Comments on: Report: Porsche profits $28,000 per car http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:04:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: RaineMan http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-589990 RaineMan Sat, 01 Jan 2011 17:27:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-589990 Thus why you buy used. It's pretty easy to find the lower end models like Boxsters, Caymans and base 911s on the used market with low miles. Let the first owner take the massive depreciation hit. Thus why you buy used. It’s pretty easy to find the lower end models like Boxsters, Caymans and base 911s on the used market with low miles. Let the first owner take the massive depreciation hit.

]]> By: gritsandeggs http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-589989 gritsandeggs Sat, 01 Jan 2011 14:35:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-589989 'Overpriced' is and understatement. That's outlandish. If you try to talk 'em down $10,000, there's always someone willing to pay the actual price. They found the sweet spot between more sales & lower price and fewer sales w/higher price. Sorry, but we need regulation here. ‘Overpriced’ is and understatement. That’s outlandish. If you try to talk ‘em down $10,000, there’s always someone willing to pay the actual price. They found the sweet spot between more sales & lower price and fewer sales w/higher price. Sorry, but we need regulation here.

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-463956 A4 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:22:51 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-463956 Can't you get all the black plastic you'll ever need with a Pontiac Aztek? Can’t you get all the black plastic you’ll ever need with a Pontiac Aztek?

]]> By: J.A.N.E. http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-297578 J.A.N.E. Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:01:40 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-297578 I drive Porsche because of the German feel( black plastic,VDO gauges,and some other nifty features).The prestige is not part of it for me. I drive Porsche because of the German feel( black plastic,VDO gauges,and some other nifty features).The prestige is not part of it for me.

]]> By: 79TA http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-296083 79TA Thu, 01 Feb 2007 04:15:21 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-296083 Porsche is like Hollister. You needlessly pay extra for nothing more than a brand. This also reminds me of the "ginsu knife effect" where raising something's price makes the public assume its a better product. The majority of Porsches are driven by dumb yuppies who want the prestige but can't afford the higher spec versions. Porsches are good cars. However, the fair ver poorly in the performance per dollar category. Porsche is like Hollister. You needlessly pay extra for nothing more than a brand.

This also reminds me of the “ginsu knife effect” where raising something’s price makes the public assume its a better product. The majority of Porsches are driven by dumb yuppies who want the prestige but can’t afford the higher spec versions.

Porsches are good cars. However, the fair ver poorly in the performance per dollar category.

]]> By: gumball http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-295253 gumball Sat, 27 Jan 2007 04:52:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-295253 What a dirty little air head you have shaver, What i meant by stamina is porsche wouldn't brake down or diminish as often as a corvette would when it is push to its limits. What a dirty little air head you have shaver,

What i meant by stamina is porsche wouldn’t brake down or diminish as often as a corvette would when it is push to its limits.

]]> By: shaver http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-295168 shaver Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:27:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-295168 10 second over boost thats some stamina 10 second over boost thats some stamina

]]> By: Andre Neves http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-295093 Andre Neves Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:25:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-295093 BTW, the PCM with the bar graph display I was talking about... http://www.auto123.com/ArtImages/43147/inline_09.jpg BTW, the PCM with the bar graph display I was talking about…
http://www.auto123.com/ArtImages/43147/inline_09.jpg

