are messed up indeed but I agree that nothing provides the best example of test sample than actual human bodies. They're donated, they're dead, better use them for something else than fertilizer.
trooper1:
I rarely comment on here anymore but I’m compelled to. You tarnish the trust worthy work of the vast majority of law enforcement men and women in America. The fact that you think the abuses that you enjoy are one of the advantages of being in America, disgusts me. You are a small man if you need to use a position of power and authority to gain pleasure whether by inflicting or observing. There are people that are able to witness some of the brutal realities of life and death. I am grateful for them because they usually apply that ability in a way that helps others who are suffering. Yours is for a self-indulgent thrill.
Anyway, about the article, i would never take part in it but I’m sure in some way, at some time I will benefit from some of the research. Kind of disgusting though. Get Real made a good point about examining actual accident data.
ever been in a war zone? now there's some nasty shit buddy. i have some pictures too. like one guy with a sniper, well, u get the picture…gun was Barrett M107 Sniper Rifle… .50 Caliber round.
As far as this actual article goes… what's the big deal? These cadavers were donated to science by the people who actually occupied those bodies before their deaths… Engineering safe cars is a science and crash dummies only provide a certain amount of useable data… it's sure as hell a more worthwhile endeavor than just wanting your body either put in some hole in the ground or incinerated. People need to just get over any stigma of "creepiness" surrounding such things.. because once you die, your body is nothing but an empty vessel and a giant lump of dead organic mass that's only going to decompose anyway… So why not use such to ensure safer, healthier lives for those who are still living?
Oh… and as far as Mr. Trooper goes… If you are actually a police officer - you're a fucking disgrace of a cumstain. It's bad enough that there are those officers out there that abuse their position and tarnish the reputation of the actual good ones out there… but to then have one who blatantly brags and seems proud of such abuses? You take worthlessness to a whole new level. Just remember pal… every bad cop eventually gets whats coming to them. You seem so smug about those NYC officers getting let off for killing those kids… Well, you know what? They may have escaped those criminal charges, but they're going to get their asses handed to them during the civil case and then they'll be spending the rest of their natural lives working three jobs just to pay the settlements. Any cops that abuse their position do so because they're cowards who hide behind their badge in an effort to make up for their own inadequacies and they work the jobs they do because deep down they know they could never be gainfully employed elsewhere, so they might as well continue on their state-funded charity welfare. But then again… I can't blame them for being corrupt because they're too stupid to really comprehend the actual purpose of their jobs, nor the laws they're meant to uphold. It's just a shame for the countless good, well meaning cops out there, because not only does it tarnish their name and reputations, but it's douchebags like you that get many of them shot.
GM, you sick bastards.
LaCaLover, that's a double-sick to you, but good to know (if true).
Err, I can't help thinking something has been lost in translation, and mangled in the interviews.
A body donated to science doesn't go to a company like Saab or GM. It goes to a university or medical school. IIRC it was such institutions that used cadavers and even live volunteers to conduct crash tests in the '50s and '60s before crash test dummies were developed. This explains why Saab would say "We conduct our own tests" (i.e. independently of university research with cadavers).
Real crashes are analyzed, but can't provide the same controlled conditions—speed, trajectory, impact, seatbelt use etc all have to be worked out from the aftermath.
trooper….man youre fuckin crazy, it dont really surpise me, but your honesty does if your for real. thanks for the tip, shit head.
LOL, so funny. The fucked up cops and rude customs officer in US are the main reasons I will reconsider thrice before entering US ever again. But hey, everyone's human, they're prone to psychological stresses due to workplace and environments.
trooper1, Your attitude and disrespect for people is pretty disgusting. You seem to have a false sense of invincibility and security wearing that badge. The problem you will find is that one of these days you will disrespect the wrong person. Being that you are routinely on the streets exposed, you will become a target for someone with a rifle and a scope. Then your comrades can be entertained and amused as they squeegee your remains out of your squad.
Trooper1, you're a fag. If you're a cop, I'm sure it's the Village People kind.
Seriously, how is this news? Car manufacturers have been doing this FOR A VERY LONG TIME! If it's a weak news day LLN, just don't put up any stories.
Trooper is not a cop, he's probably someone pissed at cops because he got a ticket. And this is the fing nastiest story I've ever read on here. Thankfully I'm buying the new Challenger instead of the Camaro, necropheliac retards.
I can see why Saab is doing this. Most of their customers are on the verge of death so Saab needs to engineer their cars to deal with a cadaver behind the wheel
Everyone should donate their bodies in the name of science. Its some scientists only shot at getting laid.
so is that a cadaver or a dummy in the crashed G6 in the picture?
Morbid with no dignity for the dead. I have to rethink my thoughts regarding GM and Saab.
Agreed TugJob.
Lucky stiff?
Some of you may want to reconsider your opinions on the subject.
The Bodies were donated by the previous tenants of said bodies or by the families for whatever reason.
These are bodies used for medical training from testing new surgical techniques to training new surgeons. The use to human bodies to help develop new crash dummies is a fair use.
It is not desecration to use a willing surrendered corpse for testing.
Heck before there were crash test dummies, the Auto industry used a whole hell of a lot more cadavers.
This is not nasty, gross, or somehow evil. This is SCIENCE carried out ethically and morally for the good of those alive and still living.
Grow up or go home, cry babies.
^^ Exactly Blakkarr… it's not like these cadavers were somehow stolen and used… They were donated to science by those who previously occupied those bodies.. again, it beats immediately getting thrown in some hole to decompose and if nothing else, it's because these people wanted their bodies to be used for research, that everyone else can lead safer, healthier lives. I really don't get people's hang-ups about this…
AMGofff: exactly. Some people just have their panties twisted because it's GM doing this. I bet if it was some OTHER company everyone would be praising them for all the good work and so forth. There's a bunch of hypocritical b!tches here.
1c3d0g, you are absolutely right: Benz was prototyping gas chambers in it's trucks during WWII. Before cyclone was used and gas chambers constructed.
Think about that one House episode where he was treating another doctor who injected radioactive materials into babies. The end justifies the means.
I guess they can say……………at least no one was hurt during their crash testing.
Way to desecrate the human body GM……ASSHOLES!
At least Saab isn't selling cars to cadavers, like Honda does. Seriously, how many brain dead people are there who will buy these things?
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LMAO
A f***** up use of cadavers, in my opinion, is the exhibit "Bodies". Those people did not donate themselves to be turned into plastic displays. I'm sure they died in an equally controversial manner.
Trooper1 is not cop. He is one of those small town clowns who rides a bike around town with a bunch of CB antennas on it.
I do know a guy though that works at a funeral home and he sounds just like fag boy trooper1. Very little respect.