JAP CARS SUCK… THEY NOW HAVE MORE PROBLEMS THAN AMERICAN CARS..JAP CARS USE TO BE GOOD BUT QUALITY IS GOING DOWN.

AND THE FUSION IS BETTER THAN CAMERY, ACCORD, ETC

jamhole538,
Shut up please
Anyway, so much for being “made in Japan”.

Oh no. Here we go again.

Toyota is finally putting their money where their mouth is. If they want to be “American” then they need to start making their cars here.

Toyota will never be an American company until the money comes to America. So stop saying their American just because they have plants here and employ americans. That’s like saying illigal imigrants are americans.

Right on jamhole! People are waking up across the country. Everyone knows that Toyota quality doesn’t hold a candle to domestics like GM.

Anyway, so much for being “made in Japan”.

Comment by Andre Neves, posted on January12 at 1:20 pm

Tell that to my neighbor who’s brand new Camry choked up its third transmission and his Corolla caught fire due to a faulty wiper motor. He told me wishes he had bought GM like I do so that he wouldn’t have to deal with anymore Toyota bull****.

It makes sense to build them where you sell them.

Is it not just a little suspicious how many car fires seem to happen around GMnumberblahblahblah?

Good gawd…the mindless propaganda—from both sides is a bit much. America could have been in the same position, but chose other directions.

You’d be surprised by the amount of car fires I see on the road. Mostly Toyotas, BMW’s, Mazdas and Fords. Every now and then I come across a few Audi’s and VW’s but I rarely see those brands because nobody really buys them. Back in Michigan, where I am from, import cars that have caught fire are usually intentional from either vandals or disgruntled owners who just want the insurance money so they can go buy one of the new GM offereings. You’d be amazed the amount of new Saturn Auras, Pontiac G6’s, Impalas, Lucernes, Lacrosses and 900 utes have cropped up around my area. They are everywhere. Can’t say the same for Toyotas.

This GM guy is hilarious.

Jamhole’s right.

I have only seen one vehicle actually on fire it was here in Texas, it was a Honda. But I remember seeing a ‘99-ish style Malibu at a body shop I worked at that was torched. And of course my 91 S10 went up in flames, but that was my fault for welding with out a fire extinguisher. I miss that truck, had over 175k miles with no problems other than rust, 2.8L with a 5 speed.

There must be something in the air up in michigan, it seems like alot of cars are being effected by spontaneous combustion …..LOL

lol – GM#1 is a lightning rod for problems with other peoples cars. every where he goes somebody’s car is catching fire or breaking down. Note that everyone around him has an import. I thought you said no one drives uimports in Michigan?

Oh well at least displaced UAW workers may be able to get jobs.

Are you a natzi GM? you going around and exterminating the “enemy” ?

Must be all those Canadian-built GMs never catch fire while all the USA & Japan built Camry’s and Accords do. Those Cannucks build ‘em right, I tell ya. The Mexicans too!

Like I said, imports are a dying breed here and across Michigan. I gave examples of this theory above. People are fed up with low quality, unreliable cheapass pieces of ****. They want real cars, and GM is going to give it to them. GM reigns at the top of JD powers studys for years now, Buick and Cadillac always on top, Pontiac, Chevy and GMC follow closely behind. Where those precious imports? At the bottom of course.

Now Toyota is going to throw more money into this country? This reeks of desperation on their part. They can’t even survive selling the **** that they build now, how are they going to be when they have 5 more plants worth?

Look around you guys, the wave known as “The American Revolution” is starting to hit areas across the country. Footholds that imports have had in the NorthEast, the Southest, DC, California, Northwest are all crumbling. There are many dealers who are going out of business because they can’t sell the product. Go to places like Wayne county, Macomb, Kent, Oakland in Michigan and import dealers are dropping like flies there, being replaced by gorgeous new GM dealers. I tell you the foot traffic in those places have grown 10 fold, before the new GM dealers came in, they were ghost towns.

Even here in SanDiego, where I am staying on business, there is a dealer across the street that has rows and rows of Camrys, RAVs, Highlanders and Corollas. Nobody is even looking at them because nobody cares about them anymore. The only traffic coming in and out of the dealership has been flatbed trucks dropping off broken down cars. I can count 3 dead Camrys sitting on the backs of the dealerships flatbeds.

The tide is turning and Toyota is going to get sucked under by the tidal wave that is The American Revolution. Nobody is safe. Count on it.