]]> By: Andre Neves http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-295092 Andre Neves Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:24:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-295092 Shaver, If by the "dash mounted stop watch" you mean the "chrono package", it does a whole lot than you make it sound. The Chrono package includes a very accurate stop watch on your dashboard. By controlling it with a lever on the bottom left of the steering column, you can start, stop, & start another lap. All your information is displayed in the PCM screen and you have the ability to save it. So if you ever want to compare old times with new times, you can. You can also view your lap times & breaks(pit stops)in the form of a bar graph. The sport chrono also gives you a "Sport" button with will remap your ECU(computer) and adjust your air/fuel levels, throttle input, rev limit, so you get more torque especially on lower RPM range. On Tiptronic transmissions, when activated, will prevent the transmission to upshift at high RPM when in the manual mode. On the Turbo model the Chrono package is a must. Activating the sport button will give you an "over-boost" feature which lasts for 10 seconds. I can't remember off the top of my head how much more the Psi/Bar is increased. Sport Chrono will also alter how much effect the PSM(Porsche Stability Managment) has on the car when activated. There is alot more that it does that I could go into, but im pretty sure you get the idea. Shaver,
If by the “dash mounted stop watch” you mean the “chrono package”, it does a whole lot than you make it sound.
The Chrono package includes a very accurate stop watch on your dashboard. By controlling it with a lever on the bottom left of the steering column, you can start, stop, & start another lap. All your information is displayed in the PCM screen and you have the ability to save it. So if you ever want to compare old times with new times, you can. You can also view your lap times & breaks(pit stops)in the form of a bar graph.
The sport chrono also gives you a “Sport” button with will remap your ECU(computer) and adjust your air/fuel levels, throttle input, rev limit, so you get more torque especially on lower RPM range.
On Tiptronic transmissions, when activated, will prevent the transmission to upshift at high RPM when in the manual mode.
On the Turbo model the Chrono package is a must. Activating the sport button will give you an “over-boost” feature which lasts for 10 seconds. I can’t remember off the top of my head how much more the Psi/Bar is increased.
Sport Chrono will also alter how much effect the PSM(Porsche Stability Managment) has on the car when activated.
There is alot more that it does that I could go into, but im pretty sure you get the idea.

]]> By: shaver http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-295070 shaver Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:36:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-295070 Better stamina? What are you doing with your porsche? I knew Corvette interiors aren't nearly up to Porsche standards, but did not realize Corvettes had a pre-ejaculation issue. Better stamina? What are you doing with your porsche? I knew Corvette interiors aren’t nearly up to Porsche standards, but did not realize Corvettes had a pre-ejaculation issue.

]]> By: shaver http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-295068 shaver Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:29:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-295068 Is it that hard to make $100,000.00 car that is also beautiful. And by not a bargain I mean paying $1200.00 for a $200.00 dash mounted stop watch seems, well, not so smart. I still love the way they drive but why cant they be pretty too. Is it that hard to make $100,000.00 car that is also beautiful. And by not a bargain I mean paying $1200.00 for a $200.00 dash mounted stop watch seems, well, not so smart. I still love the way they drive but why cant they be pretty too.

]]> By: gumball http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-295052 gumball Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:41:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-295052 Well put Andre, How is a car priced by its power and speed, Porsche are not ment to be as powerful as lets say a corvette but porsche has better stability, stamina, handling, grip and most definetly feel. Well put Andre,

How is a car priced by its power and speed, Porsche are not ment to be as powerful as lets say a corvette but porsche has better stability, stamina, handling, grip and most definetly feel.

]]> By: Andre Neves http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294869 Andre Neves Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:58:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294869 Shaver, we didn't realize that it didn't stack up well on your list of dream car list. We are all sorry. Anyway, I see you mentioned that they aren't as beautiful as the true exotics. I have no idea what you consider a "true exotic". Do you mean something along the lines of a Lamborghini or Ferrari? Maybe an Aston Martin? But I will agree with you that most exotics look better. My personal favorites are Ferrari's F430 & Lamborghini's Murcielago. I have a close friend who owns a '00 Diablo roadster & a recently aquired Murcielago roadster. They are both pleasant to look at, especially when parked together in his garage. But I will say that Porsche doesn't make exotics. If they wanted to make cars that could only be driven every so often, which look like they come from the future yeilding the most advanced technology & materials known to man they could. And they have. There was the 959, the GT1, & the now discontinued Carrera GT. Then you say that "they aren't a bargain for there performance". Now im confused because your either going to have an "Exotic" or a bargain performance car. You can't have both because if you make a performance car at a low price, then that means people will buy many of them and it won't be as exotic anymore. And for the record, models like the 911 Turbo & GT3 have been know to out-accelerate, out-handle, & just basically out perform most "exotics" priced twice as much. Shaver, we didn’t realize that it didn’t stack up well on your list of dream car list. We are all sorry.

