Sweetness, I need a new daily driver…

220HP not bad

Great idea on the wait, it will be stale as **** by then, and there will be at least half a dozen better hot hatches on the market. Might as well bring it out for 2015.

This is pretty sweet news, no doubt about it.

The headlights of the Civic in the picture remind me a lot of the airplane inspired headlamps on the current generation Subaru Impreza WRX/STI

I agree with Madcapp, but then it will be old news.

bring out the R32 to canada

If they really want a winner on their hands here in the U.S., they should put the turbo 4-banger in it from the Acura RDX. THAT would be fun.

for 2010 it should be a new gen also the current si has a lsd

Yes, yet another car the Boy Racers (or Ricers) will enjoy installing absurdly loud exhaust systems and Intakes on.
I agree with Z06ified, turbo that beast. Honda’s N/A engines are known for producing absoutly no torque and feel downright slow at low RPM’s (and when I say low RPM’s I mean anything below 6,000!!). Yeah, so the car makes 220 HP, ok, but it only makes like 120lb.ft. of torque and the only way to make a quick launch is to bounce the rev-limiter thirty times then dump the clutch.

Either do it NOW or never. Don’t waste our time with this two or more years waiting BS.

Agree with others here on the release: Either do it now, or it will another TL (too late).

I could wait until 2010 for a Type R hatchback.. but for another sedan variant? Meh.

It may be slow, but it sure is ugly.

^lol

This would have been great news three or four years ago but now I’m not very impressed with the Type R. Front wheel drive + only 220 horsepower from a non-turbo engine = moving on. They will charge $25k+ for it and that’s before dealers mark them up to at least $30k. Not worth it considering it’s market is with people who want a cheap fast car that they can cheaply make faster.

This is too little, too late for far too much. I was hoping Type R’s would get the RDX Turbo engine to be competetive in the new market. Honda will make their sales targets with this, but from the specs mentioned here it sounds very disappointing for a demanding enthusiast buyer.

The UK model is allright, ive looked at it quite a bit. Its a little heavy at 2800 lbs, and could have used the 220 hp motor. 0-62 in 6.6…. thats a little weak for carrying the Type R badge.

yea 2010 is too late… i think id rather see the hatchback here even if it is ugly as sin.

I hate Hondas, but the hatch is hot. The sedan…is pointless. An Accord V6 will spank this for around 2-3 grand less. And that would be very embarrasing for the almost-flagship Type R.

that’s gotta be one of the best NA 4-cylinder engines ever

Another ricer rocket, yay!

I bet a half-finished un-painted body kit gets that 0-60 down to 4 seconds!!

^^ lol

Honda, you suck the salty sweat from my scrotum.
You want people to wait till 2010 for your crappy ass-ugly sedan? You already have the Civic Si sedan here. You have a hot, unique hatch and you are bringing us another crappy looking sedan – basically a racer version of that aborted downs-baby you offend my eyes with now. Hot damn Honda you are pathetic.

Ah ¥8,000,000 and this is all i get? I want that guy in that 2010 GT-R to make him wish he never pulled up next to me at Autozone!

hey look at it this way
better than anything toyotas giving us for the price

dpz4shizzy

Most people I know from the Type-R Forums in the UK focus more on handling than exhaust noise etc.

I’m hoping ricers are not the key Type-R buyers here in the future too.

One friend had a supercharged JDM Type-R and another had hardly any engine mods, but the car would kill any corners with progressive spoons and LSD.

Some people prefer upgrading the beautiful points of having a well-grounded car whereas you will still find ricers an inevitability.

the type r in europe is the same as the Si here in america 200hp so the type r coming should have a better engine…. now why sedan why not coupe besides that pic is the JDM/canadian version which i dont like

Oddly enough I really like the Si & Type-R sedans. Unfortunately the Si is a bit too portly and the Type-R is too little too late. The dealer markups….oops, I meant “market adjustments” will also kill any momentum this car could gain.

Its as easy as… this is one hell of a Hatchbck… BUT… Because its exspected in 2010… I gaurentee there will be better tasteing Hatchs/sedans on the market. And UGLY? This is one Sweet Ride. Its over all design and shape is unique. And Im sorry but where would we be if Dodge or Ford or Kia were in charge of designing all the cars… Who ever Mentioned the V6 Accord. Yeah It would probably take a two and half car lead for a quarter mile Drag. but… If u put an Accord V6 vs. the Civic TypeR on a track. I gaurentee the Type R would “Spank” the accord. it all a matter of prefrence.