…..”Now Toyota is going to throw more money into this country?
….. This reeks of desperation on their part. They can’t
….. even survive selling the **** that they build now…”
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LMFAO!

The money goes back to Japan, where it is divided up for the shareholders and deposited into my banking account here in the U.S.

When was the last time GM built a new plant let alone 5 ???? they are loosing plants while the jap’s are building them across from your trailer…. what do you say to that?

Just saw another flatbed come in with a brand new Avalon on it. Toyota quality = yeah right.

They also have these tags on the windshields of all the cars that are marked $$$$ off. The whole front row of Tundras are $15,000 off + 0% financing. Seems like they are giving them away. Must be trying to dump the remaining inventory before they go under.

BTW, I agree and there is a lot of statistical evidence to support that there is little true quality difference and that US companies built them as well as Japanese, but to insinuate or state that Toyota or Honda are desperate and is going out of business is laughable. Sorry, but it is.

The way GM and Ford and doing things, they are screwing up other car companies that have had quaility before they bought them. STAY AWAY GM/FORD

15k off? What part of San Diego? What is the name of the dealership (since you can see it)?

If you ever have to go to the hell hole that is Michigan don’t drink the water or you might end up with the same brain damage as the retard posting above.

They assemble them here, don’t confuse that with building them. 75% or more of parts used on Japanese vehicle assembled here are from parts manufactured in Japan/Korea/China or other 3rd world contries. This is part of the monetary loophole that adds to the trade deficit with the US.

I see is re-investing nearly 1 billion dollars in 8 Michigan plants for engine, transmission, stamping and assembly to take them to the next level of flexible manufacturing.

It’s not a good thing in the long term. Toyota is huge.

What blows my mind is how much people harp on their superfantasticfradulisticexpialadojous quality…. and yet their cars are often the most boring garbage ever produced. AND WE PAY THROUGH THE NOSE FOR IT.

Toyota does have good quality, fit and finish and ergonomics….. oh yes. All good.

It’s just that the cars aren’t inspiring, don’t look nice, with no actual sports trim levels, no manual transmissions on the “sport” versions, no rear wheel drive, no lightweight cars that aren’t gas misers….

So it’s these kinds of cars that these new factories will produce. That and a few million trucks.

I find it amazing people don’t demand more interesting cars buy not buying what amounts to high quality garbage.

And no, I don’t recommend buying GM over a Toyota. They’ve got their own problems and front wheel drive religion to axe in coming years.

gm number one you are an idiot. if american cars really were the **** then they would sell all over the world. people vote with their wallets in the automotive world and they dont vote for gm and ford. In the rest of the world you cant buy pontiacs, buicks and other gm brands have severly limited offerings. Chevy sells cars in europe now but they are just rebaged daewoos so much for an american car ehy. and cadilac can barely sell a car in europe. as for ford usa well they can sell a couple of mustangs in europe and thats about it. and its not only europe go to japan and see how many brandnew american cars u can find i garantie its 0. the only export market were american cars do well is china and thats cause they have about as much taste as tofu. its sad mr gm that u are too ignorant and aparently full of yourself to admit you have said some dumb things.

I can’t tell, I am staying somewhere in Huntington. Rather not state any further details.

They just towed in a 4Runner, it looks new. Oh well, got a meeting to go to.

what happens if/when Toyota employes more US workers the Ford or GM?

some one else posted this but check it out
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pdf/2006082.pdf

Look at where Toyota and Honda are and look at where the First GM nameplate is. Wow look at where that upstart from Korea is!

I just saw about 9000 GM vehicles on flatbeds, while simultaneously being on fire. Goddamn GM quality is dropping.

I think there were a few union workers trapped in the trunks, too. What are they doing over there.

Sorry Jazz. That does not compute with the GM World View. It’s obviously skewed and biased. In fact, I just saw a cargo ship full of foreign cars catch on fire because of the low quality cars in there.

bousbous85, they are closing plants because not enough people are buying them. And toyota is only making plants in the US so that people will think they are more american.

“Toyota will never be an American company until the money comes to America.”

Translation: Until the money goes to American execs and shareholders, the very same that are fueling the cycle of ****ty American cars because all they give a **** about is making a quick buck in the short run. American workers can build just as good cars (Toyota’s proven that), but it’s the leadership that sucks ass. You think their business models are the same? Try reading the Toyota Way. It’s not nearly the same. As one small example, grunt workers at a Toyota factory have far more say than a comparable “domestic” factory.

BOOO!!!

Toyota cars assembled in America have problems! Assebmle then in Japan where it is done right. If you look at the quality records, The vehicles assembled in Japan have far fewer problems.