Anyway, I see you mentioned that they aren’t as beautiful as the true exotics. I have no idea what you consider a “true exotic”. Do you mean something along the lines of a Lamborghini or Ferrari? Maybe an Aston Martin? But I will agree with you that most exotics look better. My personal favorites are Ferrari’s F430 & Lamborghini’s Murcielago. I have a close friend who owns a ’00 Diablo roadster & a recently aquired Murcielago roadster. They are both pleasant to look at, especially when parked together in his garage.
But I will say that Porsche doesn’t make exotics. If they wanted to make cars that could only be driven every so often, which look like they come from the future yeilding the most advanced technology & materials known to man they could. And they have. There was the 959, the GT1, & the now discontinued Carrera GT.
Then you say that “they aren’t a bargain for there performance”. Now im confused because your either going to have an “Exotic” or a bargain performance car. You can’t have both because if you make a performance car at a low price, then that means people will buy many of them and it won’t be as exotic anymore.

And for the record, models like the 911 Turbo & GT3 have been know to out-accelerate, out-handle, & just basically out perform most “exotics” priced twice as much.

]]> By: shaver http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294862 shaver Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:28:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294862 What insult are you talking about, I said they are bad ass sports cars. But they are not above criticism, they are not as beautiful as the true exotics, and they aren't a bargain for there performance. Porsche is still on my short list of money is no object dream cars. Carrera is 6th on my list, GT3 is about 9th. What insult are you talking about, I said they are bad ass sports cars. But they are not above criticism, they are not as beautiful as the true exotics, and they aren’t a bargain for there performance. Porsche is still on my short list of money is no object dream cars. Carrera is 6th on my list, GT3 is about 9th.

]]> By: gumball http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294781 gumball Thu, 25 Jan 2007 03:01:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294781 I bet if you went up to any person who owns a brand new porsche and tell them they are over priced, unreliable and bad quality, they would turn around and laugh at you and drive off into the sunset. making insults would only make you look even worse. Insulting one of the best car manufacturers in the world makes every other american car look even worse. I bet if you went up to any person who owns a brand new porsche and tell them they are over priced, unreliable and bad quality, they would turn around and laugh at you and drive off into the sunset.

making insults would only make you look even worse. Insulting one of the best car manufacturers in the world makes every other american car look even worse.

]]> By: Ricardo Head http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294773 Ricardo Head Thu, 25 Jan 2007 02:37:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294773 Deutsche Weiber stinken wie die Pest weil sie kaum duschen, sind aber dafür einfach zu ficken und steigen schnell ins Bett. Schlampen sind 'ne deutsche Tradition wie Bratwürste, Bier, Kälte, Faulheit und Staatsanhängigkeit. Deantj hat recht .... ist ein Land voller Arschlöcher. Deutsche Weiber stinken wie die Pest weil sie kaum duschen, sind aber dafür einfach zu ficken und steigen schnell ins Bett. Schlampen sind ‘ne deutsche Tradition wie Bratwürste, Bier, Kälte, Faulheit und Staatsanhängigkeit. Deantj hat recht …. ist ein Land voller Arschlöcher.

]]> By: Veda http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294760 Veda Thu, 25 Jan 2007 01:45:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294760 Correct shaver, they had the market for themselves all these times. People talk about Vettes and other performance cars around that price but nothing comes close to the combination of class and performance that Porsche offers. Instead of whining here, they should try to find its formula and make some $. Correct shaver, they had the market for themselves all these times. People talk about Vettes and other performance cars around that price but nothing comes close to the combination of class and performance that Porsche offers. Instead of whining here, they should try to find its formula and make some $.