Conclusion: This sucks. No one is gonna want this exact car by 2010. There will be so many other Hatchs and sedans at that. Although there will still be a crowd for the TypeR(TypeR is a Ricers Fantasy).

for the 23k or 24k that it’ll cost, I’ll buy a 25k BMW 128i

Honda products have a 4 year cycle. The Civic was new in 06, so wouldn’t the 2010 be the next Civic? That would mean the the U.S. would get the Type R right out of the block.

Hmmm, I think I’d rather have and R32 or chipped GTI. Not a big fan of this generation Civic. Looks like it was designed by a panel of 10 yr old Trekkies.

@buenos: I was thinking the exact same thing.

with the Mazdaspeed 3, the VW GTI, WRX, and supposed turbo Lancer (non evo), this car will do nothing for Honda, and possibly weaken the ‘type-r’ badge… The quick compacts right now are around around 250 hp. By 2010 could be closer to 300hp. Honda is going to have to figure out a way to get the “type r’s” closer to 250 hp at least, if not 300. It’s not going to be easy though, cause Type-R’s are always naturally aspirated.

Honda should make a coupe TYPE-R and release it ASAP… OR bring the Hatch over… I agree that civic sedan with a Type-R just seems ricer.

Chauncy – they’d need a bigger engine! 2.2 VTEC

Why do we need a type-r anyways. The civic si makes 23 less horsepower. Thats i/h/e and a trip to hondata before the si makes more power. Not to mention that the type-r is gonna have its price marked up by dealerships left and right. The si was being sold for 2-3k over msrp. The honda dealerships could tack on the same amount, probably more because of the fact every boy racer with a coffee can out the rear bumper has put “type-r” on their trunklid. I’ve seen honda’s, nissan’s and toyota’s all with “type-r” all over.

And why spend 26 grand for an over-priced car. It’s FWD and makes less power then all it’s competitors. For that price you could just go up to an sti, evo, or z and have way more fun.

buenos — since the mid-1990s, Honda has switched to a 5-year cycle for their volume cars.. Accord was 1977, 1982, 1986, 1990, 1994, 1998, 2003 and a new model expected for 2008. Civic was 1973, 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2001 and 2006, so expect the next model in 2011. Honda has also altered their usual 2-year facelift schedule, with the (US) Accord receiving slightly revised sedan taillights in year 2 (2005) and then all-new fasciae and rear end the third year (2006). Civic followed the same pattern with new taillights in 2003 and a heavier facelift in 2004.

In regards to that comment about 250whp, it was naturally aspirated. I forgot to mention it.

Here’s what would make me pay attention to a Civic Type R, since I am really not interested in Honda’s FWD performance philosophy any longer:

250 horsepower, 8000-9000rpm redline
rear wheel drive
fully independent double wishbone suspension
adapted or engineered into a next-generation Civic body weighing 2800lbs therebouts.

Pure and simple. I am aware of Honda’s history in many forms of racing in addition to compaigning their production cars. I just want to see more variants on the S2000 drive layout and suspension philosophy in their “Si” and “Type R” vehicles.

Why does the US market Civic look so bland, is that really what buyers want over there?

europeperspective, I’m American and yes, I think we do like the sedan over here. I don’t really care much for the front, however. What I DO NOT like is our Civic coupe. I like the rear suspension we get but I like the look of your hatch version best of all.

I don’t understand why they don’t use that front end in all markets. They get the bland US-market version front end in Arabia as well – just seems like a big missed opportunity

europerspective, Honda really only cares about selling to whatever demographic their focus groups tell them to, no matter how much profit they reap because of the hyoe created by Honda lovers and enthusiasts.

At least in the USA, they have consistently bland styling and so-so performance for silly money in their “sporty” cars. I am still driving my first Honda and I plan to make it my last. The reliability and gas mileage doesn’t matter to me after a point when I’m bored with a car that tries to be more than it actually is.

The irony is that I already know Honda keeps building the equivalent of the same “sporty” front-drive coupe every five years or so with nearly the same performance in every iteration. Once you’ve driven one bland Honda you’ve probably driven them all with the exception of the NSX and S2000 which were freak accidents spaced ten years apart.

Bland styling, low performance, average gas mileage in respective classes and inferior drivetrain layouts. Unless it really looks like a bargain to you or you simply aren’t aware of what makes a good car, why buy a Honda these days?

Your mileage may vary in Europe.