That’s not entirely true bun_a_gm. The Toyota plant in Cambridge Ontario produces the Corolla, Matrix and RX350 and 400h, and it has consistently ranked as high or higher than it’s counterparts in Japan. Same for Honda’s plant in Alliston Ontario. And you’ll notice in the JD Power survey that even the GM plants that rank high are located in Canada.

moogleii- Omigod – I just saw a whole parking lot full of G6’s catch fire and then the hoods blew off and hit a a lot full of corvettes and all of the vette hoods blew off and crushed a lot full of Saturn Sky’s.
I think it all started becausde a Buick Lucerne’s transmission failed and it ran into the G6 lot.

I still want GMnumberone4ever to tell me the name of that San Diego Toyota dealership where I can score a Tundra for $15k off MSRP. I love my 2002 Ford truck, but if I can sell it, buy a new Tundra, and bank about $3k in the process, I’m there.

gmnumberone, you should be a stand up comedian. All these things you say are just too funny.

Nobody’s going to believe that you see so many imports broken down all over the place and all their owners running to you just to tell you that they wish they owned a gm vehicle. It just doesn’t happen. Not in the real world, buddy.

All in favor of GMnumberone4ever becoming the “LAST COMIS STADING SAY” I

” LAST COMIC STANDING”

they MAY build 5 plants. They may get AIDS and die of a cold too. If it isn’t concrete it isn’t newsworthy and isn’t ****.

As for their quality.. how is the sludge suit going? How many cars did they recall this year? 1.5 million or something lmao..

Facts are they are set to import a record number of cars in the US this year.

homeboy234, go due your homework before you comment again…. Dip

lol nice word usage homeboy…jap cars still suck worse that americans NOW…back in the day they were better but not anymore…do some research buddy

Thanks guys.
You’ve turned this site into a gigantic wasteland.
If only your posts were one thousandth as funny as you think they are, it might at least be entertaining.

Wow, look, no one is talking about the main topic any longer. Yay for fragile egos and believing in brand brainwas– er, advertising.

The original subject, hyp, was the continuing ascent of Toyota in the enemies homeland and the utter lack of any clue what to do about it by the domestics.

Oh damn, Lock your windows… close your doors. Toyota packed their bags and are planning to move in for total domination…

However, with everything I see happening at the american brands they shouldn’t pack their bags just yet.

Well for whatever its worth, Toyota gaining even more US manufacturing won’t do anything to change their lackluster range of cars. While a Toyota is infinitely better on quality then General Motors, they are the only domestic manufacturer trying to make waves with a few bold new sporty products such as the Camaro, Solstice and Sky, Zeta-sedans, Caddy CTS and the mainstay evolving Corvette Z06.

The state of the car market and its relation to market share has always perplexed me. To me, GM is doing much better because their lineup of cars are becoming less boring than they used to be.

Alternatively, Toyota makes a lot of very boring cars that don’t handle very well because they have very soft suspensions and FWD. Amazingly, people seem to like this more and while I prefer superior build quality myself I still can’t justify buying a more well built vehicle that does less for the driver than a comparatively exciting product that has some reliability and quality issues.

I just don’t understand why General Motors got the message that people want more exciting products and loses money and yet Toyota flatly ignores those requests and keeps reaping profits and builds more factories!

Amazing.

GMnumber1, did u pick up the guys whos car was on fire with ya G6?

What’s the deal with the new Toyota styling? The cars look like manatees and the trucks look like bulldogs. The Camry has very odd details – body contours, tail lights that stick out (and that manatee / sea cow look.) And the Yaris sedan is a real sleep inducer…

btw: What about the Honda CR-V front end? Just our luck, they run forever so we get to look at ‘em drive by…at least it looks good from other angles.

jamhole is a tool, GMnumberoneima**** is a bigger tool, it’s tool paradise here on LLN, and I’m sure everyone is enjoying it

Hey Lambo, nobody gives a crap about DCX. The only thing that matters in the hearts and minds of enthusiasts is GM’s reign over the industry. If you don’t like it, then maybe you should just leave.

I hope you traitors are happy. Have fun with your boring ass Toyota sedans for the next 200,000 miles or so while we enjoy our new freshly leased SUV’s.

Well said D.A.

Here’s hoping that Toyota is just another victim of the onslaught that is “The American Revolution” and those traitors get what’s coming to them. They should come on over to Michigan sometime. Let us decorate their new Toyotas for them.