]]> By: shaver http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294717 shaver Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:08:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294717 Andre Neves is a name calling pie whole. But this pie whole does know his Porsche propaganda, up and down. Too my point, does Porsche make bad ass sports cars? Hell yeah. But this is a list of the many downsides. There are less expensive, faster cars, many of them. Quality control is not a porsche strong point. Paying that kind of money for a car that you will see someone else driving everday is not exclusive or cool. There styling is stagnant, some call it classic, some call it an upside down bath tub. I personally like it. The only reason that I can summize that there profits are so high has to do with the niche market they dominate. Think about it, what other pure sports car players are there in the $90,000 to $150,000 range. You can't touch a Ferrari, Lambo, Saleen, or Ford GT for under $200,000. That is a wide $60,000 range that they completely dominate. Andre Neves is a name calling pie whole. But this pie whole does know his Porsche propaganda, up and down. Too my point, does Porsche make bad ass sports cars? Hell yeah. But this is a list of the many downsides.
There are less expensive, faster cars, many of them.
Quality control is not a porsche strong point.
Paying that kind of money for a car that you will see someone else driving everday is not exclusive or cool.
There styling is stagnant, some call it classic, some call it an upside down bath tub. I personally like it.
The only reason that I can summize that there profits are so high has to do with the niche market they dominate. Think about it, what other pure sports car players are there in the $90,000 to $150,000 range. You can’t touch a Ferrari, Lambo, Saleen, or Ford GT for under $200,000. That is a wide $60,000 range that they completely dominate.

]]> By: Andre Neves http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294654 Andre Neves Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:52:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294654 shiftright, You are very ignorant. shiftright,
You are very ignorant.

]]> By: shiftright http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294653 shiftright Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:40:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294653 $ 28,000 profit per car, eh! Well, I am sure glad I never have been stupid enough to buy a Porsche and now I am even more certain not to be gouged by the manufacturer or the dealer of this overpriced make. I am not very fond of cars with their engines hanging off behind the rear axle. I also do not want to see myself coming and going a dozen times every time I go for a ride. With Porsche, there is no exclusivity. Also with Porsche, the reliability is terrible. $ 28,000 profit per car, eh! Well, I am sure glad I never have been stupid enough to buy a Porsche and now I am even more certain not to be gouged by the manufacturer or the dealer of this overpriced make.

I am not very fond of cars with their engines hanging off behind the rear axle. I also do not want to see myself coming and going a dozen times every time I go for a ride. With Porsche, there is no exclusivity.
Also with Porsche, the reliability is terrible.

]]> By: GMnumberone4ever http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294646 GMnumberone4ever Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:55:38 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294646 It's a sad day when people spend that much money on a POS German, unreliable, low quality wreck when they could've bought a Vette in the first place. People prefer to spend more money on something that isn't even on the same level, I don;t get it. People are that stupid I guess. It’s a sad day when people spend that much money on a POS German, unreliable, low quality wreck when they could’ve bought a Vette in the first place. People prefer to spend more money on something that isn’t even on the same level, I don;t get it.

People are that stupid I guess.

]]> By: CTS DRIVER http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294638 CTS DRIVER Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:26:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294638 And just because I pay for them it doesn't mean you have to do the same! With all of this… things written above I could write for four days, but it's veeeeery late (in fact it's almost early in the morning) and I have to sleep a little. Sorry for my English. Comment by AdibzumbaAbihganulah, posted on dude your english is great, no need to apologize at all, you type better english than i do for sure. And just because I pay for them it doesn’t mean you have to do the same!
With all of this… things written above I could write for four days, but it’s veeeeery late (in fact it’s almost early in the morning) and I have to sleep a little.
Sorry for my English.

Comment by AdibzumbaAbihganulah, posted on

dude your english is great, no need to apologize at all, you type better english than i do for sure.

]]> By: moogleii http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294628 moogleii Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:39:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294628 Thank you Jason. Thank you Jason.

]]> By: meanpants555 http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294607 meanpants555 Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:51:05 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294607 My news writing professor in my seventh year of college hammered into our wooly skulls that poor grammar and language usage undermines the source. My news writing professor in my seventh year of college hammered into our wooly skulls that poor grammar and language usage undermines the source.

]]> By: meanpants555 http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294606 meanpants555 Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:49:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294606 Well according to Jason's link the number is distorted, I read it, but was unable to comprehend since it involved numbers, which I don't do. Well according to Jason’s link the number is distorted, I read it, but was unable to comprehend since it involved numbers, which I don’t do.

]]> By: gumball http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294605 gumball Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:14:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294605 I don't no why people are critisizing porsche, just because they make good cars that they spend heeps of time, money and experience to perfect a car that has been revolutionised for around the past forty years are being critisized for their hefty price, I bet if you were wealthy you wouldn't complain about the price. I love porsche i think they are the most down to earth standard of a near perfect car. Just because the have a name doesn't mean u have to be very negative, maybe because ur jealouse. If GM showed up on the news showing that they have turned up a hugh average profit of all thier vast models then I'd be happy for them that they could achieve that, only an idiot would critisize something that is vastly succesful. I don’t no why people are critisizing porsche, just because they make good cars that they spend heeps of time, money and experience to perfect a car that has been revolutionised for around the past forty years are being critisized for their hefty price, I bet if you were wealthy you wouldn’t complain about the price.

I love porsche i think they are the most down to earth standard of a near perfect car. Just because the have a name doesn’t mean u have to be very negative, maybe because ur jealouse.

If GM showed up on the news showing that they have turned up a hugh average profit of all thier vast models then I’d be happy for them that they could achieve that,

only an idiot would critisize something that is vastly succesful.

]]> By: S4 Quattro http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294602 S4 Quattro Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:00:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294602 They must have some genious business scheme. They must have some genious business scheme.

]]> By: Jason http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294598 Jason Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:13:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294598 PORSCHE'S REPLY : http://www.porsche.com/usa/aboutporsche/pressreleases/pag/?pool=international-de&id=2007-01-23 PORSCHE’S REPLY
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http://www.porsche.com/usa/aboutporsche/pressreleases/pag/?pool=international-de&id=2007-01-23

]]> By: WonbyOne http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294586 WonbyOne Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:11:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294586 I would suppose that anyone with a college level business course would know that the Porsche 'accountants' did not decide to sell each individual vehicle for $28k over its production cost. No doub the profit level for each car, even similar models with different option packages will vary in profit levels. Combine this with the total business operation, and the company profit turns out to be about $28k per car. Congratulations to them. I would very much like to have some stock. I would suppose that anyone with a college level business course would know that the Porsche ‘accountants’ did not decide to sell each individual vehicle for $28k over its production cost. No doub the profit level for each car, even similar models with different option packages will vary in profit levels. Combine this with the total business operation, and the company profit turns out to be about $28k per car.
Congratulations to them. I would very much like to have some stock.

]]> By: chuckles http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294569 chuckles Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:21:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294569 p.s. Ricardo, I guess it would depend on what the fraulein looks like...LOL... p.s. Ricardo, I guess it would depend on what the fraulein looks like…LOL…

]]> By: chuckles http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294568 chuckles Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:16:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294568 It never ceases to amaze me, I don't know why, that every time the discussion of profit margin on vehicles comes up it starts and ends with a bunch of whiney, obscenity filled remarks. Come on guys grow up. Mark-up, profit, call it what you will. Profit is not a dirty word. No business would exist without profit. Porsche manages thier product portfolio well and the price and value meets the demand of those who will pay it. Good for them. If the price were too high, no one would buy them. If it were too low it depreciates the market for the car. It's supply and demand economics folks. Period. End of story. It never ceases to amaze me, I don’t know why, that every time the discussion of profit margin on vehicles comes up it starts and ends with a bunch of whiney, obscenity filled remarks. Come on guys grow up.

Mark-up, profit, call it what you will. Profit is not a dirty word. No business would exist without profit.

Porsche manages thier product portfolio well and the price and value meets the demand of those who will pay it. Good for them. If the price were too high, no one would buy them. If it were too low it depreciates the market for the car. It’s supply and demand economics folks.

Period. End of story.

]]> By: AdibzumbaAbihganulah http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294555 AdibzumbaAbihganulah Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:49:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294555 People, people, people... I don't know why am I wasting my time with this, but I am very disappointed with you all (you may say: AND YOU ARE...- good point; not so educated though). I too think you all need some hugs. Some of you seemed so open minded few days ago, and now this... thing above. And being an Italian guy, I'm afraid to write down here because half of you are certainly English-language-PhD's. So my point here, in this English-language-car forum, is simple. We just can't bind our opinions with our personal tastes. For example: I know VW cars are far, faaaar from perfection; but I simply LOVE them. Of course Porsches are worth the price. If they weren't nobody would buy. So you have the money and don't want a Porsche? DON'T BUY IT! It's not just about quality and/or usability (not sure about this word), it's about passion too. And when we talk about quality, how do we measure that? We can ask the factories suppliers. For example: a few years ago I asked an employee from a VW and Renault supplier if there were any differences between materials used on dashboards and door panels ordered by the two brands, and she said yes, there was a significant gap between the costs. VW directed were more expensive than the others. But this doesn't mean VW cars are always better. It means VW cars are more expensive. And just because I pay for them it doesn't mean you have to do the same! With all of this... things written above I could write for four days, but it's veeeeery late (in fact it's almost early in the morning) and I have to sleep a little. Sorry for my English. People, people, people… I don’t know why am I wasting my time with this, but I am very disappointed with you all (you may say: AND YOU ARE…- good point; not so educated though). I too think you all need some hugs. Some of you seemed so open minded few days ago, and now this… thing above. And being an Italian guy, I’m afraid to write down here because half of you are certainly English-language-PhD’s.
So my point here, in this English-language-car forum, is simple. We just can’t bind our opinions with our personal tastes. For example: I know VW cars are far, faaaar from perfection; but I simply LOVE them. Of course Porsches are worth the price. If they weren’t nobody would buy. So you have the money and don’t want a Porsche? DON’T BUY IT! It’s not just about quality and/or usability (not sure about this word), it’s about passion too. And when we talk about quality, how do we measure that? We can ask the factories suppliers. For example: a few years ago I asked an employee from a VW and Renault supplier if there were any differences between materials used on dashboards and door panels ordered by the two brands, and she said yes, there was a significant gap between the costs. VW directed were more expensive than the others. But this doesn’t mean VW cars are always better. It means VW cars are more expensive. And just because I pay for them it doesn’t mean you have to do the same!
With all of this… things written above I could write for four days, but it’s veeeeery late (in fact it’s almost early in the morning) and I have to sleep a little.
Sorry for my English.

]]> By: sampson http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294553 sampson Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:32:30 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294553 Fatstrat, do you know something we don't? Do you have an alternate explanation? Links to back up this explanation? The article we are discussing, explains that Porsche averages 28k PROFIT per car... If "mark-up" is the term confusing you, please feel free to substitute another synonym... Fatstrat,

do you know something we don’t? Do you have an alternate explanation? Links to back up this explanation? The article we are discussing, explains that Porsche averages 28k PROFIT per car… If “mark-up” is the term confusing you, please feel free to substitute another synonym…

]]> By: Andre Neves http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294545 Andre Neves Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:39:31 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294545 Fatstrat, Yeah, your talking about someone who tried to correct my on the usage of the word "your & you're". LoL Fatstrat,
Yeah, your talking about someone who tried to correct my on the usage of the word “your & you’re”. LoL

]]> By: Fatstrat http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294538 Fatstrat Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:16:51 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294538 Sampson, if you think this article means that Porsche is 'marking up their cars $28k' then you sir are far below plant life on the intelligence scale, pretty close to 'athiest' in fact. I really dont think you are that stupid. Sampson, if you think this article means that Porsche is ‘marking up their cars $28k’ then you sir are far below plant life on the intelligence scale, pretty close to ‘athiest’ in fact.
I really dont think you are that stupid.

]]> By: CTS DRIVER http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294494 CTS DRIVER Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:18:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294494 that sure is a good looking little porsche in the picture above, looks excellent in red. that sure is a good looking little porsche in the picture above, looks excellent in red.

]]> By: Z06ified http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294486 Z06ified Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:46:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294486 Porsche's profit success is largely predicated on American automotive ignorance and materialistic insecurities. Porsche’s profit success is largely predicated on American automotive ignorance and materialistic insecurities.

]]> By: meanpants555 http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294480 meanpants555 Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:33:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294480 Word Shariff, you are wise beyond your years. I wish I thought of your response, but I did not: I am a low IQ plant. Word Shariff, you are wise beyond your years. I wish I thought of your response, but I did not: I am a low IQ plant.

]]> By: Sharif http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294475 Sharif Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:23:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294475 everyone on this fukin site is a moron especially that GM propaganda guy. When was the last time Porsche did something drastic.....thinking....................thinking...............still thinking...............i know, never. Porsche built a damn near perfect car and all they do know is adjust details. They practically spend no money on R&D and they spend no money on advertising. For everyone's information R&D and advertising for car manufacturers is usually they two largest expenses. When was the last time Porsche spent tons of money to create bullshit concepts that will never be produced or looked at again, never. They don't mark-up their prices by 28,000, they cut down their costs by 28,000. Other companies are are doing heavy R&D on diesel, electric, solar, and hydrogen but not Porsche. Porsche takes their profits and invests it into profitable companies that are doing promising research such as VW AG. Can anyone think of a more appropriate car. Seriously, and fast car with intense handling, amazing reliability, luxury everything (inside and out), and can be driven at least 4-5 times a week. With what i just asked for pretty much eliminated every competitor. Only cars that i can still think of is the Audi RS 4, the M6, the Lamborghini Gallardo, the CLS, and Aston Martin. All of which in a very curvy track can't keep up. everyone on this fukin site is a moron especially that GM propaganda guy. When was the last time Porsche did something drastic…..thinking………………..thinking……………still thinking……………i know, never. Porsche built a damn near perfect car and all they do know is adjust details. They practically spend no money on R&D and they spend no money on advertising. For everyone’s information R&D and advertising for car manufacturers is usually they two largest expenses. When was the last time Porsche spent tons of money to create bullshit concepts that will never be produced or looked at again, never. They don’t mark-up their prices by 28,000, they cut down their costs by 28,000. Other companies are are doing heavy R&D on diesel, electric, solar, and hydrogen but not Porsche. Porsche takes their profits and invests it into profitable companies that are doing promising research such as VW AG. Can anyone think of a more appropriate car. Seriously, and fast car with intense handling, amazing reliability, luxury everything (inside and out), and can be driven at least 4-5 times a week. With what i just asked for pretty much eliminated every competitor. Only cars that i can still think of is the Audi RS 4, the M6, the Lamborghini Gallardo, the CLS, and Aston Martin. All of which in a very curvy track can’t keep up.

]]> By: Kenny W http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294474 Kenny W Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:20:15 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294474 Andre Neves, You continually attack people as opposed to their ideas and that shows that your maturity is lacking, despite your age. I for one have no problem with a company being successful and applaud Porsche for being able to pull in such a profit. If you knew me you'd know that I've said it about many vehicles, including the NSX, Enzo, A3, G-Wagon, and more....they're all over priced. If you weren't so biased in favor of Porsche you'd be able to understand why so many agree. Porsche makes good cars, but they're not the best, not at their price point. Andre Neves,
You continually attack people as opposed to their ideas and that shows that your maturity is lacking, despite your age. I for one have no problem with a company being successful and applaud Porsche for being able to pull in such a profit. If you knew me you’d know that I’ve said it about many vehicles, including the NSX, Enzo, A3, G-Wagon, and more….they’re all over priced. If you weren’t so biased in favor of Porsche you’d be able to understand why so many agree. Porsche makes good cars, but they’re not the best, not at their price point.

]]> By: deutschetouring1337 http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294473 deutschetouring1337 Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:13:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294473 HAHA I agree with Maximus now that you know they have inflated pricing go make a deal on a caymann and turbocharge it. HAHA I agree with Maximus now that you know they have inflated pricing go make a deal on a caymann and turbocharge it.

]]> By: Andre Neves http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294472 Andre Neves Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:04:35 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294472 Sampson, If you think they make "desginer" cars, it just shows how much you actually know about cars. Your ignorant and very misinformed. Let me ask you something. Do you own any jewelery? Many people don't know, but if any of you here are in the Jewelery business, you'll know what im talking about when I say that the Jewelery business has the most profit of any other martet in the world. Especially gold and silver. Does anyone honestly think a $5-10K diamond engagement ring actually costs that much to produce? Of course not, just ask the jeweler, im sure he can knock off $2-3K for you because your a good customer. Wake up people, open your eyes. It is just Business. It just so happens that there are many other hidden profits you don't see or hear about all over the world. You name it, Cameras, TVs(LCD), computers, etc. Sampson,
If you think they make “desginer” cars, it just shows how much you actually know about cars. Your ignorant and very misinformed.
Let me ask you something. Do you own any jewelery?
Many people don’t know, but if any of you here are in the Jewelery business, you’ll know what im talking about when I say that the Jewelery business has the most profit of any other martet in the world. Especially gold and silver. Does anyone honestly think a $5-10K diamond engagement ring actually costs that much to produce? Of course not, just ask the jeweler, im sure he can knock off $2-3K for you because your a good customer.
Wake up people, open your eyes. It is just Business. It just so happens that there are many other hidden profits you don’t see or hear about all over the world. You name it, Cameras, TVs(LCD), computers, etc.

]]> By: sampson http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294470 sampson Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:52:30 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294470 """"Its simple Andre, most of the posters here have an IQ below plant life. They cant begin to understand"""" Yeah what a difficult concept... Porsche marks up their prices by 28k on average... YOU'RE GETTING RIPPED OFF! It's a designer car... just like diesel jeans and rolex watches. Separates the middle class from the upper. People pay extra to feel exclusive...I'm sure many people thought they might be paying a little extra just for the name, but now they know it's closer to $30K. It probably costs Porsche to make the Boxter the same that it cost BMW to make the 3 series... Porsche just tacks on the extra 28K where BMW only tacks on 5K “”"”Its simple Andre, most of the posters here have an IQ below plant life. They cant begin to understand”"”"

Yeah what a difficult concept… Porsche marks up their prices by 28k on average… YOU’RE GETTING RIPPED OFF!

It’s a designer car… just like diesel jeans and rolex watches. Separates the middle class from the upper. People pay extra to feel exclusive…I’m sure many people thought they might be paying a little extra just for the name, but now they know it’s closer to $30K. It probably costs Porsche to make the Boxter the same that it cost BMW to make the 3 series… Porsche just tacks on the extra 28K where BMW only tacks on 5K

]]> By: Martin http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294469 Martin Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:50:34 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294469 Considering Porsche's invoice pricing is 15% less than MSRP, it is inaccurate to assert that Porsche makes $28k per vehicle. Considering Porsche’s invoice pricing is 15% less than MSRP, it is inaccurate to assert that Porsche makes $28k per vehicle.

]]> By: Andre Neves http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html#comment-294465 Andre Neves Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:35:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/#comment-294465 MyGodBeatsYourGod, I've said it a couple times already. With comments and a username like that, people just aren't going to take you seriously. Your an idiot. MyGodBeatsYourGod,
I’ve said it a couple times already. With comments and a username like that, people just aren’t going to take you seriously. Your an idiot.

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